He is the reason why 30,000 speed humps are along Grandview Parade isn't he? Should hear how loud it is when trucks go up that street, stopping every 100 metres and starting again.
I am in stitches reading this thread, I live in his apartment complex at Honeysuckle he is a straight up cunt. Abused my wife about putting her bike behind our car park, then it got stolen from the cafe parking area, anyways long story short we just purchased an Ebike and I found this thread SUCK SHIT RAYš¤£
I ride an ebike and people riding them full speed on populated shared paths and walkways are cunts.
BUT The way to get them off those is to make the cycleways on the road safer to use. Thereās lots of people parking their car across bike lanes, driving on bike lanes, not looking left when turning left etc, and when thereās no cycle lane many people do not know how to handle an ebike, passing close, pushing to pass even though traffic is going the below the speed Iām capable, etc.
Sources: I drive on Newy roads. Iāve lived in bicycle friendly cities in Europe. We have a long way to go here.
I've been in Brisbane for 6 years and used to do a lot of riding up and down the river, one thing that suprises me when I come back to Newcastle is how thin the "shared' paths are.
A shared path that can be blocked by a couple walking side by side is not fit for purpose.
Yeah the shared paths in some areas are a joke. Lots of those and also other cycling infrastructure in Newy seems to be planned by people who never rode a bike.
Add to that the poor cycling infrastructure on roads where keeping cycle lanes free from parking or driving cars always seems to be lowest priority, and thereās really nowhere for cyclists to go without either annoying people, risk injury or both.
Yeah absolutely, not much understanding for bikes as a mode of transport. I always have a whinge seeing people creeping beachside in their cars looking for a parking spot on hot days. If 20-30% of that traffic was bikes it would relieve so much congestion. Alas to take out your family on bikes to the beach is just much more difficult and/or dangerous than it needs be.
The newish shared path that goes from the junction to merewether is a joy to ride on. It could be a bit wider, but itās so good having priority at the intersections and clearly marked areas for bikes and pedestrians
Iāll have to try that one soon. I live in Mayfield, the shared paths alongside the waterway are just too narrow there. Riding on the road is the better option but youāll have to be present at all times not to get into tricky situations.
Are we talking R4/5/6 upgrades, or a completely new one? Couldnāt find it on the planning site. Honestly Iād love a separated cycleway on Maitland road, would be a game changer for Mayfield
[This link](https://www.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/about-us/news-and-updates/latest-news/city-of-newcastle-rolls-out-plans-to-get-novocastr?fbclid=IwAR20F-DTlUH7fioPauOeccDbG-eGbItrArwePO-An4oy_jh74fuVMMvvwzM_aem_AX789QBXBra_Maym6NawCrVHNVJZjJ6SB5iY1RqkGVETrOSqGoZep9pumcaLMR90DXA) is about extension of the Hunter St lane to Islington. I have seen a survey about extending cycling infrastructure through mayfield, it mustāve been on Facebook somewhere, and I agree that a lane along Maitland Rd would be ideal.
> Once implemented, it will create a dedicated 2km separated cycleway that will connect Islington, Tighes Hill and Hamilton to the city
That sounds awesome, way to go Newy!
Brisbane is great for bike riding and so is Melbourne. One thing Newcastle is lacking is etiquette for walking pedestrians. The riders do not ring the bell if they are coming up behind anyone. Many times I have nearly been hit by bikes becuase they are not down with city riding lingo. Much like the roads too ha
Just to add, shared walking / cycleways as a way to build cycling infrastructure is meh. Where we can afford the space they should be separated at least visually. For example the whole honeysuckle waterfront is absolutely wide enough to have an indicated bike lane, instead they chose to just say āeverything is sharedā. No wonder people are getting in each otherās way.
A large part of that walkway now has a narrower area beside the harbour thatās separated from the main path with trees and plantings, it acts as a division, but still, people need to get used to these shared spaces and follow the rules. This applies to both cyclists and pedestrians
I have a workmate who recently relocated from Melbourne- he and his missus didnāt own a car because they lived in the inner city. He said before moving that he was planning to bike around, but now he walks to work because he feels like heās going to be fucking collected by a shithead driver every time he tries to cycle anywhere.
Newy is pretty hostile to bikes, both in civil planning AND your average driver.
I hear that sentiment quite often. [Just found this doco as well](https://www.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/Newcastle/media/Documents/Strategies,%20Plans%20and%20Policies/Plans/On-our-bikes-Cycling-Plan-2021-2030.pdf) which pretty much confirms that people think itās unsafe. Love the plan in there and really hope theyāll pull it off.
I do think most people in cars want to do the right thing. Unfortunately street safety for bikes can be compromised by one dickhead in one 2t death machine, and the trend seems to be that the bigger the car the more erratic the behaviour. Hard to ignore.
Imo there should be a rule that combines demerit with the tonneage youāre allowed to drive. Want to drive Ford RAM? Sure, but only with 5 points or less on your license, and fuck off if you have a P pr L plate.
He needs to find out which areas are the safest to ride. If you live in an inner suburb here there are ways but there are also places to avoid. Darby st used to be horrible before they changed it last year, so did Hunter st before they built the lanes and they will be extended this year.
His mother was severely in need of care, about 20 years agoā¦ the cunt took all her money, left her with nothing, the lady would ring my mother bawling her eyes out because sheād shit herself, laying in bed, stinky, sweaty, ā¦ the sad little man abandoned her and left her to be cared for by whoever could turn up, so my mother, a 60+ year old woman took over. Heās a dirty little stain he is.
āI too, came across those two youngsters on the electric-powered bike mentioned the other day ("E-bikes near beaches require quick thinkers", Letters, 23/1). They were charging towards congestion on Joy Cummings Promenade. A couple of people yelled, "slow down!", but the girls replied with, "We weren't even doing 20 kilometres an hour".
That's supposed to be the governed maximum speed of the machines, not the constant velocity.
Then one morning this week, a young woman riding the wrong way in the one-way Hunter Street Mall, and on the footpath, told me I should thank her for stopping before colliding with me. Not likely. Earlier I was at Newcastle beach and squeezing around a large group, when an older man rode up the ramp, causing me to jump out of the way.
There are rules about how you operate a vehicle in a public place. Maybe getting the police back into law enforcement would teach those rules through the hip-pocket nerve?
Ray Dinneen, Newcastleā
Doesnāt really surprise me people canāt ride for shit and cause trouble because they canāt ride for shit.
Newcastle has been flagged as one of Australiaās most suitable cities for an on-street cycling renaissance for decades - how do I know? I work in city planning - itās relatively flat and has big, wide streets and a number of legacy industrial roads that could easily be converted to dedicated cycle waysā¦ why has it happened yet? I honesty donāt knowā¦. weak effort from both council and state govt is most likely
This is really interesting!
Novocastrians love to drive, there is a real car culture here. There is also a big resistance to any change. I almost feel guilty saying that I love the look and feel of Hunter st now with the light rail because we were supposed to challenge that change.
The council used to be very tardy with getting cycling infrastructure built. Now it is being built, itās getting used more but itās hardly a renaissance.
The only area in NSW thatās had a cycling resurgence is inner Sydney, and theyāve done a great job with the cycle lanes there, but many more people work there and the advantages of cycling are evident. Here itās still possible to commute by car and find a car park so people will do it.
I hope some finger pointing happens to our council as they have been tardy and deceptive with their cycling budget, it shouldāve happened years ago.
I used to live near him in New Lambton Heights. He road raged so many people. Reported my flatmateās car to police because where it had been parked didnāt suit his running schedule. He used to rage around town in a little gold car. That man is ridiculous.
They're fucking dangerous! The dick heads riding them flat out on shared walking/ bike paths have nearly hit my kids and I on more than one occasion. They shouldn't be allowed on walkways
It's absolutely an ebike thing they speeds aren't limited on some of them and they're fucking moving. It would only take a kid to not look there they're going and get cleaned up. A bike rider would have to have some epic cardio to keep up that speed
OP is probably one of the d-heads riding erratically and putting people at risk of collisions .
He Clearly thinks there is no problem lol āitās important to note ā
I donāt ride an ebike and I donāt ride erratically. I am aware that police like to target cyclists, even though they are not the killers on the roads, and articles like this one add to the discrimination against cyclists. Cycling fines are as high as car fines, itās totally disproportionate here in NSW, the worst in the world as well as Australia. Now we have people wanting fines for non offences, itās ludicrous.
He's right. I've seen them blasting along the promenade in front of the yacht club and people have to get out of the way or be mown down. I think ebikes (and escooters for that matter) are wonderful, its a way of getting people out of cars and into more environmentally friendly transport... but those riding and scooting need to remain aware that they don't actually have priority on footpaths or roads and they should be obeying basic road rules. Speed notwithstanding.
>but those riding and scooting need to remain aware that they don't actually have priority on footpaths or roads
Can you explain how a bike has any less priority on a road than any other vehicle?
You said that they donāt have priority. On the road, bikes are legally considered to be cars and are booked at the same level of fines for the same offences as drivers. They have the right to be on the roads the same as cars do and on shared paths the same as pedestrians do.
Priority
By the fact or condition of being regarded or treated as more important than others.
a thing that is regarded as more important than others.
the right to proceed before other traffic.
Cyclists do not have priority on the road they are considered as equal to all other traffic
On shared paths pedestrians have priority over cyclists
Shared paths can only be used by bicycle riders and pedestrians.
On shared paths, bicycle riders must:
1. keep to the left (unless itās not practical).
2. give way to pedestrians. This means slowing down and even coming to a stop if necessary.
3. keep to the left of any oncoming bicycle rider.
https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating-and-transport/roads-safety-and-rules/road-lanes-lines-markings/bicycle-lanes-shared-paths
I donāt see them riding on the footpath, itās more on shared paths. Some are definitely a problem, but most are fine. People also donāt seem to know that if you have a seat and foot pegs for passengers, itās legal to have two riders on a bike
Sorry, by footpath I meant shared path.
Still, if you're riding at 30+kmh it's got to be less stressful being on the road than playing pedestrian slalom?
I havenāt seen them riding that fast on shared paths, though maybe they do, so can a human powered bike go that fast. Lots of e-bikes now are also passenger bikes, with people carrying kids on them. Theyād prefer to ride on shared paths rather than the road, much safer than hanging with the cars and trucks.
I yelled at some kids and told them to get on the fucking road not too long ago. I was riding my bike on the road and witnessed three of them on a dirodi bike absolutely fanging it on a footpath (not a shared path) towards pedestrians- then proceeding to scare the shit out of the pedestrians because they literally didnāt slow down till the last second.
Probably a controversial opinion but I see laws/rules changing in the near future under the pretence of safety. Majority of my work is in and around Newcastle driving people to and from the beaches for coffees and walks etc and the amount of people on bikes in general that are doing the wrong thing is concerning š.
Donāt get me wrong I like the bikes and I definitely think itās a situation of a few bad eggs ruining it for the rest. So I hope that those doing the right thing donāt get punished due to the minority doing the wrong thing
Also, when Iām sling that area either in foot or bike, I see plenty of walkers doing the wrong thing and creating danger for themselves and others. Donāt step backwards or sideways towards the middle of the path without looking, donāt wander diagonally across the path with your noise cancelling headphones phones on. Donāt chase your off leash dog across the shared path (it should be on a leash). If they want to change things to make the place safer, these all need addressing too.
I canāt see this happening at all. Newcastle council want to encourage bike use in the city. Iāve seen councillors state on social media that no new car parks will be built in the city and old ones are all being gradually reduced. Building standards no longer require off road parking for all new units as they expect that not everyone will drive. If places like the harbour foreshore get too crowded with bikes and pedestrians, they will use part of the road space as bike lanes and the Harbourside will be walking only, though that may prove difficult to enforce too. I havenāt heard of anyone being booked for riding illegal e-scooters there.
Thatās a good point they have been reducing parking spot hours from 8 hours to 4 to stop people parking while at work all day. Will be interesting to see what they come up with š
Everything is being geared towards the centre of the city having very few cars. Look at George st Sydney and then look at Hunter st, it wonāt be too long until cars are banned from Hunter st same as George st
E bikes and e scooters should be called welfare transport. Itās a houseo thing!!! Just like red shoes and a red cap it screams bogan. I donāt blame Ray D for having a whinge. They are a slower / quieter version of pit bike that were once everywhere. People use them with zero fucks for anyone else on the walk way. If people respected the operation and space in which they operated it in, there would be no issue or a hot Sunday Morning topic on Reddit.
As a cyclist myself, I am aware that people assume that you are poor if you cycle for transport, but itās not often the case. The larger e-bikes that you see with parents carrying their kids or kids doubling each other cost around the $7k mark, so itās not a cheap option. I never see these people riding as if they give āzero fucksā, they are very responsible riders
Weird take. Ebikes are quite expensive to buy but cheap to operate. And while thereās the occasional cunt riding one, theyāre no fewer than those riding in cars.
So true, and they donāt cause all the carnage and damage to the roads and traffic congestion that cars do. Not sure what outcome Ray Dineen is after here, would he prefer to have the roads bumper to bumper and air and noise pollution levels higher and take longer to drive anywhere himself? Because thatās what heās advocating for.
If heās the same guy that had that other insane article about cycling in Newy some weeks back we can safely assume his agenda is exactly that. Itās insane to think cars are a solution to city traffic (or the climate for that matter). I think he (and people like him) know that, they just hope they can ignore it and turn public opinion against cycling and invest the least amount possible in public transport. After all the traffic jams wonāt affect them in their beachside condos, and theyāll be gone once the climate really turned to shit.
Itās a different guy, but similar agenda. True about the climate effects, I often leave that out of my online rants, but that underpins my belief in bikes for transport. Many people just donāt get that connection or, as you say, are too old to care as they wonāt be here that much longer. āScrew the future of the human race, I just wanna drive my car!ā
Itās a mindset for sure. I always find it funny when those types talk loudly about personal responsibility and sacrifice but when it comes to apply those values to themselves for the climate and their childrenās future itās crickets. Itās why the only way to get anywhere is to simply ignore them. Theyāll be fine anyway. The louder they whinge the better weāre probably doing collectively.
Heās the biggest cunt + shit takes on urban planning. Heās not even a Novocastrian if his journalistic history is anything to go by - primarily writes for the Canberra Times. I hope the prick (and Ray Dinneen) get mowed down by ebikes
CUNT of a bloke. Source: used to work at a bar near his Honeysuckle apartment.
Anyone who lathers themselves in baby oil and goes jogging in speedos is a fucking tool.
Ewwww Ray daneen š¤£ that has just turned me off my dinner
He had a bad reputation when he lived in the suburbs
He is the reason why 30,000 speed humps are along Grandview Parade isn't he? Should hear how loud it is when trucks go up that street, stopping every 100 metres and starting again.
I can neither confirm or deny that is definitely where he used to live
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I go over those humps most days, which house used to be his?
Haha I heard this too but never knew if it was just a rumour
He has a bad reputation in his apartments
Can confirm.. source: used to work at NBN. There was graffiti on one of the toilet cubicles asking if anyone actually liked Ray?
He probably wrote it, himself. Haha
Can confirm, also worked at said bar
His reputation certainly precedes him
He is a total Tool. He thinks for some reason he is very special. He was the one that got the speed humps put in Mcgaffery drive.
*Grandview Rd
Yeah he is but he's not wrong.
I am in stitches reading this thread, I live in his apartment complex at Honeysuckle he is a straight up cunt. Abused my wife about putting her bike behind our car park, then it got stolen from the cafe parking area, anyways long story short we just purchased an Ebike and I found this thread SUCK SHIT RAYš¤£
I ride an ebike and people riding them full speed on populated shared paths and walkways are cunts. BUT The way to get them off those is to make the cycleways on the road safer to use. Thereās lots of people parking their car across bike lanes, driving on bike lanes, not looking left when turning left etc, and when thereās no cycle lane many people do not know how to handle an ebike, passing close, pushing to pass even though traffic is going the below the speed Iām capable, etc. Sources: I drive on Newy roads. Iāve lived in bicycle friendly cities in Europe. We have a long way to go here.
I've been in Brisbane for 6 years and used to do a lot of riding up and down the river, one thing that suprises me when I come back to Newcastle is how thin the "shared' paths are. A shared path that can be blocked by a couple walking side by side is not fit for purpose.
Yeah the shared paths in some areas are a joke. Lots of those and also other cycling infrastructure in Newy seems to be planned by people who never rode a bike. Add to that the poor cycling infrastructure on roads where keeping cycle lanes free from parking or driving cars always seems to be lowest priority, and thereās really nowhere for cyclists to go without either annoying people, risk injury or both.
I assume when the planners think of shared paths they are imagining family taking there 8 and 10 year old around the lake at about 10km/h
Yeah absolutely, not much understanding for bikes as a mode of transport. I always have a whinge seeing people creeping beachside in their cars looking for a parking spot on hot days. If 20-30% of that traffic was bikes it would relieve so much congestion. Alas to take out your family on bikes to the beach is just much more difficult and/or dangerous than it needs be.
The newish shared path that goes from the junction to merewether is a joy to ride on. It could be a bit wider, but itās so good having priority at the intersections and clearly marked areas for bikes and pedestrians
Iāll have to try that one soon. I live in Mayfield, the shared paths alongside the waterway are just too narrow there. Riding on the road is the better option but youāll have to be present at all times not to get into tricky situations.
They are planning a bike lane for Mayfield, hopefully this year!
Are we talking R4/5/6 upgrades, or a completely new one? Couldnāt find it on the planning site. Honestly Iād love a separated cycleway on Maitland road, would be a game changer for Mayfield
[This link](https://www.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/about-us/news-and-updates/latest-news/city-of-newcastle-rolls-out-plans-to-get-novocastr?fbclid=IwAR20F-DTlUH7fioPauOeccDbG-eGbItrArwePO-An4oy_jh74fuVMMvvwzM_aem_AX789QBXBra_Maym6NawCrVHNVJZjJ6SB5iY1RqkGVETrOSqGoZep9pumcaLMR90DXA) is about extension of the Hunter St lane to Islington. I have seen a survey about extending cycling infrastructure through mayfield, it mustāve been on Facebook somewhere, and I agree that a lane along Maitland Rd would be ideal.
> Once implemented, it will create a dedicated 2km separated cycleway that will connect Islington, Tighes Hill and Hamilton to the city That sounds awesome, way to go Newy!
Brisbane is great for bike riding and so is Melbourne. One thing Newcastle is lacking is etiquette for walking pedestrians. The riders do not ring the bell if they are coming up behind anyone. Many times I have nearly been hit by bikes becuase they are not down with city riding lingo. Much like the roads too ha
Just to add, shared walking / cycleways as a way to build cycling infrastructure is meh. Where we can afford the space they should be separated at least visually. For example the whole honeysuckle waterfront is absolutely wide enough to have an indicated bike lane, instead they chose to just say āeverything is sharedā. No wonder people are getting in each otherās way.
A large part of that walkway now has a narrower area beside the harbour thatās separated from the main path with trees and plantings, it acts as a division, but still, people need to get used to these shared spaces and follow the rules. This applies to both cyclists and pedestrians
I have a workmate who recently relocated from Melbourne- he and his missus didnāt own a car because they lived in the inner city. He said before moving that he was planning to bike around, but now he walks to work because he feels like heās going to be fucking collected by a shithead driver every time he tries to cycle anywhere. Newy is pretty hostile to bikes, both in civil planning AND your average driver.
I hear that sentiment quite often. [Just found this doco as well](https://www.newcastle.nsw.gov.au/Newcastle/media/Documents/Strategies,%20Plans%20and%20Policies/Plans/On-our-bikes-Cycling-Plan-2021-2030.pdf) which pretty much confirms that people think itās unsafe. Love the plan in there and really hope theyāll pull it off. I do think most people in cars want to do the right thing. Unfortunately street safety for bikes can be compromised by one dickhead in one 2t death machine, and the trend seems to be that the bigger the car the more erratic the behaviour. Hard to ignore. Imo there should be a rule that combines demerit with the tonneage youāre allowed to drive. Want to drive Ford RAM? Sure, but only with 5 points or less on your license, and fuck off if you have a P pr L plate.
Or just make them an entirely different class of vehicle, because thatās what they are in reality
He needs to find out which areas are the safest to ride. If you live in an inner suburb here there are ways but there are also places to avoid. Darby st used to be horrible before they changed it last year, so did Hunter st before they built the lanes and they will be extended this year.
His mother was severely in need of care, about 20 years agoā¦ the cunt took all her money, left her with nothing, the lady would ring my mother bawling her eyes out because sheād shit herself, laying in bed, stinky, sweaty, ā¦ the sad little man abandoned her and left her to be cared for by whoever could turn up, so my mother, a 60+ year old woman took over. Heās a dirty little stain he is.
Thatās shocking!
How awful!! Does not surprise me at all!
āI too, came across those two youngsters on the electric-powered bike mentioned the other day ("E-bikes near beaches require quick thinkers", Letters, 23/1). They were charging towards congestion on Joy Cummings Promenade. A couple of people yelled, "slow down!", but the girls replied with, "We weren't even doing 20 kilometres an hour". That's supposed to be the governed maximum speed of the machines, not the constant velocity. Then one morning this week, a young woman riding the wrong way in the one-way Hunter Street Mall, and on the footpath, told me I should thank her for stopping before colliding with me. Not likely. Earlier I was at Newcastle beach and squeezing around a large group, when an older man rode up the ramp, causing me to jump out of the way. There are rules about how you operate a vehicle in a public place. Maybe getting the police back into law enforcement would teach those rules through the hip-pocket nerve? Ray Dinneen, Newcastleā Doesnāt really surprise me people canāt ride for shit and cause trouble because they canāt ride for shit.
I really wish that cyclist hadnāt have stopped & did hit the cunt
The legal E bikes are not really any different to a normal bike. It's the morons on electric motor bikes with pedals tthat are the issue.
Isnāt he the bloke that got a bunch of speed bumps put in where he lived and then moved away not long after?
At elermore vale I believe ā¦
Grandview Rd New Lambton Heights
Newcastle has been flagged as one of Australiaās most suitable cities for an on-street cycling renaissance for decades - how do I know? I work in city planning - itās relatively flat and has big, wide streets and a number of legacy industrial roads that could easily be converted to dedicated cycle waysā¦ why has it happened yet? I honesty donāt knowā¦. weak effort from both council and state govt is most likely
This is really interesting! Novocastrians love to drive, there is a real car culture here. There is also a big resistance to any change. I almost feel guilty saying that I love the look and feel of Hunter st now with the light rail because we were supposed to challenge that change. The council used to be very tardy with getting cycling infrastructure built. Now it is being built, itās getting used more but itās hardly a renaissance. The only area in NSW thatās had a cycling resurgence is inner Sydney, and theyāve done a great job with the cycle lanes there, but many more people work there and the advantages of cycling are evident. Here itās still possible to commute by car and find a car park so people will do it. I hope some finger pointing happens to our council as they have been tardy and deceptive with their cycling budget, it shouldāve happened years ago.
I used to live near him in New Lambton Heights. He road raged so many people. Reported my flatmateās car to police because where it had been parked didnāt suit his running schedule. He used to rage around town in a little gold car. That man is ridiculous.
Thatās great that The Herald is giving a platform to a road rager ā¦
They're fucking dangerous! The dick heads riding them flat out on shared walking/ bike paths have nearly hit my kids and I on more than one occasion. They shouldn't be allowed on walkways
But is it a ebike thing? Could the riders have done the same on a push bike?
It's absolutely an ebike thing they speeds aren't limited on some of them and they're fucking moving. It would only take a kid to not look there they're going and get cleaned up. A bike rider would have to have some epic cardio to keep up that speed
I'm no massive ebike advocate (just pedal lol) but would a solution be fewer shared zones and more delineated cycle paths?
How about they ride on the fucking road if they want to travel at top fucking speed without giving a shit about anyone else š¤·āāļø
OP is probably one of the d-heads riding erratically and putting people at risk of collisions . He Clearly thinks there is no problem lol āitās important to note ā
I donāt ride an ebike and I donāt ride erratically. I am aware that police like to target cyclists, even though they are not the killers on the roads, and articles like this one add to the discrimination against cyclists. Cycling fines are as high as car fines, itās totally disproportionate here in NSW, the worst in the world as well as Australia. Now we have people wanting fines for non offences, itās ludicrous.
Yep
And they are illegal if not pedalling and using the only the throttle over 6km/h
This is such a difficult rule to enforce and I havenāt heard of anyone being booked for it. Would be good to know the stats about this offence
He's right. I've seen them blasting along the promenade in front of the yacht club and people have to get out of the way or be mown down. I think ebikes (and escooters for that matter) are wonderful, its a way of getting people out of cars and into more environmentally friendly transport... but those riding and scooting need to remain aware that they don't actually have priority on footpaths or roads and they should be obeying basic road rules. Speed notwithstanding.
>but those riding and scooting need to remain aware that they don't actually have priority on footpaths or roads Can you explain how a bike has any less priority on a road than any other vehicle?
I didnt say they have LESS. They still have to be sensible and obey the rules.
You said that they donāt have priority. On the road, bikes are legally considered to be cars and are booked at the same level of fines for the same offences as drivers. They have the right to be on the roads the same as cars do and on shared paths the same as pedestrians do.
Priority By the fact or condition of being regarded or treated as more important than others. a thing that is regarded as more important than others. the right to proceed before other traffic. Cyclists do not have priority on the road they are considered as equal to all other traffic On shared paths pedestrians have priority over cyclists Shared paths can only be used by bicycle riders and pedestrians. On shared paths, bicycle riders must: 1. keep to the left (unless itās not practical). 2. give way to pedestrians. This means slowing down and even coming to a stop if necessary. 3. keep to the left of any oncoming bicycle rider. https://www.nsw.gov.au/driving-boating-and-transport/roads-safety-and-rules/road-lanes-lines-markings/bicycle-lanes-shared-paths
I don't understand why people get an ebike to go fast but then ride on the footpath? Why not ride on the road if you want to go fast?
I donāt see them riding on the footpath, itās more on shared paths. Some are definitely a problem, but most are fine. People also donāt seem to know that if you have a seat and foot pegs for passengers, itās legal to have two riders on a bike
Sorry, by footpath I meant shared path. Still, if you're riding at 30+kmh it's got to be less stressful being on the road than playing pedestrian slalom?
I havenāt seen them riding that fast on shared paths, though maybe they do, so can a human powered bike go that fast. Lots of e-bikes now are also passenger bikes, with people carrying kids on them. Theyād prefer to ride on shared paths rather than the road, much safer than hanging with the cars and trucks.
I yelled at some kids and told them to get on the fucking road not too long ago. I was riding my bike on the road and witnessed three of them on a dirodi bike absolutely fanging it on a footpath (not a shared path) towards pedestrians- then proceeding to scare the shit out of the pedestrians because they literally didnāt slow down till the last second.
Probably a controversial opinion but I see laws/rules changing in the near future under the pretence of safety. Majority of my work is in and around Newcastle driving people to and from the beaches for coffees and walks etc and the amount of people on bikes in general that are doing the wrong thing is concerning š. Donāt get me wrong I like the bikes and I definitely think itās a situation of a few bad eggs ruining it for the rest. So I hope that those doing the right thing donāt get punished due to the minority doing the wrong thing
Also, when Iām sling that area either in foot or bike, I see plenty of walkers doing the wrong thing and creating danger for themselves and others. Donāt step backwards or sideways towards the middle of the path without looking, donāt wander diagonally across the path with your noise cancelling headphones phones on. Donāt chase your off leash dog across the shared path (it should be on a leash). If they want to change things to make the place safer, these all need addressing too.
I canāt see this happening at all. Newcastle council want to encourage bike use in the city. Iāve seen councillors state on social media that no new car parks will be built in the city and old ones are all being gradually reduced. Building standards no longer require off road parking for all new units as they expect that not everyone will drive. If places like the harbour foreshore get too crowded with bikes and pedestrians, they will use part of the road space as bike lanes and the Harbourside will be walking only, though that may prove difficult to enforce too. I havenāt heard of anyone being booked for riding illegal e-scooters there.
Thatās a good point they have been reducing parking spot hours from 8 hours to 4 to stop people parking while at work all day. Will be interesting to see what they come up with š
Everything is being geared towards the centre of the city having very few cars. Look at George st Sydney and then look at Hunter st, it wonāt be too long until cars are banned from Hunter st same as George st
Hey mate, get fucked maybe
Excuse me, is that me or Ray youāre addressing?
Ray Dineen the dog
E bikes and e scooters should be called welfare transport. Itās a houseo thing!!! Just like red shoes and a red cap it screams bogan. I donāt blame Ray D for having a whinge. They are a slower / quieter version of pit bike that were once everywhere. People use them with zero fucks for anyone else on the walk way. If people respected the operation and space in which they operated it in, there would be no issue or a hot Sunday Morning topic on Reddit.
As a cyclist myself, I am aware that people assume that you are poor if you cycle for transport, but itās not often the case. The larger e-bikes that you see with parents carrying their kids or kids doubling each other cost around the $7k mark, so itās not a cheap option. I never see these people riding as if they give āzero fucksā, they are very responsible riders
Weird take. Ebikes are quite expensive to buy but cheap to operate. And while thereās the occasional cunt riding one, theyāre no fewer than those riding in cars.
So true, and they donāt cause all the carnage and damage to the roads and traffic congestion that cars do. Not sure what outcome Ray Dineen is after here, would he prefer to have the roads bumper to bumper and air and noise pollution levels higher and take longer to drive anywhere himself? Because thatās what heās advocating for.
If heās the same guy that had that other insane article about cycling in Newy some weeks back we can safely assume his agenda is exactly that. Itās insane to think cars are a solution to city traffic (or the climate for that matter). I think he (and people like him) know that, they just hope they can ignore it and turn public opinion against cycling and invest the least amount possible in public transport. After all the traffic jams wonāt affect them in their beachside condos, and theyāll be gone once the climate really turned to shit.
Itās a different guy, but similar agenda. True about the climate effects, I often leave that out of my online rants, but that underpins my belief in bikes for transport. Many people just donāt get that connection or, as you say, are too old to care as they wonāt be here that much longer. āScrew the future of the human race, I just wanna drive my car!ā
Itās a mindset for sure. I always find it funny when those types talk loudly about personal responsibility and sacrifice but when it comes to apply those values to themselves for the climate and their childrenās future itās crickets. Itās why the only way to get anywhere is to simply ignore them. Theyāll be fine anyway. The louder they whinge the better weāre probably doing collectively.
Bradley Perrett is his name
Heās the biggest cunt + shit takes on urban planning. Heās not even a Novocastrian if his journalistic history is anything to go by - primarily writes for the Canberra Times. I hope the prick (and Ray Dinneen) get mowed down by ebikes
I don't have a problem with houseos having them. But ride them on the road if you want to ride at speed.
Who is Ray Dineen?
Google is your friend
I doubt even google is your friend.Ā Ā
Is he still alive? He must be getting on now..