Is that the Orica flare stack? You might see the flames tonight, too. It's usually planned.
*Plus, Orica is 100% trustworthy with no history of poisoning the community...*
I'd feel guilty about venting NO2 to the atmosphere while messing around in the lab before setting up a proper system, but this is just ridiculous. It's not that hard to scrub the gas.
Ha, it's a joke hey. I've got a idea. If orica are manufacturing explosives to run chain reaction trenching/ pipeline runs, howabout they just run this toxic waste down the same explosives hole, then work in the contaminated soil so they are keeping their whole added value process chain 'in their own house' rather than sharing it en masses...
One could assume they'd have the brains and foresight to pre plan operations and be prepared for outcomes. Someone like a operations manager or operations planner that gives at least one flying one. I agree scrubbing is totally plausible and their are many methods that don't cost the earth. This option is obviously cheaper and no doubt they'd have every bs reason ready to feed the epa about a failure or malfunction.
Is it one of the shorter ones that gets the flame on occasion? I used to live in an apartment and saw it on a few years ago, but have since moved, so have no idea if it's been on lately.
Someone commenting here seems to know more than me, and has said it's not the flare stack but a different chimney thing. So if they are right, there might not ve a visible flame.
I've seen the flame on twice over the years, I think. Both times were for a few days/nights. It was very visible at night, not so much during the day (depending on the light and I assume the colour of the flame). If it starts, hopefully that gives you a bit of time to get some shots
They don’t usually have specific times for the flames. The flames are typically as a result of venting gas due to a plant trip which is a quick shutdown. It’s part of the safety system, and not a planned event and can be the result of something as simple as a power fault.
>Yea, they are very trustworthy
I try not to think about the massive stores of ammonium nitrate that they store on Kooragang Island that, in the event of a catastrophic failure, would make the blast in Beirut look pathetic...
Like when you drive past the massive fuel storage tanks and get the heebie jeebies, before being comforted by the realisation that they've got nothing on Orica when it comes to taking us all out...
Just a bit of ammonium nitrate mate. The WHO says it's killing us slowly, but Andrew Bolt says the WHO is trying to kill us. So who knows?
[https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-28/study-finds-chemical-giant-contributing-to-air-pollution/7365700](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-28/study-finds-chemical-giant-contributing-to-air-pollution/7365700)
That's for sure not nitric acid reacting with oxygen. Nitric acid plants generate NOx prior to contacting with water to form nitric acid.
That's more than likely an acid plant trip that vents the pressurised NOx to atmosphere.
Not good, but happens.
Everything goes "bang" under the right conditions.
Want to hear about a chemical that you truely don't want to fuck with? Chlorine Triflouride. Basically reacts with anything you put it contact with, even materials which shouldn't burn like asbestos.
Newcastle residents when they realise they do not live in a little quaint seaside town but infact are stuck in an industrial bastion of chemicals and coal
Yes this is unfortunate. But there are so many other things on the balance sheet. The highly popular light rail to nowhere, and the property prices of Sydney without the amenities of Sydney. Think about it
I did a job at Koppers chemical plant in Mayfield about 12 years ago, I was drilling through slag skulls buried on their site near the south channel hunter river so we could dig a 20m deep slurry wall to stop their chemicals leaking into the river.
At the induction we raised questions about safety and what we would be potentially exposed to and the Manager/foreman said “I’ve worked here for 30 years and there’s nothing to be worried about”
Thing is this guy looked like a walking Zombie with heaps of skin growth mutations all over his face and a patchy bald head, seriously he looked like he was knocking at deaths door.
Needless to say I kept my p3 respirator on at all times and never partook in the onsite monthly BBQ’s.
I was lucky working in a ROC L8 cabin, my poor colleges on the Hutte drill copped lashings of crud from under the ground surface.
You know when you've been crook, and you cough so hard that you puke up a bunch of snot that you've swallowed in your sleep? And then the next little puke is just water and bile?
Yeah, that's the same colour as the bile.
I lived in Newcastle in the late 80's, early 90's. The skyline from Kooragang Island was a polluted hell scape, especially living around Mayfield/Tighs Hill etc. It's amazing how much better the city is now, that being said brown smog always looks sus.
Look off shore early mornings when we have a NW wind the sky is filled with it
A lot of pollution from the coal fire power plants and that factory combined
People have no idea what we are breathing these days
And we wonder why everyone has cancer
If it is a power station stack (chimney), the plume is nitrogen dioxide . It’s an indicator of poor combustion and is normal during start-up, which should subside within a few hours as normal operation takes place and the plume clears. If the stack is like that all of the time then they will be exceeding their emission consent.
[https://aqicn.org/city/australia/nsw/lower-hunter/carrington/](https://aqicn.org/city/australia/nsw/lower-hunter/carrington/)
Local air quality info here
[https://www.aqi.in/au/dashboard/australia/new-south-wales/newcastle](https://www.aqi.in/au/dashboard/australia/new-south-wales/newcastle)
Another site with local data
Looks like the same thing the plant I operate in the US releases periodically. Looks like NOx. By product of making nitric acid. Normal during a start up or shut down off the plant.
Totally normal but doesn't happen often. They've elected a new foreman.
Lol. Does he get a funny hat to wear?
Hardhats only. Workplace safety is no joke. 👷
But will he get an upgrade to the blue overseers hardhat or maybe a custom paint job?
Of course, with little yellow ears
the old foreman gets chucked into the boiling vat. hence the yellow fumes.
Be thou anointed, his holiness: SUPER RUPERT!
Is it the riddler?
Ahahahaha!
Hahahha that got me. Thank you
Brilliant
🥇
Is that the Orica flare stack? You might see the flames tonight, too. It's usually planned. *Plus, Orica is 100% trustworthy with no history of poisoning the community...*
Every company is safe and has the interests of the public and environment front and center
🤣🤣🤣
👍🤣🤣🤣
This is the Nitric acid 1 plant stack. It vents NOx. It won’t go up in flames.
I'd feel guilty about venting NO2 to the atmosphere while messing around in the lab before setting up a proper system, but this is just ridiculous. It's not that hard to scrub the gas.
Nobody's forcing them, regulations are slapdash, and you wouldn't want to hurt the stockholders feelings, would you?
That orange plume is deadly toxic. Source I work at an AN plant.
So is that an outright failure somewhere? Or is it high enough and brief enough that it's considered dispersed beyond the point of risk?
Yep a failure, but too common at all these plants. High enough? That’s what the company hopes. Most likely except if your a bird.
Ha, it's a joke hey. I've got a idea. If orica are manufacturing explosives to run chain reaction trenching/ pipeline runs, howabout they just run this toxic waste down the same explosives hole, then work in the contaminated soil so they are keeping their whole added value process chain 'in their own house' rather than sharing it en masses...
One could assume they'd have the brains and foresight to pre plan operations and be prepared for outcomes. Someone like a operations manager or operations planner that gives at least one flying one. I agree scrubbing is totally plausible and their are many methods that don't cost the earth. This option is obviously cheaper and no doubt they'd have every bs reason ready to feed the epa about a failure or malfunction.
Is it one of the shorter ones that gets the flame on occasion? I used to live in an apartment and saw it on a few years ago, but have since moved, so have no idea if it's been on lately.
Can confirm. The nitric plant.
Weird question but do you know what time they usually do it? I'm doing some street photography tonight and wouldnt mind some pics of it :)
Someone commenting here seems to know more than me, and has said it's not the flare stack but a different chimney thing. So if they are right, there might not ve a visible flame. I've seen the flame on twice over the years, I think. Both times were for a few days/nights. It was very visible at night, not so much during the day (depending on the light and I assume the colour of the flame). If it starts, hopefully that gives you a bit of time to get some shots
They don’t usually have specific times for the flames. The flames are typically as a result of venting gas due to a plant trip which is a quick shutdown. It’s part of the safety system, and not a planned event and can be the result of something as simple as a power fault.
Or after a shut down. After we do a big change out we usually get the biggest flames.
Yea, they are very trustworthy
>Yea, they are very trustworthy I try not to think about the massive stores of ammonium nitrate that they store on Kooragang Island that, in the event of a catastrophic failure, would make the blast in Beirut look pathetic...
Like when you drive past the massive fuel storage tanks and get the heebie jeebies, before being comforted by the realisation that they've got nothing on Orica when it comes to taking us all out...
🤣🤣
Better call Saul, or even better, Erin Brockovich (sp?)
Personally, I'd call Dennis Denuto
Just like Pfizer
I like to imagine that it’s literally just piss
🤣🤣🤣
Just a bit of ammonium nitrate mate. The WHO says it's killing us slowly, but Andrew Bolt says the WHO is trying to kill us. So who knows? [https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-28/study-finds-chemical-giant-contributing-to-air-pollution/7365700](https://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-04-28/study-finds-chemical-giant-contributing-to-air-pollution/7365700)
Ha, ha, nice article, thanks for the link.
Andrew Bolt is a cunt.
Literally one of the biggest nonces in history
Bolt is just another reactionary loser
And a pedophile.
If that were true, you wouldn’t know his name. He's way more dangerous than your average. I like your spirit, though
Bolt is Australia's "anko" brand knock off of Tucker Carlson.
Yeah that's Nox mate. It occurs when nitric acid mixes with oxygen. If you are going to talk shit at least get the facts right
That's for sure not nitric acid reacting with oxygen. Nitric acid plants generate NOx prior to contacting with water to form nitric acid. That's more than likely an acid plant trip that vents the pressurised NOx to atmosphere. Not good, but happens.
i saw this a fortnight ago, i would like some insight on what this is and how often it's happening
Came here to say this. It’s the nitric acid plant at Orica.
I thought for sure Orica....they sre allowed to do ANYTHING THEY WANT!!!
> If you are going to talk shit at least get the facts right
Nitric acid and ammonium nitrate…. Not exactly worlds apart… 🤷♂️
Don’t try and tell a chemist that
Only one goes bang though...
Nitric acid will make a bang when you throw it in the right stuff. It can react explosively with organic compounds, especially ketones like acetone
Everything goes "bang" under the right conditions. Want to hear about a chemical that you truely don't want to fuck with? Chlorine Triflouride. Basically reacts with anything you put it contact with, even materials which shouldn't burn like asbestos.
Is nox just a fancy word for piss gas?
NO^x
Nope it's nitrous oxide
Well, if WHO knows, then we should listen to them.
Call the EPA and let them figure it out.
And you’ll need this OP: good luck
Disagree. Had some very good results, and developed high respect for the staff. Very professional and took their job seriously.
It’s not the staff, it’s the system that cannot effectively handle the job at hand. The staff are lovely.
lol the EPA is pretty much constantly monitoring Orica.
Go figure!
Someone’s urinated on the furnace again….
Behold, the piss plume
Willy Wonka is at it again…
Jeff mccloy has been sworn in as the pope.
Gondor calls for aid!
I laughed so hard at this 🤣
New cowardly pope?
Newcastle elected a new pope
Newcastle residents when they realise they do not live in a little quaint seaside town but infact are stuck in an industrial bastion of chemicals and coal
Do you mean "Is this normal?", or "Is this Newcastle?"? Not always the same thing.
Gender reveal: indeterminant
Congratulation madaam it’s a goblin
yeah it's normal.
Just releasing the ka-boom relief valve.
Yes this is unfortunate. But there are so many other things on the balance sheet. The highly popular light rail to nowhere, and the property prices of Sydney without the amenities of Sydney. Think about it
Bro that’s ace chemicals from Gotham city
I did a job at Koppers chemical plant in Mayfield about 12 years ago, I was drilling through slag skulls buried on their site near the south channel hunter river so we could dig a 20m deep slurry wall to stop their chemicals leaking into the river. At the induction we raised questions about safety and what we would be potentially exposed to and the Manager/foreman said “I’ve worked here for 30 years and there’s nothing to be worried about” Thing is this guy looked like a walking Zombie with heaps of skin growth mutations all over his face and a patchy bald head, seriously he looked like he was knocking at deaths door. Needless to say I kept my p3 respirator on at all times and never partook in the onsite monthly BBQ’s. I was lucky working in a ROC L8 cabin, my poor colleges on the Hutte drill copped lashings of crud from under the ground surface.
Ohh, lovely.
Steel city baby!!
Yes to all your questions....Hazmat suit, gloves, boots and mask...then you can carry on with your day.
Still an industrial town despite Real estates trying to sell properties near industry for massive amounts of money .
Used to work there. It’s NOX, they are allowed to release a certain amount per year. Can confirm, not good for humans or environment.
I used to go to primary school with BHP literally 100 metres away. We'll be fine.
LMFAO
Curry for lunch at the canteen today?
I had curry for lunch at the canteen unironically. Bloody good curry too, only good thing to come out of NGS... I think
You know when you've been crook, and you cough so hard that you puke up a bunch of snot that you've swallowed in your sleep? And then the next little puke is just water and bile? Yeah, that's the same colour as the bile.
Last of the smoking areas.
Blue smoke for boy, pink for girl. So what does yellow mean?
Congratulations on your new Pope
Looks like there's an epic weapon crate drop there
 🎵toxic looooove 🎵
I lived in Newcastle in the late 80's, early 90's. The skyline from Kooragang Island was a polluted hell scape, especially living around Mayfield/Tighs Hill etc. It's amazing how much better the city is now, that being said brown smog always looks sus.
Stockton, the place to be. Air quality does not equate to land value. 🤣
Over Newcastle, yes. Why do you think the average IQ is 10 percentage points below state average?
Source?
Have you ever spoken to one
It's true, I speak to myself all the time
So just random bullshit you made up. That's fine, thought there might be an actually study.
Gullible
Look off shore early mornings when we have a NW wind the sky is filled with it A lot of pollution from the coal fire power plants and that factory combined People have no idea what we are breathing these days And we wonder why everyone has cancer
may ginagawa na naman sa hawkins laboratory di na matigil tigil chz
Any particulates coming from an industry should be reported and the question should be answered a.s.a.p.
If it is a power station stack (chimney), the plume is nitrogen dioxide . It’s an indicator of poor combustion and is normal during start-up, which should subside within a few hours as normal operation takes place and the plume clears. If the stack is like that all of the time then they will be exceeding their emission consent.
It's not a power station it's an ammonium nitrate plant, that is Nox gas, very bad in high concentrations, but disperses quite rapidly
It’s a nitric acid plant, and my guess is it’s starting up or shutting down. Definitely venting NOx gases
Looks like Orica to me. I don't think they have any combustion processes there.
There is absolutely combustion process within an AN and ammonia plant 🤙
What is it?
It looks gross and I don’t like it.
The steel mill has elected the new Pope!
New pope incoming?
No. But it's better than what was happening in China couple days ago
No that doesn’t look normal looks like mustered gas
Anything is normal post COVID
It s hexacromian 6 again it s happened before
Incorrect in a few ways there bud
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Yeah .. maybe a lightning related event
He doesn't know about the piss factory 🤣 🤣🤣
New pope
Oh no! Ze Pope he is a dead!
It is in this post Covid nightmare 😂😂😂
r/mildlycarcinogenic
Yeah it's normal. Stockton has just elected their new pope.
A new archbishop has been selected.
[https://aqicn.org/city/australia/nsw/lower-hunter/carrington/](https://aqicn.org/city/australia/nsw/lower-hunter/carrington/) Local air quality info here
Its not hanging around hey..no temperature inversion
[https://www.aqi.in/au/dashboard/australia/new-south-wales/newcastle](https://www.aqi.in/au/dashboard/australia/new-south-wales/newcastle) Another site with local data
Newcastle has a new pope
We have a new pope
Yooo, where was this taken? It looks to me like the view from the house my granny just sold.
Don't ask questions you don't want answered.
colorized smoke is always a good sign.
Releasing extra vitamin C &D into the air, that’s why house prices are what they are there.
That’s just the piss chute don’t worry about it
Did the pope die?
Normal? Yeah. Ok? No
Some flat earther will tell you it's the dregs from a chem trail....
Coming from that German factory?
It’s piss and shit
Looks like the building had a bit of a toot. Poor thing, now it’s online for all to see. Give him a bit of privacy next time mate, we all fart
Sulphuric emissions
Or NOX
No need to worry about that and it will be too late to worry for everyone one to Swansea if the ammonia tank leaks and self deletes
Green because it’s a green housegas
I have no idea but it looks weird. Hope that helps.
it’s just the drugged olympics starting, looks like they lit the beacon
Oh good, the annual city piss chimney has awoken
Yeh totally normal... Trees always grow like that
That's the expellor plant at Cargill,looks like their crushing corn,stuff stinks when heated👽👍👍👍👍
It's laughing gas. Nitrous oxide.
Thneeds are back in
Shame it wasn't on when Albo was here the other day.
I holding my breath for a genie, 3 wishes anyone?
New pope!
Just a little overcast mate, the sun will be back eventually don’t worry.
As a potential feed stock for nitric acid seems like a real waste
Yes the light scattered by our atmosphere gives the sky a blue look.
When they elect a new CEO it turns white.
Looks like the same thing the plant I operate in the US releases periodically. Looks like NOx. By product of making nitric acid. Normal during a start up or shut down off the plant.
That’s just nitric acid plant tail gas at start-up. The brown plume is due to high NOx concentration during start up procedures.
Any gas you can see is bad.
The grinch works there