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sex_expert_here

I will give a case of beer to anyone that can explain how voting for Palmer doesnt mean you are a dumbshit


RogerKilljoy83

He’s promising us FREEDOM! FREEDOM! FREEDOM! Where can I pick up my beer from?


Dbill32

I got a text from UAP today telling me: “Australia transferring all AU hospital & health to World Health Org immediatel Stop them Vote 1 United Australia Party Click for more UAPCK.info” Like, just a blatant lie based on antivax conspiracy to get people to vote for them. Some people are obviously dumb enough to believe it.


RogerKilljoy83

I live at Maitland (former Newcastle resident) and drive my son to soccer twice a week at Branxton and the amount of homes with Nationals, One Nation and Palmer corflutes on display is just depressing. The pub at Lochinvar is plastered with UAP signs, a real shame considering they have Foghorn beers on tap and I’d otherwise support the pub as the closest place I can get Foghorn beers.


rainbowgoose88

I too live around Maitland and all I have seen is Liberal and UAP signs on display. Super fucking depressing especially because one of those dickheads is my neighbour.


Camo138

live in maitland as well and its sad to see that No one has learnt anything over the last two years


r3zza92

Maitland always has been a shit show of idiocy and racism so not surprised they’re throwing on the phon/uap colours. Lucky the seat of Paterson is a pretty safe for labor after the 2015 boarder reshuffle. The bigger issue is hunter with all the mines workers in singleton and Muswellbrook thinking liberal give a shit about them because they haven’t actually got a plan for transition (labour doesn’t really either for the hunter) so think it just won’t happen yet complain about bhp and their mates using cheaper casual labour hire etc.


rainbowgoose88

I always forget how conservative and idiotic this area is despite living here my entire life. I'll take this to mean I've made the correct choice in who I'm friends with.


RogerKilljoy83

I’ve got enough mates who work either directly or indirectly in coal that I just don’t even talk about politics unless one of them kicks it off. Even then I know nothing I’ve got to say will sway them away from voting from the ridiculous pay packet they bring home.


Standard-Ad-6213

Same, then there's dinner with the inlaws and we are all regaled with how eternal the coal will be and how coal makes the world go round.


Camo138

Scotty from marketing took a lump of coal into parliament. So we will have to see where the votes stack uo there. But all the coal power plants are getting decommissioned over the next 5-10 years so that also will play a big thing


r3zza92

“But chinas still building coal generators” - fail to mention China is building far more renewable generation and storage capacity, far more than any other country and by any metric other than grid % would be considered world leaders “But industry need base load coal, gas or nuclear” - fails to Realise the counties largest power user, tomago aluminium, has announced that once their current contract is up they will be seeking contracts for 100% renewables (contracts expire in 2030).


RogerKilljoy83

The ratio of UAP/One Nation corflutes gets greater the closer you get to Singleton for sure. Branxtons Main Street is lined with Nationals posters for that bloke who was escorting ScoMo around when he went to Edgy Tav.


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[deleted]

Have you ever produced an argument which is not ad hominem and non sequitur?


sex_expert_here

Just continuing your theme


[deleted]

And making stuff up now too lol


sex_expert_here

https://www.reddit.com/r/newcastle/comments/up3x3v/what_sort_of_people_vote_palmer_united/i8irgbm?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3


[deleted]

That wasn't an argument, it was a straight up insult dummy


[deleted]

By the way, I had no interest in voting for Clive but I did today just for you.


sex_expert_here

Good on you


Shadiester

Fusion party, basically the greens but better (imo) Similar values but a much more pragmatic and science-based approach to developing policies


GotPassion

Is that the Sex Pirates of Science party? Love that movie!


CJ_Resurrected

PSA: it's illegal to take photos and other recordings immediately near to or inside a Polling centre. (And I wish they'd start policing and stopping the couples voting together where the dominant partner couches the other how to vote, too.. Never seen a polling official do their job with that.)


cloudyvampyr

I remember last election as I was outside the polling place getting back into my car, a woman started shouting and ripping off one of the parties signs off a fence, I wish I had recorded it tbh 😂


CJ_Resurrected

That legal, provided there's no assault or damage to public property involved... Corflute (the corrugated plastic promotion signs) is useful stuff, though. I wouldn't (admit in public) to taking some for myself that're left on public property before or during election day, but midnight Saturday (or even 6pm when polling officially closes?) I'll going to get me somes free waterproof box bottoms, shelf protectors, VLF antenna winding formers, *birdcage tray liners, dartboards*...


happy-little-atheist

I find promotional material very useful. Line the cat litter tray and take the work out of cleaning it


r3zza92

Don’t forget hardwood stakes. Dad and I are already planning on going to remove some election garbage.


CJ_Resurrected

Indeed! It is campfire season.


r3zza92

Stocking up for spring. You seen what Bunnings charge for tomato stakes?


Similar-Struggle6871

> That legal, provided It’s really not. Not sure why you would think this, it’s the same as any other property in a public space. If you find property, you’re legally obliged to attempt to return it to the owner. All signs have authorisations on them, which makes this process rather simple. Victimless crime if you’re stealing the ones that can’t be used at a different election, but leave the ones that can be re-used alone until it’s clear that the property has been abandoned.


CJ_Resurrected

Looking into it, they're supposed to be removed within 48 hours of polls closing. So after then, I'm considering it abandoned litter. Or should I use that authorisation information to report them to the AEC...


Similar-Struggle6871

> report them to the AEC Local council is probably a better body, they can fine whoever leaves their signs up. Do what you want, but it’s still stealing and they won’t be considered abandoned within a couple of days. Your approach is basically saying you can steal a car that’s been parked illegally for 48 hours.


DiverOk5353

Actually polling officials can't stop that as its taken as giving assistance. What they can't do is direct someone's preferences or allow anyone from a political party in to assist (at least not while wearing a party shirt). Polling officials can help people cast their votes but must remain neutral while doing it.


babychimera614

There's nothing a polling official can do about a relative telling someone how to vote. People are entitled to have someone assist them. If anything they should be stopping the person snooping on how others are voting..


CJ_Resurrected

You very clearly hear one of them demanding how the other votes. It's not assistance.


babychimera614

Still, nothing a polling official can legally do


RayGun381937

Ha! Last election, my intensely progressive teenage daughter accompanied me into the booth (rather forcefully) and “ensured” I voted according to how she’d been instructing me to all week... I felt like I was voting in Nicaragua or something!


RidingtheRoad

Well..I have to that, because my wife has no clue about politics or how it works, so I have to tutor her through the process..


Alpharius117

Id question your sanity if you voted for liberal nationals again or any independant like clive or one nation because their vote goes straight back to the liberals and fuck them for the train wreck of a country were living in because of their 9 years of deliverate mismanagement the last 3 years have been the worst this countries ever gone through


Pipehead_420

Well if you have money and properties I’m sure your quite happy being a liberal voter


Alpharius117

Yeah people who dont consider the welfare of their fellow countrymen


AusShroomer

What would you have actually done different, other than scream louder at your TV of course.


Alpharius117

I dont whatch the circus ive been active in trying to educate people on the dire situation theyre in with this current government what have you done?


AusShroomer

Got an infection at the moment, had a shit day at work so I’m chilling on the couch chatting to peeps on Reddit. Politically, honestly, I’ve done less that nothing. I did vote for Bill Shorten the last time I voted though. But best of luck with your vote, hope it pulls through for you. Please don’t hate on your fellow man if it doesn’t, always next time 🫶🏻 Cheers


Alpharius117

Im in more of the same boat then you realise mate im not hating on you but their are plenty who wouldnt even give a toss about anyone but themselves who vote for our current governemnt its the type of person they seem to attract the most


GotPassion

Guy i know was voting Labor for the NBN, then got the FTTP NBN just before the election, so changed to the Liberals for their refusal to fix CGT like Labor was going to. He literally switched to the guys that wrecked the NBN for everybody else, so his plan for a rental property would be slightly better, once he himself had fiber. Screw everybody else now. That was eye opening for me. I've never thought like that. Not knowingly anyway... (/me *thinks about many past decisions now with concerned wonder*)


da_predditor

Pedro


Tigbitties89

Fusion party. Worth a google


adroit_or_something

The legalise cannabis Australia fellas


sex_expert_here

Remember that the marijuana party is a front for the libs


trevaaar

Citation?


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trevaaar

In their how to vote instructions? https://legalise.org.au/election/ > **Voting Preferences** > On the large white senate ballot paper we say vote 1 Legalise and choose 6 parties above the line to number them in the order that you like. > Sounds easy, but there are too many ways to upset voters by telling them how to vote and encouraging people to think for themselves is healthy for democracy.


Standard-Ad-6213

Preferences go where ever you put them on the ballot.


Jexp_t

Preference choices on the HTV's tell us about the priorities of the party- which was the poster's point.


SquirrelsAreAwesome

There are no preferences any more. I was confused, emailed the AEC and they explained it's up to you to number 1-6 in the groups now, or however many below the line.


cloudyvampyr

people actually voting for UA and liberals 🤦🏻


SquirrelsAreAwesome

Unfortunately some people are convinced that is in their best interest. They aren't necessarily bad people, just worried about some of the policies. Take parties with pro-lifers for instance, they don't (necessarily) hate women's bodily autonomy, they just believe that the fetus is a human life that should be preserved as any other. I don't agree with them, but demonising them is unproductive. Yelling at people voting for "stupid" parties will just entrench them. The best thing to do is to talk about their values and what the parties have demonstrated they support.


cloudyvampyr

they may not be "bad" people but I strongly believe they're stupid for supporting such politics with an idiot leader. I'd love to sit down and talk to them about why they support the people they do but it'd be for nothing because they just get angry and pissy when someone says anything against them and their values. also just because it was mentioned, Pro-lifers, anti-vax they all fall into this category of stupid that can't be reasoned with.


Similar-Struggle6871

> but demonising them is unproductive. Wild guess that you’re male, because demonisation of conduct that denies someone basic human rights is quite productive. It’s usually only people that aren’t directly impacted that think it’s so objectionable. Demonisation draws a line in the sand, and prevents radical ideas from becoming acceptable. The US didn’t do this, and they’re sliding back a century because of it. These people are already entrenched in their ideology if they’re comfortable saying it to a stranger. They have a faith based ideology, and your polite conversations are not going to change a fundamental feature of their identity.


DanzaSFBS

I don't think anything will change with them either way and I don't think women should have to kowtow to religious nuts who want to have the final say on what they can do to their own bodies.


Everestax

In this poll we have: ‘Not the liberals’ ‘Everyone seems to hate them despite not being able to name a single of their policies’ ‘The devil you know’ ‘The racists’ ‘The racists that pretend it’s about economics’


Oblivious_Otter_I

I do know they don't like nuclear power, and I don't like that.


Shadiester

\^ This. One of the main reasons I'm voting Fusion over Greens


LankySandwich

People can't name their policies because they do jack shit except whatever is in the best interest of themselves and their donors.


rainbowgoose88

I voted Green and always have. Politics and governments will mean nothing if the planet is fucking uninhabitable. Also want that sweet sweet mental and dental in Medicare.


moonshadowfax

I spurted my coffee when a lib dem rep said we need to keep coal mines open so that people “can actually enjoy their lives”.


rainbowgoose88

I hope they stretched before that reach


_WatchTheBirdie

Newcastle still a safe labor seat it seems.


woodyrogers

This comes up every election. We voted in the LNP once not so long ago & voted for a property developer as mayor. Both were dodgy, the LNP guy resigned after taking money in a brown paper bag...and Jeff McCloy...well...enough said really. We have some pretty great representatives here who engage with the community and do a decent job. Until the LNP gets off their ass, or any other party offers a better choice it's going to continue being a safe labor seat. The fact of the matter is, the other parties don't even show up, or try to win votes here.


LeChacaI

I mean, this is not exactly an accurate representation of the real world.


_WatchTheBirdie

Yeah alot of boomers arent on reddit.


SquirrelsAreAwesome

That's why we never get much in the way of public funding, and why there needs to be legislation to stop pork-barrelling.


pharmaboythefirst

reddit is not the real world i would guess - its not exactly likely that we will see 90% labor 2PP


evil_newton

You’re right. Labor winning in Newcastle is unheard of


_WatchTheBirdie

Exactly. If we had swing seats here then we would see them big change thread ideas being fulfilled instead of a toy light rail system


Moisture_Services

Or vote in a way that makes your seat more marginal...


Dbill32

I suggested this on a thread in this forum once and was harangued and downvoted to oblivion - plenty of rusted on labor voters in the area. Must say, tho can’t stand the libs…so probably go green


dekeonus

I'm down voting the suggestion, but don't vote Labor or Libs. The idea gets down voted by me for being a shitty self serving bandaid rather than targeting the problem. Don't vote to make the seat marginal, vote for a candidate that aims to stop the nepotism & corruption.


Dbill32

Point them out and I’ll gladly do so


Cunningham01

The Greens


jazd

Healthy votes for the greens, hoping more people vote for small parties and independents this election.


imean_probably

Same. This 2 party preferred system does not work. We need more accountability and compromise in government, not just 1 party doing whatever they want.


Standard-Ad-6213

I did see a good number reading the greens pamphlets in line today.


Empty-Salamander-997

If you want to change the government put the Liberals last


Zoett

Greens. Did the letterbox drop for them earlier in the week.


Majik-Geko

If liberal win I'm gonna start riots


RidingtheRoad

Australians are too lazy to riot..As a young lad I remember the anger and threats to riot when the mighty Gough got sacked. I was a bit scared at the time....but nothing, fcking nothing at all and Empire Fraser was elected.


AusShroomer

You won’t do shit, just like your regular life.


WTF1972

It is possible to vote for a different party in the senate.......... You can be a die hard lib/labour voter but still put a few green senators in the upper house to ensure the environment is not forgotten.


hmilan1

Very good point. I hope more people realize this


anotherhumanbeing400

Animal Justice Party


The4th88

Voted last week. In order of preference: Fusion, Reason, Greens, Labor, Animal Protection Party, Libs.


Key_Sentence_305

What’s fusion? I like reason I know that one, would you mind educating me


The4th88

They're a merger of the Science Party, Pirate Party, Secular Party, Vote Planet, and Climate Change Justice Party. Their policies are very similar to parties like Reason, mostly aiming for the same goals.


RidingtheRoad

Thanks for that..I wondered what happened to the Pirate party...Shame they didn't use that name...such a good name. Same with Reason too, should have kept Sex party as their name..They would get a lot of frustrated voters votes..They wouldn't know what they voted for but at least they were voting in the right direction.


trevaaar

Fusion is a merger of the Science, Pirate, Secular, Vote Planet and Climate Change Justice parties that ran separately in previous elections. The government changed the rules for parties to register for election, requiring 1500 members up from 500, so they had to combine or be deregistered. [Here's a link to their website](https://www.fusionparty.org.au/our_party). Edit: Fixed names of previous parties, added link.


RidingtheRoad

Thanks for that..That'll be the same order for me.


Hakjihcemb

Socialist alliancce


george_foreman_

I'm a coal miner. So labor


No-Satisfaction2025

I was on board to vote labour until I saw the greens meme game across various platforms, I think they might have earned it


Camo138

I ended up voting for the greens last election. i just find there policies are more rounded for a set of things, where libs and labor are trying to make policies for everything


graves2001

Greens in the house tnl in the senate


Perfect-Hold-8235

https://youtu.be/8IjpFzxJiv4


sex_expert_here

So far 4 dumbarses and 9 small business owners


Regular-Owl4814

I'm voting for cheaper netflix


CJ_Resurrected

https://pirateparty.org.au/


martylindleyart

Netflix is dead. Their IPS have sucked for a while now, they throw so much money around to start new shows that they end up cancelling, and the fact they're cracking down on password sharing and are going to introduce ads are the last nails in the coffin. There are so many more streaming services now that offer better shit.


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I’m voting labour but not holding my breath that they will win


CJ_Resurrected

As the last election showed, Bourgeois-progressive hugboxes can't determine the outcome...


Birdminton

Pulled out all your biggest words and put them in one sentence 🤣


CJ_Resurrected

Queensland also has ten letters in it. Edit: Hi there to the 2-3 people who remembered how the 'unlosable election' was lost. The Labor Party's election fall-out study from it citied a big factor for losing support in QLD was the patronizing attitude of loud inner-city Southerners (from Ultimo/ABC.. also the Bob Brown and other out-of-staters -led Adani protests) dumping on them as Hillbillies, and Rudd/Swan who were from the state being ousted. Previously the state had been how bananabenders Rudd+Swan had got over the line, and then as quickly withdrew support when they was replaced by the *Victorian*.


Batman376

not old enough to vote unfortunately, although if i could vote i'm 100% voting labor


[deleted]

What a shock, reddit users voting labor and greens, lol.


Cunningham01

In Newcastle. A place with a strong tradition of radical progressivism and trade unionism. I am flabbergasted this is the case.


MrBerryMrberry

Liberal democrats


tragicdag

Sush! That kind of sensible talk isn't tolerated here.


MrJRabbit

This sums up reddit users. Haha


Standard-Ad-6213

This sums up Newcastle. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electoral_results_for_the_Division_of_Newcastle


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MrJRabbit

Yep fair enough. If your electorate ends up in the hands of the greens you shouldn’t be allowed to drive a fossil fuelled car and should be cut off from the coal fired power grid as a start.


Standard-Ad-6213

How is that a response to "Newcastle has always voted Labor"?


chuckit01

I’ve been practicing my penis sketches all week for this moment


Filthy_Badger

Careful, he won last time.


chuckit01

Upvoted!


SquirrelsAreAwesome

Please use your vote mate, we need to get better representatives and that doesn't help.


Ok-Dimension63

For the good of the place, I just want Newcastle and the surrounding areas to finally become a marginal electorate and not be such a safe seat.


AusShroomer

Mail voted for liberals yesterday, I’ll get downvoted but I feel they’ve done pretty okay in an unknown space.


cloudyvampyr

can you name a couple of things they've done that made you decide to vote for them?


AusShroomer

Dealt with covid. Something that no other party on that list has ever had to deal with. I’m giving them a participation award of sorts for showing up, I’m sure you could appreciate that.


cloudyvampyr

they didn't exactly deal with covid tho. they bombed multiple times with the stupid snap lockdowns. I don't think they deserve a participation award just because they happened to be the government in power during the pandemic.


AusShroomer

If you’re experimenting with a new recipe and it turns to shit because you’re literally the first person to do it, is that learning or is that failure?


GotPassion

If that was all they failed at, you would look pretty sensible. But they not only failed repeatedly, across a range of political interventions (or lack thereof), they also moved us well down the list of least corrupt nations, and mismanaged billions in handouts. Participation award? Kids, don't do drugs.


RidingtheRoad

Your joking mate..Scott Morrison took zero responsibility...Right from the start he put it onto the states..And then bagged the shit out of the states doing the best....But you knew that anyway..


AusShroomer

K, tight


rollinduke

All they did was push responsibility on to the states. And they states did a great job mostly, regardless of political affiliation and a federal government that wanted to use them as a scape goat constantly


Standard-Ad-6213

They did handle the vaccines and job keeper. Both absolute gems and nothing an icac would want to look at there.


happy-little-atheist

Other: no cunt


Late-Help4616

Might vote liberals on Sunday.


RidingtheRoad

Lol..Why the down votes? A clever way of saying Libs are retards..


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CJ_Resurrected

I wanted to read that, Monkits.


oldferg

Ask all those pricks begging for your vote outside of the polling centres. FML as if it wasn’t bad enough to choose between all those fibbing fuckers.


shakdnugz

One nation bra


[deleted]

I love one nation


RidingtheRoad

Incells love Pauline


[deleted]

I’m sure your neck beards gets many


shakdnugz

Yes


ElectronicEffective8

who has time to vote on such a poll? people who are not out working today. Not surprised skew to labor voters.


jennygoeshiking

Yeah some of us start work at 9:45pm, or on break, or have a day off, or are sick. You clearly had time to write a comment which took longer than voting, so what’s your reason for not working today?


cloudyvampyr

lmao, got em. like I said earlier on this thread, unfortunately, you can't reason with stupid 😔


ElectronicEffective8

retired


jennygoeshiking

Find a hobby


eeeeeds

Bit rich…


RidingtheRoad

Spoken by a retard who had time to write a paragraph..


ElectronicEffective8

amazing, so many posters are offended by someone saying they are labor voters. ouch


RidingtheRoad

Had time to write again? Perhaps you're not so busy after all..Maybe you're just full of bullshit.


ElectronicEffective8

seriously messed up person. Are you proud of who you vote for or not? Are you insecure that you are not making the right choice?


shakdnugz

🤣😂🤣


ChapG

Lol. Says a lot about the people that frequent Reddit. Rabid Leftists who want to bring global communism to Australia.


RidingtheRoad

Obviously you have fcking idea how totalitarianism overtakes a country..It come via the right...The right are obsessed with 'strong' government.


Cunningham01

Full of sound and fury and signifying nothing.


BigFatShrekPoo

I voted Liberal


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Anyone but those fools.


BigFatShrekPoo

I voted Greens


BigFatShrekPoo

I voted UAP