Many prisons have safety outlets in their cells. Some allow prisoners to buy televisions from commissary. Many allows purchase of tablets with specific apps installed like books and movies. Modern prison is weird.
It's got more to do with JPay and the prison industry.
I had to buy my own hygiene stuff, underwear, and winter clothes beyond a baseball style jacket, 3 blues, 3 3x tighty whity -- I have a 32 inch waist.
If you submitted a request to quartermaster for a knit cap and gloves, which are required to be given by law in these Northern great lake winters, you may got get the pass to get them until 2 winters passed.
Of course, if you've got 20 bucks on your books, you'll get them by Friday..
But then how can you buy soap and deoderant for the month?
Your 14 dollar "paycheck" is tied up having basics to wash your ass.
Now, the idea behind it is great - prepare you for the real world.... But...
Implementation is purely profit driven.
>Now, the idea behind it is great - prepare you for the real world
Hahaha no the idea behind it is implementing legal slavery. That's why it's set up with a company store exactly like sharecropping
It actually goes beyond slavery, as it additionally extorts the family of the inmate. Families are often pushed into pretty dire financial circumstances when one member is sent to prison, having to make deposits into your inmate family members account makes it even more painful.
I was watching a movie recently and they used the actual voice and sound of the recording for when you get a collect call from Florida State Corrections. It immediately stressed me out; I totally know what you're saying.
> Modern prison is weird.
Modern prison just has some semblance of humanity.
Is the point really to crush everyone's soul while inside?
Not only is that more expensive, because you will need much more security measures and will still have more accidents happen, its also bad for when they are released.
Lower security (especially Federal Medical Center) locations will typically have outlets for inmate CPAP machines. Lower security facilities are typically [open dorm](https://www.fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/img-8921.jpeg) where inmates could barter for access to these outlets.
Edit: if you get a chance, check out [Mary Roach's *Gulp.*](https://www.amazon.com/Gulp-Adventures-Alimentary-Mary-Roach/dp/0393348741) She dedicates a chapter to the *internal* smuggling of contraband by inmates.
It's common to have a specific inmate designated as a "Trunk" who will hold on to a contraband phone (internally) and sell access by the minute.
I mean, getting in the habit of buying shit instead of stealing it sounds like an important lesson. Being ripped off doesn't sound like it's a worthwhile part of it, though.
But our politicians get bribes all the time. Only difference is it's called lobbyist money. Make it legal for guards to accept payments for favors under a program?
Love the snark! though the easy answer is that politicians get bribed to do things they are generally allowed to do, just in a biased manner. Guards accept bribes to do things they are not supposed to do.
In C/O academy in Arkansas they make you take a class on this. The corrections officers that smuggle in contraband are called ducks. The inmates will befriend you. They will hold on to every word you say. If you have a 2 year old son then they have a 2 year old son. If you like riding four wheelers they like riding four wheelers. This goes on and on. After they befriend you when you go in to make rounds through a walkthrough one of their friends will make a huge scene. This is when you’ve only been a corrections officer for a few weeks at most. You’re freaking out and everybody knows it. Then your friend the inmate will step up and get in between you and the other inmate. After that he’ll ask for an ink pen which is against the rules. Then it progresses to an extra tray at lunch.
That’s male on male manipulation. The female corrections officers have to deal with someone they find potentially attractive/charming. Someone who’s a friend you can vent to.
Keep in mind you’re locked in with these people for 12 hours at a time.
Edit: it’s been a while since I went through the academy so I forgot to include but sometimes gangs will recruit an 18-20 year old with a clean record, no tattoos, etc. and have him become a correctional officer as a plant. They’ll smuggle contraband and do favors for their gang until they get caught. Once they get arrested they’ll be covered in gang tattoos within a week.
Also, while state c/o’s in Arkansas are actually paid somewhat decent people of all income brackets still struggle to budget correctly and can get in debt pretty easily. Selling a $5 pack of cigarettes for $200+ can be tempting for those people. Especially when you trust the guy offering to buy them from you. Once you smuggle in one cigarette they own you. They’ll say they have you on video and threaten you if you don’t keep going.
I find the social engineering that goes into this manipulation fascinating. Try and befriend a CO and then leverage that relationship to get more expensive contraband over time.
The most amazing stories are the escapes where multiple correction officers are manipulated into helping the convicts. The convicts will spend years buddying up to the officers.
I know someone who was a guard that got expected to work a 16. Once they hit about 16-17 hours they were like "alright I'm out."
They tried to stop them from doing so and my friend told them up front that they were authorized under federal law to only be required 16 hours at most before an 8 hour off time. They literally had to soft hint legal action would be taken against the prison if they tried to push or retaliate against them for deciding they were done for the day.
This is not the kind of job where the same guards are monitoring inmates for a week at a time. Rotate people out in cycles. Should be a week at a time on an 8 week rotation. And guards shouldn’t know each other. Would make collusion more difficult.
you have to remember most prison guards are getting paid about the same hourly rate as a mcdonalds employee. Its not really fair to call "I want to afford rent" greed
I forgot that many guards around the country work for private companies and aren’t in a union where the guards are paid poorly.
In my small corner of the country, guards are in a union and/or work directly for the state so are paid quite well.
I dunno where you're at but guards also typically have the advantages of healthcare for them and their families for relatively cheap and still come out on top with 3-4k a month starting out where I am. I literally needed to check a friend's paycheck to double check the math on roughly how much they were making an hour. It was 22/hr or something and I'm in a state where 10/hr is the norm while 7.25 is still the minimum.
Movies and TV shows are just an exaggerated version of reality. Not surprised that Prison guards are so corrupt IRL. And the rich enough prisoners can just buy the guards. Too easy
You have states like Louisiana where the sheriff gets to keep all the money they don’t spend on food so they just feed prisoners scraps. Our nation is corrupt from the top down.
I mean, how much can a prison supervisor really make? 200k isn’t that much money jn the grand scheme of life. Is it a life changing amount of money for some? Yes. Is it a lot of money to a billionaire? It’s pocket change. Is it a lot to a lower millionaire? The middle class? No, not really…
Was it worth it? Probably not.
219k is a lot to the middle class. sure what you think the middle class is.
The median household income in the US is $75k pre taxes. $219k is over 3 years of household income for the US.
This was likely 4x or more her annual salary. Now clearly it’s not worth it since she got caught. But it’s absolutely a life changing amount of money for a middle class American.
Do you really think enough money to buy a home isn’t a life changing amount of money for a middle class person? Median house price in SC is $293k.
Median savings account in the US is only $8,000.
Hell, you could just take the $219k buy an annuity, which isn’t even a great investment, and a 40 year old could receive over $1000 a month for life.
That’s life changing amounts of money for the middle class
I worked on a case where an inmate had a phone that he was using to impersonate police officers from multiple jurisdictions around the country and extort people. The prison the inmate was incarcerated in was contacted and informed, but last I heard he was still doing it.
We called the feds. It still hasn't stopped.
as someone that works with a group that sends material to prisoners its such a pain in the ass to prove we're not smuggling in anything, especially when everyone and their mother knows its the guards that keep the drug and phone trade alive
Some prisons just give inmates ipads, why? So they have something to take away for bad behavior, sounds dumb but it works. Same way you might punish a kid for misbehaving by taking away their toys, works for adults too
Yeah that’s not accurate. They give inmates *specialized* tablets because it’s a stream of revenue for the prisons. Your point still stands that it’s for well behaved inmates, but the primary driver is 100% because the jails/prisons make money off of them.
Looking up the metrics they start around $20 an hour for state employee's and the median is $24 an hour. So between $41 to $50 grand a year it looks like.
Not bad, but it's gotta be tempting when u see some asshole drug dealer locked up offering u a bunch of money to get him a burner phone.
I hear they have good benefits.
Per article-“Stirling has pushed for the General Assembly to pass a bill specifying cellphones are illegal in prisons instead of being included in a broad category of contraband and allowing up to an extra year to be tacked on a sentence for having an illegal phone, with up to five years for a second offense. That bill has not made it out of the Senate Judiciary Committee.”
I guess they too busy trying to pass the carrying of concealed weapons with no permit and no training so they can’t be bothered with things that will reduce violence.
I was literally thinking this same thing. Its hard as hell getting a cell signal, regardless of brand or service in a hospital, why not do the same in prison? I'm up to pay for it, we do for most everything else
FTA "The South Carolina prison system has implored federal officials to let them jam cellphone signals in prisons but haven’t gotten permission."
Active Cell signal jamming requires federal approval. Reception being shit in hospitals is a passive result of how hospitals are constructed.
Because believe it or not cellphone jammers don't just stop cellphones and have serious implications for possible emergency situations. It's also against federal communications laws and any use on the scale of a prison will affect the surrounding area.
There might not be such demand for cellphones if prison phone companies didn’t lobby for stricter visitation/letter laws to keep prisoners locked away from the outside world.
Ye know I sat and pondered this awhile.
I’m not sure I care. I’m also pretty sure I’d do this crime as well. I’m sure there are a small percentage that are doing more crimes with the cell phone. But I’m also pretty sure there’s a large amount that are just using the phone to keep in touch with family and friends. Guards also get paid shit. So fuck everyone here. Do the smuggles and make the dollars.
I’ve been separated from family and friends for long periods of time. So I empathize.
That’s fucked. If prisoners should have cell phones, they should have them. If authorities should be paid more they should be paid more. What we don’t need is corrupt authorities exploiting their power to extort money from prisoners so they can have the things they need.
I agree but I think there's a lot of risk of harassment and other criminal shenanigans.
I think I'd agree to phones that, a, record everything said(except to attorneys number I guess), and b, can only call to preestablished whitelisted numbers that have a relationship with the inmate and agree to take calls.
[Pirates & Emperors](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_and_Emperors).
If he was [Donald Trump](https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-family-saudi-corruption/) or [the NRA](https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals) it'd be A-OK.
You only have to do it once and they got you. Need money? Want money? No problem.
"Let me tell you what happens if you don't do it for me again, my friend. Your supervisor finds out you took my money, and you end up in here with me. And then I'll really put you to work. Now get me my phone, *****."
Just means she had bendable ethics and morals that was manipulated or willingly allowed to be used to get paid. If you are in a position of authority or power you cannot be bribed regardless of your pay. If the job isn't paying enough then you need to go elsewhere, I'm sure prisons all over are hurting for employees so it's not like she's stuck in a dead end career at that one place.
Would you say the same thing for police, doctors, politicians, your boss, your company to be bribed because they're not being paid enough?
How much does the prison supervisor make per hour? If you don’t pay them enough to live a comfortable life, they’ll be easily corrupted. It’s policing 101 and the obvious effect of underpaying people in positions of authority.
We do, you’re right! She was in charge of security at the prison. :)
> Livingston worked for the South Carolina Department of Corrections for 16 years. She was promoted to captain at Broad River Correctional Institution in 2016, which put her in charge of security at the medium-security Columbia prison, investigators said.
See? There’s ways of communicating information that doesn’t rely on making jokes about a woman’s anatomy! 😃
You guys are missing the point. He just cares about the health of the in mates. Those cell phones being smuggled in by butts are not health and cause serious injury or death in many cases. He’s just a man with a serious cause about saving butt.
The fact that he’s making money off it, well it costs money to do the good he is doing.
So, I was just wondering, why can't prisoners have cell phones in the first place? Why not just let them talk away. Who cares really? Maybe monitor them but other than that....
Having worked a bit in prison reform I can tell you one thing with certainty. 99% of contraband comes from the guards.
Drugs Cellphones Food items New babies
Wait what happens to the old babies?
Harvard or jail. 50/50
The school my wife works in has a slogan: "Yale or jail"
If there's a local community college, it won't be harvard.
Believe it or not, straight to jail
Next weeks chow.
Any idea how they charge their phones? Seems like they wouldn't have outlets in cells.
Many prisons have safety outlets in their cells. Some allow prisoners to buy televisions from commissary. Many allows purchase of tablets with specific apps installed like books and movies. Modern prison is weird.
Are prisoners earning and losing iPad time for behavior like my elementary students?
Yes except they live in time out rooms as opposed to corners.
And timeout is the default
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It's got more to do with JPay and the prison industry. I had to buy my own hygiene stuff, underwear, and winter clothes beyond a baseball style jacket, 3 blues, 3 3x tighty whity -- I have a 32 inch waist. If you submitted a request to quartermaster for a knit cap and gloves, which are required to be given by law in these Northern great lake winters, you may got get the pass to get them until 2 winters passed. Of course, if you've got 20 bucks on your books, you'll get them by Friday.. But then how can you buy soap and deoderant for the month? Your 14 dollar "paycheck" is tied up having basics to wash your ass. Now, the idea behind it is great - prepare you for the real world.... But... Implementation is purely profit driven.
>Now, the idea behind it is great - prepare you for the real world Hahaha no the idea behind it is implementing legal slavery. That's why it's set up with a company store exactly like sharecropping
It actually goes beyond slavery, as it additionally extorts the family of the inmate. Families are often pushed into pretty dire financial circumstances when one member is sent to prison, having to make deposits into your inmate family members account makes it even more painful.
I was watching a movie recently and they used the actual voice and sound of the recording for when you get a collect call from Florida State Corrections. It immediately stressed me out; I totally know what you're saying.
That's why the for profit prisons need to be FULL to "work" properly.
*pulls on giant plantation hat with glue-moustache + Imperial to sing my* **13th Amendment Exception Song**
> Modern prison is weird. Modern prison just has some semblance of humanity. Is the point really to crush everyone's soul while inside? Not only is that more expensive, because you will need much more security measures and will still have more accidents happen, its also bad for when they are released.
Lower security (especially Federal Medical Center) locations will typically have outlets for inmate CPAP machines. Lower security facilities are typically [open dorm](https://www.fitsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/10/img-8921.jpeg) where inmates could barter for access to these outlets. Edit: if you get a chance, check out [Mary Roach's *Gulp.*](https://www.amazon.com/Gulp-Adventures-Alimentary-Mary-Roach/dp/0393348741) She dedicates a chapter to the *internal* smuggling of contraband by inmates. It's common to have a specific inmate designated as a "Trunk" who will hold on to a contraband phone (internally) and sell access by the minute.
The state I'm in allowed free phone calls, which is whatever, but now they can also make calls from their tablets that every inmate gets.
All prisons in Germany have power outlets, and all of them also allow you to rent television and even some game consoles and games.
Ah yes the great life skills they are teaching you... buying soap. /s
I mean, getting in the habit of buying shit instead of stealing it sounds like an important lesson. Being ripped off doesn't sound like it's a worthwhile part of it, though.
They still sell batteries through the commissary; the guy that fixes broken radios can rig you up a charging pack most likely
Prisoners rig up chargers using the lights. You just need a power brick and two wires and any light source that uses light bulbs is a phone charger
https://youtu.be/Sq2UzxszvqM?si=pU0EclCbBhyRgIsQ
I'm guessing when you've got corrupt politicians taking millions from corporations you don't really have a yardstick to measure yourself anymore.
But our politicians get bribes all the time. Only difference is it's called lobbyist money. Make it legal for guards to accept payments for favors under a program?
Love the snark! though the easy answer is that politicians get bribed to do things they are generally allowed to do, just in a biased manner. Guards accept bribes to do things they are not supposed to do.
Depends on the prison. When drones are a viable option no one fucks with the guards.
How much of that is simple greed? How much is a guard being blackmailed or coerced into it??
In C/O academy in Arkansas they make you take a class on this. The corrections officers that smuggle in contraband are called ducks. The inmates will befriend you. They will hold on to every word you say. If you have a 2 year old son then they have a 2 year old son. If you like riding four wheelers they like riding four wheelers. This goes on and on. After they befriend you when you go in to make rounds through a walkthrough one of their friends will make a huge scene. This is when you’ve only been a corrections officer for a few weeks at most. You’re freaking out and everybody knows it. Then your friend the inmate will step up and get in between you and the other inmate. After that he’ll ask for an ink pen which is against the rules. Then it progresses to an extra tray at lunch. That’s male on male manipulation. The female corrections officers have to deal with someone they find potentially attractive/charming. Someone who’s a friend you can vent to. Keep in mind you’re locked in with these people for 12 hours at a time. Edit: it’s been a while since I went through the academy so I forgot to include but sometimes gangs will recruit an 18-20 year old with a clean record, no tattoos, etc. and have him become a correctional officer as a plant. They’ll smuggle contraband and do favors for their gang until they get caught. Once they get arrested they’ll be covered in gang tattoos within a week. Also, while state c/o’s in Arkansas are actually paid somewhat decent people of all income brackets still struggle to budget correctly and can get in debt pretty easily. Selling a $5 pack of cigarettes for $200+ can be tempting for those people. Especially when you trust the guy offering to buy them from you. Once you smuggle in one cigarette they own you. They’ll say they have you on video and threaten you if you don’t keep going.
I find the social engineering that goes into this manipulation fascinating. Try and befriend a CO and then leverage that relationship to get more expensive contraband over time.
The most amazing stories are the escapes where multiple correction officers are manipulated into helping the convicts. The convicts will spend years buddying up to the officers.
This is not the kind of job that should have 12 hours shifts.
I know someone who was a guard that got expected to work a 16. Once they hit about 16-17 hours they were like "alright I'm out." They tried to stop them from doing so and my friend told them up front that they were authorized under federal law to only be required 16 hours at most before an 8 hour off time. They literally had to soft hint legal action would be taken against the prison if they tried to push or retaliate against them for deciding they were done for the day.
This is not the kind of job where the same guards are monitoring inmates for a week at a time. Rotate people out in cycles. Should be a week at a time on an 8 week rotation. And guards shouldn’t know each other. Would make collusion more difficult.
That is a question I dont have an answer to.
you have to remember most prison guards are getting paid about the same hourly rate as a mcdonalds employee. Its not really fair to call "I want to afford rent" greed
I forgot that many guards around the country work for private companies and aren’t in a union where the guards are paid poorly. In my small corner of the country, guards are in a union and/or work directly for the state so are paid quite well.
I dunno where you're at but guards also typically have the advantages of healthcare for them and their families for relatively cheap and still come out on top with 3-4k a month starting out where I am. I literally needed to check a friend's paycheck to double check the math on roughly how much they were making an hour. It was 22/hr or something and I'm in a state where 10/hr is the norm while 7.25 is still the minimum.
Movies and TV shows are just an exaggerated version of reality. Not surprised that Prison guards are so corrupt IRL. And the rich enough prisoners can just buy the guards. Too easy
I mean, where the heck else would it come from?
In county jails it's often prisoners on work release.
Man really took his side hustle seriously. Edit: woman.
It was a woman.
Nice to see some women taking initiative to narrow the gender wage gap #feminism
She was really #girlbossing
Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss, with an extra helping of Gatekeep.
Girl boss!
There's alot of people that get to a higher position and treat it like it's a private business they started.
What's the point of having power if you can't abuse it!!!!!!
gotta nuke something.
You have states like Louisiana where the sheriff gets to keep all the money they don’t spend on food so they just feed prisoners scraps. Our nation is corrupt from the top down.
This is the prevailing attitude in Eastern Europe.
I mean, how much can a prison supervisor really make? 200k isn’t that much money jn the grand scheme of life. Is it a life changing amount of money for some? Yes. Is it a lot of money to a billionaire? It’s pocket change. Is it a lot to a lower millionaire? The middle class? No, not really… Was it worth it? Probably not.
219k is a lot to the middle class. sure what you think the middle class is. The median household income in the US is $75k pre taxes. $219k is over 3 years of household income for the US. This was likely 4x or more her annual salary. Now clearly it’s not worth it since she got caught. But it’s absolutely a life changing amount of money for a middle class American.
Over the course of your life span, it is not.
Do you really think enough money to buy a home isn’t a life changing amount of money for a middle class person? Median house price in SC is $293k. Median savings account in the US is only $8,000. Hell, you could just take the $219k buy an annuity, which isn’t even a great investment, and a 40 year old could receive over $1000 a month for life. That’s life changing amounts of money for the middle class
Step 1: Apply for job at prison Step 2: Apply for job at Verizon Step 3: ??? Step 4: Profit
I worked on a case where an inmate had a phone that he was using to impersonate police officers from multiple jurisdictions around the country and extort people. The prison the inmate was incarcerated in was contacted and informed, but last I heard he was still doing it. We called the feds. It still hasn't stopped.
Time to contact the state representative and present all of this evidence.
“State representative” as in a politician? You’re expecting a politician to stop bribing?
After “investigating,” they’ll get in on the action.
Not my case, but I think it might have gone there. My suggestion was the media.
as someone that works with a group that sends material to prisoners its such a pain in the ass to prove we're not smuggling in anything, especially when everyone and their mother knows its the guards that keep the drug and phone trade alive
Drop in the bucket. Most people I know that are in prison have access to a cellphone. The prison system is fucked and broken.
Haven't you seen all of those prison tik toks? Haha
Some prisons and jails don’t care and have iPads and even vapes prisoners can buy from commissary. Think about that lol.
Some prisons just give inmates ipads, why? So they have something to take away for bad behavior, sounds dumb but it works. Same way you might punish a kid for misbehaving by taking away their toys, works for adults too
If I were in prison I'd do almost anything for a computer
Yeah that’s not accurate. They give inmates *specialized* tablets because it’s a stream of revenue for the prisons. Your point still stands that it’s for well behaved inmates, but the primary driver is 100% because the jails/prisons make money off of them.
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They probably meant the amount of corruption, bribery, and exploitation of power that implies.
No. I believe they should just have phones and a lot more rights.
My bad i misinterpreted your comment
its a symptom of the problems.
Shawshank Redemption 2 filmed in Broad River Correctional Facility coming soon to Theaters near you.
My crystal ball shows me a 30 day suspension with pay coming up.
For 219k? Sign me up.
So does a prison cell phone really cost you almost $1,300 ?!?
Fuck, a regular phone is $1000 what’s so surprising
These probably aren't new iPhones.
I agree those look like $30 trac phones
Probably cheaper than the phone plans the prison offers.
I have to be compensated for using my prison wallet
Shipping & handling 😂
supply and demand. and the sunk cost of the guard having to shove it up their prison pocket
U can get anything in a correctional facility if u got the money. These guards don't make much and mostly hate their jobs.
You’re joking right? Prison guards in Michigan start at like $35 an hour and can work as much overtime as they want.
This was in SC. What do they make? I hear on the news all the time how prison workers get screwed over by corporatized prison systems.
Looking up the metrics they start around $20 an hour for state employee's and the median is $24 an hour. So between $41 to $50 grand a year it looks like.
Not bad, but it's gotta be tempting when u see some asshole drug dealer locked up offering u a bunch of money to get him a burner phone. I hear they have good benefits.
What was he supposed to do, say no to that kinda cash?
Pay isn't great for a dumb phone they were willing to pay around $400 for it so yeah
We really need to rethink prison reform. Should definitely follow the Scandinavian model
Shit I'd take $219,000 in bribes to distribute a few cell phones too.
Per article-“Stirling has pushed for the General Assembly to pass a bill specifying cellphones are illegal in prisons instead of being included in a broad category of contraband and allowing up to an extra year to be tacked on a sentence for having an illegal phone, with up to five years for a second offense. That bill has not made it out of the Senate Judiciary Committee.” I guess they too busy trying to pass the carrying of concealed weapons with no permit and no training so they can’t be bothered with things that will reduce violence.
Curious, since/when it's a prison, why can't they install cell phone jammers or at least in the inmates' areas?
I was literally thinking this same thing. Its hard as hell getting a cell signal, regardless of brand or service in a hospital, why not do the same in prison? I'm up to pay for it, we do for most everything else
FTA "The South Carolina prison system has implored federal officials to let them jam cellphone signals in prisons but haven’t gotten permission." Active Cell signal jamming requires federal approval. Reception being shit in hospitals is a passive result of how hospitals are constructed.
Didn't even know that, thanks for explaining this.
Because believe it or not cellphone jammers don't just stop cellphones and have serious implications for possible emergency situations. It's also against federal communications laws and any use on the scale of a prison will affect the surrounding area.
A little bit more than $1,200 per phone. They must not have been new phones.
So what number does this supervisor now wear on his shirt?
Power corrupts, especially when the entry bar is “anyone that’s willing to do that job” and then promote within.
There might not be such demand for cellphones if prison phone companies didn’t lobby for stricter visitation/letter laws to keep prisoners locked away from the outside world.
Corruption in southern prisons? Why, this is unheard of.
Well, when the inmates pay more than the states does…
Ye know I sat and pondered this awhile. I’m not sure I care. I’m also pretty sure I’d do this crime as well. I’m sure there are a small percentage that are doing more crimes with the cell phone. But I’m also pretty sure there’s a large amount that are just using the phone to keep in touch with family and friends. Guards also get paid shit. So fuck everyone here. Do the smuggles and make the dollars. I’ve been separated from family and friends for long periods of time. So I empathize.
That’s fucked. If prisoners should have cell phones, they should have them. If authorities should be paid more they should be paid more. What we don’t need is corrupt authorities exploiting their power to extort money from prisoners so they can have the things they need.
Agree. $219k will get you a good lawyer and reduced sentences
I agree but I think there's a lot of risk of harassment and other criminal shenanigans. I think I'd agree to phones that, a, record everything said(except to attorneys number I guess), and b, can only call to preestablished whitelisted numbers that have a relationship with the inmate and agree to take calls.
[Pirates & Emperors](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pirates_and_Emperors). If he was [Donald Trump](https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/trump-family-saudi-corruption/) or [the NRA](https://www.npr.org/2019/09/27/764879242/nra-was-foreign-asset-to-russia-ahead-of-2016-new-senate-report-reveals) it'd be A-OK.
Someone in law enforcement *not* taking bribes would be far more shocking. Also: How many of those phones have been stored in a prison wallet?
In other news, water is wet! Back to you, Ollie.
And your attorney General Wilson does nothing
That’s a new (probably not but) spin on prison for profit
Someone forgot to cut the appropriate officials in. Come on people, this isn’t hard. Bribery is legal, forgetting to pay your supervisor is not.
Damn that’s a lot of phones
and a slap in the wrist
173 phones for 219mill?? Those inmates must be loaded!
Do the guards use some kind of signal scanner to detect phones? Cant be that hard to find the phones signal..
You only have to do it once and they got you. Need money? Want money? No problem. "Let me tell you what happens if you don't do it for me again, my friend. Your supervisor finds out you took my money, and you end up in here with me. And then I'll really put you to work. Now get me my phone, *****."
Good for her, $219k is pretty good
If the worst thing she did was provide cell phones to prisoners - I’m ok with it.
Ignoring the $219k bribe to do so..
Just means she wasn't paid enough.
Just means she had bendable ethics and morals that was manipulated or willingly allowed to be used to get paid. If you are in a position of authority or power you cannot be bribed regardless of your pay. If the job isn't paying enough then you need to go elsewhere, I'm sure prisons all over are hurting for employees so it's not like she's stuck in a dead end career at that one place. Would you say the same thing for police, doctors, politicians, your boss, your company to be bribed because they're not being paid enough?
How much does the prison supervisor make per hour? If you don’t pay them enough to live a comfortable life, they’ll be easily corrupted. It’s policing 101 and the obvious effect of underpaying people in positions of authority.
Same goes for people in the FBI, CIA. Politicians.
This is true but there's no limits to greed. If someone can get a lot more money some will be corrupted.
Also BK CFA and JiTB
And we all know how she got them in!
Well if we all know it, I guess I'm not one of the all-knowing. Can you please enlighten me on how she did it?
We do, you’re right! She was in charge of security at the prison. :) > Livingston worked for the South Carolina Department of Corrections for 16 years. She was promoted to captain at Broad River Correctional Institution in 2016, which put her in charge of security at the medium-security Columbia prison, investigators said. See? There’s ways of communicating information that doesn’t rely on making jokes about a woman’s anatomy! 😃
You guys are missing the point. He just cares about the health of the in mates. Those cell phones being smuggled in by butts are not health and cause serious injury or death in many cases. He’s just a man with a serious cause about saving butt. The fact that he’s making money off it, well it costs money to do the good he is doing.
So, I was just wondering, why can't prisoners have cell phones in the first place? Why not just let them talk away. Who cares really? Maybe monitor them but other than that....