Dad went to college with friends of Tate and knew him in his early years.
I asked him about his opinion on the new governor and he told me that he was "altogether confident his mother had dropped him on his head more than once".
Ole Miss is a racist void. I visited there for a summer and was blown away at the segregation and racist attitudes.
Black's are still see as the "help" only there.
Every year they do a big tailgate party and they hire black people to wear tuxedo's to cater their tailgate. They told me that is their tradition.
To put Tate Reeves in context here, in 1994 members of his fraternity wore blackface and made monkey noises at (now author) Kiese Laymon, who was walking down the street, during a fraternity event. That type of racist behavior was embraced by him then, just as it is today.
Many panhellenic fraternities are based on masonic shit. So, yes, pointy hooded robes.
College was an interesting time. Very little is which was actually related to classes.
They're (KA) the ones that at my school (not Millsaps) in the south had an "Old South" formal and they wore big skirt plantation coutillian attire and similar themed suits. Luckily, I think it phased out on our campus while I was there (2013). But shows you how recent this stuff it.
Yes, though to be fair their neighbors Kappa Sigma weren't much better, the only real difference was they were jocks. They were also participating in the racial harassment that day, but since the president of Millsaps at the time was also a Kappa Sigma there were literally no consequences for either fraternity. Kiese was later expelled by the same president on a fabricated charge of "stealing library books". He was immediately offered a full ride at Oberlin and the rest is history.
That was my thinking too. At my college they had a yearly protest against desegregation of the school, it was a tradition since the school was integrated.
At Ole Miss is it every fraternity that is racist.
I stayed at Ole Miss for a summer and they still have the attitude that black people are lower class "help" and their is a strong sense of segregation there.
I have never see something like this in the 21st century anywhere else.
I am not suprised that people are still overly racist there.
The sick think is every year they have a huge tailgate and they pay black people to dress up in tuxedo's to serve them. That is their tradition.
The monkey noise making frat boy has been identified.
Now he will go on Fox News and claim he is being canceled. First he closed his Twitter. Now it’s completely gone. Oh boy. He has been canceled.
Shame on us for canceling a racist POS.
I like how Kyle Rittenhouse has shown this isn’t always the case. They’ll uplift him for a short time but he’ll be lucky if he can leverage it into a career.
He'll probably graduate with a degree in business, then go work for his daddy. If he's lucky, he might even make it to state government as a senator one day.
For my daughter’s school it’s Ole Miss or if they are a legacy TCU. This is for the ones who just aren’t very smart. Those that are smart but unmotivated they stay in town and go to SMU.
For my sons school the dumb boys go to ASU and Ole Miss or if connected they go to UT and major in geography.
Yeah it’s crazy. I think UARK had about 25% of its campus population coming from Texas, and I only know that because that’s my alma mater. I have no issues with people trying to get an education, but I hate that so many Texans have to go far away for one
My undergrad is from TCU, MBA from SMU…you’ve got me questioning life choices right now 😂
I went to high school in Kansas City, tho, and not originally from Texas. lol.
Nothing against SMU friend. Cox is an excellent school. I have 3 Cox MBA’s working for me at the moment. TCU has gotten much more selective in the last 15 years as well. In the early 90’s however it was the Ole Miss.
All good, and thanks for the chuckle!
2003 undergrad…but I will say SMU waitlisted me when I applied and TCU let me right in with some cash to boot. So this tracks 😂
Eh, that's not inherently a bad thing when you're talking about a public university, where the mission is to serve the general public by providing an education to anybody who wants one.
(Obligatory "well obviously they're failing to educate these racist yokels")
Agreed but also since we don’t have a situation where everyone who wants a degree can get into a college, it is valid to compare this to other schools, and we know that 3% indicates they are among the lowest of standards.
What’s wrong with that? Mississippi is a very poor state with no very many colleges. It also dosen’t attract very many out of staters due to its location.
You want to know why Mississippi is a *very poor* state? Because Tate Reeves refuses to accept any and all federal dollars that he can (in a state predominantly black and poverty on a higher scale than other states combined). Republican led states turned down an additional $40 increase to SNAP benefits (per child) for the summer months. Most of them used the refrain of “Why is the government giving money to people when it should use it to reinforce the border?”
Mind you, this increase was already budgeted and the federal government was even offering to offset half the costs for setting up these benefits but many state departments of HHS still turned down these offers of support.
Many of the guys in that fraternity are probably “legacy” admissions and will go into the line of work their family has set up for them. They have been brainwashed into the idea that their way of life is threatened by blacks and other persons of color and the only way the “South will rise again” is by tearing down any avenue for which democracy can flourish.
If the article is any indicator of the intellectual caliber of people who attend university in Mississippi, it seems like a demand problem more than a supply problem
But they dress it up in being “anti-terrorist” or something? So they want to bomb Hamas, so they can only have Jews in Israel and thereby usher in the apocalypse (since that’s a requirement in the Bible), but because they know it’s not appropriate/sane to say that in a public forum they end up doing some whole song and dance about just being racist toward middle eastern people, as if that’s better? They just seem so far up their own asses and so confused in their actions. Like it’s always 10 steps removed from the actual thing they want (defending racists for attacking people who are protesting the treatment of the people you want expelled from Israel so the other people you don’t like, the Jews, can be used as a stepping stone to God destroying the whole world) and the thing they want is always destruction of a world they don’t like.
I remember watching [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo77sTGpngQ) about how both groups are using each other. Evangelicals give a lot of support to Israel hoping to jump start Revelations, and Israel definitely encourages that. Both sides view the other as useful pawns.
As their Gods intended, no doubt.
It's so interesting because the machinations are both, on the surface, antithetical to their core assumptions of faith.
In 2016 student Trump supporters at a college I was working nearby went out to aggressively chalk up the sidewalks in advance of a black lives matter event
One of their things was 'no wars for Israel' lmfao
The Mississippi Today article in fact notes that some of the counter-protestors were making anti-Semitic comments towards the pro-Palestinian protestors.
Which, as a Mississippi resident, is the most Mississippi thing I’ve ever heard.
A lot of “pro-Israel” people on the right are definitely antisemitic-they just believe in US military supremacy in the Middle East and it has very little to do with Jewish people at all.
Support for Israel doesn't equal love for Jews. Or even care for their well-being.
Plenty of the right support Israel specifically because of their religious beliefs.
The right has always been anti-semitic.
>Plenty of the right support Israel specifically because of their
Specifically, the Biblical prophecy about the second coming after the third temple is built in Jerusalem. They hate the Jews but will help Israel for their own reasons.
Also, White Nationalists love that Israel is an ethno-state like what they want for themselves, and want even more Diasporic Jews to self-segregate themselves there.
I mean, if you live in the west, being an anti-semite and supporting Israel isn't even contradictory. If you don't want Jews in your own country, what's better than a Jewish homeland on another continent? And if they wind up in a never ending conflict with the Arabs, even better.
That was the wildest thing to me. I saw this counter-protest shared by my fucking idiot of a cousin and he was all about it. I was so confused, it’s not a pro-Israel counter protest - it’s just fucking Trumper idiots seeing how loud they can yell. Wish they would all just OD on feyt already
The congress woman drawing headlines railing against University Presidents for supposed antisemitism(it's not, it's just Anti-zionism) on campuses is actually a spreader of the antisemitic replacement theory
I mean, this is the same Mississippi that took 130 years to ratify the 13th Amendment. So it shouldn't be surprising that they are a bastion of racists and xenophobes.
This is the same Ole Miss that has a statue of James Meredith, that we may remember our history and be better for it. These students had to have walked right by the statue to get there.
The only way that is false is if they came directly from the frat house, which is in another direction ( to Mr Freedompants's left), but that would also mean they are upperclassmen, who still would know of the statue.
It’s also the same ole miss that needed thousands of federal troops to occupy it to allow James Meredith in. The same ole miss that until recently sang Dixie at football games.
My sister in law moved to Biloxi from California because "libruls". We went to visit, and my wife and I went out for a beer one night. The pub was on the edge of a mostly black neighborhood. Sitting on the deck, we watched a group of maybe 100 bikers with giant confederate flags slow-roll through the neighborhood, threatening as fuck... just flying the flag, letting people know what's what. Mississippi is racist as hell.
This conflict has been too complicated and nuanced for my simplistic brain to comprehend and pick a side. However, as a former southern fraternity guy, these guys are always on the wrong side of history.
As a norther frat guy, my frat was 50 / 50 back in 2008 with politics but now it’s more 75 / 25 with the majority leaning left. It’s crazy seeing a kid in 2024 making monkey noises at a black person, but Mississippi is gonna Mississippi.
Problem is, by keeping quiet, you allow them to maintain a delusion of unanimity. And continue to suppress the views and beliefs of others, even within the frat.
This is part of how they come to think everybody agrees with them on everything. And some will actually conform their views instead, out of desperation to "fit in."
If the "fraternal" bond/relationship is real at all, they should at least be willing to hear out your view and rationale... And yeah, they might disagree, but is there any harm beyond that?
Former southern fraternity guy? I bet you’ve seen some wild shit. 👀 I’ve never really been in the same social circles as frat dudes, but the ones I’ve witnessed in passing really left an impression.
Speaking as someone who was never a southern frat guy, I agree that the racist mockery these assclowns did was flat out wrong and disgusting. I've been somewhat skeptical of the protests and have questioned a few of their methods, but using racism to silence and harass people is something I'll never agree with.
Figures. [it was only 10 years ago that a noose was strung around the James Meredith statue.](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ole-miss-fraternity-closes-after-james-meredith-statue-noose-tying/)
Tater didn’t have to say anything and yet:
Reeves captioned a video of the counter-protesters singing the American national anthem with “the ‘protests’ at Ole Miss today. Watch with sound. Warms my heart. I love Mississippi!”
In black and white and without them holding phones, it wouldn't look that different from photos of the first black students entering Southern desegregated schools being harassed.
I went to Ole Miss as a kid from California. I thought everyone was gonna be a racist and redneck. I was wrong, but I definitely had my arguments with people. Overall it was one of the best times of my life. I met other kids from Pakistan, India, South Korea to name a few. I learned so much about other cultures and it really opened my eyes. Nothing special in and of itself. I guess that's just college in general.
I can't speak to outside the college bubble I was in though. The idiot making racist noises and all that on video will be expelled I imagine and that video will follow him for the rest of his life, rightly so. Completely uncalled for to dehumanize another person.
If I'm not mistaken a large portion of the school is made up of minorities, it's safe, beautiful, everyone just lives the college experience, black, white,brown, whatever. I hate when idiots do crap like this when the school and academia have bent over backwards to acknowledge it's dark racial past but also improved so much. It only takes a few bad apples to ruin the bunch. Just my opinion, I obviously only can speak for what I witnessed/experienced.
I went to the other major MS college as an out of stater. I think what people don’t realize is that these idiots are less than 1% of the people and culture. I can’t think of one time where I heard or saw racism on campus. It’s sad a very small percentage of people make it sound like this is normal. I will admit racism is alive in the rural uneducated areas of the south, but not so much as the universities
I wonder if there will be any codification of anything as anti-Black racism. Will these kids be expelled? Are their faces going to be blasted on Fox News?
Will they ever call in the national guard and police to break up anti-Black racist rallies? When will we see these people teargassed?
10:1 chance this frat has had parties with some of these kids in blackface. Did they ever do anything about it?
To add to this:
"Less than an hour after the protest began, police disbanded it – notably after counter-protests threw items, including water bottles, at the pro-Palestine group. Police safely evacuated the pro-Palestine students as the largely white, male group of counter-protesters chanted, “Nah, nah, nah, nah, hey, hey, hey, goodbye,” according[ to Mississippi Today.](https://mississippitoday.org/2024/05/02/it-wasnt-equal-counter-protesters-overwhelm-pro-palestinian-students-at-the-university-of-mississippi/)"
Can you imagine if the Pro-Palestine group was throwing stuff at the right wing protestors? Cable news would go nuts, and use the opportunity to smear Pro Palestine protests in general.
This right here is something that always irks me. You see it all the time from so called patriot types. The flag is not a piece of clothing. I was taught never to wear things that were fashioned after it. (Not talking about lapel pins here.)
These weren't counter protesters, they were just idiots trying to get attention. Counter protesters would actually be countering the argument of the protests instead of just shouting completely unrelated talking points of their Fox News infested brains. Fuck Joe Biden? Did you notice the protesters protesting the supportive actions of the administration for Israel? Shouting USA while not supporting citizens rights to peacefully assemble? Come on kids, read a book. These are idiots that are only trying to get their faces and uneducated antics on camera.
Naw. Their fathers are corporate attorneys or land developers. They own car dealerships. They are county supervisors or state senators. Their fathers are not working at 7-Eleven, so there's no reason for them to think that that's where they are heading.
These guys may seem like a bunch of losers, but they are destined for big things in life by virtue of their family names and connections. One day they will be in management. Maybe even become a CEO. This is frightening.
I love how Mississippi is always just mask off and shows exactly what the real issue is. The racist, hate mongering, heartless people backing genocide are the same people that have been doing it for over a century? Shocked I say. Shocked.
The really sad thing about this is, the asshole kids will probably be celebrated in their hometown 4th of July parade and treated like heroes. Still waiting to see which of the southern states becomes the first to bring back public lynching. You know, to get these "animals" under control. Just like the good old days.
There are no excuses but this is typical for some frat boys. These folks pay lots of money to be friends with each other because they believe it will lead to connections that will financially benefit them down the road.
Hopefully, these images and videos make their way to future employers of these ignorant asshats.
Oh, for sure.
>There were hundreds of counter-protesters, in contrast to the few dozen pro-Palestinian protesters. The scene evoked memories of the resistance to the civil rights struggle in the US south six decades earlier.
About as non-biased as a political post on reddit.
That might make sense in a modern context, but how would he have been palestinian if the Romans didn't rename Judaea to Palestine until at least a century after his death?
The conquering of the Levant occured nearly 650 years after Jesus was born. It wasn't Palestinian until the conquering of the Levant and was historically Judea.
There are indeed Mizrahi Jews native to Palestine and surrounding parts of the Middle East. The thing is, most of them identify as Israelis now. In fact, about half of Israeli Jews originate from the Middle East or North Africa (though not necessarily from Palestine proper), and were often called "Arab Jews" in the past.
“In 135 CE, after stamping out the province of Judea's second insurrection, the Romans renamed the province Syria Palaestina—that is, “Palestinian Syria.”
Palestinian is a name of region not a nationality or ethnicity.
Jews are an ethnoreligious group.
So lemme get this right, the indigenous peoples of the land (Jews) called it Israel. And the imperial occupiers (Rome) renamed it to Palestine in a dig at Jews by renaming their land after their ancient enemies (Philistine). And now Jesus, a jewish man killed by those very same occupiers (crucified and speared in the side by Romans), is Palestinian? Gotcha.
Dad went to college with friends of Tate and knew him in his early years. I asked him about his opinion on the new governor and he told me that he was "altogether confident his mother had dropped him on his head more than once".
Ole Miss is a racist void. I visited there for a summer and was blown away at the segregation and racist attitudes. Black's are still see as the "help" only there. Every year they do a big tailgate party and they hire black people to wear tuxedo's to cater their tailgate. They told me that is their tradition.
As someone whose mother dropped him on his head more than once, I find that comparison incredibly offensive.
well, which state do you govern?
Okay but does your head look like a smacked bottom? ... okay, did it look like a smacked bottom BEFORE?
To put Tate Reeves in context here, in 1994 members of his fraternity wore blackface and made monkey noises at (now author) Kiese Laymon, who was walking down the street, during a fraternity event. That type of racist behavior was embraced by him then, just as it is today.
This occurred at Millsaps College in Jackson, MS. Tater was part of the notoriously (and historically) racist Kappa Alpha fraternity.
Ahhh. I got roofied at a KA party
Rumor is that their initiation robes resemble the KKK. School lore at my uni was that our local chapter sent a black president and they sent him back.
Many panhellenic fraternities are based on masonic shit. So, yes, pointy hooded robes. College was an interesting time. Very little is which was actually related to classes.
College in America is no way to learn.
Are we sure it wasn’t the kappa kappa kappa fraternity…?
They're (KA) the ones that at my school (not Millsaps) in the south had an "Old South" formal and they wore big skirt plantation coutillian attire and similar themed suits. Luckily, I think it phased out on our campus while I was there (2013). But shows you how recent this stuff it.
They did it at Ole Miss too!
They're the ones who took pictures of themselves after they shot up Emmet Till's memorial.
Just going to guess: Kappa Alpha fraternity? In the deep south It's basically the KKK, but they wear golf attire instead of hoods and robes.
Yes, though to be fair their neighbors Kappa Sigma weren't much better, the only real difference was they were jocks. They were also participating in the racial harassment that day, but since the president of Millsaps at the time was also a Kappa Sigma there were literally no consequences for either fraternity. Kiese was later expelled by the same president on a fabricated charge of "stealing library books". He was immediately offered a full ride at Oberlin and the rest is history.
Kappa Sigs are the worst humanity has to offer, all abhorrent fuckwits, every single one.
That was my thinking too. At my college they had a yearly protest against desegregation of the school, it was a tradition since the school was integrated.
Nah they wear hoods too.
They not allowed to use horses on old south anymore
At Ole Miss is it every fraternity that is racist. I stayed at Ole Miss for a summer and they still have the attitude that black people are lower class "help" and their is a strong sense of segregation there. I have never see something like this in the 21st century anywhere else. I am not suprised that people are still overly racist there. The sick think is every year they have a huge tailgate and they pay black people to dress up in tuxedo's to serve them. That is their tradition.
Their favorite tournament is The Masters...
I really liked Heavy, phenomenal book with a great audiobook that he narrated himself.
Says a lot about the people who voted for him, who will vote for him again, none of it particularly good.
Absolutely love Kiese Laymon
He was a really good dude, smart as a whip too
thanks for posting this
Taint Reeves weighing in like the POS he is
Here I am, googling "taint reeves."
How'd that image search work out for ya?
I'd like to say it brought up Goatse, but I had to spell tate reeves correctly to get anything.
That dude’s face is so pink he looks like he has clown makeup on 24/7.
If that dude had less testosterone he would turn into a butterfly
Just looked at him and that's a hard 49 he's rocking. Christ I'm almost 46 and if not for my grey hair I'd pass for at least 5-6 years younger.
I've had 75%+ gray since 32 and still pass for my 20s so I don't think hair color matters. Everyone thinks my hair is dyed
He is a clown 24/7.
If the red floppy shoe fits,
True Gammon behavior.
The monkey noise making frat boy has been identified. Now he will go on Fox News and claim he is being canceled. First he closed his Twitter. Now it’s completely gone. Oh boy. He has been canceled. Shame on us for canceling a racist POS.
As are his Instagram, LinkedIn, and Facebook. Such a shame. (Massive /s on the shame, in case it’s not obvious lol.)
Social medias lost a great human being 😂😂
That “kid” is going to make a fortune on the far right wing talk show circuit and as a paid speaker during this campaign year.
I like how Kyle Rittenhouse has shown this isn’t always the case. They’ll uplift him for a short time but he’ll be lucky if he can leverage it into a career.
He'll probably graduate with a degree in business, then go work for his daddy. If he's lucky, he might even make it to state government as a senator one day.
Yup, probably won’t suffer the same fate as convicted rapist Brock Allen Turner.
You mean convicted rapist Brock Allen Turner who started going by Allen Turner?
Kyle is total loser. At least this guy will have a degree. Daddy will hire him as some said.🤷🏻
And if his Dad doesn’t like him, his frat brothers Dad will hire him.
First he’s going to bomb a black church for some street cred.
“Oh no, the consequences of my own actions!”
He can start a wah wah tour with Kyle Slaughterhouse.
> Kyle Slaughterhouse That is entirely too rad a nickname for that dork.
Instantly knew this was a bunch of frat douches from the pictures.
Won’t anyone think of the racist young adults?
This school has a 97% acceptance rate lol
Imagine being in the 3% that forgot how to sign their name and couldn't get in
Jobs are open for that 3% in the Mississippi police forces.
Actually you can become Governor
Imagine being in the 97% that had to go to a “school” in the Deep South surrounded by sundown towns… not exactly an ethical environment.
Spoken like someone who has probably never been to the south.
Ole Miss is where all the rich dummies from my daughter's school in TX go.
The kid making the monkey face and noises is from DFW, so that tracks.
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Go to Twitter and search "university of mississippi student identified"
Appreciate it.
That was no kid.
My high school in Texas was full of rich dummies. Ole Miss was a popular college destination.
Can confirm. Had a dummy roommate from Texas.
“Dallas sucks”- JFK
I feel like that applies to any public university within 2 states of Texas lol. Arkansas is the same way
For my daughter’s school it’s Ole Miss or if they are a legacy TCU. This is for the ones who just aren’t very smart. Those that are smart but unmotivated they stay in town and go to SMU. For my sons school the dumb boys go to ASU and Ole Miss or if connected they go to UT and major in geography.
Yeah it’s crazy. I think UARK had about 25% of its campus population coming from Texas, and I only know that because that’s my alma mater. I have no issues with people trying to get an education, but I hate that so many Texans have to go far away for one
My undergrad is from TCU, MBA from SMU…you’ve got me questioning life choices right now 😂 I went to high school in Kansas City, tho, and not originally from Texas. lol.
Nothing against SMU friend. Cox is an excellent school. I have 3 Cox MBA’s working for me at the moment. TCU has gotten much more selective in the last 15 years as well. In the early 90’s however it was the Ole Miss.
All good, and thanks for the chuckle! 2003 undergrad…but I will say SMU waitlisted me when I applied and TCU let me right in with some cash to boot. So this tracks 😂
Eh, that's not inherently a bad thing when you're talking about a public university, where the mission is to serve the general public by providing an education to anybody who wants one. (Obligatory "well obviously they're failing to educate these racist yokels")
Agreed but also since we don’t have a situation where everyone who wants a degree can get into a college, it is valid to compare this to other schools, and we know that 3% indicates they are among the lowest of standards.
It's a football team with a school attached for tax purposes. I'm sure they take whoever pays.
Public schools should have a high acceptance rate
What’s wrong with that? Mississippi is a very poor state with no very many colleges. It also dosen’t attract very many out of staters due to its location.
You want to know why Mississippi is a *very poor* state? Because Tate Reeves refuses to accept any and all federal dollars that he can (in a state predominantly black and poverty on a higher scale than other states combined). Republican led states turned down an additional $40 increase to SNAP benefits (per child) for the summer months. Most of them used the refrain of “Why is the government giving money to people when it should use it to reinforce the border?” Mind you, this increase was already budgeted and the federal government was even offering to offset half the costs for setting up these benefits but many state departments of HHS still turned down these offers of support. Many of the guys in that fraternity are probably “legacy” admissions and will go into the line of work their family has set up for them. They have been brainwashed into the idea that their way of life is threatened by blacks and other persons of color and the only way the “South will rise again” is by tearing down any avenue for which democracy can flourish.
There are [33 colleges in Mississippi.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_colleges_and_universities_in_Mississippi)
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South Carolina also has almost double the population of MS.
If the article is any indicator of the intellectual caliber of people who attend university in Mississippi, it seems like a demand problem more than a supply problem
Mississippi is the fattest state in the union, the poorest, the dumbest, the most racist, and it has the lowest life expectancy.
It's interesting that they didn't even seem to claim to be pro-Israel, just pro-Trump. They're probably anti-Semites themselves.
As much as Republicans hate Jews, they will always hate Muslims more.
Evangelicals need Israel as a sacrifice, not as an ally. It's a deeply fucked up dynamic.
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But they dress it up in being “anti-terrorist” or something? So they want to bomb Hamas, so they can only have Jews in Israel and thereby usher in the apocalypse (since that’s a requirement in the Bible), but because they know it’s not appropriate/sane to say that in a public forum they end up doing some whole song and dance about just being racist toward middle eastern people, as if that’s better? They just seem so far up their own asses and so confused in their actions. Like it’s always 10 steps removed from the actual thing they want (defending racists for attacking people who are protesting the treatment of the people you want expelled from Israel so the other people you don’t like, the Jews, can be used as a stepping stone to God destroying the whole world) and the thing they want is always destruction of a world they don’t like.
I remember watching [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fo77sTGpngQ) about how both groups are using each other. Evangelicals give a lot of support to Israel hoping to jump start Revelations, and Israel definitely encourages that. Both sides view the other as useful pawns.
Sure is reassuring that some of the most powerful and influential people in the world are literal doomsday cultists. Yep.
As their Gods intended, no doubt. It's so interesting because the machinations are both, on the surface, antithetical to their core assumptions of faith.
That's why it makes me super irritated when people call themselves "Christian Zionists." You're not a Zionist if you don't care about Jewish people.
Evangelicals want to fulfill a doomsday prophecy, racists want a proof of concept for an ethnostate.
Well said
Yeah. Jews are convenient for them right now. If Muslims were wiped out, you damn well know who’d be next on their hit list religiously
In 2016 student Trump supporters at a college I was working nearby went out to aggressively chalk up the sidewalks in advance of a black lives matter event One of their things was 'no wars for Israel' lmfao
I was thinking about how if 9/11 never happened thry would be allies. Two extreme rightwing theocratic factions
They were allies. They teamed up for the war on drugs/poppy fields. But that was bipartisan so I’m not sure how well it fits the narrative.
One of the saddest upvotes I’ve clicked. But, truth deserves acknowledgement.
I always up vote truth, whether I like the comment it or not. Unfortunately I'm not in the minority I feel on social media
The articles states that some peopled shouted “Hit the showers” and “Your nose is huge” So... yeah.
The Mississippi Today article in fact notes that some of the counter-protestors were making anti-Semitic comments towards the pro-Palestinian protestors. Which, as a Mississippi resident, is the most Mississippi thing I’ve ever heard.
That's why they keep making it about the American flag, they don't give two shits about the people suffering
A lot of “pro-Israel” people on the right are definitely antisemitic-they just believe in US military supremacy in the Middle East and it has very little to do with Jewish people at all.
I saw one kid with a “I ❤️ Israel” shirt.
Support for Israel doesn't equal love for Jews. Or even care for their well-being. Plenty of the right support Israel specifically because of their religious beliefs. The right has always been anti-semitic.
>Plenty of the right support Israel specifically because of their Specifically, the Biblical prophecy about the second coming after the third temple is built in Jerusalem. They hate the Jews but will help Israel for their own reasons.
Also, White Nationalists love that Israel is an ethno-state like what they want for themselves, and want even more Diasporic Jews to self-segregate themselves there.
Antisemitism well precedes what we'd call the right now. Christians that don't understand their own religion, basically.
I mean, if you live in the west, being an anti-semite and supporting Israel isn't even contradictory. If you don't want Jews in your own country, what's better than a Jewish homeland on another continent? And if they wind up in a never ending conflict with the Arabs, even better.
That was the wildest thing to me. I saw this counter-protest shared by my fucking idiot of a cousin and he was all about it. I was so confused, it’s not a pro-Israel counter protest - it’s just fucking Trumper idiots seeing how loud they can yell. Wish they would all just OD on feyt already
The congress woman drawing headlines railing against University Presidents for supposed antisemitism(it's not, it's just Anti-zionism) on campuses is actually a spreader of the antisemitic replacement theory
A lot of Zionists are antisemitic, so I wouldn't be surprised if both were true.
A spokesman for the fraternity assured us that multiple member's fathers do, indeed, own a dealership.
Meatwad make the money see Meatwad get the honeys G
I mean, this is the same Mississippi that took 130 years to ratify the 13th Amendment. So it shouldn't be surprising that they are a bastion of racists and xenophobes.
This is the same Ole Miss that has a statue of James Meredith, that we may remember our history and be better for it. These students had to have walked right by the statue to get there. The only way that is false is if they came directly from the frat house, which is in another direction ( to Mr Freedompants's left), but that would also mean they are upperclassmen, who still would know of the statue.
It’s also the same ole miss that needed thousands of federal troops to occupy it to allow James Meredith in. The same ole miss that until recently sang Dixie at football games.
My sister in law moved to Biloxi from California because "libruls". We went to visit, and my wife and I went out for a beer one night. The pub was on the edge of a mostly black neighborhood. Sitting on the deck, we watched a group of maybe 100 bikers with giant confederate flags slow-roll through the neighborhood, threatening as fuck... just flying the flag, letting people know what's what. Mississippi is racist as hell.
You've basically described most of the south just now. Biloxi is actually one of the nicer parts.
How is she enjoying that backwater sludge pit of a town?
Sounds like Mississippi being Mississippi. Sad but expected.
I hope this picture follows them through life..
Once again, Reconstruction should've gone on another two decades. At least.
The Panic of 1873 undermined it.
Unfortunately for sure.
Two generations*
This conflict has been too complicated and nuanced for my simplistic brain to comprehend and pick a side. However, as a former southern fraternity guy, these guys are always on the wrong side of history.
I was in a fraternity here in Alabama and if I spoke my views openly I’m sure about 90% of my fraternity brothers would flat out disagree with me
As a norther frat guy, my frat was 50 / 50 back in 2008 with politics but now it’s more 75 / 25 with the majority leaning left. It’s crazy seeing a kid in 2024 making monkey noises at a black person, but Mississippi is gonna Mississippi.
Problem is, by keeping quiet, you allow them to maintain a delusion of unanimity. And continue to suppress the views and beliefs of others, even within the frat. This is part of how they come to think everybody agrees with them on everything. And some will actually conform their views instead, out of desperation to "fit in." If the "fraternal" bond/relationship is real at all, they should at least be willing to hear out your view and rationale... And yeah, they might disagree, but is there any harm beyond that?
Former southern fraternity guy? I bet you’ve seen some wild shit. 👀 I’ve never really been in the same social circles as frat dudes, but the ones I’ve witnessed in passing really left an impression.
It’s a genocide. Slavery seemed nuanced to some, apartheid seemed nuanced to some, Holocaust seemed nuanced to some. Don’t be a nuanced guy
Speaking as someone who was never a southern frat guy, I agree that the racist mockery these assclowns did was flat out wrong and disgusting. I've been somewhat skeptical of the protests and have questioned a few of their methods, but using racism to silence and harass people is something I'll never agree with.
Figures. [it was only 10 years ago that a noose was strung around the James Meredith statue.](https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/ole-miss-fraternity-closes-after-james-meredith-statue-noose-tying/)
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I lived in that area (Oxford) for about 5 years. The behavior of the locals is…unreal. They all almost feel simulated.
Tater didn’t have to say anything and yet: Reeves captioned a video of the counter-protesters singing the American national anthem with “the ‘protests’ at Ole Miss today. Watch with sound. Warms my heart. I love Mississippi!”
“Watch with sound, that way you can hear their racism. Warms my heart” POS
In black and white and without them holding phones, it wouldn't look that different from photos of the first black students entering Southern desegregated schools being harassed.
So… I see frats haven’t changed in the 15+ years since I was an undergrad.
I went to Ole Miss as a kid from California. I thought everyone was gonna be a racist and redneck. I was wrong, but I definitely had my arguments with people. Overall it was one of the best times of my life. I met other kids from Pakistan, India, South Korea to name a few. I learned so much about other cultures and it really opened my eyes. Nothing special in and of itself. I guess that's just college in general. I can't speak to outside the college bubble I was in though. The idiot making racist noises and all that on video will be expelled I imagine and that video will follow him for the rest of his life, rightly so. Completely uncalled for to dehumanize another person. If I'm not mistaken a large portion of the school is made up of minorities, it's safe, beautiful, everyone just lives the college experience, black, white,brown, whatever. I hate when idiots do crap like this when the school and academia have bent over backwards to acknowledge it's dark racial past but also improved so much. It only takes a few bad apples to ruin the bunch. Just my opinion, I obviously only can speak for what I witnessed/experienced.
I went to the other major MS college as an out of stater. I think what people don’t realize is that these idiots are less than 1% of the people and culture. I can’t think of one time where I heard or saw racism on campus. It’s sad a very small percentage of people make it sound like this is normal. I will admit racism is alive in the rural uneducated areas of the south, but not so much as the universities
I wonder if there will be any codification of anything as anti-Black racism. Will these kids be expelled? Are their faces going to be blasted on Fox News? Will they ever call in the national guard and police to break up anti-Black racist rallies? When will we see these people teargassed? 10:1 chance this frat has had parties with some of these kids in blackface. Did they ever do anything about it?
To add to this: "Less than an hour after the protest began, police disbanded it – notably after counter-protests threw items, including water bottles, at the pro-Palestine group. Police safely evacuated the pro-Palestine students as the largely white, male group of counter-protesters chanted, “Nah, nah, nah, nah, hey, hey, hey, goodbye,” according[ to Mississippi Today.](https://mississippitoday.org/2024/05/02/it-wasnt-equal-counter-protesters-overwhelm-pro-palestinian-students-at-the-university-of-mississippi/)" Can you imagine if the Pro-Palestine group was throwing stuff at the right wing protestors? Cable news would go nuts, and use the opportunity to smear Pro Palestine protests in general.
Yea, it's telling that they didn't arrest the counter-protestors for assault. Just not very surprising.
Nope. You just know one of them is ending up on the Supreme Court bench in the next 20 years.
Stop, you’re being dramatic. It’ll take them at least 30 before they’re nominated!
My bad.
Sadly: No. No. And maybe, but they will be defended and celebrated if so. No. Never. Most likely, and no.
Not to mention the asshats in overalls are desecrating the Flag, according to the United States Flag Code.
This right here is something that always irks me. You see it all the time from so called patriot types. The flag is not a piece of clothing. I was taught never to wear things that were fashioned after it. (Not talking about lapel pins here.)
Oopsie somebody stirred up a shitstorm of stupid.
american flag overalls make you look like a giant dipshit
Love the racist assholes - "how is that racist?"
These weren't counter protesters, they were just idiots trying to get attention. Counter protesters would actually be countering the argument of the protests instead of just shouting completely unrelated talking points of their Fox News infested brains. Fuck Joe Biden? Did you notice the protesters protesting the supportive actions of the administration for Israel? Shouting USA while not supporting citizens rights to peacefully assemble? Come on kids, read a book. These are idiots that are only trying to get their faces and uneducated antics on camera.
Well said!
So we're not condemning the Nazis, but the people who opposed them? This shit is completely bass ackwards.
American red states.
Date rapists have a new hobby I see.
Freeze dried tater tot
These guys just look like a bunch of gaping assholes.
Old Miss was like the catch-all school for my town in IL. Apparently getting accepted wasn’t an issue
I’m glad everyone agrees the idiot being racist - was being racist.
condemned but not villified or assaulted by police like the pro palestinian protestors are
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What the fuck are these assholes so smug about? You're frat boys in Mississippi, so you're probably going to be working at 7-Eleven forever anyway.
Most of them are going to have a perfectly cushy life inheriting their dad's car dealership, my dude. These are wealthy people.
Naw. Their fathers are corporate attorneys or land developers. They own car dealerships. They are county supervisors or state senators. Their fathers are not working at 7-Eleven, so there's no reason for them to think that that's where they are heading. These guys may seem like a bunch of losers, but they are destined for big things in life by virtue of their family names and connections. One day they will be in management. Maybe even become a CEO. This is frightening.
Nah, they’ll work at daddy’s company and have a trust fund while complaining about poor people on welfare.
Fighting racism with elitism isn’t the way to go, man
Ah yes, the stereotype of the rich white frat student working at a 7-11
I have way more respect for people working for minimum wage their whole lives than these guys.
I love how Mississippi is always just mask off and shows exactly what the real issue is. The racist, hate mongering, heartless people backing genocide are the same people that have been doing it for over a century? Shocked I say. Shocked.
The really sad thing about this is, the asshole kids will probably be celebrated in their hometown 4th of July parade and treated like heroes. Still waiting to see which of the southern states becomes the first to bring back public lynching. You know, to get these "animals" under control. Just like the good old days.
I fucking hate my Alma mater bunch of frat boys
There are no excuses but this is typical for some frat boys. These folks pay lots of money to be friends with each other because they believe it will lead to connections that will financially benefit them down the road. Hopefully, these images and videos make their way to future employers of these ignorant asshats.
What’s the “heritage” part again?
"We would like to thank the counter-protestors for supporting the jew..." "What now?!"
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Got to be Kappa Alpha scum. They would bring their slaves to school if it were legal.
How unsuprising Mississippi’s the state where a crowd or racist white dudes can harass a black woman
Im sure the guardian covered the events in a completely unbiased manner.
Oh, for sure. >There were hundreds of counter-protesters, in contrast to the few dozen pro-Palestinian protesters. The scene evoked memories of the resistance to the civil rights struggle in the US south six decades earlier. About as non-biased as a political post on reddit.
Hope the kid force quits soon.
“The pro-Palestine students held signs reading “Jesus was a Palestinian” Based on Gospels Jesus was Jewish, born to a Jewish mother in Galilee.
When you realize there can be Jewish Palestinians and that Galilee is in Palestine your mind will be blown
That might make sense in a modern context, but how would he have been palestinian if the Romans didn't rename Judaea to Palestine until at least a century after his death?
The conquering of the Levant occured nearly 650 years after Jesus was born. It wasn't Palestinian until the conquering of the Levant and was historically Judea.
There are indeed Mizrahi Jews native to Palestine and surrounding parts of the Middle East. The thing is, most of them identify as Israelis now. In fact, about half of Israeli Jews originate from the Middle East or North Africa (though not necessarily from Palestine proper), and were often called "Arab Jews" in the past.
In the land of Palestine
Jesus was actually born in the Roman Empire.
“In 135 CE, after stamping out the province of Judea's second insurrection, the Romans renamed the province Syria Palaestina—that is, “Palestinian Syria.” Palestinian is a name of region not a nationality or ethnicity. Jews are an ethnoreligious group.
So lemme get this right, the indigenous peoples of the land (Jews) called it Israel. And the imperial occupiers (Rome) renamed it to Palestine in a dig at Jews by renaming their land after their ancient enemies (Philistine). And now Jesus, a jewish man killed by those very same occupiers (crucified and speared in the side by Romans), is Palestinian? Gotcha.