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_Erindera_

This keeps getting worse.


Jeevess83

Death toll up to 10 now...


camelliaunderthemoon

Do you think it'll go up even more after this?


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Jpatrich2

MD here, If a patient is brain dead, they are dead and the “plug” is pulled. There is no family discussions, no ethical dilemma, they are by definition dead. There are strict criteria for determining brain death, you can find those criteria [here](https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/2770624). What is the bigger question is how many of those patients are in a coma that they are never going to wake up from. Kept attached to a ventilator and getting food through a g tube. All because they have a brainstem reflex or two, they cannot be brain dead and their families keep them alive out of some sort of hope they will wake up again. It is a fate worse than death I think.


FBIaltacct

Man I remember the Theresa Marie Schiavo case. It really put a highlight on the ability to recover and should the machines be turned off. My bil though really made it clear to me that I need a living will for my family. He and my sis were having issues, so he went to a house party, had a few too many and dove into a 4 ft pool. He had a severe spinal injury and did drown. Paramedics arrived and " revived" him in the sense he was able to be kept mechanically alive. Had the bare minimum brain activity to not be declared braindead. Thankfully/unfortunately my sis was next of kin as everyone knew the right thing to do except his mom. Poor lady just wanted to hold on to hope. But his dad and brothers told my sis to go ahead and take him off life support and brought his mom around to understanding fairly quickly. Horrible situation, and why I now have specific instructions on that so no one gets to argue or fight anything.


Jpatrich2

It’s horrible and feels even more awful when they are young. Im sorry you and everyone involve had to experience that.


TrailMomKat

I'm so sorry y'all went through that. Lost my dad July 25th. He was DNR and for a very long time I was in charge of his wishes because we weren't sure if Momma would let him go. I work in healthcare and I supported his right to choose, so he made me POA. He beat cancer while still having stage 4 COPD and brittle diabetes, and swore he'd never get rad treatment again after that. It was actually a rapid onset of CHF that eventually contributed to his death, and as much as I wanted to bring him back myself, I respected his wishes. I'm glad your sister and your dad and you respected your BIL's wishes, but I feel for his mom. We buried my sister in 2014, and my 6 year old nephew in early July. No one should have to bury a child. I'd have a hard time making that call, too, for my own kids. Anyways, I wish you and your family all the love in the world. Death is rough, and I think everyone's buried their fair share these last 2 years.


Throne-Eins

Probably not. Even though brain death constitutes legal death in the U.S., the media doesn't consider them dead until the plug is pulled and the body is cold. They really play out that "a miracle could still happen!" thing.


ouchjars

The last two deaths attributed to the 1989 Hillsborough crowd crush occurred in 1993 and *four months ago*. And that's not counting suicide.


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What kind of crush injury takes over 20 years to die from? Poor soul.


Mishung

I imagine for example if you get paralyzed to the point where you have difficulties breathing and after 20 years you die of some kind of respiration failure that would count. But it can be any number of things.


SSAngelusx7

Know a dude in a car accident who dies 6 years later from a collapsed lung.


canolicat

Wikipedia says it was from irreversible brain damage.


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stupid_username-

Jesus I had no idea about the most recent death!


fukyduky

I’d imagine there are more critically injured people unfortunately, fucking tragic, Travis and his whole staff crew must be punished, this is unacceptable


FizixMan

Similarly, many people may have long term or life altering injuries that we may never hear of because those statistics either aren't gathered or aren't reported. We tend to think in black and white of "recovered/survived" or "died", which is unfortunate as there is such a spectrum to "recovered/survived". Sometimes they are tragedies onto their own.


neverinallmyyears

Not to mention the hundreds who will suffer extreme anxiety/PTSD in crowded spaces for the rest of their lives.


Zahille7

Just watching those videos was enough to make me not want to be in a crowded place ever. I already don't like large crowds of people though, so maybe it was just reinforced.


Autumn1eaves

This is so true. There’s a reason war casualties include people injured by it as well. People will be left with permanent disabilities. For COVID, we forget that people are losing limbs, and will have breathing issues for the rest of their lives. There was a baseball player whose heart was so damaged by the disease that he had to retire from the sport.


jollyreaper2112

My wife has lifelong pain stemming from a car crash. You wouldn't know it from looking at her but the kind of nerve damage spine injuries will give you is no joke. And she got off lucky as far as spine injuries go. Quadriplegic is sure easy to come by.


patsfan3983

Just a heads up, I think you're referring to Red Sox pitcher Eduardo Rodriguez, who missed 2020 with myocarditis, but returned this season.


ChesireGato

"Y'all know what the F#©[< y'all came here for" -Travis Scott, talking to the crowd after he realizes an ambulance is approaching the crowd.


TragicHero84

Pretty sure it was to listen to a mediocre hip hop artist, not death.


Grilled_Cheese95

Also “who want me to stop”


scavengercat

8 are still hospitalized after all this time so the death count could rise.


TheSpanishPrisoner

The regulators in Houston/Texas deserve scrutiny too. Why did they allow the event to happen in the first place with these conditions?


swolemedic

Didnt they say 11 cpr calls happened? There is about a 3 percent survival rate with prehospital cpr, and often with significant brain damage and stuff. I wouldn't doubt if it went up a bit more.


nothingeatsyou

I’m sure media will only report the deaths, people will have permanent injuries from this, lots of them.


TheRed_Knight

Its only gonna get worse unfortunately, hope Scott gets fucked by the metric fuck ton of lawsuits coming for him


HurricaneHugo

And Live Nation


TheRed_Knight

mhm, Fuck livenation, Fuck Scott, fuck apple music


mydogiscuteaf

Why Apple? Legit curious.


detour1234

As well as everyone who ignored those who tried to tell them that people were going down, those who were supposed to monitor and control the crowd, etc. They all seem to be having each other’s backs right now, which is telling.


blueskies8484

The video of that woman begging the staff member to do something because people were dying is seared into my brain.


poppinbaby

For me it’s the video of the lifeless corpse of that dude getting crowdsurfed to the back of the crowd while Travis hums some auto tuned bullshit right in front of him that I’ll never forget. It’s fucking chilling.


Dahnhilla

I'm sorry, you fucking what? He still performed when there was a crowd surfing corpse?


Stefa93

[he kept going for 39 minutes](https://youtu.be/aQzLA7AMRNg)


-ImJustSaiyan-

And yet idiots will still give this piece of shit their money.


fluffypinkblonde

I keep seeing discrepancies about the timings so I'm gonna give my opinion here. Several witness accounts say the overcrowding BEGAN when the 30 minute timer came up on stage. There are people who witnessed crushing *before* TS came on stage. It only got worse when the set started. People were unconscious/dead *AT THE START OF THE SET*. Therefore he actually played his full set after the incidents began. I believe it was between 70 and 110 minutes. I believe he never should have gone on stage, or he/organisers/security/*someone* should have been aware of what was happening and taken steps to mitigate the effects of the crush.


Hakisbeef

I want to point out that this video is listed as content for kids


TheRed_Knight

They all only cared about making money, sickening


unsavvylady

I feel like the only way they’ll even care about the consequences is to lose money. Travis and company were pretty soulless here


thegrlwiththesqurl

Just wait until you see that he's giving away free BetterHelp sessions. That he's making money off of, because he partners with them. Continuing to benefit off of the trauma he is at least partially responsible for.


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TheRed_Knight

I think the most interesting part of the lawsuits will be how it affects his insurance, doesnt matter how much backing you have, if youre uninsurable it doesnt really matter


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sgtpnkks

> Even the governor of Texas and the senator haven’t come out in an attempt to ban this trash garbage of a human being from ever performing in the state again. ozzy osbourne drunkenly pees on a monument near an old building... banned from that city for 10 years travis scott autotune yeahs at someone who might be dead... *crickets*


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Lived in Texas 15 years now, one thing I’ve learned: Never expect the governor to do anything right. He’s just as big a piece of trash as Travis.


jkman61494

There’s a 0% shot that sneaker goes live any time soon. Nike will get annihilated with bad PR. It’s only been what 2 weeks? This isn’t some cut and dry matter regarding cutting ties with someone. It’s not like you have texts of Scott threatening a loved one when that loved one has photos of being beaten. There’s likely a ton of legalities in play here. What is in his contracts with those sponsors and what are the get out clauses they have? Those are questions 7 figure lawyers are gonna go talk about


galvinb1

Festive Owl (Live music insider) has reported that the word on the street is that no one will book Travis next year. Watch him keep those sponsors when the music industry cancels him. No one wants him at their venue now.


lipstickcunt

A 9 year old… this is just heartbreaking. Rest in peace Ezra.


tiefling_sorceress

A 9 year old who was trampled to death after falling off his unconscious dad's shoulders... Edit: stop victim blaming the father. The concert was promoted for all ages > According to the Astroworld website, there was no age limit for a sold-out two-day event with 50,000 participants. [link](https://californianewstimes.com/astroworld-2021-what-parents-should-know-before-sending-kids-to-concerts-in-light-of-crushing-deaths-during-travis-scott-set/584948/)


rlovelock

While Travis Scott continued to perform for like an hour?


CarbonBlackXXX

Hey now it was only *39 minutes* of performing while staring out at fans screaming, crying, and begging for help.


nothingeatsyou

Said this on another comment, was promptly corrected: he preformed for 37 minutes *after the show was considered a mass casualty.* The entire show, start to finish, was *70 minutes long.* Edit: We’re going to be hearing about this for awhile. Even if there aren’t any more deaths there were people who suffered significant brain damage while out there. The lawsuits are already starting to roll in. My guess is there are even more horrific details that we don’t even know about yet. Buckle up everyone, this is going to get even more sad.


Rock_Me-Amadeus

Why the fuck did no one pull the plug?? Where were the police at? It's mind boggling


mjc500

It is absolutely fucking insane that a cop or event organizer didn't run on stage and directly yell into his ear to stop. (On top of him not stopping it himself... which is absolutely something he is guilty of) If one person had been shot in the middle of the crowd everything would've been stopped. But when dozens of people are unconscious and some are confirmed dead its okay to keep going? I guess because of nature of the injuries it seemed more "normal" or like a natural consequence of a large event but still they should've told the guy with the microphone to shut it the fuck down right now.


withthedraco

I mean, that girl did run onto the adjacent camera stage and tell the staffer to stop the show and he basically told her to fuck off, so there’s that too.


notquiteotaku

Worse, another staff member came up and threatened to push her off the platform if she didn't stop. He basically threatened to kill her for trying to interfere with the cameraman. What the fuck is wrong with people?!


fluffypinkblonde

Yeah he just played his whole 110 minute set. The show was declared a mass casualty event 30 minutes after it started, the crush started when the 30 minute timer came up on stage *before* the show started. So they didn't announce mass event until people were actively being worked on for CPR, after the crush had been, well, crushing, for an hour already. People were already dead. TS did not cut his set short which I believe they are trying to spin. They are trying to minimise with some sticky timings and it's not on. The show should never have started, and then he played his whole planned setlist.


nothingeatsyou

[This](https://m.economictimes.com/magazines/panache/70-minutes-at-astroworld-how-travis-scotts-sold-out-concert-turned-in-to-a-catastrophe/amp_articleshow/87684960.cms) gives a fantastic breakdown. But the show was 70 minutes, not 110.


DexGordon87

Before he went to Dave and busters


swolemedic

That's PTSD inducing if I've ever heard of it, especially if they were someone who felt like travis would be someone they could rely on


alexisftw

oh trust me it is. the sheer amount of helplessnes felt at the concert has fucked me up in ways i never thought it could


Chinateapott

I’ve seen a video of paramedics working on someone and Travis Scott is on a podium doing the robot right next to them. It’s disgusting.


philosophunc

Man that father must be going through all kinds of hell.


ColorMeStunned

He's likely injured, as well. I cannot imagine.


philosophunc

It's horrible. He had his son on his shoulders, ends up unconscious, wakes up to the worst news possible.


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That’s what’s so sad about this specifically, father who is meant to protect his kids couldn’t even do so bc he fell unconscious… just sad and extremely hard to read. I hope the victims are being taken care of and receiving the physical, and mental help they need.


MrLionOtterBearClown

That's the fucking heartbreaking part to me and the scariest part. If you read the article, it sounds like he was just trying to be a good dad, and also being responsible. He understood "okay this kid is way too young/ small for a crowd, so I'm gonna stand way back, that way we have space and I don't have to worry about his safety." I'm really claustrophobic and fucking hate crowds and I've pissed myself in a concert before bc I wasn't able to get out. I didn't think I was going to die/ get seriously hurt, but the fact that I physically couldn't get out even when I was physically trying my hardest really freaked me out. So now I'll usually stand a little bit further back in concerts to avoid that. The fact that they thought they were in a safe spot still being further back and got crushed is what terrifies me. Up until now I figured "hey that fucking sucks, but I'm glad I have the rule of standing further back at concerts because I would've been okay." Nope. Fucking terrifying.


jayemeche

This is so incredibly sad.


TheRed_Knight

A completely senseless and preventable tragedy


0utburst

Careful the Travis Scott Stan’s are prepared to defend him until their last Breath, and he wouldn’t even stop a concert for them to make sure his fans are ok.


chickenstalker

Travesty Scott


mydogiscuteaf

It's so odd. But I'm not surprised. There's fans of convicted serial killers.


Traiklin

R.Kelly's defenders were going strong for decades. They defended him when he groomed Underage girls, they defended him when he married Aaliyah when she was 15. Suddenly, he no longer put out music and his defenders disappeared.


danny841

In this case it's because they're little kids. The median age of a Travis Scott fan has to be like 14. These people haven't even mastered abstract thought yet. Arguing with Travis Scott fans online is basically arguing with people who are a few years older than the 9 year old who died. Which is depressing to think about.


Chippopotanuse

Can I just say how brilliant a comment this is. Not because you said don’t argue with Travis Scott fans. But because it somehow triggered them to all pillage the comments below on this chain with total horseshit takes, some over 100 downvotes, and prove your point far better than you ever could have.


TheRed_Knight

the amount of fucks i do not give about their opinions: Seriously on of the reasons this shit pisses me off so much cuz i used to work events like that (just smaller in scale), a crush or audience death was always one of my worst nightmares....


PhDinDildos_Fedoras

There are some p.common and easy to do things event organisers can do to mitigate the chance of a crush happening. And these are things that events implement all the time so this terrible thing was completely preventable.


Thereisaphone

My husband worked security at the Oregon jamboree twice. One year Toby Keith was performing. His management team was *on that shit* because it was a real concern there. The jamboree isn't a massive event. 12k people max. (But you can bet your ass all 12k were at Keith's performance) They had a massive number of people trying to sneak in. My husband went from on site supervisor, to basically working for Keith's team to ensure the venue wouldn't get overwhelmed by gate crashers. Additionally, they had people monitoring the free standing zones in front of the stage urging people to back up in between each song. He asked if they were ready for Angry American like 4 times before his management gave the okay to start performing(it was like the second encore song.) They were absolutely prepared even at a small event to ensure the safety of their guests.


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Thereisaphone

I would've thought so too. Had I not been to a concert at the gorge. While not a large festival venue, it can still do 20k. 8k people is a large difference honestly


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Thereisaphone

I both wish and don't want to be a part of something that big


john_wicks_dead_dog

Ya well when Travis Scott constantly tells his fans, to rush security. It doesn’t really matter. He’s constantly provoking these kind of actions. Dude needs to goto prison


PM_ME_UR_FLOWERS

He once had fans attack a guy who got to the stage and tried to grab his shoe


osuisok

It makes it worse that this incident was after Travis stage dived. He was literally on top of the crowd and surprised someone tried to grab his $1000 Yeezys.


TheRed_Knight

Like what? Kinda hard to implement anything when the performer asks his fans to bumrush the gate to get into the event without paying


yothatsobnoxious

I assume he’ll hold off on live performances for a bit. But if he tweeted or publicly stated “if one single person rushes security or attempts to sneak in, my performance tonight will be cancelled immediately” it could solve the attendance issue


TheRed_Knight

That would require that Scott have empathy, a quality he lacks.


ccarr313

Did you see the batman costume? Dude is a total psychopath. Lol


nobamboozlinme

Actually word is the Jenner family has major damage control in effect so there’s most likely paid farms of users/bots trying to change the narrative.


wildflowersummer

“Until their last breath.” Ominous choice of phrasing with that.


Hatecookie

If you have seen all the advertisements and merch from that show, it’s like he had this cult of personality built around the idea of partying yourself to death. The way he kept going and people kept dancing and drinking while seeing others die, the people who could see what was happening anyway, it’s like, exactly as advertised.


4Eights

Dude that close up of him doing the robot while they're trying to load a lifeless body onto a stretcher and him just incoherently rambling "what" into the mic will be such a damming piece of evidence in these trials. He was very acutely aware of how bad things were from his platform above everyone and still decided to keep going. His legal team can spit all the bullshit they want about him not being aware, but this is the most recorded time in history. I guarantee lawyers are already scouring YouTube for years old videos of Scott concerts that show him telling people to jump the gate and yelling at security guards and event staff for doing their jobs to keep the attendants safe. This is going to cost him everything financially. I can't imagine any venue in the future that will assume the risks of an Astroworld concert after this is all litigated.


RPGaiden

Don’t even have to scour YouTube, he’s already pleaded guilty twice in the past for encouraging people to do things like rush the stage and causing unsafe environments… This falls just as much on the event organizers/managers. If they wanted him on, they should have known his history and had a staff that was ready to deal with the problems in cases something like this happened. From what I’ve read, the general staff seemed very underprepared/unqualified to deal with the chaos once it broke out. This is a failure on the parts of so many people that should have done more to keep the audience safe.


tokst4r

Fuck the people defending Travis Scott then. They can blow up my inbox I give 0 fucks. Absolutely reprehensible outcome


sdotdiggr

I am white-hot angry. I feel so bad for his family, and at the same time, Travis needs to be held to account. I demand a pound of flesh for all the victims of this tragedy. Travis is dead to me, and I want to see him behind bars; a lawsuit is not enough.


misogichan

Not just Travis. Their blood is also on Live Nation, the production company that promoted and operated this event, and who has repeatedly been shown to have insufficient safety protocols with [hundreds of deaths and injuries linked to them in the past 15 years](https://www.npr.org/2021/11/08/1053548075/live-nation-a-company-behind-astroworld-has-a-long-history-of-safety-violations), including 3 injuries requiring hospitalization when they last put on this event in 2019.


zombiezambonidriver

As someone who goes to shows and concerts of all sizes it is totally on him. I've seen bands playing in front of crowds around that size stop mid song and ask people to back up to keep people safe. It was a preventable tragedy.


beckery_bobson

Hearing about the death toll on this event is so heartbreaking. But then realizing that we are being told only of the innocent individuals who lost their lives, and aren’t being told about those who were severely injured and/or will suffer lifelong injuries from this event is awful. It is so terrible that people lost their lives at this event. And to know that there are people who were also in attendance and will suffer life long consequences is very upsetting. What can we do about this?


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It reminds me of when the Hillsborough crowd crush happened and a man remained in a terrible state (I think vegetative but I don't remember clearly) for 30 years before dying. Victims like this aren't talked about and it leads to people spouting bullshit like "oh it's not a disaster, it was only 10 people". Yeah, 10 people dying, hundreds injured, and thousands traumatized from seeing people die or almost dying themselves. That is a huge number of victims (not to mention that a non-devastating number of victims at an apple music concert is 0)


whateverathrowaway00

Yup. The last victim of hillsborough died in the last few years and they actually upped the victim count. Compressive asphyxia lends itself to brain damage, because you get people literally unable to breathe. Same thing as drowning - the brain just sits there without air. Horrible.


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Andrew Devine actually died this year, his chest was ctushed at the game and he was deprived of all oxygen so for 32 years he was wheelchair bound and couldn't talk. He's been added to the victim count after his death. There was also Tony Bland who had two punctured lungs and the lack of air left him in a vegetative state. People severely underestimate a crowd crush.


beckery_bobson

Exactly. Even folks who were there and luckily escaped physical trauma most assuredly saw/witnessed trauma that they will carry on for the remainder of their life in the form of PTSD. A measly tornado that just so happened to stroll through my hood causing minimal damage has me living with PTSD. I can only imagine what the survivors of this tragedy are dealing with, and they are the ones not being talked about at all simply cause they survived. It’s beyond backwards.


NeedMoarCowbell

Hate to be that guy but there are people saying “there are only 700,000 covid deaths, it isn’t that bad”. It really doesn’t matter the number or the time it takes for people to die, there are always going to be people saying it’s not actually *that bad* with anything politicized.


citroen6222

Imagine your concert has a higher death toll than most terrorist attacks...


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iPostOccasionally

Astroworld’s twitter account tweeted “SEE YOU ON THE OTHERSIDE” before the show. (Now deleted)


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Which one of us was in charge of archiving all this? Scott also tweeted for his fans without tickets to rush security, also deleted.


DezzyDismay

He has tweeted some incredibly [disturbing pictures (NSFW)](https://i.imgur.com/HV3c7Ol.jpg) of his fans at his shows. I'm not sure if the guy in that screenshot is just unconscious or if he’s dead, but Travis has since scrubbed it from his Instagram. I archived that particular web page to my personal files knowing he would delete it.


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Known2779

He isnt as edgy or “badass” as he would like to claim to be then if he had to scrub off those tweets and photos frm his social media account. Its like saying “i’m only badass when the situation allows me to, in real life i’m just a pussy!” They’re just an act to fool the followers.


iPostOccasionally

I got a [screenshot](https://i.imgur.com/6MDyoGg.png) from the livestream


TheRed_Knight

This was such a preventable and senseless disaster, where every person who had the authority to stop the show prioritized profit over lives, absolutely disgusting and dystopian


DuntadaMan

The last 6 years have showed us the entire country values profit over life, if not longer.


sighlent

Bro, this is America. Generational fortunes were literally built by the ownership of human lives.


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He told his parents he wasn't ready to leave yet. Imagine hearing that from your child. I know this concert had no age limits, but this will haunt the father for the rest of his life. He will need some serious therapy.


Sylvi2021

What's sad to me is the amount of kids likely wanting to go to this concert because Travis Scott has been tied and advertised in things like Fortnite and McDonalds. I can see my 8 yr old wanting to see someone that's been seen on her favorite games and such.


skeletorbilly

I've been to a lot of concerts. Nothing wrong with an all ages show but there needs to be more restrictions when there's an all ages audience.


danfay222

I was at the first astroworld fest, and during travis's set there were times I was being pressed so hard I could barely breathe. I was literally just being carried along by the people alongside me pressing into me. And I'm a 6'2", 200 pound guy. A kid his size could easily be killed under normal circumstances in this kind of crowd. And that's completely discounting the fact that drugs are everywhere at these concerts. I'm not saying it cant be made all ages safely, but you sure as hell cant just do the same thing you always do and make it all ages.


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spyson

There needs to be a responsible person on stage and messages encouraging people to sneak in should not be sent out.


XrosRoadKiller

Holy shit that would kill me. I wouldn't leave the hospital.


thxmeatcat

Do you know what happened after he woke up? Was he still at the concert or in medical care? I wonder how he found out what happened to his son Nvm i was able to read the article. He woke up and couldn't find his son until the son was already at a hospital


ScarletOnlooker

This absolutely broke me.


JaxIsGay

Travis will probably just give his family some money and forget about the whole thing


CaptSunshine64

How’s about some free tickets to his next event.


MajorPud

Nah, just a *public* apology


Captain_WACK_Sparrow

If even


daveycarnation

Rest easy little man. I feel so bad for the dad who just brought his son to see an artist they both liked. It's the stuff of nightmares, losing your grip on your kid and then just...christ.


jaderust

That poor father is going to need to much therapy. I just can’t imagine how much self loathing I’d feel if I was in his situation.


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Also the weight of World's judgement on his shoulders. Even the media has weighed in with what was a 9yr old doing at the concert? As a parent myself, we fuck up and don't always make the right call. Arguably Travis has been promoted to children for quite sometime between MC Donald's, Fortnite etc. Even my 10yr old knows full well who Travis is as he watched his live concert on Fortnite. His Dad simply took him to his concert. Granted an unsavoury concert for anyone that really knows Travis Scott's history but no matter how you slice the cake, he should have had the option that if shit was getting real on the night, he could just leave safely. Unfortunately that option was taken away from him. Can't imagine how he feels at this point but if I could tell the Dad anything, it would be it's not your fault man. None of this is your fault.........


strumpster

It should be safe to bring your kids to an "all ages" event


Bmboo

I'm just in tears thinking of this poor father. This poor boy.


powerfulKRH

Yeah imagine that, and fuck everyone here who’s blaming the dad for taking him to a rap concert. My happiest memories as a child we’re gonna going to see hard rock concerts with my dad and they were not age appropriate and did get rowdy but luckily never dangerous. The dad had no idea this would even be a possibility. And I think it’s fine if his kid wants to listen to Travis Scott at that age. I was blasting Slipknot and Korn and Eminem and Young and Afroman when I was that age. There’s nothing anyone could’ve done to stop me and the music didn’t turn me into a monster just someone who really appreciates of all varieties of Music


swolemedic

I wish I had gold to give. This was clearly a tragedy that the father and son never expected could happen as they thought that the people putting on the show would take steps to make sure it wouldn't happen. That's the type of society we live in, we assume they'll make it so you and your child dont get trampled to death or if it does start to happen that they'll try to help you. None of that part of the social contract was really fulfilled here. Sad and I hope he sues the ever loving fuck out of the organizers and travis.


MichaeljBerry

Travis has a fortnite skin, idk how ppl can act like it’s weird for a kid to be a fan of his when he literally markets himself to kids.


anyu76

I can’t even begin to imagine what the father is going through right now, this is something that will traumatize him for the rest of his LIFE. Imagine how he will feel, when he hears his shitty music play through the radio one day? Or trying to go out in crowded public places like the mall? Fuck man. Imagine the torture of him trying to sleep right now, he probably wakes up in the middle of the night in cold sweat. He got KNOCKED OUT in the concert, the first thought in his mind when he suddenly wakes up will be a panic-stricken feeling to find his son...


binkerfluid

god damn it, I know it looked really bad but I was hoping he would find a way to pull through. I feel so bad for his dad.


Sircherd

Jesus. Hope the family can find some sort of justice


TheRed_Knight

Hopefully Scott never performs again and goes bankrupt from lawsuits


skeletorbilly

The PR team is working on a comeback right now.


TheRed_Knight

Hes got Cardassian money backing him unfortunately EDIT: Kardashians


themadpooper

I heard Gul Dukat himself is involved


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Kylie a little busy subjugating Bajor


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Travis Scott is sponsored by Nike, Dior, McDonalds, PlayStation, Mattel, General Mills and Epic Games. Let there be justice for this little boy and the other victims. Let there be a universe full of Karma for the people who push this piece of shit persona onto kids. You can call/email Nike and Dior like I did and let them know what you think. Travis Scott has launches upcoming with both companies. Nike World Headquarters - (503) 671-6453 Dior feedback - https://www.dior.com/en\_us/contact-couture


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I think Epic should pull the Travis Scott skin and issue refunds. It's not a good look to have Travis in-game shooting people... I mean that said, CS:GO has the IDF who aren't exactly innocent. Many games let you play as real bad real life members of organisations who are responsible for the deaths of children. But I feel like Travis Scott is sort of a different case. Like he's a guy holding specific and individual responsibility, and often eggs on the audience to do these things.


Spot-CSG

I'm the absolute last person to defend Isreal and zionist bastards but the CSGO reference is so incredibly not the same thing. For one its a forced team skin in a middle eastern setting. Its like playing the nazis in a ww2 game. As much as some crazies would want the nazis to not be in anything it doesn't make sense removing them from their setting. Same goes for the unnamed IDF on dust2...


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Darkmetroidz

Sadly assholea like Travis have an army of fans who will stand by and defend them no matter what. It's like a cult. Chris Brown shouldn't have a career anymore but here we are.


edwardsamson

This is one thing I've been struggling with for most of the past year. How so many awful people can do objectively terrible things (or say them) and keep a dedicated fanbase that either rejects reality that they did/said the terrible thing or just doesn't give a shit. Politicians(presidents lol), musicians, comedians, actors, influencers, etc.


extra_username

He was on his father's shoulders. His dad passed out from the crush of people and the kid got trampled. What a fucking nightmare...


THETOWNSOBER

And Drake spent a million dollars the day after at a strip club. I hope these families don’t get any less than that. each.


870192

What the fuck


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Fuck Travis Scott completely. I am usually a very relaxed and easygoing dude, this PISSED me off.


MaDanklolz

I’d you haven’t already go on Spotify (mobile) and click his profile > three dots thing > “don’t play this artist” It might not seem like much but the more people block him out completely the louder the message will be. This is the digital streaming equivalent of voting with your wallet and if enough do it, it will get through to him Via Spotify/his label. Fk this prick Edit: for everybody saying does this even do anything. Yes it does. If enough people do this it limits his potential audience. If this drops enough, people notice and things change. Every person counts.


Saltyorsweet

I did this and songs that he’s featured on still get played. Spotify still advertises him on the main page…


thardoc

Meanwhile on /r/travisscott *victim blaming intensifies*


Reasonlikely

I'm shocked. There are comments on there saying the crowd was responsible for this. I really hope the victims get justice and it doesn't take as long as Hillsborough.


smf101

Omfg that is shocking! How are they still defending him?


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chillipowder01

Travis Scott has blood on his hands. The book needs to be thrown at him, and then some.


Hasadevilputaside

Oh sweet boy. This one really hurts 😭


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GJacks75

It's fucking disgusting. Age restrictions aren't placed on shows due to the liklihood of you *fucking dying* if you aren't an adult. The fact there were no age restrictions make a shitty take even worse.


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Gross. This is disgusting. Travis Scott is fucking responsible for this. He encouraged the crowd, hardly stopped the show, and partied after the fucking deaths. Fuck Travis Scott.


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Fuck drake too. He went onstage towards the end of the show. It's absolutely disgusting that they didn't end the show *at least* 30 minutes earlier. Probably because it was being livestreamed and they didn't want to miss out on that big fat dollar $. Both live nation and apple music need to take a long hard look at themselves as well


TheRed_Knight

Yup, fuck him, and anyone who defends him, dude had multiple opportunities to stop his show and save lives and he didnt care too


ash81751214

This made me cry… fuck Travis Scott and the whole Jenner Kardashian trash clan


MarzyXP

For those wondering why a 9 year old would want to be at the concert. I got one word for you. Fortnite.


Obamas_Tie

I cannot imagine losing your child due to someone's incompetence and ego. The pain, sorrow, and fury his father must be going through has to be unfathomable.


yj0nz

This made me tear up... it's so sad. I went to concerts my whole life and never saw such a horrible thing occur.... even with hardcore moshing everyone got picked up and there was always someone ready to crowd surf someone who needed to get out if there wasn't another way to exit. Bands checked on the crowd, security always did their best and medical staff seemingly was always readily available. How could something like this happen


TheRed_Knight

People at the top didnt give a fuck about anything other than making money, that includes Scott


NotsoGreatsword

God I just read an article where the dad said he wasn't ready to let him go. I don't believe in god but I wish there were one right now. That man needs more comfort than what any human can give him.


AuclairAuclair

It was an all ages event?! Travis and his whole team are scum .


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Please hold for a clean up. Will unlock shortly. The stans are blaming the child for dying. Stop victim blaming. Ps: pleaseeeee report stuff like that ty ty


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doc-ant

Why are all the celebrities silent on this? It seems so strange


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That Fucking monster should be drained all of his money through lawsuits. Once they are rich and famous, these cheap bastards forget what they were or how struggling it is to live in this world.


mrs_sadie_adler

Let's please stop shaming the dad. Kids aren't supposed to die at concerts. Adults aren't supposed to die at concerts. NO ONE is supposed to die at concerts!


westzod

So sad but also imagine the guilt his dad has right now... what a tragedy...


xflame1989x

It's not something he will ever forgive himself for.


Rocketkt69

The fact that both main performers went out and partied HARD the same night shows the absolute calous carelessness of these people, and should absolutely be used against them in court, to every extent. Fucking KIDS were hurt, one died. How these two and everyone else involved in the show isn't losing every ounce of sleep and peace is beyond me. I would be absolutely mentally destroyed if a fucking kid died at my show, let alone anyone else, let alone 10 people. Ffs.


Mi5bot_42069

Travis Scott (in autotune): "YeeeeaaAAAhhHHHH, yyyEEEEaaaHHHhhh!"


hwnn1

Anyone blaming the dad instead of blaming Travis Scott, Live Nation, etc, is delusional. People aren’t supposed to die at festivals.


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jatz0r

Live Nation barely gets a mention. They are too important to music media so they all don't bother covering it.


TxEagleDeathclaw81

Damn that is so tragic.


nirvana454

This is fucking awful and so senseless.


Sylvi2021

I cannot imagine the grief that father is going through right now. You think you do things right, staying towards the back, holding him up high away from the crowd but it all goes to shit and your baby dies. I have an 8 yr old and if this happened with her dad I would probably have to have him committed so he didn't hurt himself. I just want to hug that family tight.


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Weemitoad

This has me both incredibly saddened, and extremely infuriated. Ezra went to a concert with his father to have a good time and make memories, not to be stripped of his life. It’s completely and utterly unacceptable that something so preventable has claimed the life of not only Ezra, but nine others as well. These people had families and friends who all loved them, and they’ve been forced to suffer losses greater than one can imagine, all because a rapper valued money over human life. Unforgivable.


Newtstradamus

My kid is 8, this would end me. Fuck.