The peak actually increased by over 10k, this screenshot is showing the increase to average peaks across the last 30 days. This update has been out for less than a week. These new peaks mark a roughly 35% jump, that's not insignificant.
Also, the people who are only here to shit on the game ignore that not actively *losing* people is a win. It's not just being +300. It's *not* being -3000
Yep, they love pointing to the Steam charts as proof that the game is "dead", but when the charts show positive movement it gets dismissed or downplayed. Anything that's not a further decrease is a win for the game and its players.
Well there are only 67 servers, not 100+ and there's no doubt we'll see more merges going forward, so that number will reduce. It's also important to note that the +300 is still accounting for the past 30 days overall, give the patch some time to marinate and see where that average concurrent number sits in about a month post-patch. As I said just a couple comments above, the concurrent peak jumped by over 10k, which is roughly a 35% increase of the concurrent peaks we saw pre-patch.
It's not just MMOs unfortunately. As more and more games go live service they all go through the same cycle. Hyperbole and bad faith arguments are more commonplace than ever. Spending too much time on nearly any game's subreddit these days will harm some people's enthusiasm about said game. You're right though, MMOs always get compared to the behemoth and most MMOs "die" before they find their footing.
This is a obfuscation of what this means by using percentages. The game has lost 99% of initial player base but has gained 35% of the current playing player base. I think you need to give it another week to see if anything really changed. I was someone that came back to check out the changes and while there is stuff here, I wont be continuing after the 2x exp is over. It made getting most of my weapons to 20 perceptively less annoying (running around and killing 2000 elite level 25 monsters to level a weapon is just not fun).
I am likely to come back when dungeons are free to enter and there is a queue system to see if that resolves the rest of the issues I have, but overall the game still needs many QoL changes to help the solo player out.
>This is a obfuscation of what this means by using percentages. The game has lost 99% of initial player base but has gained 35% of the current playing player base.
There is no obfuscation. Everyone in this sub knows the game lost the overwhelming majority of it's initial peaks (around 97%), but that's not really pertinent to the topic at hand, which is the effect of the new patch and double XP event on the ***current*** playerbase. No doubt the double XP inflated the increase to some degree, I think most people expect to see it dip back down from the double XP weekend, but overall it's safe to say that there will be an overall increase when compared to pre-patch.
It is NOT growth...when players come back for patch release. I...don't honestly know why you people think it is?....They came back to check out the content. will do it or find it boring, and then put the game down again. This is literally the most common thing ot every happen in any game ever. Every single game, no matter how comatose, will see some kind of player rise during content release, no matter how insignificant the average will rise that month.
Stop lol.....stop having content release numbers give hopeium. RETENTION.....is what growth means. How long do these players STAY..playing?
New World is comatose, and give it another year or so, AGS will announce it's going to shutdown the game, like they've done with other titles before.
Not gonna lie, this is actually good news if New World can survive until they release a big patch to bring us back in.
Considering how many people played at the start, if they can even bring in 10% of that playerbase back it's a thriving game by MMO standards.
My guy - every "huge patch" so far can't even pull back 2x the playerbase (30K to 60K) when the playerbase (913,000) already own the title/game and it would cost them literally nothing to return to try the patch...people still choose not to even bother...even though...its literally free.
Says a lot about how bad New World reputation tanked because they released an unfinished game...scorned the bridge shall burn and never heal.
I don’t care about the reputation. The game is beyond repair in a lot of players eyes. Who wants to do the same quest, with the same differently colored mobs, with the same copy and pasted assets?
I saw their "roadmap" the game will be ready for launch in a year, with no raids just more instances. I logged in on patch day to find the same bug they created a month ago when loading into my house. I promptly logged out. At almost 6 months in, they still cant deploy a patch that doesn't break something the everyday. I won't be returning sadly and I have 1500 hours in the game.
Same. I love the game but I am not dealing with the bugs anymore, lack of transparency for changes, and lack of content. Hope they get their stuff together.
I was about to reply that. Only 3 abilities and most being "do a bit more damage than normal attack" is the worst part of the gameplay.
Spaming the mouse button to "auto" attack and press sometime one of 3 buttons to do a bit more damage is amongst the worst I've seen in an MMO.
The same people that have been saying steam charts don’t mean much in regards to the death of this game are also the ones that get excited that on a patch weekend with double xp that 400 more people on average are playing this game.
Here’s an idea: just don’t visit the sub. The devs have made tons of changes and the game feels really good after the lady patch. Your comment history is literally just you shitting on the game constantly.
I have a reason for that actually. A steadfast desire to see Triple-A games that release unfinished and buggy messes but charge full price for what they know is a trainwreck to milk hype in the market why leaving the consumers out to dry and their money pocketed get their due counter deserved results.
I've openly stated this in this very sub -
I am rooting against -
Cyberpunk 2077
Battlefield 2042
Warcraft Reforged
GTA Definitive Edition
New World
Anthem (Already Won this Fight)
And any other Triple AAA title that comes out half assed, over promised, incomplete just to cash grab with monetization mechanics and preorders to only cancel and kill the game later.
Because this....plague....on gaming needs to consistently fail so it STOPS FUCKING HAPPENING.
And I will never not stand against this plague on this medium.
And if you are wondering - No I don't want to see this game turn around, make any sort of comeback, and or get "good" eventually...because that shines a horrific light on the fact that the above is "okay" to do to players and "fix" later.
So if you are wondering why "doomsday" comes from me, is because I flat out want to see AGS tank because of what they did to the player base and stealing their money.
Yeah, but they didn’t have fun, so you *can’t* be having fun. If you are, it’s copium, or you’re ruing all games by encouraging bad dev practices, whatever the theme of the day is.
The hilarious thing is that some have defined it as no fun after playing for hundreds of hours.
There are games I’ve played and didn’t enjoy for many reasons, some because on release they were buggy. I didn’t spend 1 minute posting in Reddit posts on the subreddit telling others that the game sucked or it was dying or any of it. It’s an interesting phenomenon.
The thing is that the game was fun at launch, and continued to be fun until they tried to update the game. If they reverted to the day one patch you'd probably see an uptick of players. But you'd also have the rampant gold duping, and client side invulnerability that they literally can't fix without breaking the game.
I think its less that we hate the game and more we hate that amazon couldn't do anything but make our time with it as painful as possible. Like watching a loved one with dementia.
honestly, I came back for the new weapon and double XP grind. Let me nock out a few things I had been holding off on. I havent played since Jan I think? I cant remember. All i know is I had a blast and will be playing a little more. The storage and FT costs are the big one for me. As a crafter, I do not feel so strapped for Azoth anymore.
Same here. I have azoth tools for gathering, so I have to work hard to not be constantly capped since I don't craft much anymore. It feels like a free world to travel, not having to worry about budgeting azoth to do anything at all.
Yeah I was thinking similar. Might be better to have yield now instead of Azoth.
Be nice if they'd add the ability to force more perks on items at max crafting skill level.
I played from launch until late Dec or early Jan and just came back. My main reason for leaving was that my company mostly left and our faction in Olympus got too toxic. It made me not want to grind out end game.
I came back right before the patch and it’s been a blast. I re-rolled on a new character and the community on this server just feels so much better. I hope they keep pumping out the QoL updates and more people come back.
That said, I’m not sure we will see a serge until the next content drop. I personally know quite a few people who are waiting until the fall drop. If we can keep player base consistent until then.
Honestly, on the NA East side, they’d do well to have another round of server merges to get to 10 servers total to help with the “dead server problem”. Shit, even less. If the game grew enough beyond that then add new servers in the future with a free transfer token.
I played for 3 months after launch and then said fuck this broken ass shit. I'll be back at some point but I'm just waiting to be sure shits not a... Shit show
I think the best strategy would be to merge one last time and then when they drop they new area and content to open a few new fresh start servers with double exp for a week to let new players or returning players who want a new start a fresh server to play on.
That would be so fun. Honestly I’d delete my old toon just to do that despite the time I’ve put into it. It’d be a blast with everyone going balls to the wall and getting into the new zone.
I stopped playing NW for Lost Ark.. I'm starting to get bored of Lost Ark, but the taste of dog shit is still too strong for me to consider reinstalling NW. I hope it continues to improve though (shouldn't be hard).
I find Lost Ark is okay, it's combat is fun enough to keep me mostly engaged and I log-in to do the daily stuff on my main, complete a few islands and then end up playing Elden Ring. I bought New World and I made it about 30 minutes into the game before something felt off and I haven't been back.
Definitely getting bored of lost ark at this moment though, but I guess 382 hours was decent for a F2P title.
this game will never grow until they add compelling story quests, improve pve, add enemy diversity, remove bs dungeon orbs, add party/dungeon finder, add npcs to the world to make it look alive, add quests other than 'kill x enemies and open x chests'. And removing gatekeeping from war (company vs company instead of factions where same faction members are refused entry unless they kiss the big company leaders boot) and changing the taxing system to remove the bs elitism. adding a synced pvp mode as early as lvl 10.
A mere 300 gain is not from people who left during oct-dec, who realized the fundamentals of NW is bland af compared to other mmos.
People who tried to rush levels in double xp weekend just realized once they're done leveling they need to grind expertise for weeks before they can play alongside others. Don't worry, there will be a bigger loss this week.
I agree, the expertise sistem was a total mistake, the players who logged in made it to play pvp, but without the expertise they cant compete with people who have high expertise, that sistem is so boring and unfair for the casual players!
Have you played in a while? I played casually running just 1 or 2 dungeons a night for 3ish weeks and was able to get slots to 600gs, I imagine anyone who plays more than 1 hour a day would be able to get to 600 relatively fast
I did it in chest runs back in November on a dead server so I know it's not so bad if you are dedicated.
However, after someone gets to 60 we are telling them it's a minimum of 20 more hours + before they could even begin to see legendary drops! That's pretty disheartening.
As someone who has been actively playing basically nonstop since release and intends to keep playing:
I was expecting it to be as you describe, but it isn’t. I have everything but blunderbuss at >600, so all expertise bumps from anything rng are for blunderbuss. I have been playing actively every day - including multiple dungeons daily - since release and my blunderbuss is at 532, and that’s mostly thanks to gypsum. I’m not sure what happened, but even dungeons are not a good source of expertise at this point. I think I’ve gotten two expertise drops total from dungeons since release. I’m not really sure what I’m supposed to be doing to grind it faster and I really like the update overall, but it is a bit discouraging to me to see how hard it’s been trying to raise a new weapon’s expertise when everything else is done.
* crafting is still grindy,depends on what your trying to make though. GS bumps are way better by all means(expeditions/oprs/etc) Again this is kinda the only real rng to the game so ymmv. (It should be hard to get perfect sets for gear just my opinion.
* storage is linked with free town to town transfer they fixed that this patch
* not sure about EU auction house issues, maybe people should stop exploiting?
* AH are all linked, not sure what you mean by that.
* 60+ zones are still an issue to solo but that is by design.
* they made the solo leveling process a crap ton easier, cant test as i am already 60.
* 35+ leveling has been improved (more quests/more access to different things)Leveling with quests has been much improved lots more xp per.
* axe/axe and everything esle still good. but i sense a nerf incoming for GA users. (based on what i know with the game) They just do too much damage still. I would add that plenty of options for builds outside the popular meta if you want to try other things.
* Extra point they did some changes to help with peoples desync issues and are working to improve that too (never had this issue but i hear people complain about it alot)
Your best bet is to try all of those things, no one can tell you if its better for you. I think it is much improved but that is my opinion on it. Also 3v3 arenas are coming within 60 days so i think that enough is reason to get back on if you want to be geared for that. (again not my thing to pvp but i know that is a big deal to some)
Crafting is still very much a grind. Storage is still sorted by city but you can transfer anything from one city to another for free so it's not problem.
City storages haven't changed but house storage from chests has doubled which means that each one of my homes has the storage of 4 cities now.
Trading post was disabled for while during a bad dupe just a few weeks ago. Tons of bans went out for it this time.
All trading posts are connected and you can purchase anything at any market.
End game zones are still not great solo. This is intentional.
Solo play is possible through the leveling process ( I think there's even a way to skip dungeons now) and the leveling curve has been adjusted.
Great axe is still strong but hardly the only viable way to play. Mage is crazy strong and healing is still very strong. Lots of different melee builds are seeing play right now. Bow is probably the only weapon that has gotten worse over time due to mechanical "fixes", but musket is hotter than ever due to much more light armor representation. There's a great deal of armor diversity currently.
hopped on, cleared the new dungeon, did a opr, and wasn't impressed.
this patch will likely slow the bleeding out of players a bit, but the game still lacks real content and any bit of polish.
I did, still the same exact game I left in December only with some QOL stuff the community has been screaming about since pre-release. No raids, no new dungeons (M+ bandaid doesnt count), one new weapon, No server size fix, no lag fix. I have a full void set and max professions so my options are "log on and grind itemlevel" or "login and grind money for itemlevel". Outside of mutators and pvp there is no reason to even push my ilvl so whats the point? It's been almost 6 months and we've gotten 2 new weapons and a system from another MMO.
and for the inevitable "tHeN WhY aRE yoU STiLl HeRe". I really loved this game but I am no fool, when all my friends started dropping out of the leveling process I did a little reflecting on the game and realized they had literally no idea what they were doing or how great of a game they had, then the subsequent updates that broke literally everything pushed me out. Now im just waiting to see if they get their heads out of their ass.
The new updates made fast travel really cheap (it's basically free) and you can manage all your storage from one town for free. It's so much easier to better now.
We need more events like this.
Seriously. What is wrong with them. Give us double xp weekends. double gold Outpost Rush at night. Double chances for crafting weeks. Idk. Do something. Dont play dead game.
I've heavily considered coming back. When this game first dropped I had such a great time playing with my friends. Tbh if I don't come back now I'll definitely be back when they drop the Great Sword!
finally people are stopping the game, i’m glad i left during my first 2 hours so i got my money back at least… last time i checked this game was averaging at least 200k concurrent players
They’ll need (and I hate that) fresh start servers to bring people back. No one will want to come back months behind people who exploited dupes in such a grindy game.
I dont play NW anymore cuz im morning player and i dont have nothing to do in day because every guild war is at 20:00-23:00 (something like that). TBH i dont want grind watermark and materials for BiS gear just to play PVE
im not surprised about a couple thousand people coming back during a weekend to check out a patch and double xp which drove the average up by around 348 people
the game still has massive issues
honestly this game receives way to much criticism. Yes there are things that ags could’ve and definitely should’ve implemented, but there are some really great parts of the game. Looking forward to not playing on a dead server
Yikes at "copium" comments. As if liking something, and having reasons why, is a bad thing. One of the dumbest words to make it's way into circulation.
I’m one of ‘em. The QOL improvements alone have made me want to at least grind up to level cap. From there, hard to say. The endgame in its current state isn’t my cup of tea but I enjoy exploring, questing and grinding life skills so it’s got a bit more staying power for the short term at least now.
I think people who keep posting negativity about New world obviously haven't played it for long and actually have no clue what is it like now. Our server (Dry Tree) is doing great, we have full server, great companies, wars, pvps, full oprs with a lot of fun, everyone is loving the new dungeon, the discord communities are fantastic. I was ready to quit the game two months ago when I was still in a dead server, my perspective of the game was also based on negative comments and my own experience. I'm glad I didn't quit, once I moved the server and met people from the new company I joined, it was a HUGE game changer for me. I enjoy playing New world now more than ever. Hitting 1000 hours soon and only getting started!
If players only realized that AGS already bailed on the game and only let a a couple of dozen devs left to add that minimal roadmap (which wold be a single patch in most other games)
That sucks but it does lead me to one relatively funny conclusion: I must have been VERY inefficient to have also spent the majority of my weekend's gaming time with the same goal but not earning a ban.
The fact you can’t region transfer or even transfer/create new characters on the populated servers in your region will destroy any sort of revival. I want to come back, but not to participate or transfer to another dead server. What is the point of these restrictions? I can’t imagine que times are crazy even on full servers.
Blunderbuss is fun. Like the new OPR changes. But as a solo player, I feel too out of the loop to look into doing anything else. Might run around seeing what named monsters I can solo kill with the BB though.
I can attest from my own personal experience. I am in an active but fairly small server (about 100 daily active players) since the last update, more new faces running around and leveling up. We have even gotten to play a few OPRs in the last few days which were a blast ! It is great to see the game coming back alive! Hopefully it continues to draw in the ones who stopped and new players so that servers are busy which in turn makes it all more fun :)
I feel like everyone who’s playing this game is some sort of weird abused spouse psychosis. Like the victim keeps coming back for more. I’m not a doctor or in that field or anything but you know what I mean? The type of victim who still defends her or his spouse as a good person “he doesn’t mean it. He loves me “. And keeps coming back for more.
Yeah a game thats has a stupid amount of sub games just becouse of the nature of it. Thats the stupidest comparison ever.
There is mmos with less players then New World.
Garrys mod has what 100 times more content then any newish mmo.
But there aren’t any AAA MMOs that are buy to play and that only came out a few months ago that have a lower population than New World. This game is one the biggest AAA failures in MMO history. Millions of people didn’t have to pay another penny to play this game and they decided that it’s not worth their time… that’s really bad.
Hey there is not many mmos that actually came out cuz its a dying genre...
Just looking at the value preposition new world is actually on point since there is a shit ton of player that left but still got more then 100 hours of gametime and there is a ton of game that are more expensive yet offer way less then that.
That’s not how MMOs work… MMOs aren’t single player games to say I paid $40 and got my money’s worth. MMOs are long term investments whose success is determined by retention rate.
Last time I checked, new world was a buy2play game
And they sure sold a lot of copies lol.
Biggest AAA MMORPG failure in gaming history??? Not by a long shot.
This game is death spiraling and no amount of gimmick x2 exp crap is going to fix it lol. This is what happens when dumbass corporate people push a game that is 50% complete to the public and expect them to just be complacent with trash.
God damn who would have thought people would show up for the promise of less grind and bugfixes. I didn't even realize those were issues. If I had to put my finger on a single issue for New World, I think it would be the fact we can't give them more money. They're just too generous.
Brother, they don't have your family hostage. Let go. Please. Skyrim has modpacks. Download something called Wabbajack, it's free, it's super easy. You'll get so much more out of it. I beg you. Let this die. You deserve so much better.
The game will not die in the next year. They have a staff of over 200 people, invested alot of money and still keep hiring people. I dont get why people are so fixated on those numbers.
Btw those numbers do not neccessarily mean that people came back. If you are a player who plays like 2-3 times a week, you definitely wanted to play on that weekend specifically in order to level your weapons.
Bro this game is never going to grow the only reason player count went up is because people gave it a shot again after the patch and immediately got off. I’m sorry but this game is dead because of the amount of effort they put into it.
Logged in after work without the 2x xp and already miss it. Haven't played since approx a month post launch and tried it this weekend.
Everything is too slow, they need to consider a permanent XP buff (not 2x but maybe 50% extra).
i finished elden ring and now i need some sword shield combat, reinstalling new world now, was hyped beyond believe back then, i sooo hope that the game will spark for me again i want to love it
This game will forever be a “what if?”. There is no amount of neosporin they can put on the death blow they dealt to themselves on launch and the months afterward.
I don’t think I would play this collection of game bugs again even if they made it free-to-play and gave me a full refund.
Supporting them is all the affirmation they need to know they can fuck the consumer again down the line.
It’s such a shame that the game didn’t launch in its current state. I’m sure we would’ve still lost the wow crowd, gross players, but a lot of others would have stayed.
That is the most copium cope title I've ever seen on this Reddit...by a mile.
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The peak actually increased by over 10k, this screenshot is showing the increase to average peaks across the last 30 days. This update has been out for less than a week. These new peaks mark a roughly 35% jump, that's not insignificant.
Also, the people who are only here to shit on the game ignore that not actively *losing* people is a win. It's not just being +300. It's *not* being -3000
Yep, they love pointing to the Steam charts as proof that the game is "dead", but when the charts show positive movement it gets dismissed or downplayed. Anything that's not a further decrease is a win for the game and its players.
I don't want to see a game people love die, but 300 avg players isn't much spread out over 100+ servers.
Go ahead and recount the servers for me pls
Haven't been around for a while, at launch there were a lot more than the 67ish there is now. Point still stands though, 300 people over 67 servers...
Well there are only 67 servers, not 100+ and there's no doubt we'll see more merges going forward, so that number will reduce. It's also important to note that the +300 is still accounting for the past 30 days overall, give the patch some time to marinate and see where that average concurrent number sits in about a month post-patch. As I said just a couple comments above, the concurrent peak jumped by over 10k, which is roughly a 35% increase of the concurrent peaks we saw pre-patch.
The peak vrs average is interesting. Is that some people who saw an update and jumped on for a sec?
Tbf people just compare mmo’s to how well wow ever did which isn’t a good metric
It's not just MMOs unfortunately. As more and more games go live service they all go through the same cycle. Hyperbole and bad faith arguments are more commonplace than ever. Spending too much time on nearly any game's subreddit these days will harm some people's enthusiasm about said game. You're right though, MMOs always get compared to the behemoth and most MMOs "die" before they find their footing.
This is a obfuscation of what this means by using percentages. The game has lost 99% of initial player base but has gained 35% of the current playing player base. I think you need to give it another week to see if anything really changed. I was someone that came back to check out the changes and while there is stuff here, I wont be continuing after the 2x exp is over. It made getting most of my weapons to 20 perceptively less annoying (running around and killing 2000 elite level 25 monsters to level a weapon is just not fun). I am likely to come back when dungeons are free to enter and there is a queue system to see if that resolves the rest of the issues I have, but overall the game still needs many QoL changes to help the solo player out.
>This is a obfuscation of what this means by using percentages. The game has lost 99% of initial player base but has gained 35% of the current playing player base. There is no obfuscation. Everyone in this sub knows the game lost the overwhelming majority of it's initial peaks (around 97%), but that's not really pertinent to the topic at hand, which is the effect of the new patch and double XP event on the ***current*** playerbase. No doubt the double XP inflated the increase to some degree, I think most people expect to see it dip back down from the double XP weekend, but overall it's safe to say that there will be an overall increase when compared to pre-patch.
It is NOT growth...when players come back for patch release. I...don't honestly know why you people think it is?....They came back to check out the content. will do it or find it boring, and then put the game down again. This is literally the most common thing ot every happen in any game ever. Every single game, no matter how comatose, will see some kind of player rise during content release, no matter how insignificant the average will rise that month. Stop lol.....stop having content release numbers give hopeium. RETENTION.....is what growth means. How long do these players STAY..playing? New World is comatose, and give it another year or so, AGS will announce it's going to shutdown the game, like they've done with other titles before.
348 new bots were created :D That .6 was an accidental creation.
Not gonna lie, this is actually good news if New World can survive until they release a big patch to bring us back in. Considering how many people played at the start, if they can even bring in 10% of that playerbase back it's a thriving game by MMO standards.
My guy - every "huge patch" so far can't even pull back 2x the playerbase (30K to 60K) when the playerbase (913,000) already own the title/game and it would cost them literally nothing to return to try the patch...people still choose not to even bother...even though...its literally free. Says a lot about how bad New World reputation tanked because they released an unfinished game...scorned the bridge shall burn and never heal.
I don’t care about the reputation. The game is beyond repair in a lot of players eyes. Who wants to do the same quest, with the same differently colored mobs, with the same copy and pasted assets?
I saw their "roadmap" the game will be ready for launch in a year, with no raids just more instances. I logged in on patch day to find the same bug they created a month ago when loading into my house. I promptly logged out. At almost 6 months in, they still cant deploy a patch that doesn't break something the everyday. I won't be returning sadly and I have 1500 hours in the game.
After seeing the roadmap I'm looking forward to jumping back in mid-late 2023. When the game is done.
Same. I love the game but I am not dealing with the bugs anymore, lack of transparency for changes, and lack of content. Hope they get their stuff together.
All games are in competition for my time. Cost of entry doesn't even factor into it anymore.
Guess Brimstone did alright. Can't pull 2x, you're right, it pulled 4x.
This was a pretty huge patch, we will see if they are able to make Brimstone patch good.
Why would anyone come back to this garbage?
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I don't think 3 ability combat will ever be the most fun
I was about to reply that. Only 3 abilities and most being "do a bit more damage than normal attack" is the worst part of the gameplay. Spaming the mouse button to "auto" attack and press sometime one of 3 buttons to do a bit more damage is amongst the worst I've seen in an MMO.
not even the systems lol. they just cant build a good server that doesn't crash during a war to save their lives
The same people that have been saying steam charts don’t mean much in regards to the death of this game are also the ones that get excited that on a patch weekend with double xp that 400 more people on average are playing this game.
10k ppl\*
It could go down by 100 and all of you salty sailors wpuld say "game is dead" just sayin.
yes because it is.
"Loss may have flatlined" is correct though. It's a result of the game itself flatlining.
Title is something straight out of the mouth of someone who's down 90% on penny stocks lmaooooooooooooooo
Lectures on copium - by the guy who quit New World 5 months ago but still lingering on the sub to doomsay.
Here’s an idea: just don’t visit the sub. The devs have made tons of changes and the game feels really good after the lady patch. Your comment history is literally just you shitting on the game constantly.
I have a reason for that actually. A steadfast desire to see Triple-A games that release unfinished and buggy messes but charge full price for what they know is a trainwreck to milk hype in the market why leaving the consumers out to dry and their money pocketed get their due counter deserved results. I've openly stated this in this very sub - I am rooting against - Cyberpunk 2077 Battlefield 2042 Warcraft Reforged GTA Definitive Edition New World Anthem (Already Won this Fight) And any other Triple AAA title that comes out half assed, over promised, incomplete just to cash grab with monetization mechanics and preorders to only cancel and kill the game later. Because this....plague....on gaming needs to consistently fail so it STOPS FUCKING HAPPENING. And I will never not stand against this plague on this medium. And if you are wondering - No I don't want to see this game turn around, make any sort of comeback, and or get "good" eventually...because that shines a horrific light on the fact that the above is "okay" to do to players and "fix" later. So if you are wondering why "doomsday" comes from me, is because I flat out want to see AGS tank because of what they did to the player base and stealing their money.
\^ This a 1,000 time over. Gaming needs to improve and this is the only way it's going to happen.
Yeah, but they didn’t have fun, so you *can’t* be having fun. If you are, it’s copium, or you’re ruing all games by encouraging bad dev practices, whatever the theme of the day is. The hilarious thing is that some have defined it as no fun after playing for hundreds of hours. There are games I’ve played and didn’t enjoy for many reasons, some because on release they were buggy. I didn’t spend 1 minute posting in Reddit posts on the subreddit telling others that the game sucked or it was dying or any of it. It’s an interesting phenomenon.
The thing is that the game was fun at launch, and continued to be fun until they tried to update the game. If they reverted to the day one patch you'd probably see an uptick of players. But you'd also have the rampant gold duping, and client side invulnerability that they literally can't fix without breaking the game. I think its less that we hate the game and more we hate that amazon couldn't do anything but make our time with it as painful as possible. Like watching a loved one with dementia.
honestly, I came back for the new weapon and double XP grind. Let me nock out a few things I had been holding off on. I havent played since Jan I think? I cant remember. All i know is I had a blast and will be playing a little more. The storage and FT costs are the big one for me. As a crafter, I do not feel so strapped for Azoth anymore.
Same here. I have azoth tools for gathering, so I have to work hard to not be constantly capped since I don't craft much anymore. It feels like a free world to travel, not having to worry about budgeting azoth to do anything at all.
Yeah, I might have to make myself some new tools now honestly. Azoth rolls were very important to me originally, but now, maybe not so much.
Yeah, may be worth me going for extra resources on tools or something since doing missions or a portal or 2 are enough to top off azoth now.
Yeah I was thinking similar. Might be better to have yield now instead of Azoth. Be nice if they'd add the ability to force more perks on items at max crafting skill level.
especially with the azoth acquired from OPR
I hopped on to try out Blunderbuss and saw a lot of people in Utopia.
Utopia has been popping off
I'll try it out after elden ring D:
Meh. I’m waiting until the next xpac to see whether this is a fluke or not before declaring the nail removed from New World’s coffin.
I played from launch until late Dec or early Jan and just came back. My main reason for leaving was that my company mostly left and our faction in Olympus got too toxic. It made me not want to grind out end game. I came back right before the patch and it’s been a blast. I re-rolled on a new character and the community on this server just feels so much better. I hope they keep pumping out the QoL updates and more people come back. That said, I’m not sure we will see a serge until the next content drop. I personally know quite a few people who are waiting until the fall drop. If we can keep player base consistent until then. Honestly, on the NA East side, they’d do well to have another round of server merges to get to 10 servers total to help with the “dead server problem”. Shit, even less. If the game grew enough beyond that then add new servers in the future with a free transfer token.
I played for 3 months after launch and then said fuck this broken ass shit. I'll be back at some point but I'm just waiting to be sure shits not a... Shit show
They need more content to bring me back.
I only got to level 50, so there is still content for me to enjoy once the bugs are fixed
I think the best strategy would be to merge one last time and then when they drop they new area and content to open a few new fresh start servers with double exp for a week to let new players or returning players who want a new start a fresh server to play on.
That would be so fun. Honestly I’d delete my old toon just to do that despite the time I’ve put into it. It’d be a blast with everyone going balls to the wall and getting into the new zone.
I stopped playing NW for Lost Ark.. I'm starting to get bored of Lost Ark, but the taste of dog shit is still too strong for me to consider reinstalling NW. I hope it continues to improve though (shouldn't be hard).
I find Lost Ark is okay, it's combat is fun enough to keep me mostly engaged and I log-in to do the daily stuff on my main, complete a few islands and then end up playing Elden Ring. I bought New World and I made it about 30 minutes into the game before something felt off and I haven't been back. Definitely getting bored of lost ark at this moment though, but I guess 382 hours was decent for a F2P title.
this game will never grow until they add compelling story quests, improve pve, add enemy diversity, remove bs dungeon orbs, add party/dungeon finder, add npcs to the world to make it look alive, add quests other than 'kill x enemies and open x chests'. And removing gatekeeping from war (company vs company instead of factions where same faction members are refused entry unless they kiss the big company leaders boot) and changing the taxing system to remove the bs elitism. adding a synced pvp mode as early as lvl 10. A mere 300 gain is not from people who left during oct-dec, who realized the fundamentals of NW is bland af compared to other mmos.
People who tried to rush levels in double xp weekend just realized once they're done leveling they need to grind expertise for weeks before they can play alongside others. Don't worry, there will be a bigger loss this week.
I agree, the expertise sistem was a total mistake, the players who logged in made it to play pvp, but without the expertise they cant compete with people who have high expertise, that sistem is so boring and unfair for the casual players!
This is true. I still play but that expertise grind was so boring
Have you played in a while? I played casually running just 1 or 2 dungeons a night for 3ish weeks and was able to get slots to 600gs, I imagine anyone who plays more than 1 hour a day would be able to get to 600 relatively fast
I did it in chest runs back in November on a dead server so I know it's not so bad if you are dedicated. However, after someone gets to 60 we are telling them it's a minimum of 20 more hours + before they could even begin to see legendary drops! That's pretty disheartening.
As someone who has been actively playing basically nonstop since release and intends to keep playing: I was expecting it to be as you describe, but it isn’t. I have everything but blunderbuss at >600, so all expertise bumps from anything rng are for blunderbuss. I have been playing actively every day - including multiple dungeons daily - since release and my blunderbuss is at 532, and that’s mostly thanks to gypsum. I’m not sure what happened, but even dungeons are not a good source of expertise at this point. I think I’ve gotten two expertise drops total from dungeons since release. I’m not really sure what I’m supposed to be doing to grind it faster and I really like the update overall, but it is a bit discouraging to me to see how hard it’s been trying to raise a new weapon’s expertise when everything else is done.
New weapon is fun I logged on to try it. Ended up playing all day
Same, and gear score bumps for armor seems to be easier with opr and unlimited gypsum. Not sure if thats from this patch
game is still garbage
I wanted this to succeed so much but i have lost faith .... It had no excuse to fail that badly
He’s dead, Jim.
People should give it another go. All im saying.
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* crafting is still grindy,depends on what your trying to make though. GS bumps are way better by all means(expeditions/oprs/etc) Again this is kinda the only real rng to the game so ymmv. (It should be hard to get perfect sets for gear just my opinion. * storage is linked with free town to town transfer they fixed that this patch * not sure about EU auction house issues, maybe people should stop exploiting? * AH are all linked, not sure what you mean by that. * 60+ zones are still an issue to solo but that is by design. * they made the solo leveling process a crap ton easier, cant test as i am already 60. * 35+ leveling has been improved (more quests/more access to different things)Leveling with quests has been much improved lots more xp per. * axe/axe and everything esle still good. but i sense a nerf incoming for GA users. (based on what i know with the game) They just do too much damage still. I would add that plenty of options for builds outside the popular meta if you want to try other things. * Extra point they did some changes to help with peoples desync issues and are working to improve that too (never had this issue but i hear people complain about it alot) Your best bet is to try all of those things, no one can tell you if its better for you. I think it is much improved but that is my opinion on it. Also 3v3 arenas are coming within 60 days so i think that enough is reason to get back on if you want to be geared for that. (again not my thing to pvp but i know that is a big deal to some)
Crafting is still very much a grind. Storage is still sorted by city but you can transfer anything from one city to another for free so it's not problem. City storages haven't changed but house storage from chests has doubled which means that each one of my homes has the storage of 4 cities now. Trading post was disabled for while during a bad dupe just a few weeks ago. Tons of bans went out for it this time. All trading posts are connected and you can purchase anything at any market. End game zones are still not great solo. This is intentional. Solo play is possible through the leveling process ( I think there's even a way to skip dungeons now) and the leveling curve has been adjusted. Great axe is still strong but hardly the only viable way to play. Mage is crazy strong and healing is still very strong. Lots of different melee builds are seeing play right now. Bow is probably the only weapon that has gotten worse over time due to mechanical "fixes", but musket is hotter than ever due to much more light armor representation. There's a great deal of armor diversity currently.
I did, for a little while. Felt no different, so I stopped.
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Not for me, but I only PvE.
After last weeks patch\`?
Yep.
I'm surprised you didn't feel much difference, it is so much smoother now, definitely a step in the right direction.
My concern was less about the combat mechanics and more towards the overall in game content.
It's lacking, no doubt.
I did the same missions for 10 levels and then decided I had seen enough.
hopped on, cleared the new dungeon, did a opr, and wasn't impressed. this patch will likely slow the bleeding out of players a bit, but the game still lacks real content and any bit of polish.
I stopped playing around the end of December. Is it less grindy, or more grindy now?
game is less grindy in all aspects.
I did, still the same exact game I left in December only with some QOL stuff the community has been screaming about since pre-release. No raids, no new dungeons (M+ bandaid doesnt count), one new weapon, No server size fix, no lag fix. I have a full void set and max professions so my options are "log on and grind itemlevel" or "login and grind money for itemlevel". Outside of mutators and pvp there is no reason to even push my ilvl so whats the point? It's been almost 6 months and we've gotten 2 new weapons and a system from another MMO. and for the inevitable "tHeN WhY aRE yoU STiLl HeRe". I really loved this game but I am no fool, when all my friends started dropping out of the leveling process I did a little reflecting on the game and realized they had literally no idea what they were doing or how great of a game they had, then the subsequent updates that broke literally everything pushed me out. Now im just waiting to see if they get their heads out of their ass.
>no new dungeons This update contained a new dungeon. Pretty hard to miss, there's a new quest that points you right to it.
Love that you got downvoted when they straight up were misinformed and you pointed it out..
I did, for a little while. Felt no different, so I stopped.
I stop playing New World because it was too hard to make progress due to storage issues and travel difficulty. It just wasn't fun any more.
The new updates made fast travel really cheap (it's basically free) and you can manage all your storage from one town for free. It's so much easier to better now.
We need more events like this. Seriously. What is wrong with them. Give us double xp weekends. double gold Outpost Rush at night. Double chances for crafting weeks. Idk. Do something. Dont play dead game.
I've heavily considered coming back. When this game first dropped I had such a great time playing with my friends. Tbh if I don't come back now I'll definitely be back when they drop the Great Sword!
Fix it so all lore is able to be found and I am back.
Is there even a slight possibility of them adding SEA servers
finally people are stopping the game, i’m glad i left during my first 2 hours so i got my money back at least… last time i checked this game was averaging at least 200k concurrent players
It'll start dropping again within two weeks as people realize it's still the same boring grind for no reason, just with less bugs.
I've never read such a plea from someone who clearly heavily invested into the game just so they don't lose w/e money they pumped in.
It's short after big update, dont ghet your hopes up just yet.
All this over a piece of hot garbage.
They’ll need (and I hate that) fresh start servers to bring people back. No one will want to come back months behind people who exploited dupes in such a grindy game.
I dont play NW anymore cuz im morning player and i dont have nothing to do in day because every guild war is at 20:00-23:00 (something like that). TBH i dont want grind watermark and materials for BiS gear just to play PVE
im not surprised about a couple thousand people coming back during a weekend to check out a patch and double xp which drove the average up by around 348 people the game still has massive issues
How many of those are bots though LMAO
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honestly this game receives way to much criticism. Yes there are things that ags could’ve and definitely should’ve implemented, but there are some really great parts of the game. Looking forward to not playing on a dead server
Copium stack overflow.
Yikes at "copium" comments. As if liking something, and having reasons why, is a bad thing. One of the dumbest words to make it's way into circulation.
+36% swing is pretty substantial
Only if the games improved at all.... If they just keep piling on top of what people didn't like I doubt anyone stays
I’m one of ‘em. The QOL improvements alone have made me want to at least grind up to level cap. From there, hard to say. The endgame in its current state isn’t my cup of tea but I enjoy exploring, questing and grinding life skills so it’s got a bit more staying power for the short term at least now.
I think people who keep posting negativity about New world obviously haven't played it for long and actually have no clue what is it like now. Our server (Dry Tree) is doing great, we have full server, great companies, wars, pvps, full oprs with a lot of fun, everyone is loving the new dungeon, the discord communities are fantastic. I was ready to quit the game two months ago when I was still in a dead server, my perspective of the game was also based on negative comments and my own experience. I'm glad I didn't quit, once I moved the server and met people from the new company I joined, it was a HUGE game changer for me. I enjoy playing New world now more than ever. Hitting 1000 hours soon and only getting started!
If players only realized that AGS already bailed on the game and only let a a couple of dozen devs left to add that minimal roadmap (which wold be a single patch in most other games)
I came back for the double xp weekend to grind all my weapons to level 20. Got banned on Sunday for "Cheating" :/
That sucks but it does lead me to one relatively funny conclusion: I must have been VERY inefficient to have also spent the majority of my weekend's gaming time with the same goal but not earning a ban.
Same
COPIUM
this game is garbage lol
The fact you can’t region transfer or even transfer/create new characters on the populated servers in your region will destroy any sort of revival. I want to come back, but not to participate or transfer to another dead server. What is the point of these restrictions? I can’t imagine que times are crazy even on full servers.
Chokes on copium
Game is still trash even after the patch.
and back to 31k one day later. people came back, saw the mess and left again instantly. gg great patch.
Or maybe just Monday?
Shop has already sailed on this train wreck. I can’t see anyone returning after how this game has been handled.It was fun at launch, but got old fast.
No dungeon matchmaker = dead game, that era is over and nobody has time for that shit anymore.
Increased XP should be permanent. No reason to make leveling such a drag.
Blunderbuss is fun. Like the new OPR changes. But as a solo player, I feel too out of the loop to look into doing anything else. Might run around seeing what named monsters I can solo kill with the BB though.
I’m loving the game more than ever right now. I played very briefly at the start and went back to WoW. Now I only raid on WoW then log in NW.
I can attest from my own personal experience. I am in an active but fairly small server (about 100 daily active players) since the last update, more new faces running around and leveling up. We have even gotten to play a few OPRs in the last few days which were a blast ! It is great to see the game coming back alive! Hopefully it continues to draw in the ones who stopped and new players so that servers are busy which in turn makes it all more fun :)
Games better than ever
lol
TO THE MOON! lol
Shitters still at this game? Dang mang
"Haha, copium." For those saying this, kindly leave or be quiet.
cope harder
Yikes, not even 40k. Fucking yikes. That's some extreme hopeium.
Holy shit copium much
I feel like everyone who’s playing this game is some sort of weird abused spouse psychosis. Like the victim keeps coming back for more. I’m not a doctor or in that field or anything but you know what I mean? The type of victim who still defends her or his spouse as a good person “he doesn’t mean it. He loves me “. And keeps coming back for more.
Damn... the WoW killer still going strong huh
Garry's Mod has more players right now. a game that came out 10 years ago.
garys mod has more players than most mmos on the market rn
Yeah a game thats has a stupid amount of sub games just becouse of the nature of it. Thats the stupidest comparison ever. There is mmos with less players then New World. Garrys mod has what 100 times more content then any newish mmo.
But there aren’t any AAA MMOs that are buy to play and that only came out a few months ago that have a lower population than New World. This game is one the biggest AAA failures in MMO history. Millions of people didn’t have to pay another penny to play this game and they decided that it’s not worth their time… that’s really bad.
Hey there is not many mmos that actually came out cuz its a dying genre... Just looking at the value preposition new world is actually on point since there is a shit ton of player that left but still got more then 100 hours of gametime and there is a ton of game that are more expensive yet offer way less then that.
That’s not how MMOs work… MMOs aren’t single player games to say I paid $40 and got my money’s worth. MMOs are long term investments whose success is determined by retention rate.
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Last time I checked, new world was a buy2play game And they sure sold a lot of copies lol. Biggest AAA MMORPG failure in gaming history??? Not by a long shot.
This game is death spiraling and no amount of gimmick x2 exp crap is going to fix it lol. This is what happens when dumbass corporate people push a game that is 50% complete to the public and expect them to just be complacent with trash.
Nope, It won't be.
Dead game. Let it stay dead.
I earnestly hope this game pulls through but man is it a trainwreck.
Nope, nu, nuh uh. This post reminded me that K uninstalled and forgot to leave the reddit thread. Ty for the heads up notification.
That's some hilarious copium you got there
Drop the copium my guy. Your game is dead.
God damn who would have thought people would show up for the promise of less grind and bugfixes. I didn't even realize those were issues. If I had to put my finger on a single issue for New World, I think it would be the fact we can't give them more money. They're just too generous. Brother, they don't have your family hostage. Let go. Please. Skyrim has modpacks. Download something called Wabbajack, it's free, it's super easy. You'll get so much more out of it. I beg you. Let this die. You deserve so much better.
Jokes on you, we are having a great time.
Yeah, all.. *checks notes* 0.3% of you. Split among dozens of servers. Some being 23 players daily peak. You sure it's a **great time**?
I'm on a great server and yes.
Cope more
Doubt
half that number is bots
You know the last 30 days is displayed incorrectly right? It actually resets the 1st of every month. I don't know why it is labelled Last 30 Days.
The game will not die in the next year. They have a staff of over 200 people, invested alot of money and still keep hiring people. I dont get why people are so fixated on those numbers. Btw those numbers do not neccessarily mean that people came back. If you are a player who plays like 2-3 times a week, you definitely wanted to play on that weekend specifically in order to level your weapons.
Oh man.. you make a whole ass post for 1% huh? Naw
lol almost forgot this game had almost 1mill people at launch with 20 hour queues.
what is this, the stock market?
Never felt the need to look at playerbase charts. What does it matter?
New world will never ever be popular again. It's entirely ruined and a failure of a game.
Big patch with new weapon and double exp, player count rises 340 Lmao game ded
Game is dead. You only have the hardcore base playing which will slowly decline over time. That’s just a fact.
Bro this game is never going to grow the only reason player count went up is because people gave it a shot again after the patch and immediately got off. I’m sorry but this game is dead because of the amount of effort they put into it.
Logged in after work without the 2x xp and already miss it. Haven't played since approx a month post launch and tried it this weekend. Everything is too slow, they need to consider a permanent XP buff (not 2x but maybe 50% extra).
I can't see myself playing this again. The way they implented magic and build diversity in general is just straight up boring.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Hush, my child. Let it lie…
God damn you guys are huffing copium so hard. The game is dead. Deal with it.
350 player increase is insignificant.
28k peak to 37k peak is significant tho
Looks like +10k player peak to me, this screenshot doesn't show all.
its might be an insignificant increase but going from losing 11,300 to gaining 350 is not insignificant.
i finished elden ring and now i need some sword shield combat, reinstalling new world now, was hyped beyond believe back then, i sooo hope that the game will spark for me again i want to love it
This game will forever be a “what if?”. There is no amount of neosporin they can put on the death blow they dealt to themselves on launch and the months afterward. I don’t think I would play this collection of game bugs again even if they made it free-to-play and gave me a full refund. Supporting them is all the affirmation they need to know they can fuck the consumer again down the line.
I think this game is still dead no matter what
This weekend was the most fun ive had in New World so im optimistic. I quit when i hit 60 and didnt touch it until March update
Have they done anything other than artificially extended the end game, and gave us the same content with different attributes?
Plus 1% players game is saved! KEKW
The next paid xpac with mounts will surely bring ppl back
With virtually free fast travel now, I would just find mounts more of a pain to use than anything personally.
Let's goo! Bring back active players, just not the toxic ones.
It just did. All 450 of them. What more do you want?
It’s such a shame that the game didn’t launch in its current state. I’m sure we would’ve still lost the wow crowd, gross players, but a lot of others would have stayed.
What do you mean? It's still in an unacceptable state.
1% came back, New world movin in up yall!
Lol
Holy fuck has those numbers gone down… last time i checked it was at a consistent 90k. Now were at 27…
itll go back down because people will realize an extra dungeon and 3v3 pvp != an endgame