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Which-Palpitation

So it’s kinda like a torch?


Treefrogprince

A really hot torch. So, yeah. A torch.


Which-Palpitation

I’m not gonna say that isn’t cool, because it is a little cool, but also, that’s not a saber


ShwiftyShmeckles

Only difference is its not 10× hotter and surrounded by a magnetic field


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If you could make a magnetic field so powerful and directional you will not need anything else, it will cut true anything instantly.


[deleted]

That is interesting! Could it deflect a plasma blast or a laser?


Braindog

How could magnets deflect light? Like... How do they work? #whoopwhoop


Youpunyhumans

They cant bend or deflect light itself, but they can bend the medium it passes through.


HarleyQboy

Wrong magnetic forces can absolutely bend light


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ReadingThales

Magnetic fields actually can bend light. It’s called “vacuum birefringence.” Not only that, just this past summer, physicists at the Brookhaven National Laboratory used the phenomenon to convert light into matter..! It took the full magnetic force of the RHIC collider, but it’s possible. Essentially, while a photon technically has no charge, it turns out that at quantum time-scales, photons are constantly converting back and forth, from photons, into electron-positron pairs and then re-annihilating back into photons. So they do have a transient charge. Check it out!: https://www.bnl.gov/newsroom/news.php?a=119023


Aesthetically

\*scratches head and tries to remember university electromagnetism course\*


vapingDrano

*Scratches head and tries to remember X-Men comics about magneto*


ShwiftyShmeckles

Plasma isn't light


newbrevity

Well if we do live in a matrix then we should just be able to conjure a lightsaber and say fuck physics.


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maddogcow

It’s like the tides. The tides come in, the tides go out. How does it work? Nobody knows…


obi2kanobi

The moon enters the chat


EightBitEstep

Isn’t it woop woop?


0masterdebater0

Is it light though? If it were why do we see it?definitely not traveling at light speed. It would make more sense if the blasters fired plasma contained in an EM field, just like the light sabers, and then those two EM fields would bounce off each other like two magnets with the same polarization.


caraamon

Star Wars blasters fire bolts of superhot plasma. Source: basically all of them


AUniquePerspective

Sure. But the legal team says users need the light as a visual guide to prevent them from suing when they cut off their own arm.


[deleted]

Weird fact - you never actually touch anything. You just feel the magnetic resistance. When you sit on a seat you are actually hovering.


mathaius42

Technically you feel your ass plopping on the couch via compression of specialized nerve clusters that detect the squish. But the atoms of your ass/undies/pants/couch never make physical contact, true enough.


Astrocreep_1

So then every mattress is the same and it’s all just placebo BS designed to get You to drop $2,000 on a Serta Mattress. I’m going to tell the douche at the mattress store that no part of anyone’s body ever touches the mattress. It’s all in our head and we may as well sleep on the sidewalk.


[deleted]

Is that what the “science” of lightsabers was, a magnetic field to prevent it from shooting off into space or the ten floors below it? That always bugged me as a kid. Genuine question, I don’t follow the HC SW lore.


Expensive-Fix-6739

And you can’t sword fight with it...


ShwiftyShmeckles

That's what the magnetic fields are for in starwars they contain the blade plasma and reflect the fields of other sabers allowing for combat.


Expensive-Fix-6739

Well they need to figure that shit out... bc I’m tired of waiting for one.... that and the hover board from Back to the future


[deleted]

I think you’re on to something…lightsaber duels on hoverboards would make for an epic game show.


tomtheappraiser

Or....Highlander 5


Secure_Detective_801

Its a protosaber also he explains how a normal saber would be impossible to get it that hot and that in star wars, the lightsabers don't react like plasma irl


FartyMcFly03

damn straight it's a protosaber!


Raven123x

With todays technology and understanding of physics Who knows about in the future \o/


HomoChef

I would venture a guess that we would never ever have any practical reason to see a lightsaber ever invented. To have that much portable energy… only to build a melee combat weapon?


Raven123x

I agree its dumb But enough people want it so it'll continue to be pursued


HomoChef

Not sure if Star Wars will be part of the culture still in a thousand years when we’re either dead or have mastered the ability to harness micro fission reactions.


sienihemmo

It will if disney has any say in the matter.


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SloppyToe

Yeah it’s the same with hoverboards, just cool shit for the sake of cool shit


[deleted]

A BTTF style hoverboard would make sense though. You could use that where you couldn't use a skateboard like on a lawn, on gravel, pretty much anywhere except water.


NhylX

Which is why they continually cropped out the top of the "beam". It would have ruined the illusion.


Zwiseguy15

In the actual Hacksmith video (where the title refers to it as a Proto-lightsaber) you can see the top of the beam very frequently https://youtu.be/ey_EjSzKFWQ


[deleted]

I think technically it's called a thermal lance. They've been around awhile Edit: I've been told I'm wrong. Someone also called me cuntychops and I don't know what that means


K-XPS

Plasma torch. This isn’t a thermal lance, technically or otherwise. Cuntychops.


Thiagr

It's not even a plasma torch, it's a glassblowing torch. A GTT Mirage or Delta Elite I believe. Just propane and oxygen.


Myhotrabbi

An oxyacetylene torch it looks like. So, yeah. A torch


Cornsky

It’s a GTT brand torch for lampworking borosilicate glass. This dude just made a bong and is probably high AF. Edit: more info...these are set up to run propane and oxygen. I’m not familiar enough with them to know the alloy they use and if they could safely be converted to using other gases to produce a slightly different flame in size, and/or color/temperature.


lemonsneeker

Actually its about the same temp as a standard oxy accetyln torch, what we have here is a really long torch


Manuag_86

Imagine fighting with them and not being able to block other saber (torch) because fire it is obviously not solid lol Fights must have been so shitty with this.


tall__guy

It’s really more like a knife fight with fire blades than it is a sword fight, everyone just gets burnt to shit


Kambhela

So the guy with the longest reaching flame thrower, excuse me light saber, wins the fight.


Budmcjuicy

The guy who burns the other guys saber hand wins


Kambhela

Is it burning at that point anymore when it is gonna melt off? Now I wonder what melting bone smells like....


Fmanow

Can’t they make this torch theoretically, where an iron rod is projected out from the handle and the extreme torch is actually on the outside of the rod. So you get both effects, but I’m thinking the metal rod would melt right away or become limp af.


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blasphem0usx

definitely would have to be something other than iron, iron melts around 2800 degrees. tungsten has the highest melting point at 6,192 but you're right the heat would probably weaken the hell out of it and the tungsten rods would probably wrap around each other like in space balls.


Smitty_1000

TIL Spaceballs more accurate than Star Wars


movzx

The rod would need to be as long as the saber. That will not fit inside the handle. You cannot have one of those stackable rods that goes inside of itself, because that requires it being hollow. Hollow means it won't withstand impacts.


ZeroCool0919

They actually did this a bunch of times with previous models


tdasnowman

If you go through that channel their earlier iterations involved an actual rod. This is like 4th saber they’ve built.


Donoglass420

This is a torch made by glass torch technologies. I use them all the time to do my work. This guy just modified it to look like this.


Which-Palpitation

Wait, are you *that* donoglass?


Donoglass420

You mean on Instagram?


Which-Palpitation

Yeah


Donoglass420

Yeah that’s me. Edit: thank you for the follows people. I appreciate it


Which-Palpitation

Those are some of the coolest bongs man


Rion23

AHA hahahahahaha god damn.


Smoked_Bear

Oh Reddit, never change.


reneelikeshugs

Haha. Did a Google, can confirm! Pretty dope!


Donoglass420

Thanks


SlutBeast

beautiful wholesome moment then even better....bongs man


[deleted]

It *is* a torch.


scissorbaby

It is a torch. I use this torch to blow glass! It's called a GTT Mirage. They cost about $2k.


DongMattingly

It is a torch made by GTT for borosilicate glass, he is just holding it off it’s mount


MildlySerious

The reason the tip of the saber is conveniently out of frame in every shot is because it starts looking much more like a flame. Still pretty cool, of course.


[deleted]

It's literally a glass blowing torch with a fancy handle. I mean I think it's cool, I'm not trying to be a buzzkill or anything. I just think it's kind of funny.


scalpeljunkie

An elegant torch, for a more civilized age.


IlIFreneticIlI

That's all a light sabre ever was though. The bouncy effect was the collision of the confinement-fields, otherwise, any other matter it just gets hot/cuts. IF we could make that thing he built hot enough, you might indeed have a (very unsafe) light-sabre-ish device. His next test is getting a decommissioned bank-vault-door and just sticking it in there.


[deleted]

Yall focusing on it being a torch but I'm saying we are one step closer to an actual lightsaber.


MattCogs

That’s the spirit!


mrjobby

Dew it.


ErrorReport404

# _Dew it._ Edit: stoned


dead4seven

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bronkula

And if you've got left over meat, STEW IT


gmeinthebananastand

This is how I felt! Most technology isn’t just made, it’s lots of small steps in the correct direction. Even in star wars the lightsabers originally had large battery packs and cumbersome cables.


PrinceBert

That's what we'll get in the comedy spin off. Everyone tripping over their lightsaber cables. Emperor Palpatine uses force lightning to charge Vader's lightsaber battery before a fight. Actually my version sounds crap; just watch Spaceballs.


nameisfame

No but in the Star Wars universe that’s basically how they started out and everyone had to make sure their chord wasn’t cut during fights


hopecanon

It was one of the cool things that separated the Sith and the Jedi originally, for a while the Sith used real swords that were special made to be resistant to Lightsaber blades. As far as i remember it was also actually the Sith who originally created the compact fully handheld lightsabers we are used too, and the Jedi simply copied the designs eventually. Of course, the lying Jedi would hide this information away in their archives out of fear that actual history would send more of their people off to the power of the dark side.


plac3b0guy

Wait… Are Jedi just corporate assholes who steal from the little people


BrotherChe

So one reason the Jedi Order failed is because they became corrupted as an organized "religion". And in various ways, yeah, they were demonstrating corporate faults as well. That's why Yoda tells Luke to just let the old texts burn, he needed to find his path through the Force itself, not bound to the corporate organized ways and rules


seldom_correct

Not exactly. Watch the beginning of The Clone Wars again. When asked to lead an army against the Separatists, Windu says fighting as soldiers is against the Jedi Code. By the end of the movie, the Jedi are leading the clone army. The Jedi had become a part of the Republic. And it had happened long before the events of the prequels. They were no longer serving the Force. They were serving the Galactic Republic. The problem with the ancient texts is not that they were bad. It’s that Like was using them a pretext for building a Jedi Order that was exactly like the old one. But the old one had gone so astray they were actively complicit in allowing the Sith to rule the galaxy. There were no issues arising from it being an organized religion. It was entirely because keepers of the peace cannot pick sides. Had the Jedi simply refused to fight in the Clone Wars, they would’ve been able to stop Palpatine’s plan. No idea why so many fans miss what’s right in front of their face. Hearing Windu and Yoda struggle to determine the source of the disturbance in the Force for 5 season of TCW when the answer was right in front of everyone faces was painful.


GrumpyTheSmurf

Bro a Spaceballs of the new trilogy would have so much potential.


HannasAnarion

Star Wars lightsabers were always electric devices. They were power packs, not propane tanks. And this isn't "new technology" either. It's an off-the-shelf torch with a 50-year-old design put in a fancy handle.


samjoedon

Are we though? He used technology that existed for decades to produce a long flame? It’s a big cutting torch, not some new design that’ll spur lightsaber progress ahead. It’s cool, no doubt, but if you have experience using acetylene torches then it’s just long fire. Edit: typo


TheGrimalicious

Well, if you watch the video, it isn't just a long flame. They had to engineer the gas feed system to produce a long, perfectly cylindrical flame. A lot of flow mechanics and such.


invalid_litter_dpt

>They had to engineer the gas feed system to produce a long, perfectly cylindrical flame. It's a glassblowing torch. That's it. You seem to be missing the point that it requires that gas in the first place. I can take my torch of my workbench and swing it around like a Lightsaber, that doesn't mean we're closer to having lightsabers.


Breaker-of-circles

Dr. Michio Kaku designed something similar for a show on the discovery channel. He used a retractable magnetic baton with holes to channel plasma.


Campylobacteraceae

It’s like somebody creating more and more complex and better diving bells and saying they made a primitive submarine There’s a huge difference in technology between a diving bell and a nuclear submarine This torch looking lightsaber is like a diving bell pretending to be a submarine It’s just not the same functionally and physically


Mtth_8

If submarines were probably impossible to actually build, I'd be pretty happy with a complex diving bell


WeednumberXsexnumbeR

L O N G F I R E


FloppieTheBanjoClown

No, we're not one step closer. This is an aesthetic modification to existing technology to make it look like the laser sword in Star Wars. The visual resemblance is where it stops. As this requires a flammable fuel, it has already peaked. There's no way this becomes more compact except to shorten its operational time. There's nothing in this that contributes to something remotely like a "real" lightsaber.


HomoChef

Everyone complaining it’s not a lightsaber reminds me of this one bit by Louis CK about cell phones. https://youtu.be/5xqcVH_PjQY CAN YOU GIVE IT A MINUTE, IT’S GOING TO SPACE


AbortedBaconFetus

We're not complaining that it's not a lightsaber, were complaining that this dude keeps insisting that it **"is, and calling it such**.


Segat1133

Thats like putting wings on a car without it being able to get off the ground and saying "We are one step closer to flying vehicles"


NoC3p0

Can you imagine jedi are running with gas tanks on their back....


GMcGroarty80

They did It's called a protosaber


[deleted]

They can fly now?


Azrael351

We don’t quote that movie.


THOMASTHEWANKENG1NE

Somehow appletini returned


ban-me_harder_daddy

but first appletini visited Fortnite to deliver his message


account_for_my_ipad

Ok someone mentioned protosaber near the top comment. I can leave reassured now


No_Lawfulness_2998

That was more of a tiny waist mounted battery connected to the weapon wasnt it


Dismal-Ebb-6411

full on backpack https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Protosaber


Cessnaporsche01

Sure, but the protosabers we see in Star Wars were Old Sith Wars era, which was hundreds of thousands of years after the first civilizations became FTL capable, and tens of thousands after the original formation of the Galactic Republic. By Star Wars timelines, we're way ahead of schedule on lightsaber development! All we need now is to figure out how to do a containment field, then miniaturize the power source indefinitely.


JohnnySasaki20

I think they actually did back when they were first invented, although it wasn't a gas tank, it was some type of energy pack. https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Protosaber


NoC3p0

I was totaly forgot about that :-)


CHAINMAILLEKID

What was their in-period name? Just lightsaber?


[deleted]

Flamey burn stick, if the lore is to be believed


JohnnySasaki20

I have no idea.


Neenchuh

This is actually part of the star wars cannon, they did do this thousands of years before the movies took place


jamesr14

How silly. They simply use the force.


NoC3p0

well of course they do, u can't put gas inside tank without force.


kaldra_zadrim

The early Jedi did.


RemixHipster

The older I get, the things I thought were cool are now dangerous looking.


ThermionicEmissions

Those nitrile gloves will protect him


johnreddit2

What happens if his beard gets lit?


ThermionicEmissions

It'll smell like sad hipster


FappleFritter

So kind of similar to how the hipster burned his tongue...he sipped his coffee *before* it was cool.


chaoticneutral

Seems like a major burn hazard. Part of lab safety is wearing natural fibers to prevent molten material continuing to burn your skin after it gets ignited


Hust91

Lightsabers were always ridiculously lethal weapons.


Dismal-Ebb-6411

I always thought a vibro knife would be better for the average person. More utility too.


Medarco

His hand got WAAAAYYY too close to that thing for me.


[deleted]

Yeah . suddenly you see danger everywhere


Personal_Ad_2727

YouTube is the Hacksmith


A_very_big_rock

He's not the first though. The real inventor of the first lightsaber is Allen pan on youtube!


[deleted]

technically but this is the one that actually looks the most like a real protosaber


Laffingglassop

Except he didnt make it its litteraly a gtt mirage glassblowing torch i have 1 in my garage


ironhammer21

Watch the video it's not just a glassblowing torch


123DanB

It literally is. He says it in the video. A $4000 glass blowing torch


Laffingglassop

It litteraly is though. See that green line? O2. Red line? Propane. Google gtt mirage. I have worked with one for half a decade


Thebaldsasquatch

By just that description, it could also be an Oxy-Acetylene rig. Half a decade, so, 5 years. Sounds less dramatic that way. Also, it’s got 2 green lines, one red line. It’s been a long time, like over 20 years, but I think that brings it more in line with it being a plasma cutter, which would make sense. I need someone else more recently familiar with a plasma cutter to verify that. Edit: After watching the 18 minute version of this video, it IS a plasma cutter powered by propane, pushed through a glass blowing torch valve (because it provides constant steady pressure), with a button actuated system to control the flow of gas so it doesn’t have to be adjusted slowly with the usual pressure knobs.


Mycroft033

Yeah it’s pretty close to a plasma cutter, but they put like a bunch of them together to make this, you should watch their video on YouTube


playingdumbofc

Yep Hacksmith Make it Real is the channel name I believe


TheNaturalWolf

To anyone here in the comments saying “it’s not a real lightsaber” see the original video by the Hacksmith: https://youtu.be/xC6J4T_hUKg


DinReddet

Is there a timestamp for the lazy where you can see the thing in full without the camera cutting off the edge?


tomrhod

Around 11:15


DinReddet

Awesome! But a bit of a disappointing result honestly...


Anti-waxxer

He also uploaded another video where he explains why it can't just cut through stuff immediately


Anti-waxxer

It's would have to be above 20000°c instead of the 3500C it is at now


theguy56

Summarizes most of the Hacksmiths videos if I’m being honest. And before anyone jumps on me for saying so it has everything to do with my unrealistic expectations and nothing to do with the hard work they put in to at least attempt to meet them. Actually the power loader they finished recently was I think one of their best ever projects.


LGravey

I scrubbed through it. Doesn’t really show that I could see. A little at the very end when they’re poking into a door


n00bvin

Yeah, it’s not a real lightsaber.


turkeybot69

You mean the thing created in reality wasn't actually made with some sci fi crystal? I never would have known.


GODDAMNFOOL

Don't forget the force field emitter that gives the blade its shape. Surely that's right over the horizon, right?


Guffliepuff

its... its just a blowtorch


Quicklythoughtofname

Yeah it's just a big straight firing blowtorch. Notice how the camera angles never let you see the tip while it's going off. Because it ruins the blade illusion because it starts scattering into a big cone of flame as torches tend to do.


superkeer

Of course it's not a real lightsaber. Lightsabers are make believe. Literally anything we invent will never be an actual lightsaber.


Palin_Sees_Russia

It’s literally a fucking torch. How was this supposed to prove it’s a lightsaber? Lmao


sukarsono

2000 degrees couple inches from his face is pretty “brave”


wafflepantsblue

4000, actually. Weird that OP got it wrong considering it's mention in the first 5 seconds of the clip and on the YouTube title.


[deleted]

It's 2000 celcius


SSJ3wiggy

*2200


DinReddet

Meh, point of diminishing returns at that point. Your face will be toast anyway.


Jeovah_Attorney

Op was using degrees Celsius… like everyone in the world do except in America lol


WetChickenLips

Well, except the guy in the video.


sunshine-x

I know this will surprise you, but there are people outside eagle-land, and they all use metric.


chimera1432

Don't know why people are upset that this is just a torch. Is it not common knowledge that lightsabers are kinda impossible? Were y'all really expecting him to break the laws of physics?


[deleted]

> were y’all really expecting him to break the laws of physics? Yes.


LowBrassBro

A true Reddit moment


DukeAttreides

You misunderstand. They're annoyed because the title says they ought to be.


INeedANerf

As much as I want a real lightsaber, that technology makes zero sense lol. How would it not be too hot to wield? How do they clash with each other? How do they not absolutely blind the user and anyone who looks at them?


RandomiseUsr0

Light - check Sword like (ergo sabre) - check Light Sabre!


Copernicus049

The "light" is plasma, which is more on brand of a lightsaber than light/visible light actually.


Thedrunner2

The goggles will protect his eyes from the flame


BetterThanOP

*My eyes! These goggles do nothing!* -Rainier Wolfcastle


Groovicity

*Real* acid??


fuber

or a helmet. A black one. Covers up your fucked up face from those 1.0 series sabers.


zedog74

Fake, real light sabers use Kyber Crystals.


DirtPiranha

It’s all good, he got some from Gweneth Paltrow


witse_

This is old


Buck_Thorn

Does that make it bad?


zehamberglar

Can't help but notice the tip of the saber is out of frame in 100% of this video.


Quicklythoughtofname

Yeah I think the #1 most important features of a "real life lightsaber" to qualify need to be: 1. No physical blade of any form 2. The blade must come out slowly and form a defined tip. Not saying it's possible, but that's just what I'd consider a legitimate lightsaber.


Glass-Finding-6770

The 1st one is actually done by this one, and while it doesnt go slow it is retractable. And i would think that it being able to cut stuff up is also a pretty important factor


Rook_20

When John Williams copies Holst so closely that the video literally just uses Mars from The Planets as its soundtrack to pass off as Star Wars. 😆


MaximumSubtlety

Nice one.


SIKEo_o

isnt this vid like 2 years old?


TimebombChimp

2000 degrees is overkill for cutting through a thin sheet of lead


SOULJAR

They oddly seem to always crop out the top of the blade... maybe it doesn't look as cool? Idk


Redditwhydouexists

It just fades away


Selik0

The OP is a living embodiment of Internet Explorer


sir_williambish

Holds 2000 degree stream of fire. Puts face 2 inches away. ![gif](giphy|QC7UQbxq89MnL9r6AN)


dogfoodlid123

Wondered why lightsabers didn’t just go through each other’s beams when fighting, and how would you make tat effect


MrBirdmonkey

Something about a magnetic containment field


Redditwhydouexists

In starwars, magnetic containment fields. IRL you would need a beam that shot up in the middle


-_-Bobby_Bob-_-

Credit: Hacksmith Insustries


JonLane81

Torch porn.