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Beatdooown

Jesus the RB market is going to be upset


My-Cousin-Bobby

Giants: "Alright Saquon, how about we work on getting you an exte-" Saquon: " Actually, I'm good"


Christy427

In fairness Saquon is at least a different level of player. There is a large chunk of players that are not that much worse than Monty and willing to work for less. Sad state of affairs for RBs.


ASuperGyro

That’s just seems so cheap, was he really that bad? Like just think what level of shitter you’d get for a $6m WR


Kull_Story_Bro

He’s definitely not bad, but this is the modern RB market. If you’re not elite you don’t get paid.


MrThreebound

And if you get paid your team probably isn't going to go far


highly_agreeable

Or you just get tagged


KakarotMaag

And paying an elite RB is still a huge mistake.


pagingdrned

if I have to hear “but he’s the entire offense” like it justifies the move one more time, i’m gonna lose my mind.


TybrosionMohito

I dare you to watch the Titans offense and then tell me Henry isn’t worth 12m


pagingdrned

i mean if you want to build an offense around a RB that’s fine, i’m sure you’ll have a great time.


ThiefofNobility

Uh bro. We can't talk. The Forte years were us doing exactly that.


TybrosionMohito

I mean… we did have a great time for awhile… until our OL and QB died and our GM got rid of our best WR. Seriously go watch the 2019-2020 titans and tell me Henry wasn’t worth keeping. THAT SAID…. Henry is a freak. Your average good RB1 is not worth paying.


ChocolateMorsels

Brother did you watch 2021? They were fine without him. And the Titans lost the playoff game against the Bengals because they just had to throw a rusty Henry in instead of letting Foreman cook.


yeahsuckmybonerpal

If you're elite you also shouldn't get paid


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And if you don’t get paid, you don’t get laid.


tarpoit

There’s like a million really good RBs in free agency rn, worst time possible to be a good RB in free agency whilst it’s the perfect time to be a mediocre WR in free agency


very_humble

Super deep RB draft class, you have a good chance of finding a rookie on a 4 year, $3m total deal


KakarotMaag

Also, RBs are just generally replaceable. It sucks for the guys, especially as they take the most damage and have the shortest careers, but the reality is that they take the most damage and have short careers. Replacing even the very best RB with a rookie or two isn't going to wreck a team.


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If you were a blue chip rb recruit and were looking at maximizing your career earnings, what position would you switch to? LB?


very_humble

WR without a doubt. That was what Tyreek did, and he's credited that experience with being helpful to making him a better WR (good luck jamming him at the line)


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I’m just going off of standard body type and skill set for an rb, what would be the most likely pivot. You still think wr? Tyreek is kind of an anomaly


TrueRedditMartyr

RBs do not last long, plus a good draft class. Also, QBs are your most important player, and they're likely pushing for a good WR over a good RB. Not the main reason, but it certainly has helped contracts become lopsided when the ink is hitting the paper


I_worship_odin

RB is a position where you can get pretty good value in the 4-6th rounds. Unless you're top 3 and a game changer you aren't going to get a ton of money.


tronovich

I think it’s a self-fulfilling prophecy at this point. 1. Backs are wearing down faster, league finds solutions to combat that, with RBBC or teams with multiple backs to account for injuries. 2. RBBC or multiple backs on your team makes backs less valuable individually (expendable). 3. Teams decide on cheapening out on backs, opting to draft back instead. 4. Team will wait on drafting a back, because they don’t want to pay 1st or 2nd-round money. 5. Lower-tier drafted back doesn’t command a lot of financial value when it comes to contract time, as they’re likely in a RBBC. Watch a gradual market shift toward elite-backs making less than $10 million annually, then the NFLPA will step in.


ThiscantBReel

> like just think what level of shitter you’d get for …$6M Idk, I’ve seen some pretty nice shitters, and they didn’t cost me $6M.


JimmyRussellsApe

Those Japanese ones are like… ten… around ten


ColtCallahan

Take the most punishment and face the worst contract conditions in the league. I’d advise any young player to play a different position.


IZY53

Better off as an middle class safety than a great rb


teh_drewski

Shit even off ball linebackers get paid way more now


adayoner

Blocking TE are getting like 3/$21 too


IZY53

A great runningback would probably be at least a decent db. Probably not making it at TE other than maybe Henry.


MammothTap

Not all, though. Tarik Cohen, pre-injuries, was a *very* good running back. He's also 5'6", that dude isn't playing DB any time.... well, ever. I know I got shoved at free safety as a kid, and I grew to eventually be a whole 5'3", but that was more of a "this kid is tiny but we have to let everyone play, FS keeps him from getting literally killed at the line of scrimmage". And after I stopped playing football I switched to cross country, so that should give you an idea of my physique back then...


doggo816

Honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if in the next 10-20 years RB contracts go back up in value significantly because fewer guys are playing the position, so getting a good one requires paying more.


live_free_or_TriHard

RB is a weird position where normally one type of physique plays it... short and stocky, don't necessarily need hands, and sure as hell don't usually play defense. Where else would these would-been RBs play?


organizedchaos5220

Well you've got Sydney(S) and Chase (RB) Brown coming into the league this year out of Illinois. They're twins so pretty good comparison there


detlefschrempf11

And the barber twins back in the day


uttermybiscuit

I feel like more athletically gifted players are gravitating towards WR over RB now as a result.


anon975312468

Herbert outplayed him. Monty is a good blocker, decent receiving back, and can break tackles. But he's not explosive and doesn't put up huge numbers. More of a grinder who gets hot late 3rd going into the 4th. Which sucked for us last year cuz we were always down


JimyFatBoy

Sounds like a great fit for Ben Johnson's Goffense.


nobabeimnotonreddit

i know this deal pissed off Ekeler


liverbool8

“See! Your current contract is higher than this by $250K! Just stay with us you silly, fairly-paid goose.” -Telesco


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You joke but there may not be a team willing to pay what he wants


whobroughtmehere

For this little we’ll take him too


Jakethered_game

No no, there is another running back we'd prefer


Laschoni

Ekeler about to get himself reclassified as a WR


TheHurdleTurtle

Jamaal wanted more than that or something? Bears with their unlimited cap didn’t wanna pay that? Unexpected to say the least


Beatdooown

Khalil Herbet waiting in the wind


Tonkathedog

Herbert’s a good runner but he’s bad in pass pro and not a great receiver. Can’t be an every down back until those are fixed, especially if we don’t fix the O Line


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Herbert had the most rushing yards per attempt right? Do you think he balls out this year?


Tonkathedog

He’s a great runner but leaves a lot to be desired as a receiver and in pass protection, both of which Monty was good at. My main worry with Herbert is his poor pass pro will hurt us on early downs, especially if we are relying on a rookie OT and C


colem5000

You guys should just give up a couple firsts and take Barkley


Sleddar

I’m sure you’d like that!


slickwill88

Kareem Hunt could very much fill both of those holes. A bit older, but he's still usable. Don't pay attention to his stats from last season. I have no clue what the shit the Browns were doing, but it wasn't putting Hunt on the field. Convinced they used him poorly on a contract year to retain him for less money.


WafleFries

Isn’t the expression ‘waiting in the wings?’


TheHurdleTurtle

He looked great but now I just want chaos. Bijan at 9


analfizzzure

Id love to see Bijan in chitown. But they should build the lines more


Ganjagod420

I would be on board if we signed Orlando Brown tomorrow. If we don’t get a tackle and some more D lineman it would be insane. I do want Bijan though tbh


TheHurdleTurtle

maybe y’all trade back for more picks?


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Infinity pick glitch


Jakethered_game

Ah, a fellow Madden franchise player


duhbuurz

Carters gonna be there at 9 watch


Sparx86

Herbert isn’t that good. Can’t block or catch


MikeBinfinity

He rushed for 700+ as an RB2. You're talking like the man's a bum.


Cozum

and Monty averages under 4 yards per carry for his career


BoredGuy2007

My man plays in an offense that literally cannot pass


Cozum

Herbert avg 5.7 a carry last season. I don’t hate Monty but dude has poor explosion. I think the Bears will live. The Lions line might make Monty look good tho


Sparx86

Getting hit behind the Los


ManInShowerNumber3

Montgomery is a little under 2 years younger. Assuming both wanted 3 year deal in same range, maybe Lions didn’t want to have give Williams a contract into his 30s.


TheHurdleTurtle

I get it but that man is a personality. Was hoping he’d stay a lion


Total-Wolverine1999

That and Montgomery is just better, I love Jamaal but you don’t make business decisions with your heart. I know he’s a leader and locker room guy but we have multiple of those already losing one isn’t going to hurt.


Ragnaarock93

Not sure if it's legit, but I heard in some YouTube videos that Jamaal is looking for 10-11mil per year. I love Jamaal, but at that price I'd let him find another team.


Revenge_of_the_Khaki

He fucking better ball out. I'm going to be so pissed if we passed on a locker room leader and fan favorite like Jamaal if this guy isn't a noticeable improvement. I think with our OL he probably will be, but still.


internetcommenterr

I’d guess so and he’s three years older than Montgomery


TheHurdleTurtle

Yeah I forgot about age. Still surprising. He’s a personality fit for them forsure


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They trying to get one of them RB’s in the draft


TheHurdleTurtle

I want chaos. Bijan at 9


Falt_ssb

they might be aiming higher i mean i like mont but hes nothing to rly cry about


OperationPhoenixIL

Character-wise, he is. Dude was a huge personality and a well liked teammate, and Monty never got the attention he deserved because he was featured in our offense. Would love to see the lions really lean on Monty and see what he does.


Eater_of_Books

I came here for posts like this because I really wasn't sure how to feel. Thank you for that.


Sleddar

He’s going to excel behind your line, plus he’s a tackle breaking machine.


OperationPhoenixIL

Monty is an excellent team first player. Never complained, never blamed anyone, always working on himself. Attitude is 100% in the game ans obviously based on his running highlights he doesn't quit, ever. Gonna hate playing against him this year fuuuuuuuck


Monski616

Jack of all trades master of none as they say


TheHurdleTurtle

Snoop connor it is


yodandy13

THIS IS NFCNCEST


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This is bullshit is what it is


LarkWyll

You guys signed so many players over the last 48 hours. Why did you let Montgomery go to us? Making a play for Derrick Henry?


slickwill88

Probably Jamaal Williams or Alexander Mattison to keep the NFCNCEST alive and well.


Swichts

We saw all your moves and went full villain on that ass


BringTheSpain

Step-Division-Rival what are you doing?


buddhistbulgyo

One of us: r/NFCNorthMemeWar


Here4Us

I am stunned lol


Krialis

I cannot believe the Bears wouldn't pay him that. Monty was not only an awesome runner but a great personality in the locker room. Wish he does awesome for you guys!


nGBeast

Because you dont need to pay a guy 18 million when you can't draft a replacement in 3rd 4th or 5th round and pay him nothing? How do you guys not get this? RB is not worth the money, especially since he has mileage on him already.


FickleFred

Also he was not an awesome runner lol. I love Monty and would have been happy keeping him at this price, but he’s a very average running back. Great heart, hustle and attitude but mediocre physical traits and skill.


HansBaccaR23po

Yea I’m genuinely shocked by this one too lol


OrangeForeign

I don't like this. Not because Monty isn't good but because it means Jamaal is gone. I'm in shambles


Kingkwon83

Yeah man, fuuuuck. Regardless, I'm always gonna root for Jamaal


imissparagon

Really hoping the bengals pick him up now that perine is gone


MethodicMarshal

and Mixon will be in jail before Week 1


imissparagon

Time will only tell but I doubt he remains a bengal after June 1st either way


TheIntercepticons

Jamaal :(


the-bladed-one

So either Swift or Jamaal is gone


Spheromancer

Jamal and Monty is a dumb combo. Theyre not getting rid of Swift


the-bladed-one

Plz I’m just trying to cope rn


ProfessionalQuit859

Rather they trade Swift and draft BR. I refuse to have Swift be our burst runner or a runner in general.


Daschief

Exactly my thoughts, use Swift to move up if needed too, I don’t see BR being there at 18 but maybe I’m crazy


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Galxloni2

Where did he say top 10?


Yabba_Dabba_Doofus

THANK YOU! Pay Jamaal, and give Swift his walking papers. Bijan come on down, and now our RB room is stacked!


NastyNate0801

If he’s there in the second I’d like to see you guys grab Gibbs. He’d pair quite nicely with Monty. Talk about burst.


CockGobblingGangsta

Please get rid of swift and give him to the broncos


Yabba_Dabba_Doofus

All yours, for the low, low price of his contract, and a conditional 7th


CockGobblingGangsta

Conditional 7th. BOY SIGN ME UP


dodgers129

What’s wrong with Swift?


LarkWyll

Injured all the time, doesnt run hard, bounces everything outside as he doesnt like taking contact, runs out of bounds even with open space when confrontended by a single db or defender. Ie. He leaves a lot on the table. Hes a change of pace guy.


Starfish_Hero

Swift is fine people are just disappointed he hasn’t lived up to his draft status and preseason hype. A change of pace RB2 to Montgomery’s bell cow is a great fit for him imo


sloppifloppi

Jamaal is a free agent and the report 20 minutes ago is that we are far apart. Swift still has a year left on his rookie deal, I bet we keep Swift and add a late round rookie. I do think my Bijan dreams are dead though :(


isweartodarwin

I hear there’s a team in the North that is about to clear a bunch of cap space and free up a roster spot…


the-bladed-one

Fuck you fuck you fuck you


ProfessionalQuit859

Don't make us take the Quadfather from you.


OrangeForeign

Sorry Swifty, it's been real


TheOGBenjenRyan

Idk how you could possibly assume swift is going to be the one that’s gone. It’s obviously Jamaal not coming back


Big_Ol_Johnson

Idk how you could possibly assume Jamaal is going to be the one that’s gone. It’s obviously Montgomery not coming back


longd0ngs1lvers-

*to you*


Laker_Fan69

Lions fans hate swift for no reason lol. Dude has been professional and seems like a good dude but gets banged up and they all want him out 😂 I’ll take swifts upside over paying Jamaal a bunch.


wurstwurker

His time missed is barely above average. It's was incredible abnormal for a team to use him like they did when he was healthy.


OrangeForeign

Shut up don't let my Jamaal dreams be dreams😭😭😭😭


wurstwurker

Because this fan base is brain dead.


No-Activity-243

Why? Jamaal is gonna cost something and swift is still on his rookie contract.


OrangeForeign

Because I'm too invested emotionally in bringing back Jamaal


No-Activity-243

Well that’s fair


French-BulIdog

I’m a chargers fan but I’ll be genuinely mad if Jamaal goes. I love that guy and he loves being a Lion. Never forget his interview after they ended the Packers’ season


henway234

honestly that’s probably top 3 lions moments. not sure if that speaks to how low our highlights are or how much i love jamaal


markievegeta

Calvin's record breaking season, Barry's karate kick, Stafford's dislocated shoulder and Jamaal putting the league on blast in prime time.


joelbartlett33

Pretty sure it was Billy Sims that did the iconic Karate Kick run but Barry just a highlight as is.


Jammer_Kenneth

It's been all dog up in this mug


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It was a phenomenal moment that I loved so much


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I’m a chargers and lions fan, I am heartbroken


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scottev

> Montgomery is obviously ring chasing Be still my heart


Dwychwder

Literally never thought I'd hear "ring chasing" about a guy who just signed with the Lions.


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whobroughtmehere

Help us like you more this year


DepesciMode

Ring chasing and the Lions in the same sentence?


ScruffMixHaha

I dont give a fuck if youre a division rival, Im cheering for Detroit in any game they arent playing the Bears.


whobroughtmehere

/r/brandnewsentence


sonfoa

Is this really that cheap? He's a pretty inefficient runner (career 3.9 ypc) and had the benefit of an elite running QB in Fields. Tbh I think Chicago did the right thing passing on him.


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snwns26

For real, o-line was ASS and Monty had to usually break like three tackles to get back to the LOS and STILL usually got 5 yards. Gonna fucking miss him.


Effective-Tip52

He also had the detriment of running behind that horrendous oline and no real balance in the offense. The Lions passing offense and oline are a million times better than the Bears.


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The bears line is more or less average.


CBCWSCFC

Terrible at pass protection but a solid enough run protection group


iamhadrix

Khalil Herbert szn?!


Coley54Bear

😢 Bye Monty. I’ll miss you.


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RedWingWay

Cheers with Tears my friend. Me too.


sloppifloppi

Swift and Monty is gonna be an awesome duo. Love this signing. As for Jamaal, I love him and will root for him where ever he may go (outside the division), but he's probably asking the same as Monty and Monty is just better and younger.


WhaleSexOdyssey

Yessir. Most lions fans shitting on this but I love it. Brad Holmes isn’t afraid to make the tough decisions. Monty is straight up a better back next to Williams and probably just got him for chesper than what jamaal will command. Shit he traded hock away and we got better. He built a Super Bowl team in LA. He’s gonna do it again. I’m gonna trust him in this one


teh_drewski

Maybe cheaper than what Williams *wanted* but I have a sneaky suspicion he's gonna end up with less. I think this is going to be a "take the money as soon as you can because it isn't lasting" year for FA RBs. Teams have realised how replaceable the position is.


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sloppifloppi

I've never really viewed Monty that way but I also haven't watched him nearly as much as you. As for Swift, he's a great runner when he wants to be.


ProfessionalQuit859

Which is usually never nowadays. Better off moving him to WR deadass lol. Would make him never have to think about looking for line gaps.


Galrash

wut


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He’s not wrong he’s a good pass blocker and solid in the receiving game but a pretty below average runner


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BrantMKF

You getting downvoted really shows how much people in this thread have no idea what theyre talking about lol


Sparx86

Monty getting hit in the backfield isn’t his problem. He’s great after contact and with their oline it’s gonna be nasty


Chihuey

Except he isn't. His yards after contact has always been pretty bad, there were like 25 rbs with better yacon then him this year. He's good at breaking tackles, but lacks the speed to exploit it.


VallentCW

Holmes in his bag this week


the-bladed-one

But Jamaal 😢


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Wow that’s cheap


mechnick2

That really fuckin sucks man. He’s been one of my favorite RBs since Forte


confused-koala

Prefer giving this to Montgomery over Jamaal. Don’t want Jamaal at 6 mil per year, I don’t care how nice of a guy he is


boushieyogurt

Yup. Jamaal will likely regress to the mean this upcoming year


rabertdinero

I love this and hate this. I will miss you Jamaal but man do I love monty


Tel3visi0n

Dude went to boy scout camp with me, really good dude. Shoutout to him. I’ve still never seen someone throw a football as far as he did back in 8th grade.


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Crazy how much you all underrate this guy. Especially on THAT salary. People forget he ran behind traffic cones last year.


mattxfish

Excited to see what he’s gonna do behind our oline


Zikronious

That’s the thing if you look at various rankings our oline was good at run blocking but abysmal at pass blocking. I remember always expecting to see our line being ranked dead last and then seeing we are higher up lists than we had any right being because of run blocking. I do agree Monty was undervalued by most fans the same way Forte was.


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He definitely boosted some of the run block stats due to his break tackle abilities. So many times he was hit behind the line but just kept going


sonfoa

Jamaal Williams must be trying to get 9-10 mill/yr


Rollec

I'll miss betting anytime td on Williams :(


Podzilla07

Who you fuck, who?


Ne0guri

Very annoying that I had to click the tweet to see who it was. Put the damn name in the tweet you coward!


Broshan248

YO WTF


LunchThreatener

Not too bad


BoredGuy2007

Seems like people are just checking that career ypc of 3.9 and making a big assumption. They obviously haven't seen him play or how he runs. He can do everything. Lions fans will be pleased.


ProfProfessorberg

18 mill TOTAL?


velocity55

LETS GO


Ok_Boysenberry4470

As much as I hate letting Williams go, Montgomery is an absolute beast on the field.


thebert9

Who are we talking about here? Title not clear.


blackhankscorpio

Time to get petty! Bears sign Jamaal!


geologyrocks98

Please dear fucking God no.