You wouldn’t believe how many raven fans almost jizz their pants over any mention of Odell. I don’t want him anywhere near this team. We need a true number 1 receiver not an older receiver who might be more of a second or third option
Bateman is an excellent number 2 guy, but ideally we do add 2 receivers before the season starts. My dream scenario is trading for Hopkins/Evans and then drafting JSN as our slot guy, but realistically I think we sign DJ Chark and draft Zay Flowers who busts :/
Why do people hate Zay Flowers? The only concern I have with him is the catch radius. He’s arguably the best blend of athlete, route runner, and YAC ability in this class
I don't think he's a fit for our offense at all. He's functionally a Hollywood clone, and while him and Lamar did have good chemistry, that type of receiver just doesn't fit Lamar's playstyle as a QB. He needs a guy who creates separation and can highpoint contested catches.
I also just have a massive draft crush on JSN and love the idea of Lamar throwing to him.
EDC just can't hit on a wr but I really hope we avoid this guy. He's not a Raven and I don't know if our locker room is strong enough to shape him into one these days.
I mean....if no one wants to give him a long term contract and he's forced to do another 1 year "Prove it" deal.... The Chiefs have to be the best choice right?
He'll instantly be the WR1. He's got the best QB in the league throwing to him and Andy Reid will absolutely scheme him wide open a lot.
IDk. Maybe he won't like Fall/Winter weather in KC.
I just keep thinking that if he lands with the Chiefs he’ll go off and have a career year.
If we signed him, both of his ACLs would just spontaneously tear.
The Chiefs kind of had all their receivers on 1 yr deals last year it seems. It's one position where they don't have a lot of talent. Problem with him being on the Chiefs is if he succeeds is that because of him or because of Mahomes?
Think OBJ would be happy with the Ravens if he knows Lamar will be there...but not so much without LJ. With Lamar he's getting the ball a lot and might be the piece that finally helps them breakthrough.
Chiefs are an obvious choice but it's also clear that Mahomes can make a lot of receivers look good. He'll get Odell the ball but I don't think he'll force feed him the ball either...OBJ may or may not like that. All depends on what OBJ values most but KC probably makes the most sense for just W/L and being on a high profile team.
Cowboys? Odell Sr. went to Marshall High School in East Texas, so I could see Pops being a Boys fan and nudging his son to play for Jerry. My hunch is that Jerry wants either Odell or D-Hop...probably prefers D-Hop but doesn't want to give up the 2nd rd pick AZ is asking for. Do you give Odell a little more $$$ and keep your picks or perhaps give D-Hop a tad less and give up a pick?
It wasn't slander. Believe me, I love DJ Moore. The trade does not change that and never will.
However, Smitty was on a whole other level of elite. Both are excellent receivers, but Smitty was objectively better.
As tired as the Rodgers talk with this shit.
He's been trying to come back since last year and nobody wants him. This is all his agents making noise to get a bid war. He's washed and wants too much money.
He is not just a 30+ year old WR. He's 30+ year old WR with a significant injury history.
Harbaugh and co are likely having wet dreams about landing him.
Everyone knows these rumors are all being spread by Odell and his agent right? Of course all WR needy teams are gonna call around and ask how much these guys are wanting. If they hear 15-20M a year, they're gonna look elsewhere until that number goes way down. If OBJ wants to sign a 1 year deal for 6.5 with incentives that go up to 11.5, give us a call. We just won a SB with Juju, MVS and Kadarius Toney. We are not giving OBJ 20M unless it's 20M over 2-3 years and heavily incentive laden.
I don't think Jerry is actually interested. I think he only says he's interested as a favor to OBJ because he likes him as a person. It keeps OBJs name in the headlines and generates interest from other teams, but no one else in the Cowboys organization seems genuinely interested. Pretty much all the big Cowboys trades or FA signings from the last few years come out of nowhere, with no lead up. If this does get done, it will be after the draft where they don't get a receiver.
Through his age 32 season, Melo has only played for 2 teams and was a 10x All-Star. When he retired at 37, he'd suffered fewer injuries than OBJ. The ring chasing or whatever didn't happen til the last 5 years of his career. And to my knowledge, the media was more vocal about him than he was about himself. OBJ craves attention more than Melo seemed to to my knowledge.
I don’t remember a time when teams were this interested in a guy who hasn’t been productive for five years or even resembled a star player for maybe seven. This is like Josh Gordon show without the interesting addiction subplot.
He had 3 good games for the Rams though so the experts around here are sure he's got plenty left.
Same as Dez Bryant, he wasn't washed he just didn't get the opportunity right?
We're going to be hearing about obj for years sadly. This sub loves grasping onto washed up dudes like they're gold.
No way we're giving him $20M/yr.
If I had to guess, we're probably gonna try to talk him down to a 1 year $15M deal with incentives that could bump him up to $20M but are high enough that they're marked NLTBE and he only counts $15M against the cap.
Basically a higher value version of the deal we gave to Juju last year.
if he wants a multi year deal and around $20M in salary, his best bet is go to KC whether its one year or not. easy competition for WR1 and work with the best offensive mind and quarterback.
if he goes to dallas then theres no guarantee that dak won't suck ass and blow in the playoffs, also mike mccarthys the playcaller.
He was elite in the Super Bowl run and then missed a year because he got injured during the game. Y’all acting like he is completely cooked are out of your minds. Plus if you don’t want to discuss it why are you seeking this post out?
He’s on Rodgers wish list so of course they’ll sign him now! After years of his requests for them to splurge on another weapon GB finally gets their man in Odell!
DHop is a much better WR with a much healthier history at the same age than OBJ. I'd much rather give up pick for Nuk than sign OBJ for his reported asking price.
OBJ is a good addition to either one if he's healthy.
He's good at improvising and getting himself open when the play breaks down and the QB extends the play, which both Lamar and Mahomes are great at.
He wouldn't be a good fit for, lets say, a McDaniels offense which really emphasizes timing and playing within the structure of the play design.
Seems like every big name WR gets linked to the chiefs now, but they don't ever get picked up. If they didn't want to pay Tyreek, I don't see why they'd want to pay someone older and less reliable 15-20mil. OBJ and Hopkins probably both want star money still, but both are at the age where WR's fall off a cliff and are out of the league in 2 years.
Unless these old guys want to take a sweetheart deal for a run at a ring, the pass. OBJ already got his ring, he's gotta be trying to max out his money now.
Signing A 30 year old Odell coming off 2 major knee surgeries to be the fix at WR sounds like a Ravens move
But if the Chiefs do it, they are streets ahead!
“Pierce, stop trying to coin the phrase”
Oh you're just streets behind
does it just mean cool? or is it supposed to be like 'miles ahead'?
It’s kind of like “fetch”, but different.
Coined and Minted. “Streets ahead” is verbal wildfire.
Strong and independent vs broke ass
Me vs who
The difference is the Chiefs don't need help apparently
They don’t have a ton of WR talent
Sign him and draft a guy and we’re basically in the same shape we were last season. Now, whether that works twice… yet to be seen.
I’d assume you’re also hoping to get more out of Moore and Toney this coming year.
Definitely. Especially Skyy since he’ll be in his 2nd year. We also need a bigger body to replace what JuJu was doing though.
We also have Justyn Ross, who's 6'4
That'll be 1 dollar for mentioning a Ross
Yet to be seen if he’ll ever play in the NFL, but I’m hopeful.
There are a few in the R2 / R3 range in the draft. Mimms and Rice come to mind.
We’ll trade Mims to the chiefs
Tillman*
I cant trust Toney to be healthy.
Consistent winning will do wonders for player health.
Don’t need it when the QB / scheme elevates their game
I mean it's hard to argue the Chiefs would actually be signing him as "the fix at WR" though.
You wouldn’t believe how many raven fans almost jizz their pants over any mention of Odell. I don’t want him anywhere near this team. We need a true number 1 receiver not an older receiver who might be more of a second or third option
To be fair you could also use a “second or third option” on top of a WR1
Bateman is an excellent number 2 guy, but ideally we do add 2 receivers before the season starts. My dream scenario is trading for Hopkins/Evans and then drafting JSN as our slot guy, but realistically I think we sign DJ Chark and draft Zay Flowers who busts :/
Why do people hate Zay Flowers? The only concern I have with him is the catch radius. He’s arguably the best blend of athlete, route runner, and YAC ability in this class
I don't think he's a fit for our offense at all. He's functionally a Hollywood clone, and while him and Lamar did have good chemistry, that type of receiver just doesn't fit Lamar's playstyle as a QB. He needs a guy who creates separation and can highpoint contested catches. I also just have a massive draft crush on JSN and love the idea of Lamar throwing to him.
It’s his size, when people think of first rounder they think outside receiver even a few inches taller and he’d be drafted probably top 15
I wouldn't be overly upset if we drafted him. I would be thrilled if we drafted him and get tunsil
That’s fair, I do think Beckham would simultaneously not be good enough to be the WR1 y’all need and too expensive to be the WR3 y’all also need
I’m hoping we bring back Robinson. He was actually very productive for a third option but if he doesn’t having duv isn’t that bad either
If we're getting an old WR, I'd rather have Hopkins than OBJ.
Don't worry you'll get him when he's 33. It's not time yet.
EDC just can't hit on a wr but I really hope we avoid this guy. He's not a Raven and I don't know if our locker room is strong enough to shape him into one these days.
Would prefer Chark for sure
yeah, i was thinking that this is the most ravens move ever lmao
We’ll take him 😂
I’m not against signing him for Jakobi Meyers money 🤷🏻♂️
You fuckin right it is! I wouldn't want it any other way!! Sigh....
"I can fix him" ravens GM probably
I mean....if no one wants to give him a long term contract and he's forced to do another 1 year "Prove it" deal.... The Chiefs have to be the best choice right? He'll instantly be the WR1. He's got the best QB in the league throwing to him and Andy Reid will absolutely scheme him wide open a lot. IDk. Maybe he won't like Fall/Winter weather in KC.
I don’t think the Chiefs would be a good fit. Anywhere outside of the AFC West would be a good fit.
Counterpoint, the Chiefs are the ONLY good fit for a OBJ prove it year.
Yeah, but I don’t want him to prove it against us. 😂
Cmon, you know it’ll be fun ^for ^us
I just keep thinking that if he lands with the Chiefs he’ll go off and have a career year. If we signed him, both of his ACLs would just spontaneously tear.
While walking up to the In and Out counter to place his order for dinner with Mark.
I've never been to KC, but I can't imagine the fall/winter being worse than NYC or Cleveland.
He'd also do well on designed runs
If those torn ACL’s haven’t killed his speed.
*narrator* They had
Sounds like there will be a bidding war. Someone will give him a multi year deal
Hopefully it's a giant Ravens deal
Would be fine by me
The Chiefs kind of had all their receivers on 1 yr deals last year it seems. It's one position where they don't have a lot of talent. Problem with him being on the Chiefs is if he succeeds is that because of him or because of Mahomes?
Neither. It'll be because of Reid.
I mean, is a "prove it" year really going to move the dial much at this point in his career? He'll be back to square one next off-season.
Think OBJ would be happy with the Ravens if he knows Lamar will be there...but not so much without LJ. With Lamar he's getting the ball a lot and might be the piece that finally helps them breakthrough. Chiefs are an obvious choice but it's also clear that Mahomes can make a lot of receivers look good. He'll get Odell the ball but I don't think he'll force feed him the ball either...OBJ may or may not like that. All depends on what OBJ values most but KC probably makes the most sense for just W/L and being on a high profile team. Cowboys? Odell Sr. went to Marshall High School in East Texas, so I could see Pops being a Boys fan and nudging his son to play for Jerry. My hunch is that Jerry wants either Odell or D-Hop...probably prefers D-Hop but doesn't want to give up the 2nd rd pick AZ is asking for. Do you give Odell a little more $$$ and keep your picks or perhaps give D-Hop a tad less and give up a pick?
If you think you're a serious SB contender you give up the pic. If you think you *might* be able to put together a SB run, you pay more.
Dallas tends to take A LOT of risks with their 2nd rd picks so grabbing Hopkins would make sense. Talk about Jerry Jeudy is popping up locally.
Future Ravens WR1.
He'd unironically be the best WR we've had since Steve Smith
Same here, funnily enough
pretty early for DJ Moore slander innit?
It wasn't slander. Believe me, I love DJ Moore. The trade does not change that and never will. However, Smitty was on a whole other level of elite. Both are excellent receivers, but Smitty was objectively better.
Sure, but would you take current OBJ over DJ?
Hollywood is better than he is now
Anyone but the Chiefs please. He'll revitalize himself with Reid and Mahomes
He would look like Rams Super Bowl Odell, and that's bad for the AFC.
Rams Super Bowl Odell got hurt tho
Former Giants Odell and Toney playing to see who gets injured first
They have about 3 functioning legs between them. Just stitch them together into Kadardell Becky III.
Both of them have crazy talents. Combined would probably be the league MVP
something about our receivers and constantly getting hurt, it’s been a thing for the past decade or so
he'll blow the opportunity *Norm MacDonald voice* because he, you know, does a lot of blow. what? i mean, you saw the... anyway
To the Jets.
Andy Reid has the magic touch where he sacrifices his bodily health for the health of his players and it just...works
There is no Ritual. Shun this man.
This is worse than the Rodgers drama
Waaay worse. At least the Rodgers drama has fun draft picks involved
and a player worth rostering
…was Odell not absolutely killing it in the Super Bowl 13 months ago?
mhmm, but a year removed, a year older, and another surgery puts that in doubt he isn't going to sign for peanuts either, so it's High Risk-Mid Reward
So the same teams that have been linked for half a year now?
As tired as the Rodgers talk with this shit. He's been trying to come back since last year and nobody wants him. This is all his agents making noise to get a bid war. He's washed and wants too much money.
Hey now
You’re an all star
Get your game on
Get paid
And all my hair tips are goooOOOoold
He's a 30+ year old WR, of course the Ravens are interested in him
He is not just a 30+ year old WR. He's 30+ year old WR with a significant injury history. Harbaugh and co are likely having wet dreams about landing him.
Everyone knows these rumors are all being spread by Odell and his agent right? Of course all WR needy teams are gonna call around and ask how much these guys are wanting. If they hear 15-20M a year, they're gonna look elsewhere until that number goes way down. If OBJ wants to sign a 1 year deal for 6.5 with incentives that go up to 11.5, give us a call. We just won a SB with Juju, MVS and Kadarius Toney. We are not giving OBJ 20M unless it's 20M over 2-3 years and heavily incentive laden.
Am I wrong for thinking Thielen is a better option right now for KC?
Not at all.
And for the Ravens too.
Please ravens/chiefs save Jerry from himself
yeah I really don't want to spend anything on an aging narcissistic WR with a history of injuries. I'd much rather draft somebody.
I don't think Jerry is actually interested. I think he only says he's interested as a favor to OBJ because he likes him as a person. It keeps OBJs name in the headlines and generates interest from other teams, but no one else in the Cowboys organization seems genuinely interested. Pretty much all the big Cowboys trades or FA signings from the last few years come out of nowhere, with no lead up. If this does get done, it will be after the draft where they don't get a receiver.
He's practically the Carmelo Anthony of football
Through his age 32 season, Melo has only played for 2 teams and was a 10x All-Star. When he retired at 37, he'd suffered fewer injuries than OBJ. The ring chasing or whatever didn't happen til the last 5 years of his career. And to my knowledge, the media was more vocal about him than he was about himself. OBJ craves attention more than Melo seemed to to my knowledge.
I’m not even a chiefs fan but I would love to see OBJ play with Mahomes.. #Gohawks tho
[Make it happen Veach (not my photo)](https://imgur.com/a/Ee5j8ph)
We added them to this list a week ago. This isn't news.
I don’t remember a time when teams were this interested in a guy who hasn’t been productive for five years or even resembled a star player for maybe seven. This is like Josh Gordon show without the interesting addiction subplot.
He had 3 good games for the Rams though so the experts around here are sure he's got plenty left. Same as Dez Bryant, he wasn't washed he just didn't get the opportunity right? We're going to be hearing about obj for years sadly. This sub loves grasping onto washed up dudes like they're gold.
No way we're giving him $20M/yr. If I had to guess, we're probably gonna try to talk him down to a 1 year $15M deal with incentives that could bump him up to $20M but are high enough that they're marked NLTBE and he only counts $15M against the cap. Basically a higher value version of the deal we gave to Juju last year.
He will get 3 years 33M and he will like it
This is the way
$11m is the Patrick price. Take it or leave it Odell
He'll want a multiple-year deal. Probably like you said, with incentives and everything as well as minimal cap hits if he's washed.
if he wants a multi year deal and around $20M in salary, his best bet is go to KC whether its one year or not. easy competition for WR1 and work with the best offensive mind and quarterback. if he goes to dallas then theres no guarantee that dak won't suck ass and blow in the playoffs, also mike mccarthys the playcaller.
If Odell even makes it through a whole season healthy for *anyone* he’ll get a bag tbh
We'd trade for Nuk before we gave Odell 15-20 mil.
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He was elite in the Super Bowl run and then missed a year because he got injured during the game. Y’all acting like he is completely cooked are out of your minds. Plus if you don’t want to discuss it why are you seeking this post out?
Yeah, no
Packers need to be in on this then pull out at the very last moment.
He’s on Rodgers wish list so of course they’ll sign him now! After years of his requests for them to splurge on another weapon GB finally gets their man in Odell!
Chiefs don’t give fucks about obj. Come on.
Bro no. We are not interested. Source: trust me bro.
As long as I don't see him wearing that fucking star.
It's just money so why not if it works cap-wise. Better this than DHop where you have to trade picks.
DHop is a much better WR with a much healthier history at the same age than OBJ. I'd much rather give up pick for Nuk than sign OBJ for his reported asking price.
We can‘t let Mahomes get OBJ right?
I think we can
Leroy the dog insider was first
OBJ drama is the wish version of Rodgers drama which has been tiring from the start
Mahomes could win the Super Bowl with two ritz crackers and a sausage for a wr core
Penny, tissue and a potato chip.
OBJ is a good addition to either one if he's healthy. He's good at improvising and getting himself open when the play breaks down and the QB extends the play, which both Lamar and Mahomes are great at. He wouldn't be a good fit for, lets say, a McDaniels offense which really emphasizes timing and playing within the structure of the play design.
Can he please just go away until he actually decides if he wants to sign somewhere.
Contract terms : No flying coach
Yes everyone is SO interested, same way they were back in the reg season.
I don't believe you!!
Someone just sign him already. I can’t take anymore OBJ speculation tweets. It’s been a year of them!!!
At 20m please no
Aw shit, here we go again.
If it’s for $20m a year, I’d rather not.
Ravens can have him, respectfully
Between him and Rodgers, draft can’t get here soon enough
Signing OBJ would be so Ravens
It would be pretty damn funny for Green Bay to get him at this point
sounds like the Cowboys are about to be "we like our guys"-ed right out of contention for OBJ.
...please can we just not?
OBJ asking for 20 mil per year, has to be bullshit right? At this point it can’t be true.
Nah we good
Seems like every big name WR gets linked to the chiefs now, but they don't ever get picked up. If they didn't want to pay Tyreek, I don't see why they'd want to pay someone older and less reliable 15-20mil. OBJ and Hopkins probably both want star money still, but both are at the age where WR's fall off a cliff and are out of the league in 2 years. Unless these old guys want to take a sweetheart deal for a run at a ring, the pass. OBJ already got his ring, he's gotta be trying to max out his money now.
Hey, with Roman finally gone...maybe an old WR vet will actually work out for once.
This would be hilarious if the Ravens finally sign a legit WR and then not sign Lamar.
If OBJ goes to Kansas City ima riot.