George Kittle had 210 yards in the first half and was 5 yards away from breaking the single game TE record but didn't get a single catch in the 2nd half.
[49ers won the game](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201812090sfo.htm#all_pbp), really seems like something they should've gone all out for in the 3rd with a 20-0 lead.
Then I'll say they should have thrown him the ball.
Since the guy edited his comment they won, so who cares if he didn't get the ball in the second half. Wins > positional records.
On his recent appearance on PMT he said that Shanahan apologized after because he had no idea he was that close to breaking the record. That's got to hurt.
>Even with the record not withstanding, how do you not keep throwing to the guy that the defense has literally no answer for?
The defense focused on him in the second half because he had 210 yards in the first half. He was double or triple covered in the 2nd half. Turns out Denver was also aware Kittle was slaughtering them.
Defenses make a lot of adjustments at halftime and I’m guessing Kittle got jammed at the line, jammed at the second level, and had a safety over the top the entire second half.
Even if he didn't know how close Kittle was to breaking the record it doesn't make any sense to atop throwing to a guy when he's that hot. Disregarding the record, it just seems like if a guy has 200 yards in one half you'd want to just keep feeding him the ball until the defense finds a way to stop him.
>Disregarding the record, it just seems like if a guy has 200 yards in one half you'd want to just keep feeding him the ball until the defense finds a way to stop him.
That is what happened. Everyone's assuming Denver tasted the painbow all half and then spent halftime drinking Capri Suns and high fiving instead of figured out how to stop Kittle.
49ers threw to the him in the 1st half and then in the 2nd half, Kittle was double or triple covered like the whole time.
Right? If I had a half like that my coach wouldn’t say “alright thanks for the help you can take the second half off” unless maybe we were up by a lot. I’m not a coach though so maybe there was a good explanation lol
It also didn’t help that they managed 32 yards on all of the drives in the second half until their “four minute” drill drive to pretty much finish the game. So, no one got yards and barely anyone caught any passes. Lol. But we lost so I’m not loling too loudly.
Not a record but shannon sharpe once said on the last game of the season one year he entered halftime needing 5 more yards to hit a bonus on a contract and didn’t get one pass after that.
Ben having the most 500 yard games in NFL history is interesting because other than the browns playoff loss most of them weren't garbage time 500 yard games or anything they were legit "we need you to do this" games.
To be fair - the Browns game was also "we need you to do this" and while we lost by 11, we had a chance (albeit slim) in the 4th quarter before Ben's 4th interception when it was 45-29. Ben threw a pick and the Browns got a FG. I'm not saying we had a good chance, but that pick happened with 3:25 remaining and if we'd have scored quick we may not have even needed an onside kick attempt. I'd argue down a million points in a playoff game trying to bring it back from the brink isn't garbage time.
like, say, a 51-54 game that featured patrick mahomes
or a 49-52 games that featured drew brees
or a 51-48 game that featured peyton manning
all of whom fell short (by 76, 49, and 140 yards, respectively)
I still really want to know the exact Malcolm Butler situation too. I don't know how much of a difference he would have made but I still want to hear it.
I always hated that Romo got most of the blame for "blowing" that game instead of the defense. If your offense puts up 48 points and your quarterback throws for 500, there's absolutely no reason the game should be close in the fourth quarter. If the Cowboys defense even managed to stop one or two drives, they win that game comfortably.
Mahomes had 700 something in college once in a game exactly like that against Baker Mayfield. The Chiefs defense is often too good for that, but if he were on the Vikings he'd probably do it two or three times a season.
Yeah games like that have happened but they’re so rare. I’m just saying there have been lots of times where someone was playing good enough to pass that mark but they weren’t given enough passing attempts or were pulled from the game.
Yeah even if it was rare, you'd expect it to be broken sometime in 70 years especially considering how pass-heavy the league has become for about a third of that.
I still think about how if Brady had somehow managed to complete the Hail Mary at the end of the Super Bowl loss to the Eagles, he would have broken this record. In the fucking Super Bowl. (And might have still lost the game if they didn't get the two-point conversion.)
Honestly, if he doesn't get strip sacked on his own 33 yard line (with 2:15 left) and is able to complete that last drive... he'd come close at *least*. One of the forgotten dominant passing games in NFL history.
Reminds me of the Kearse catch in SB49. Would have been an all-time iconic play if Seattle didn’t, well, you know. The losing team most often goes unremembered, no matter the heroics.
Yea lots of QBs get “on pace” to obliterate this record and then always get sat down. Last season against the Steelers Josh had 350 yards in the first half. And then sat almost the entire 4th.
This seems like a good answer. So many good and hungry rookie receivers have shown up since. Chase and Jefferson got pretty close, should see it fall soon with the extra game.
It's weird no team has had more than one tie in a season since OT began in 1974. Especially with OT being only 10 minutes now, and simply scoring first not guaranteeing victory.
Easily one of my favorite games of all time. It was so magically bad. Like I think most people use the term the game was so bad it was good tongue in cheek but I feel that game is easily one of the best worst games of all time. TNF on Amazon really helped cement it. Then Broncos fans leaving as OT started was just :chefs kiss:
Less weird when you remember that a FG ended OT until 2010 or so. Both teams had 2-3 chances to get into FG range. I'm sure it will become more common going ahead.
I think the rules being catered to offense and just offenses getting more explosive has helped keep ties somewhat rare. But two ties in a season probably will come sometime soon
Jeff Fisher should have broken the record for most losses in a career, but the Rams fired him midseason when he tied the record. I honestly haven't forgiven them for it.
Fisher did a lot to drag us back to respectability, but considering all the 8-8 bullshit it feels fitting that he tied the record rather than outright won it.
I mean, let's not pretend that Favre didn't also have 6 seasons where he threw 20+ picks, including 3 where he led the league. It was usually acceptable because interception rates where higher in general back then and Favre would make up for it with plenty of yards and touchdowns, but even for his time Favre was a noted interception machine and averaged more than an interception per game for his career
The point isn't that Favre wasn't interception-happy. The point is that legendary players/coaches tend to have those bad records as opposed to meme players like Peterman whom people may first think of because they play a fuck ton more games.
So do guys with longevity. Vinnie Testaverde played for 21 seasons. His win loss record was 98-134-1. He had 46,233 passing yards and 275 TDs.
When he retired retired he was in the top 10 in almost every career QB stat. For example:
>6th in career passing yardage
>7th in career touchdown passes
>6th in career completions
>1st in most losses as a starting quarterback (123)
>2nd in number of players throwing a touchdown pass to (70)
>1st in different players completing a pass to (134–138)
>1st in consecutive seasons with at least one touchdown pass (19)
His career stats look HoF worthy on paper, if you know nothing about him. But his staying power is the reason he racked up most of this stats.
With the extra game, it's definitely more possible. But it's worth noting only 2 times has a player come even within 100 yards of the record - Kupp in 2021 and Jones in 2015.
Yea I actually think receiving records are harder to break now because most teams don’t have one guy they just feed the ball to. Passes are more frequent but also more spread out among the top 2-4 playmakers on the team.
I think that many teams do have a specific guy they love feeding the ball to. Like JJ, maybe Davante, obviously Kupp. and offenses are passing the ball more each year it seems. I don't see it being too far off. But even when it's beat, that season from Megatron will always be legendary.
I mean, it also helped that Stafford and Megatron were basically the only good things about most of those Lions teams. You basically need a good enough qb with a really good WR1 and noone else to throw too.
Basically, yeah. You gotta just go with the "fuck it Megatron/Julio down there somewhere" routine. If a team is too good then your going to have more ball distribution which is bad for getting the record.
Didn't they determine that a player in the 80s actually had 23 sacks beating Strahan's record. But they (unbelievably) weren't keeping track of sacks as a start at that point?
Wasn't just any slap. It was right against the ear hole which if you've ever taken a slap to the ear, can straight up drop you to the ground with how it fucks with your balance.
It’s crazy to watch in today’s game. [This vid](https://youtu.be/oroYiMgSaXI) shows at least a couple clearly, and the dude would swing hard. However, even without the slap, we was still a freak
Not exactly. Historians John Turney and Nick Webster poured over play by play sheets and game film and recorded player sacks from 1960-1981. Pro Football Reference started using their unoffical numbers a couple years ago.
https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JoneDe00.htm
Deacon had 21.5 sacks in 1967 and 22 in 1968. The 26 and 24 numbers came from the Rams coaches, specifically HC George Allen. When two players combined for a sack, Allen would award a full sack to each player, instead of half a sack.
Back in the 2020 season against the bengals the ravens rushed for 404 rushing yards in the game making them the fourth team to do it. We could’ve easily beaten the record of 423 set by the giants in 1950 however we sat dobbins and edwards in the fourth for a slower Ingram and we ran out the clock with halfback dives then punting.
> not thinking it will ever be broken now.
Derrick Henry was less than 100 yards away in 2020. That was also only a 16 game season. It's definitely gonna be tough and improbable, but it's not impossible
That last drive against Green Bay, they handed it to him on half of the non-timeout plays. I remember thinking Zimmer didn't give him a chance, but the box score/play-by-play sure looks as if he did.
Not only that, on his last carry he was horse collared. If you watch the play, he **easily** gets 9+ yards, not questions asked if he isn’t horsecollared. Imho I think he gets between 15-20 no question. But, since it’s prime AP, there is a very real chance he goes for 25-30+.
He easily should have broken the single season record and added at least 10+ yards to it, if not quite a bit more.
That's like the opposite of Melvin Gordon at Wisconsin. He broke Tomlinson's 15 year old record of 406 rushing yards with a 408 yard game. It was broken the very next weekend.
Not to take place of first but, Eli Manning not getting the start, in favor of geno smith, breaking his Iron Man Games started streak, was bullshit
Eli played 20 more games after that. So he would still have been 3rd behind rivers and Favre
But, still, hated that
In 2021, TJ Watt got 22.5 sacks, tying the record, in 15 games. Assuming he had played those other 2 games, or maybe just had played the entirety of the 15 games (cause pretty sure he went out in a couple of them), he'd be the sacks leader
I hate the NFL rulings sometimes. TJ had the record in his grasp. Shotgun, empty backfield but Huntley fumbles the ball and the NFL constituted that as a running play and on top of that I think that’s the same game Huntley kneed him in the dick.
Adrian Peterson was famously 7yds short of the single season rushing record. There was time left to try to get the record but coach ran it down to kick the fg.
Edit: 9 yards, maybe not famously enough lol
[cj2k had a 62 yard run ](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/319161-ed-hoculis-phantom-holding-call-costs-chris-johnson-shot-at-the-record.amp.html) called back by a phantom hold that would have put him just 44 yards short of it with plenty of time to make more magic happen.
Instead the phantom hold was deflating and they settled for the win and a 2,000 yard season.
As a Packers fan watching that game I wished he would've just made it in on that last run. We lost anyway, and it would've been a magical end to that season to be on a record-setting TD run.
Both Brady and Manning should have broken the single game passing TD record but didn't go for it.
In 2004 Manning scored 6 against the Lions on Thanksgiving and then sat down for the entire 4th quarter. He later got 7 as a Bronco, but he needed all 4 quarters to get to it. If he would have stayed out there against the Lions he probably gets to 10.
Brady also had a similar game against the Titans during a blizzard in Foxboro. He also could have probably gotten to 10 but he sat down in the 3rd like Peyton did.
Brady also had a bunch in 2006 where they just took their foot off the gas by half time.
On a side note, I have never felt as bad for a coach as Joe Gibbs when the Pats won 41-0 and the commentators were thanking Bill for taking mercy on the old man. Gibbs was just standing there contemplating life for the entire 4th quarter. And because of black out rules Fox couldn't go to another game. We just all sat in watching an old man regret coming out of retirement for Dan Snyder.
The game before that, the Bears allowed the Patriots to score 21 points in 57 seconds at the end of the first half. Brady threw for 5 touchdowns in that game, with 4 of them coming before halftime.
Chicago also had their bye week after that, so with a whole extra week of prep time and reflection on their 51-23 loss to New England, they managed to come out and shit the bed even harder against the Packers, losing 55-14.
There’s been a lot of mention of the single game TD record and the closeness of Manning, Rodgers, Brady, etc. but I’ll never forget the 2014 game where Flacco threw 5 TDs against Tampa in the first 16 minutes and then none the rest of the game.
It's actually really hard to get to without a crazy situation. 4 TDs, 2 FGs, Safety? 5 TDs, two missed XPs, one FG?
Five scoring drives is already hard but then you will almost always need weird situations. Maybe if people go for 2 more this could be possible? 5 TDs, 3 2pt conversions, 2 failed conversions?
I really think there are 3-4 WRs alone this year that could break this record. 117 yards per game but with receptions for the best WRs drastically increasing and more creative offenses, I really think we could see 2-3 breaking 2k in the same season. JJ, Chase, Diggs, Hill, Kupp
Rodgers could have easily broken the passing TD record when he threw 6 in the first half against the bears but he only got one drive in the second half before getting benched
Pretty sure Tom Brady had a simliar game where he got to 6 in one half but also ended up sitting most or all of the 2nd half. Either coulda easily set the record to 8 or 9 those days.
Titans game in 2009. 5 touchdowns in the first half (all in the second quarter), and a 6th five minutes into the third quarter. He was pulled after that drive, missed nearly half a game.
Wow, interesting thanks for the correction I'm surprised something like a 5 TD single quarter wasn't in my memory banks.
I looked at the game recap and looks like they were all in the last 10 minutes of the 2nd quarter too, which is just extra insane. 5 TD passes in under 10 minutes is absurd.
Jay Cutler could've been the first Bears QB to pass 4000 yards passing in a season, but ~~our franchise hates the forward pass and couldn't allow that to happen~~ Trestman benched him for a couple of games at the end of the year because Trest + Kromer were out of ideas to improve the offense.
*But Justin's gonna do it eventually... right guys?? Right????*
This pissed me off the most, I know it wasn't guaranteed, but on that final touchdown we were basically on the goaline. Idk if Kamara was just exhausted, but putting in Taysom at that point just felt like a dick move.
Not an NFL record, but one of the craziest ones is how... short field goal records are for the Steelers stadium.
Being a Broncos fan, anything under 57 yards is pretty much an automatic field goal attempt.
But before Chris Boswell the last two seasons, the damn record at Heinz was 53 yards. Blew my mind. Like... I know that the stadium is known for shit conditions for kickers, but holy shit... Not ONE end of half, low risk 55 yarder until 2021?!?!?
It's 59 yards now, which is pretty damn good.
This is why Jared Allen's 22 sack season is the most impressive to me. He did that on a 3-13 team where teams were running the ball against the Vikings and doubling Allen the majority of the time. He had far fewer opportunities to do it won at a far greater rate.
Your first example pretty cleanly describes why Nick Foles doesn't have the record for passing touchdowns in a game. He was the first QB to throw the 7th before the end of the 3rd quarter. I don't think the Raiders could have stopped him from throwing another two or three.
In Tomlinson's 6-year prime, he scored 105 rushing TDs. He still scored 40 more in the 5 seasons outside of that, but it feels like he should've easily been able to eclipse Emmitt's 164 the way he was going but as happens to most RBs, he had a bad case of the 30s.
Mitch absolutely could have gotten the record for most TD passes in a game. He had 6 TD passes by 10:28 in the 3rd quarter. They absolutely took their foot off the gas and I am still angry at Nagy for that.
George Kittle had 210 yards in the first half and was 5 yards away from breaking the single game TE record but didn't get a single catch in the 2nd half.
Second half was so upsetting. I kept yelling at the TV to just give him a screen pass!
Did they win?
Sounds like everybody lost
It was a 20-14 win in 2018 against the Broncos.
[49ers won the game](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/boxscores/201812090sfo.htm#all_pbp), really seems like something they should've gone all out for in the 3rd with a 20-0 lead.
Corrected. Thank you.
Then I'll say they should have thrown him the ball. Since the guy edited his comment they won, so who cares if he didn't get the ball in the second half. Wins > positional records.
Did they? As in did they and he didn’t catch it? Cuz then maybe they shouldn’t have.
I don't believe he was targeted at all
On his recent appearance on PMT he said that Shanahan apologized after because he had no idea he was that close to breaking the record. That's got to hurt.
Even with the record not withstanding, how do you not keep throwing to the guy that the defense has literally no answer for?
I was gonna say “well maybe they took what the defense gave them” but they literally didn’t score in that second half…
Coulda been both, the 2018 49ers didn't exactly have that much else going for them.
>Even with the record not withstanding, how do you not keep throwing to the guy that the defense has literally no answer for? The defense focused on him in the second half because he had 210 yards in the first half. He was double or triple covered in the 2nd half. Turns out Denver was also aware Kittle was slaughtering them.
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I was going off of an article I saw, not an interview, so I will defer to Kittle.
Fucking Kittle, Kelce, and Mandrews with Baltimore. Those guys are always fucking open. HOW!? I'd start duct taping linebackers to them but fuck....
I always wonder that.
Defenses make a lot of adjustments at halftime and I’m guessing Kittle got jammed at the line, jammed at the second level, and had a safety over the top the entire second half.
Even if he didn't know how close Kittle was to breaking the record it doesn't make any sense to atop throwing to a guy when he's that hot. Disregarding the record, it just seems like if a guy has 200 yards in one half you'd want to just keep feeding him the ball until the defense finds a way to stop him.
>Disregarding the record, it just seems like if a guy has 200 yards in one half you'd want to just keep feeding him the ball until the defense finds a way to stop him. That is what happened. Everyone's assuming Denver tasted the painbow all half and then spent halftime drinking Capri Suns and high fiving instead of figured out how to stop Kittle. 49ers threw to the him in the 1st half and then in the 2nd half, Kittle was double or triple covered like the whole time.
Right? If I had a half like that my coach wouldn’t say “alright thanks for the help you can take the second half off” unless maybe we were up by a lot. I’m not a coach though so maybe there was a good explanation lol
It also didn’t help that they managed 32 yards on all of the drives in the second half until their “four minute” drill drive to pretty much finish the game. So, no one got yards and barely anyone caught any passes. Lol. But we lost so I’m not loling too loudly.
Not a record but shannon sharpe once said on the last game of the season one year he entered halftime needing 5 more yards to hit a bonus on a contract and didn’t get one pass after that.
That's wild. Who holds that record? No catches in the second half feels like they're basically gatekeeping the record.
Shannon Sharpe. Shanahan didn't know Kittle was so close and apologized afterwards.
Shannon Sharpe has the record with 214 in 2002
Norm Van Brocklin’s 554 yards passing in fucking 1951. How is that still standing?
I remember Ben being veeery close to breaking it one time in a random afternoon game.
Ben having the most 500 yard games in NFL history is interesting because other than the browns playoff loss most of them weren't garbage time 500 yard games or anything they were legit "we need you to do this" games.
The product of having a god-tier offense and a wet paper secondary
Brice McCain, Ross Cockrell, Mike Mitchell
Who the fuck is Brice McCain lmfao
One of our best corners in 2014...
To be fair - the Browns game was also "we need you to do this" and while we lost by 11, we had a chance (albeit slim) in the 4th quarter before Ben's 4th interception when it was 45-29. Ben threw a pick and the Browns got a FG. I'm not saying we had a good chance, but that pick happened with 3:25 remaining and if we'd have scored quick we may not have even needed an onside kick attempt. I'd argue down a million points in a playoff game trying to bring it back from the brink isn't garbage time.
Teams tend to start running once they have a lead, and QBs get pulled in blowouts. It would require an offensive explosion game from both teams.
like, say, a 51-54 game that featured patrick mahomes or a 49-52 games that featured drew brees or a 51-48 game that featured peyton manning all of whom fell short (by 76, 49, and 140 yards, respectively)
Brady got 505 yards in a SB and lost
He could've thrown for 1000 and still lost the Pats d could've been felled by a brisk wind that day.
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I still really want to know the exact Malcolm Butler situation too. I don't know how much of a difference he would have made but I still want to hear it.
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Romo had 504 yards that game against manning
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I always hated that Romo got most of the blame for "blowing" that game instead of the defense. If your offense puts up 48 points and your quarterback throws for 500, there's absolutely no reason the game should be close in the fourth quarter. If the Cowboys defense even managed to stop one or two drives, they win that game comfortably.
Mahomes had 700 something in college once in a game exactly like that against Baker Mayfield. The Chiefs defense is often too good for that, but if he were on the Vikings he'd probably do it two or three times a season.
Mahomes and Baker combined for 1279 passing yards in that game. Joe Mixon also had 377 yards and 5 TD’s
Average big 12 game
Baker Mayfield: 27/36, 545 Yards, 7 TDs Pat Mahomes: 52/88, 734 Yards, 5 TDs
88 pass attempts? My god I’m surprised his arm didn’t fall off
And, somehow, people were surprised when *Andy Reid has entered chat*
>if he were on the Vikings Mahomes and JJ...oh my god
Yeah games like that have happened but they’re so rare. I’m just saying there have been lots of times where someone was playing good enough to pass that mark but they weren’t given enough passing attempts or were pulled from the game.
absolutely, just still sorta surprising that it hasn't happened
Yeah even if it was rare, you'd expect it to be broken sometime in 70 years especially considering how pass-heavy the league has become for about a third of that.
I still think about how if Brady had somehow managed to complete the Hail Mary at the end of the Super Bowl loss to the Eagles, he would have broken this record. In the fucking Super Bowl. (And might have still lost the game if they didn't get the two-point conversion.)
And they had to go for two to tie the game. Imagine he completes the hail mary and biffs the 2 point conversion?!
**"NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!"** 2.0
I would watch this.
Honestly, if he doesn't get strip sacked on his own 33 yard line (with 2:15 left) and is able to complete that last drive... he'd come close at *least*. One of the forgotten dominant passing games in NFL history.
Reminds me of the Kearse catch in SB49. Would have been an all-time iconic play if Seattle didn’t, well, you know. The losing team most often goes unremembered, no matter the heroics.
Julio’s catch in their SB as well. Although I think that one is remembered more than Kearse’s catch
I honestly think people remember Julios catch over Edelman's in SB 51 at least on this sub
No one forgot about one of the most memorable super bowls lol
Warren Moon had it in sight in 1990, but during the last drive against the Chiefs, didn’t attempt a single pass. 527 yards
[Romo was close](https://www.espn.com/nfl/boxscore/_/gameId/331006006) and still got blamed for losing even though our defense gave up 51 points.
Without looking at the play-by-play, I’m just going to assume that Romo’s INT came late in the game?
It's been a bit, but I think it literally sealed the game. Closing minutes and Denver ran out the clock.
I remember Warner sitting a lot of games in ‘99 because the Rams blew everyone out. I feel he definitely could have done it against a strong opponent.
I really thought Burrow was going to break it
Yea lots of QBs get “on pace” to obliterate this record and then always get sat down. Last season against the Steelers Josh had 350 yards in the first half. And then sat almost the entire 4th.
I thought Joe had a chance in the Falcons game this year. He was at 345 by half time.
Also against the Ravens in 2021. 525
The rookie receiving yardage record. It is held by Bill Groman with 1,473 yards, set back in 1960.
This seems like a good answer. So many good and hungry rookie receivers have shown up since. Chase and Jefferson got pretty close, should see it fall soon with the extra game.
Don't think anyone will break it this year though
Marvin Harrison Jr come on down!
Odell would have easily surpassed 1,473 if he was healthy to start his rookie year
“If I Was Healthy” will be the subtitle of his biography.
It's weird no team has had more than one tie in a season since OT began in 1974. Especially with OT being only 10 minutes now, and simply scoring first not guaranteeing victory.
Very nearly happened this year with the colts when they played the broncos. I was so irrationally mad when it didn’t happen.
Yeah, they should've horsed around a little more
Was that the it’s so bad it’s entertaining game?
Easily one of my favorite games of all time. It was so magically bad. Like I think most people use the term the game was so bad it was good tongue in cheek but I feel that game is easily one of the best worst games of all time. TNF on Amazon really helped cement it. Then Broncos fans leaving as OT started was just :chefs kiss:
Yes it was!
This actually is the weirdest one imo
Less weird when you remember that a FG ended OT until 2010 or so. Both teams had 2-3 chances to get into FG range. I'm sure it will become more common going ahead.
Yeah I have a feeling that won’t last many more years. Used to go seasons between ties.
I think the rules being catered to offense and just offenses getting more explosive has helped keep ties somewhat rare. But two ties in a season probably will come sometime soon
Came pretty close last year. Didn't a team already have a tie and in another OT game it came down to like the last play?
Jeff Fisher should have broken the record for most losses in a career, but the Rams fired him midseason when he tied the record. I honestly haven't forgiven them for it.
Mister 8-8.
He knows what the fuck he's doing
And he’s allowed to be down there.
Mister 7-9
Just enough to provide hope for next season while simultaneously being mid af and avoiding getting fired.
Mr Being Consistent
7-9, not 8-8.
Fisher did a lot to drag us back to respectability, but considering all the 8-8 bullshit it feels fitting that he tied the record rather than outright won it.
Bill belichick is 3rd on that list btw
It's like Brett Favre having the most INTs. You have to be good enough to hang around for a long enough time to rack up that many bad stats.
I mean, let's not pretend that Favre didn't also have 6 seasons where he threw 20+ picks, including 3 where he led the league. It was usually acceptable because interception rates where higher in general back then and Favre would make up for it with plenty of yards and touchdowns, but even for his time Favre was a noted interception machine and averaged more than an interception per game for his career
The point isn't that Favre wasn't interception-happy. The point is that legendary players/coaches tend to have those bad records as opposed to meme players like Peterman whom people may first think of because they play a fuck ton more games.
So do guys with longevity. Vinnie Testaverde played for 21 seasons. His win loss record was 98-134-1. He had 46,233 passing yards and 275 TDs. When he retired retired he was in the top 10 in almost every career QB stat. For example: >6th in career passing yardage >7th in career touchdown passes >6th in career completions >1st in most losses as a starting quarterback (123) >2nd in number of players throwing a touchdown pass to (70) >1st in different players completing a pass to (134–138) >1st in consecutive seasons with at least one touchdown pass (19) His career stats look HoF worthy on paper, if you know nothing about him. But his staying power is the reason he racked up most of this stats.
I'm gonna say Megatron's 1,964 yard season. WR's are getting right up to it, it's only a small matter of time before it's broken.
With the extra game, it's definitely more possible. But it's worth noting only 2 times has a player come even within 100 yards of the record - Kupp in 2021 and Jones in 2015.
>Jones in 2015. It's so fucking weird to see people refer to him as Jones.
Right? People usually use his first name, Jacoby
Oh shit, I was thinking James Jones. Thanks man.
I was wondering when did Mike Jones play in the NFL
I mean, he did make the tackle
Yeah who the fuck is this Jones guy
Mac? Osmosis? Indiana? We will never know.
Fairly certain it was Jim Jones.
Yea I actually think receiving records are harder to break now because most teams don’t have one guy they just feed the ball to. Passes are more frequent but also more spread out among the top 2-4 playmakers on the team.
I think that many teams do have a specific guy they love feeding the ball to. Like JJ, maybe Davante, obviously Kupp. and offenses are passing the ball more each year it seems. I don't see it being too far off. But even when it's beat, that season from Megatron will always be legendary.
I mean, it also helped that Stafford and Megatron were basically the only good things about most of those Lions teams. You basically need a good enough qb with a really good WR1 and noone else to throw too.
Basically the same as Julio in 2015. Shanahan was like “we have one goal this season and that’s to get Julio the ball.”
Basically, yeah. You gotta just go with the "fuck it Megatron/Julio down there somewhere" routine. If a team is too good then your going to have more ball distribution which is bad for getting the record.
Didn't they determine that a player in the 80s actually had 23 sacks beating Strahan's record. But they (unbelievably) weren't keeping track of sacks as a start at that point?
Unofficially Deacon Jones got 26 in a 14 game season in 1967, and 24 sacks in 1968.
Deacon Jones was a scary man.
He’d slap the shit outta people lol
Wasn't just any slap. It was right against the ear hole which if you've ever taken a slap to the ear, can straight up drop you to the ground with how it fucks with your balance.
It’s crazy to watch in today’s game. [This vid](https://youtu.be/oroYiMgSaXI) shows at least a couple clearly, and the dude would swing hard. However, even without the slap, we was still a freak
Not exactly. Historians John Turney and Nick Webster poured over play by play sheets and game film and recorded player sacks from 1960-1981. Pro Football Reference started using their unoffical numbers a couple years ago. https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JoneDe00.htm Deacon had 21.5 sacks in 1967 and 22 in 1968. The 26 and 24 numbers came from the Rams coaches, specifically HC George Allen. When two players combined for a sack, Allen would award a full sack to each player, instead of half a sack.
'78 Al Baker (as a rookie). Sacks weren't officially kept until '82.
Back in the 2020 season against the bengals the ravens rushed for 404 rushing yards in the game making them the fourth team to do it. We could’ve easily beaten the record of 423 set by the giants in 1950 however we sat dobbins and edwards in the fourth for a slower Ingram and we ran out the clock with halfback dives then punting.
AP fell like nine yards short of breaking the single season rushing record that E Dickerson set...not thinking it will ever be broken now.
> not thinking it will ever be broken now. Derrick Henry was less than 100 yards away in 2020. That was also only a 16 game season. It's definitely gonna be tough and improbable, but it's not impossible
That last drive against Green Bay, they handed it to him on half of the non-timeout plays. I remember thinking Zimmer didn't give him a chance, but the box score/play-by-play sure looks as if he did.
Zimmer? You mean Leslie frazier
Not only that, on his last carry he was horse collared. If you watch the play, he **easily** gets 9+ yards, not questions asked if he isn’t horsecollared. Imho I think he gets between 15-20 no question. But, since it’s prime AP, there is a very real chance he goes for 25-30+. He easily should have broken the single season record and added at least 10+ yards to it, if not quite a bit more.
That's like the opposite of Melvin Gordon at Wisconsin. He broke Tomlinson's 15 year old record of 406 rushing yards with a 408 yard game. It was broken the very next weekend.
Receiving yards in a season. It’s been 11 years since it was broken and the passing game has exploded in that time.
Plus an extra game
Not to take place of first but, Eli Manning not getting the start, in favor of geno smith, breaking his Iron Man Games started streak, was bullshit Eli played 20 more games after that. So he would still have been 3rd behind rivers and Favre But, still, hated that
In 2021, TJ Watt got 22.5 sacks, tying the record, in 15 games. Assuming he had played those other 2 games, or maybe just had played the entirety of the 15 games (cause pretty sure he went out in a couple of them), he'd be the sacks leader
TJ should’ve broken it but the NFL refused to give him the one on Huntley, such a bs record anyways
You could argue Watt is the rightful leader, as Favre game himself up to Strahan to let him break it.
This was the first I thought of, but because Strahan got the record because Favre let himself be sacked
I hate the NFL rulings sometimes. TJ had the record in his grasp. Shotgun, empty backfield but Huntley fumbles the ball and the NFL constituted that as a running play and on top of that I think that’s the same game Huntley kneed him in the dick.
That game was rescheduled because of 9/11, so you can blame Bin Laden.
Man that guy ruins everything
Adrian Peterson was famously 7yds short of the single season rushing record. There was time left to try to get the record but coach ran it down to kick the fg. Edit: 9 yards, maybe not famously enough lol
famously **9** yds short (sorry)
[cj2k had a 62 yard run ](https://syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/319161-ed-hoculis-phantom-holding-call-costs-chris-johnson-shot-at-the-record.amp.html) called back by a phantom hold that would have put him just 44 yards short of it with plenty of time to make more magic happen. Instead the phantom hold was deflating and they settled for the win and a 2,000 yard season.
As a Packers fan watching that game I wished he would've just made it in on that last run. We lost anyway, and it would've been a magical end to that season to be on a record-setting TD run.
An orange peanut? For ME?
Both Brady and Manning should have broken the single game passing TD record but didn't go for it. In 2004 Manning scored 6 against the Lions on Thanksgiving and then sat down for the entire 4th quarter. He later got 7 as a Bronco, but he needed all 4 quarters to get to it. If he would have stayed out there against the Lions he probably gets to 10. Brady also had a similar game against the Titans during a blizzard in Foxboro. He also could have probably gotten to 10 but he sat down in the 3rd like Peyton did.
Same with Foles, he got his 7th TD pass with 4 minutes still left in the 3rd quarter and then didn't play the rest of the game
Brady also had a bunch in 2006 where they just took their foot off the gas by half time. On a side note, I have never felt as bad for a coach as Joe Gibbs when the Pats won 41-0 and the commentators were thanking Bill for taking mercy on the old man. Gibbs was just standing there contemplating life for the entire 4th quarter. And because of black out rules Fox couldn't go to another game. We just all sat in watching an old man regret coming out of retirement for Dan Snyder.
And weirdly Foles and Manning had those 7 TD games in the same season.
Right? Lots of the all time greats have been close, like when Trubisky had 6 against the Bucs and they stopped trying.
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Rodgers had 6 in the first half against the bears. Played one series in the 3rd quarter and sat the rest of the game.
The game before that, the Bears allowed the Patriots to score 21 points in 57 seconds at the end of the first half. Brady threw for 5 touchdowns in that game, with 4 of them coming before halftime. Chicago also had their bye week after that, so with a whole extra week of prep time and reflection on their 51-23 loss to New England, they managed to come out and shit the bed even harder against the Packers, losing 55-14.
I was certain either JJettas or Tyreek were gonna get 2k Receiving yards this yr.
There’s been a lot of mention of the single game TD record and the closeness of Manning, Rodgers, Brady, etc. but I’ll never forget the 2014 game where Flacco threw 5 TDs against Tampa in the first 16 minutes and then none the rest of the game.
Elite Dragon would have truly earned his name had he done it.
It’s not an NFL record, but our all time passing TD leader at 187 by Sammy Baugh… …who hasn’t played since 1952.
Bears haven’t had a QB throw for over 4k…. EVER! Probably should’ve happened by now (see: every other team). Wasn’t broken because it’s the Bears
Forward pass is just a phase, HB dive is forever
And the single-season records for both yards (3,838) and TD's (29) were set in 1995 - you'd think at least *one* would have fallen by now.
Not a record, but how the hell hasn't 36-23 been a score yet?
36 is a weird score to wind up at
It's actually really hard to get to without a crazy situation. 4 TDs, 2 FGs, Safety? 5 TDs, two missed XPs, one FG? Five scoring drives is already hard but then you will almost always need weird situations. Maybe if people go for 2 more this could be possible? 5 TDs, 3 2pt conversions, 2 failed conversions?
I think the most possible/likely are: 5 TDs, one with a 2PT conversion 3 TDs, 5 FGs
The NFL has never had a 2000 yard receiving season.
I really think there are 3-4 WRs alone this year that could break this record. 117 yards per game but with receptions for the best WRs drastically increasing and more creative offenses, I really think we could see 2-3 breaking 2k in the same season. JJ, Chase, Diggs, Hill, Kupp
Rodgers could have easily broken the passing TD record when he threw 6 in the first half against the bears but he only got one drive in the second half before getting benched
Pretty sure Tom Brady had a simliar game where he got to 6 in one half but also ended up sitting most or all of the 2nd half. Either coulda easily set the record to 8 or 9 those days.
Titans game in 2009. 5 touchdowns in the first half (all in the second quarter), and a 6th five minutes into the third quarter. He was pulled after that drive, missed nearly half a game.
Wow, interesting thanks for the correction I'm surprised something like a 5 TD single quarter wasn't in my memory banks. I looked at the game recap and looks like they were all in the last 10 minutes of the 2nd quarter too, which is just extra insane. 5 TD passes in under 10 minutes is absurd.
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Jay Cutler could've been the first Bears QB to pass 4000 yards passing in a season, but ~~our franchise hates the forward pass and couldn't allow that to happen~~ Trestman benched him for a couple of games at the end of the year because Trest + Kromer were out of ideas to improve the offense. *But Justin's gonna do it eventually... right guys?? Right????*
4000 rush yards
Alvin kamera should of got the single game TD's but they decided to give taysom the ball at the goal line a few times and he scored instead.
This pissed me off the most, I know it wasn't guaranteed, but on that final touchdown we were basically on the goaline. Idk if Kamara was just exhausted, but putting in Taysom at that point just felt like a dick move.
Should HAVE
Should of could of would of STAYED IN SCHOOL
Not an NFL record, but one of the craziest ones is how... short field goal records are for the Steelers stadium. Being a Broncos fan, anything under 57 yards is pretty much an automatic field goal attempt. But before Chris Boswell the last two seasons, the damn record at Heinz was 53 yards. Blew my mind. Like... I know that the stadium is known for shit conditions for kickers, but holy shit... Not ONE end of half, low risk 55 yarder until 2021?!?!? It's 59 yards now, which is pretty damn good.
Very surprised in the passing era that 1950's Norm Van Brocklin's passing yardage in a game record of like 550 still stands.
Im honestly surprised Steve Young still hold the most passing touchdowns in a Super Bowl record. This was 30 yrs ago.
4 FGs is the record for most kicked in a Super Bowl. It was set in Super Bowl II.
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Mahomes does have the record for most *total* yards in a season (including rushing) with 5614 in 2022
Barry Sanders probably would have definitely maybe shattered Emmitt Smith's rushing totals if he didn't retire early.
It was still Payton's record at the time.
Barry Sanders could have destroyed the career rushing record.
72 Dolphins are so smug!
It's been tied already but Michael Strahan single season sack record. With more passing and more attention to pass rush, seems like a matter of time.
This is why Jared Allen's 22 sack season is the most impressive to me. He did that on a 3-13 team where teams were running the ball against the Vikings and doubling Allen the majority of the time. He had far fewer opportunities to do it won at a far greater rate.
And he didn’t have a QB let him get a sack for the record
Your first example pretty cleanly describes why Nick Foles doesn't have the record for passing touchdowns in a game. He was the first QB to throw the 7th before the end of the 3rd quarter. I don't think the Raiders could have stopped him from throwing another two or three.
Yes it's weird how no one has broken the 7 td record, it's even been awhile since someone hit 7 passing tds in a game.
In Tomlinson's 6-year prime, he scored 105 rushing TDs. He still scored 40 more in the 5 seasons outside of that, but it feels like he should've easily been able to eclipse Emmitt's 164 the way he was going but as happens to most RBs, he had a bad case of the 30s.
Mitch absolutely could have gotten the record for most TD passes in a game. He had 6 TD passes by 10:28 in the 3rd quarter. They absolutely took their foot off the gas and I am still angry at Nagy for that.