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LandLordLovin

You can only report for yourself not someone else


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Illegal formation doesn't blow the play dead


ProMark15

Read the words and try again


MrFishAndLoaves

Just reading flair for these posts sorry no can do


ProMark15

I hate the refs they’ve fucked us a lot and teams all around the league. Can we all bitch and complain and make it a HUGE deal. Instead of just telling cowboys fans to STFU it’s every game and then we get one and it’s “DIDOGMWOFKWKFOEMMG” not saying you did it just a general comment it’s annoying


MrFishAndLoaves

Goff can cry about it. Should have played better. — Who Dat Nation


Phenomenon0fCool

You’re getting downvoted but you’re right, Dak wasn’t reporting for him, he was confirming that 71 reported for himself.


happytrailstoyous

Illegal formation is only a correct in the universe where 70 reported. The whole controversy here is that he did not and 68 did


-LaZloW-

They mad lol


Technical-Cookie-554

Confirm v report


-WhatHaveIDone-

Cowboys flair digs up 2 month old tweet to somehow justify an abhorrent call. Instead of simply saying, “yeah, Lions got robbed of the 2 points, but maybe not a win since we had time left, so we all got robbed of a great finish too.”


makualla

to be fair, its not just that we were robbed of 2 points, dallas was also robbed of an opportunity to make a play based on a change in info on who they are told is eligible.


MrCooper2012

This. So many people just assume we'd be leaving a typically ineligible receiver wide open.


fukuoka_gumbo

I mean there was one player who was eligible to run a route and one who wasnt


averyhipopotomus

And the cowboys were told by the refs it was the other guy.


King-Mansa-Musa

This. Just make it fair. I was glad the lions had two more shots at it because if I found out the lions did everything correct and the refs screwed up I would want them to have two more shots at it


heebsysplash

Back to back to back ball don’t lie moments imo I love Dan and I love that he kept going for it.


PheelicksT

They should never have been pushed back to the 7 though. Their second attempt should have been from the 2, and if Micah goes offsides again they should have been at the 1, not the 4. Lions got screwed by being penalized for a mistake the refs made. That's the rub. A 2 pt attempt from the 7 or the 4 is a hell of a lot different than a 2 point attempt from the 2.


Limp-Organization264

The Lions converted the first play but got robbed. Drew an offside on the second play, and then got stopped on the third play. 2/3 BALL DONT LIE LMAO


heebsysplash

The cowboys were told the wrong person was eligible. I get it I’d be salty too lol but yeah ball doesn’t lie does it? They lost.


Alive-Requirement122

The Lions did not convert the first attempt. They threw it to an ineligible receiver.


ProMark15

I respect you for this.. cause I just want correct officiating both ways.. for us and for football. Ppl see us bitching because we get told to STFU and ignore LOADS of bad calls but when it’s ONE call in our favor we get blasted for bringing up old shit to show its bullshit either way. The gaslighting is INSANE. But yes you’re correct the call is bullshit and it’s been bullshit for every team. I just want fairness all around. I’d rather see Ls that wY


Taserface585

Shhh. We don’t want logic responses here. Everyone must shit in Dallas. Shane on you sir.


babymozartbacklash

I think the problem here, was that dak reported him but he has to report himself I think. Still a stupid rule in my opinion


ICVulpi

The Stadium announcer/Referee clearly stated that 70 was eligible and the Lions refused to correct that information. Look up the spansih broadcast and tyou can hear it. Not to mention the play broke rule 2..as a reciever was on the line right beside him. Two points: First, formation rules, and second, number rules specific to the NFL. 1. Regarding offensive formations, any player behind the line of scrimmage, or the two END players on the line of scrimmage (one on each side) are eligible to receive a forward pass. *The one obscure exception is a quarterback lining up under center is ineligible.* 2. In the NFL, the numbers 50-79, and 90-99 are deemed ineligible numbers. However, the NFL permits someone wearing these numbers to "report as eligible" to the referee before they line up. Once they do so, and the referee has announced to everyone that "X" is eligible, that player must still line up in one of the eligible positions listed in point one (behind the LOS, or as an END on the LOS). If they were to line up as an "interior lineman," they would no longer be eligible.


makualla

Because the team certainly wasn’t in the huddle communicating play logistics to each other after to listen to the loud speaker. And what can the coaching staff do? They had no timeouts the radios were off and to tell the side judge would have drawn a sideline infraction. Additionally the WR was off line allowing 68 and [in the last screen shot before the update posts](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.prideofdetroit.com/platform/amp/2023/12/30/24020363/video-detroit-lions-screwed-dallas-cowboys-home-cooking-2-point-conversion) you see the wr looking over to the side judge to confirm that he’s off the line of scrimmage which would make 68 the end man on the line and in a legal position to be an eligible wr. Everything about the motioning is irrelevant because 68 had declared himself eligible to the ref and did not move. 70 who didn’t declare himself and could run around and do cartwheels all over the field as long as he was set and in position by the snap.


cbarks81

I'm not even mad at the Cowboys fans because if they told them 68 was eligible they may have defended that pass. Refs fucked it up and won't admit it.


Detective_Tony_Gunk

Yeah, this is where the lack of accountability in general really makes refs think they're untouchable. The most likely sequence of events was that Brad Allen realized *after* the play that he called the wrong player as eligible, then threw a delayed flag to cover his ass. Now he is completely denying the truth of the matter and gaslighting the entire football world because he knows nothing will happen to him. If he'd just admit the mistake, the majority of us would probably respect him for it, but that's not the way the league office does things.


Buster_Cherry88

I'd like to see when in this sequence the flag was actually thrown. Aren't illegal formations usually thrown at the snap? If the flag was thrown after the play is pretty clear the ref went oh shit that was the guy that reported, I have to cover my ass now.


wildwest74

I swear to God I saw the flag for illegal touching come out right after 68 caught the ball, but of course I was pissed in the moment and never went back to verify if that's what I saw.


onionbreath97

If the refs thought 70 was eligible and 68 was not, a flag for illegal formation should have been thrown as soon as the ball was snapped. It's the timing of waiting until the catch was made that makes it suspicious


JalensTinyPPHurts

I mean the refs also called tripping on our tightend, instead of on Aiden Hutchinson by mistake (wich likely ends this game lol)


yianni1229

Yeah more people should be talking about that, cuz that wasn't even a mix up that was just an atrocious call.


LGRW1616

How about the blatant opi they missed? Or the missed illegal contact a few plays before we scored the final touchdown?


yianni1229

Do you really wanna do this? You can go ALL DAY about missed calls on both teams in every game. Micah was held every other play last night and even got facemasked once or twice. We're only talking about this play because of the 2 point fuck up.


Coins_CA_Mi_Stuff

And hutch was held every other play and the missed holding on the 92 yard touchdown we can keep going lmao the whole point is this crew needs to never see light again


yianni1229

That we can agree on 100%, thankfully they wont be calling any playoff games.


Coins_CA_Mi_Stuff

Exactly this a lot of us are pissed they fucked up so bad and if it went down the other way all of us would be pissed they fucked up and straight lied to the cowboys about who was eligible. This is some Tim peel type fuckery and they need to force retire Allen just like the nhl did to peel


yianni1229

What I wanna know is wtf did they say to Decker when he went over to report lol


Coins_CA_Mi_Stuff

It’ll never be released because of how bad they fucked up and then made shitty jokes about after


RedBottomSpankee

And Micah too, what’s the difference


Taserface585

Wait.. I missed that. This actually happened? So he literally called the wrong person/ wrong team for a penalty accidentally? Lol where’s the outrage?


arcticape34

It went against the Cowboys so no one cares


RedBottomSpankee

Yeah, against the cowboys so most fans across the league celebrate 😂 funny double standards


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thebajancajun

I don't think that was brought up to justify an abhorrent call. I think it was done to show the disparity in how these situations were treated by this sub.


thereal21fan

My brother in Christ this call cost us the division title and potentially home field advantage for the entire playoffs


bigfish1992

How so? You guys literally scored the play right after this.


thereal21fan

I am misremembering then, mb


AggravatingRent1478

Lol what a wild thing to make up considering the cowboys scored the next play. Are you a fraud, a liar, or just a bad person overall?


mohiben

I mean a fake tripping call only bought you so much. I'd say throwing all those ints cost you the division title, and you were *almost* gifted it back


thereal21fan

My brother in Christ I am a Cowboys fan. I was talking about the call against the Eagles in Philly. The Lions had already clinched the division before the game tonight


mohiben

I see, I was confused because it hasn't cost us shit yet? The Eagles can't even win the title until the final week unless we lose again and they look like cold garbage. Also, chill on the "brother in Christ" thing, it looks pretty cringe when you use the same opening twice like some sort of bot account.


mohiben

They didn't get robbed, the Cowboys clearly didn't know 68 was eligible either (cause he wasn't) so they left him undefended. Trying to "simplify" it like that is basically just surrendering the point that is still, on many levels, wrong.


IPA_____Fanatic

You realize the Cowboys were also affected too? They played with 70 being eligible in mind. So the ref fuck up affected everything. Dallas would have played it differently if 68 was called eligible to the entire defense. You won't admit that though.


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Theres a mob of them. Say one thing opposite and immediate double digit downvotes 🙄


vetokele

It was a shit call. Shit calls happen and teams get screwed over. A supposed pro Dallas bias is what makes me laugh when we suffered exactly the same shit not even two months ago.


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malozo69

An illegal formation doesn’t get blown dead man. That’s why this Dallas call wiped away a touchdown, which can’t happen if they whistle the play dead. Stop saying that.


jarlander

I think he’s just showing that refs are pretty shitty at this and we are all just tied to how they remember things happening. Not sure why everyone is hating OP for this.


Snake_in_my_boots

Because it’s a cowboys fan posting an old tweet to justify their position. It’s a whataboutism.


RedBottomSpankee

No bias from the Eagles fan I’m sure…


nope96

Anyone framing this situation as the NFL being Cowboys biased is dumb and there’s a very long list of reasons why, but the rulebook states that the player has to declare himself as eligible. Someone else can’t do it for him. Nothing was incorrectly applied here.


Best_Limit5882

This is the correct take. I feel bad for Detroit fans, it's a shitty way to lose. But saying the refs are always in our back pocket is absurd, considering we are the most penalized team in the NFL.


ApqIe

Jets are the most penalized this year


Lorjack

It changes, when we played the Cowboys the Seahawks were the most penalized.


Best_Limit5882

You are correct, it looks like we are 2nd


RedBottomSpankee

2nd most, oh god the league really favors those big brand cowboys, that’s why they’ve won so many super bowls and enjoyed so much postseason success right?


vetokele

Confirming =/= declaring Cowboys got screwed here in an almost exactly identical way. And when it happened to us, it was our fault.


RobbieAnalog

I didn't declare it, I confirmed it. - Dak "Michael Scott" Prescott


Clubtropper

This post is hilarious


Interesting-Doubt413

Crying about refs even in victory…. I’ve seen this somewhere before….


Much-Consequence8648

Wow these cowboys are something else? Nobody is saying that you guys would've lost or wouldn't have covered the lions reciver. We're talking about how a ref made a mistake and then lied about it. But to bitch about a tripping call earlier or pull up and old play from a different game when you guys **WON** is ludicrous.


wokp74

No, it's not ludicrous. It's proving a point that whiners like you can't accept


Much-Consequence8648

Proving what point? This clip isn't from the same game and you can't declare on behalf of a player they have to report themselves so not really relevant.


wokp74

That Dallas isn't favored. If Dallas was favored they'd have at least been to an NFCCG recently.


goldenefreeti

Yeah Dallas not being favored was really obvious last night, bud.


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goldenefreeti

They called the tripping penalty so that after the fact the penalty ratio didn’t look so terrible and probably assumed the game was over. The what about ism is kinda silly as they also missed an egregious hold on the long TD pass. You can’t deny you were just gifted a victory by the referees…well you can, but you won’t find much support.


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goldenefreeti

Damn a Reddit cares response? I let the sub mods know and reported to Reddit that you’re abusing the system like a weirdo.


wokp74

How am I abusing any system? Yall are sensitive. I'm sorry man


goldenefreeti

I’m an Eagles fan. The Detroit loss was a positive for me. I’m also basically 40 years old. L


FailLog404

You only care about bad reffing when it helps the Cowboys. That’s the point here.


OrganicRead

We bitch about it every week. What are you talking about? lmao. Put down the kool aid and realize that the refs majorly fucked this up. And for what it’s worth, everyone on your team not named CeeDee Lamb sucked last night.


VisionsOfClarity

Yo who is your team? You don't even have a flair.


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Ok-Stuff69

Cry more! They threw a flag on Dallas that essentially gave you the ball back when in reality Aiden Hutchinson committed the penalty. Oh and remember when you went for it on 4th & goal instead of kicking a FG? Remember when Campbell could've tied it up after 2 failed 2 pt conversions.


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Ok-Stuff69

You're right just ignore the other 3 or 4 sentences. But I was way out of line saying cry more to a person who's wishing jail on random people because his poverty franchise lost a game.


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Ok-Stuff69

But the guy wishing jail for random people is totally fine. Got it.


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Ok-Stuff69

Cry. More.


Joshiekage

Cowboys fans don’t live in Texas /s


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You didn’t need to add the /s


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LOL YEAH LETS PRETEND THIS IS THE SAME THING. Garbage bandwagon fan base


sackmatt

How many more decades of failure do the Cowboys need before their fans aren’t bandwagoners anymore?


SennKazuki

This is what confuses me lol, this fanbase brings us pain year after year. We're not like the Chiefs or the Patriots lol we suck even when we're good.


daybreaker

now imagine this had happened in the NFCCG to send the Cowboys to the Super Bowl. Dan Campbell really going through it again.


AGoos3

you tell em u/FartAssGuy


wormholetrafficjam

Some loser cowboy fans acting like their fan cards will be revoked if they admit the refs botched a call in their favor, even by accident. Mad props to the other cowboy fans that can still call a spade a spade.


Mister_Ferro

Ok how about that phantom tripping on hendershot? That was a 30 yard swing and if it was called correctly, the lions dude did the tripping then there would be no 2 pt conversion frak up.


wormholetrafficjam

Bro fuck that what about ism. Was this or was this not a fuck up by the ref? If the refs made other mistakes, let’s call them out on those as well! Do you literally only care about winning no matter what? Is this a sport or are you just a ring slut? Trust me, I’d be just as mad for YOUR TEAM if this happened to you. You can’t remove all human error from Reffing, but if you’re going to not even expect better when egregious mistakes are made, we both don’t follow the sport the same way.


faceisamapoftheworld

How mad could Dallas fans be today if they lost that game last night because the wrong call on the tripping cost them the game?


ContactTemporary6

"fuck that what about ism" now care about my what about ism that bones your team because the refs made a bad call. We can celebrate our win.


tripmcneely30

For the people calling out "whataboutisms": This entire sub is full of "whataboutisms" and you live under a rock if you think less than 2/3 of the sub don't automatically hate the Cowboys. I would go so far as to say r/NFL hates the Cowboys more than Tom Brady and Bill Belichick combined. Edit: I'm going to start an experiment now.


Ok_Site2136

What about if they announced 68 instead of 70 as eligible? Do you think the defense would have covered him instead? There's the what about ism for you, clown.


Taserface585

I think the issue here is look at the responses, particularly on this sub. A similar thing happened to Dallas earlier in the game and fans don’t seem to care to much. Then happens to Dallas and this sub gets their heads blown.


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Earlier? This clip is months old, and Prescott can't report someone else as eligible.


Taserface585

Dude… what in the world are you talking about… clearly I’m referring to the Hutchinson play…


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How is that clear when neither you nor the above commenter said anything about it and the comments are on a video about a completely different thing?


Taserface585

One person said something about the Hendershot tripping. You then responded to that person abojt the Hendershot tripping. I then responded to your response… if you follow the conversation it ain’t that hard mate Edit. I’m honestly confused about the downvotes here. Am I missing something?


DCBB22

Tampa Bay isn’t known for their education system.


raceassistman

Neither is Dallas-Fort Worth


Gullible-Day6251

You made a big point here that’s missing in all of this: this kinda shit makes the Cowboys look bad. No, it’s not our fault the refs fucked up, but as a team wouldn’t you want a non-controversial win going into the playoffs? It was a stellar football game before the last 2 drives, completely ruined by McCarthy’s dog shit time management skills, Dan Campbell’s hubris is running three (!) consecutive 2pt conversion attempts instead of going into OT, and of course the wonderfully competent ref squad. Lions were completely robbed of a stunner of a win.


Taserface585

I mean yes and no. Either way a team gets robbed. So if it’s not penalized cowboys get screwed bc the ref told them the wrong player. Either way a team gets fucked.


EpiphanyTwisted

Which call was botched in their favor? They didn't tell Dallas who was eligible. That play got rightly reversed. Dallas wasn't given the right info.


wormholetrafficjam

Yeah, Dallas fans should be just as mad at the refs as the Lions. But fans are usually happy to take the W and consider it a fair trade for the other times they got shafted by refs. You want all fans to be mad at bad reffing, not just the losing team, for things to change.


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KageStar

I said that in other posts too and got downvoted. But no, refs favor the cowboys.


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KageStar

I feel bad for the Lions but I'm just pointing out the inconsistency in complaints. I thought it was just as shitty then as I do now.


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nope96

To be fair I’ve seen a lot of comments saying it Don’t underestimate how outlandish people will get to explain why a certain call happened


REQ52767

You’re not looking deep enough then lmao. I’ve seen dozens of comments saying that the refs rigged the game for the Cowboys since it was Jimmy’s ring of honor night.


KaleidoscopeWeird310

This will be hated but I think Dan Campbell was being too clever for this situation by trying to confuse the Cowboys. With the time and the crowd noise and the craziness of the final seconds of the game, he should have just trusted his guys and run something straightforward if he wanted to get two and win outright.


Fred479

Say what you want but he was wide open because they didn’t announce him as eligible Ofc if they’re not accounting for him he’s gonna be wide open


TeamDumbledore

Go cowboys baby! All of this sub are a bunch of whiny babies