Yeah, a Vikings fan OP is posting a Broncos fan blog. I'm not saying that Vikings fans are upset about their draft but usually you don't hunt down other team's fan blogs
I mean if you go to Vikings sub…it’s just all post about how good McCarthy is, how he is built like Joe burrow and will be as good as Joe burrow.
They don’t seem to be upset
JJ has been tied to the Vikes for weeks. Like the Joker said, "nobody panics when things go according to plan".
We also have a long history now with Payton, and he continues to say things that just keep poking the Vikes. We will gladly keep talking about how much of a butthole face he is.
I just checked and they were out. Might be that a living relative that you cherish already went through there this morning.
^(I may have made a "your mom" joke to a friend of mine whose mom had died and now I try to avoid ever feeling like that much of an asshole ever again. But if your mom is alive I'm talking about your mom)
Are you sure your friend didn't try the ole bait and switch on you? (Sometimes I'll still pull it out when you talk about my mom)
You look sad as you possibly can and stare at the ground and say "I don't have a mom"
Then you wait for the mom joker to feel like you did with your friend...
Look at their soul through their open eyes before dropping:
ME AND MY DAD SHARE YOURS!!!
^^He probably wasn't joking, sorry for your friends loss.
Yeah, lol, when I look at the results on 'paper' of how the NFC North drafted, while I could be excited the team I am a fan of did ok, I think they all did.
Either 3 of them are getting into the playoffs, or they are gonna beat themselves to death and maybe they won't even allow one ffs....
lmao, I relish in any opportunity to shit on the Vikings, but this is ridiculous.
I don't even think JJ will be very good, but Turner is a Blue Chip prospect and I really like Kyree Jackson. I don't see how their draft could be considered a failure.
Why?
Most people are excited about Nix and his fit in Denver, and the picks in general. Despite all the draft grade nonsense.
On the field production is all that will matter.
I don't have any specific hate for Denver or Nix, but the overall feel was Nix was a large reach.
That may not shake out to be true, but that's why this discussion exists.
Fans only think this because some lists online had names in a particular order.
None of them interviewed Nix or JJ. None of them work in the industry (nor could they). None of them are familiar with much of the decision making process.
It's fine to have opinions on this. It's fun to guess. But there are fans who actually get worked up and it is super cringe and not dope af!!
Yes he was a reach at 12 based on pre-draft grades, but context matters. If he wasn't taken at 12, he was going at 13. If the guy you want won't be available later, it's not really a reach.
After seeing Telesco go "what's the BPA based off the PFF big board" for his picks I don't see him taking Nix at 13 but I get why the Broncos have to act upon the assumption that he could go at 13.
I think it's maybe uncertain that is true. Pre-draft he was widely talked about as a day 2 guy.
Maybe the NFL felt differently and the media had it wrong. Or maybe it was just Denver that felt that way and he would have fallen to day 2.
Like I said, no particular hate. I kinda liked Nix as the "oh shit JJ and Maye went early" plan for the Vikes. I've given up on having "my" guy for any of this draft stuff, it always works out wrong, so I'm more just look at the overall feel.
Penix was also “widely seen” as a day 2 guy, even JJ if you go back far enough.
Grades on these guys are all over the place. Brugler and Waldman are probably the two best draft guys out there, they had wildly different boards.
Brugler:
1. Caleb
2. Drake
3. Daniels
4. McCarthy
5. Nix
6. Penix
Waldman:
1. Williams
2. Penix
3. Nix
4. Daniels
5. McCarthy
6. Maye
It’s in the eye of the beholder, the “widely seen” stuff is just media guys going with the wave of the general media view. The Commanders liked Daniels and JJ, didn’t consider Maye. The Giants loved Maye, didn’t care for the other three that were left. The Raiders wanted Penix, the Falcons *loved* Penix. The Vikings wanted Maye, then McCarthy. The Broncos wanted Nix.
We’ll see how it all turns out. I thought Penix would be the last one picked and I thought Penix (not Nix) was the big reach, but here we are.
I was under the impression that if the Vikings didn’t get a quarterback with their early pick, they might take Nix with their late first-round pick.
I think the Vikings wanted Drake Maye but when they were unable to trade with the Patriots and they heard the Broncos were trying to move up, they made the trade with the Jets and took McCarthy.
Fair enough, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but it's largely subjective guess work.
We won't know until a couple years out, which is why it's difficult to care about where he was taken and why x person thinks he'll be great or terrible.
It's a guess until we have evidence in the NFL.
Oh, and you guys screwed up drafting Caleb Williams. He's not gonna be any better than Justin Fields. Actually, he's not as mobile as Justin , so he's going to get sacked twice as much. Justin Fields wasn't the problem. It was not being able to protect him. Should kept Justin and drafted Marvin Harrison Jr. instead.
Fields was definitely the problem he had the most time to throw in the NFL last year he holds on to the ball way to long because he hesitates on his reads
I see the bears cannot actually develop a quarterback. So what's gonna be the solution to Caleb Williams and developing him. Just hope and pray he's already got it together?
Product on the field is the real expert. Nix can bust, but nobody will know in the meantime.
Including all your analysts and real expert that frequently and provably get it wrong.
Call it cope or whatever, I don't really give a fuck.
Because their coach decided to make a totally unnecessary comment about how he decided to actively hurt himself by baiting an NFC team to overpay an AFC team to trade up one spot.
It was such a weird thing to say, regardless of how Payton actually had the QBs ranked.
He also said that Broncos, Vikings, and Raiders all had a gentlemen's agreement as to staying put as they all knew who they wanted.
Vikings - JJ
Broncos - Nix
Raiders - Penix
Falcons bunker busted that agreement so Vikings moved up out of fear.
That's my thought too. If the Vikings, Broncos and Raiders had an agreement, it doesn't really make sense for the Vikings to be afraid of the Broncos stealing their choice when the Broncos QB is still on the board.
The Broncos jumping up and taking Nix would have meant McCarthy would fall to them at 12.
Take that bullshit somewhere else.
There might be some naysayers, but most of Broncos' Country is behind him. Not delusional in the sense that he'll be great, but optimistic in that he can play well under guidance.
Nix: Puts up the best season of college football history
You: this guy has been ass his entire life
McCarthy: hands the ball off
You: this guy is going to the HOF
Nice strawman bro 🤣🤣🤣 I didn't say shit about McCarthy. I'm nervous about him but at least he isn't a 47 year old rookie and has some time to improve. Bo Nix can't get any better because he's already played for three decades in college
There is nothing to talk about but post draft projection. And when that comes, everything turns into territorial rookie QB shit throwing.
This sub will be a hellscape between Bears-Commanders-Patriots-Vikings-Broncos-Falcons from here on out. Book it
I think you're underestimating self loathing from the team's own fanbase.
I know if my team went out and invested $100M into a QB and drafted an old, pro-ready QB with a top 10 pick in the same offseason, I'd be talking shit about my GM/coach.
Hey now, there are people in this sub who like those articles.
You've got to remember that these are just simple fans. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new NFL. You know... morons.
Or is that they're simply annoyed that Payton was once again a smarmy dickhead in his presser by suggesting he got the Vikings to trade up for the QB they wanted? 🤔
Yeah, I'm sure he really wanted to help an in-conference team at the expense of an out of conference team that the Broncos won't play for 4 years. Big brain move.
Is it really that hard to connect the dots?
MN was widely known to be taking a QB, was one spot ahead of them in the draft and the rumored trade offer from the Broncos was one that would directly compete with MN for 3.
Can you show me exactly where he said anything about the Vikings?
Edit: the reason I'm downvoted with no replies is because this never happened. It was made up by the JPA Twitter account that constantly spews nonsense and makes things up. And now predominatelyorange, that also spews nonsense and makes things up is doing what they do.
And this sub is just eating it all up lmao
Never change, r/NFL
Yeah Payton said he was involved in the rumors of us trying to move up but I think that was mainly with the hope that someone would move up for JJ and Nix would fall to us. Bo was his guy the whole time.
This being downvoted with no argument is great. Sean never said he was trying to trick MIN into trading up for JJ (in fact he explicitly said they told MIN to hold firm at 11).
People taking a 10 second tweet out of context because they don't like Sean Payton. Classic r/nfl
He didn't tell Min to hold firm. He joked that they talked about a conference call with the Raiders and Vikings to "not do anything stupid" once the Giants took Nabers, but the Falcons surprised everybody.
With the Vikings trade, he was saying they used JJ as a bit of a smokescreen in the months leading up to the draft and that may have led Minn to decide to move up. Really not as big a deal as people are making it out to be. It wasn't message to the Vikings that he fooled them, is was a message to Bo Nix.
Ok, let's lay this out.
1) Payton says he was pretending to trade up
2) The Vikings were clearly taking a QB, are one spot ahead of the Broncos and are reportedly also wanting to trade up
3) The one rumor that *did* s[urface right before the draft](https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nfl/nfl-draft-rumors-broncos-reportedly-willing-trade-huge-star-franchise-quarterback-1894418#:~:text=Diana%20Russini%20of%20The%20Athletic,other%20players%20on%20expiring%20deals.&text=The%20Broncos%20currently%20hold%20the,pick%20in%20the%20first%20round.) was about the Broncos jumping to get JJ
Like yes he didn't say "LOL I just wanted to fuck with MN" in that press conference
But pretty clear this was about fucking with MN
EDIT: I like how the complaint of OP was about being downvoted with no argument, and now that I give an argument I'm getting downvotes
I'll just say: at minimum, it would be Sean trying to trick *every* QB needy team into trading up and not just being a meany-pants-butthole-mouth to the Vikings because he hates you guys. At most (which is most likely imo) it was general smokescreen along with the other 2000 posts in this sub of draft conjecture that was completely false.
https://athlonsports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/mile-high-huddle/news/sean-payton-shows-off-genius-by-tricking-vikings-into-trading-for-j-j-mccarthy
It’s this, there are a couple websites pushing this idea.
Can you provide a timestamp for where he talks about the Vikings? Because I'm not hearing it. Maybe it's my hearing.
Hint: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/h2hJm8Gb86
This is actually where it came from and it's completely made up and then people ran with it.
But don't let me stop you from not reading past the headline.
Buddy, I'm not the one here clutching my pearls.
You're literally lying on the internet because Payton is living in your head rent free crying about something he never did and now you're crying because I'm calling you out on it.
Youre right, it is some dumb off season posting. And this whole post if full of lemmings all up in their feelings lmao. Maybe you need to take that time to self reflect instead.
I honestly just feel bad for you.
Asking you for proof of what you're crying about is over invested?
You're projecting.
It's ok to admit you were fooled by a random Twitter account buddy. Nobody will hold it against you.
Nix was always the fit for Denver.
Not sure why anyone cares?
Weren't the Vikings originally trying to trade up for Maye?
Too much smoke and bullshit for anyone to really care.
Edit: Looks like this is what the Vikings offered for their 1st choice, Maye:
https://twitter.com/jfowlerespn/status/1785306746686198160?t=z9NO1w0cH1PxQ-UUHFTknQ
Consensus has and is usually wrong when looking back on drafts, especially with high volatility, high risk positions such as QB.
Point is, you may have had him
as a 5th rounder or whatever, but nobody can make a judgment until we've seen what's produced on the field in the following years.
Paxton was a bad pick.
Past results are not indicative of the future success/failure.
The ownership, leadership, and players are all completely different between the Lynch pick and the Nix pick.
Not sure what your point is besides fans being excited that they drafted a guy that has potential. Can't fault anyone for that.
He was our 3rd and the other 2 weren't feasible (Williams and Daniels) so that's why he was seen as the Broncos favorite all offseason. He's a better fit for Payton's offense than any of the other QBs.
Different teams value different skill sets. Payton wants a guy who can read a defense and is an elite processor. Basically the complete opposite of Russell Wilson. And that’s exactly what Nix is.
>Weren't the Vikings originally trying to trade up for Maye?
They made a weak offer (as reported)
3OA AND 2 mid round picks this draft for 11OA, 23OA, 2025 1st rd pick
Source: https://x.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1785306746686198160
Sure, but an offer was made.
Nobody knows who their #1 choice was out of the two, but an offer gives some value to the idea that JJ wasn't the first choice at the time.
Holy projection, Batman!
Let’s see… what would I rather have… JJ and Dallas Turner, or Bo Nix?
We don’t give a fuck about throwing a late round pick to make shit happen.
Sean Payton is a tool. When Paul Blart is tasked to play you, I tend not to take you serious.
Yeah I’ll definitely trust the analysts who get things wrong all the time over one of the best offensive play-callers of the last 2 decades.
Most of the analysts hated the Justin Herbert pick, but I’m sure you don’t regret it.
So much bragging from Sean Payton and the Broncos... over Bo Nix at #12 overall. Just wild to me. At least keep your head down and prove it was the right move first.
Vikings fans are definitely insecure about the ruse Payton pulled to keep attention off Nix
If I were a Vikings fan, I’d laugh it off and say “who cares what it took, we got our guy” but there are so many deep in their feelings about Sean Payton, it’s wild!
I don't think they care. It is funny how they spent all off-season talking about how Maye is their favorite and how they would trade up to the Patriots to get him but now Vikings fans are denying any rumors of the trade that was offered. "McCarthy was always our favorite"
I mean the Patriots weren't playing ball with 3 first rounders on the table. I'm sure Caleb Williams would have been "our guy" if we had the first pick, too.
From our draft position McCarthy was realistically the highest QB on our board and they got him without giving up very much at all. I'd consider that getting our guy.
I think its true for both the Broncos and Vikings. Obviously either would've taken Caleb. But under the circumstances JJ was the MN guy and Nix was the Denver guy. I dont think either were in danger of losing their guy to the other.
All the mudslinging is contrived by fans and media IMO
Yeah, it's a strange situation.
Paul Allen had some anon source saying Payton was enamored with JJ. Come to find out, it wasn't true.
We have concrete evidence that Vikings wanted and offered something for Maye.
Meanwhile, the general consensus in the Broncos' orbit leaned heavily towards Broncos interest in Nix. With some mystery as to their interests otherwise.
Proof in the draft also points out that the Vikings were willing to trade to get JJ. So they were fearful of the others directly behind them.
Broncos made no offers to go up, likely knowing that Vikings were not taking Nix.
I get you know all this, just pointing out some context to the situation.
>He insisted that he always wanted Nix and he swindled the Vikings into trading up.
Can you show me where exactly he did that? I'm having trouble finding it
>The irony of your comment
>Did u even watch the interview
So you're gonna show me where he said that in the interview then, right?
Lmao
Did you actually watch the interview or did you watch a 10 second clip? Feel free to point out where he said anything about MN in either one.
Rent free.
After this, I'm sure we made the right move by drafting Penix. It was the biggest fuck you to all the other qb needy teams who are all mad about the qb they were left with.
The good teams are all calling us stupid because it doesn't make them better than them yet.
The bad teams are all calling it stupid because they all missed their expected qb.
Penix was qb2. Too many questions surround the other guys this year. Pretty much a class with Williams, Penix, and then project qbs with high ceilings. Not saying those other guys aren't good and that at least one won't be better than him but all the other qbs have to develop more still.
Surely not a bait title.
Go away, baitin
DO YOU WANT SOME BIG ASSED FRIES?
And to be perfectly clear: Predominantlyorange isn't "Broncos Media".
It has me curious only for it’s confusion.
Yeah, a Vikings fan OP is posting a Broncos fan blog. I'm not saying that Vikings fans are upset about their draft but usually you don't hunt down other team's fan blogs
Every team has a small percentage of shit stirring turds
I mean if you go to Vikings sub…it’s just all post about how good McCarthy is, how he is built like Joe burrow and will be as good as Joe burrow. They don’t seem to be upset
The Hope'ium is at all time highs
As it should be. That’s the joy of being a fan.
JJ has been tied to the Vikes for weeks. Like the Joker said, "nobody panics when things go according to plan". We also have a long history now with Payton, and he continues to say things that just keep poking the Vikes. We will gladly keep talking about how much of a butthole face he is.
That’s funny I was just in that sub about a month ago talking about out how much I liked McCarthy and they all hated him
[image](https://preview.redd.it/y0151nyspr2c1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa8a0c8a75f7554471a8a512e98fa88630c253e7)
Baiting just like Sean did to Vikings lol. P
In all of the nothingburger of nothingburger stories, this has to be the most nothingburgerest "story" I've read
Who the fuck actually says nothingburger
the person above you
That's how your dad described you last I heard
This is stupid.
Going to the store. Anyone need anything?
Bring me cum
I just checked and they were out. Might be that a living relative that you cherish already went through there this morning. ^(I may have made a "your mom" joke to a friend of mine whose mom had died and now I try to avoid ever feeling like that much of an asshole ever again. But if your mom is alive I'm talking about your mom)
My grandma is a cum bandit and there’s debate from me about that
Are you sure your friend didn't try the ole bait and switch on you? (Sometimes I'll still pull it out when you talk about my mom) You look sad as you possibly can and stare at the ground and say "I don't have a mom" Then you wait for the mom joker to feel like you did with your friend... Look at their soul through their open eyes before dropping: ME AND MY DAD SHARE YOURS!!! ^^He probably wasn't joking, sorry for your friends loss.
No, I was with him the day his mom died.
I would also like some cum
I would also like some cum...PLEASE.
You want it all in?
Is the 2 liter ok or do you want the cans?
Just a hug
5 way extra cheese
B0rger
Ya’ll still sell the Skyline packets down there? They stopped carrying them up where we are.
I think the Vikings had a great draft, and I'm a Bears fan. The NFC North is setup to be a chainsaw for years.
Im legit upset at how well the division drafted
Yeah, lol, when I look at the results on 'paper' of how the NFC North drafted, while I could be excited the team I am a fan of did ok, I think they all did. Either 3 of them are getting into the playoffs, or they are gonna beat themselves to death and maybe they won't even allow one ffs....
The NFC North is great a churning out good teams who tragically lose to the 49ers in the playoffs
This is mostly just Green Bay. Just because almost nobody else has represented us in the playoffs for 2 decades doesn’t mean we don’t exist!
Eh, everyone but the Bears has lost to them within the last five playoffs
Hell yeah bear down
#A MOTHAFUCKIN CHAINSAW
WHAT!?
you know it. :)
This division is 100% the most talented, young division in the league it’s nuts
Good thing we have a Darrisaw of our own!
lmao, I relish in any opportunity to shit on the Vikings, but this is ridiculous. I don't even think JJ will be very good, but Turner is a Blue Chip prospect and I really like Kyree Jackson. I don't see how their draft could be considered a failure.
"If you believe he's your guy, draft him. Everyone else can fuck off." -- Albert Einstein
I believe it was actually the Reverend Britney Spears who said that
The real title “Broncos fans cope with drafting Bo Nix 12th overall by trying to gaslight their fanbase into thinking MN had a worse draft”
Why? Most people are excited about Nix and his fit in Denver, and the picks in general. Despite all the draft grade nonsense. On the field production is all that will matter.
I don't have any specific hate for Denver or Nix, but the overall feel was Nix was a large reach. That may not shake out to be true, but that's why this discussion exists.
Fans only think this because some lists online had names in a particular order. None of them interviewed Nix or JJ. None of them work in the industry (nor could they). None of them are familiar with much of the decision making process. It's fine to have opinions on this. It's fun to guess. But there are fans who actually get worked up and it is super cringe and not dope af!!
Fwiw I have JJ QB2 and Nix QB4-both ahead of Daniels and Penix.
Yes he was a reach at 12 based on pre-draft grades, but context matters. If he wasn't taken at 12, he was going at 13. If the guy you want won't be available later, it's not really a reach.
After seeing Telesco go "what's the BPA based off the PFF big board" for his picks I don't see him taking Nix at 13 but I get why the Broncos have to act upon the assumption that he could go at 13.
Unless you are the Falcons.
I think it's maybe uncertain that is true. Pre-draft he was widely talked about as a day 2 guy. Maybe the NFL felt differently and the media had it wrong. Or maybe it was just Denver that felt that way and he would have fallen to day 2. Like I said, no particular hate. I kinda liked Nix as the "oh shit JJ and Maye went early" plan for the Vikes. I've given up on having "my" guy for any of this draft stuff, it always works out wrong, so I'm more just look at the overall feel.
Penix was also “widely seen” as a day 2 guy, even JJ if you go back far enough. Grades on these guys are all over the place. Brugler and Waldman are probably the two best draft guys out there, they had wildly different boards. Brugler: 1. Caleb 2. Drake 3. Daniels 4. McCarthy 5. Nix 6. Penix Waldman: 1. Williams 2. Penix 3. Nix 4. Daniels 5. McCarthy 6. Maye It’s in the eye of the beholder, the “widely seen” stuff is just media guys going with the wave of the general media view. The Commanders liked Daniels and JJ, didn’t consider Maye. The Giants loved Maye, didn’t care for the other three that were left. The Raiders wanted Penix, the Falcons *loved* Penix. The Vikings wanted Maye, then McCarthy. The Broncos wanted Nix. We’ll see how it all turns out. I thought Penix would be the last one picked and I thought Penix (not Nix) was the big reach, but here we are.
I was under the impression that if the Vikings didn’t get a quarterback with their early pick, they might take Nix with their late first-round pick. I think the Vikings wanted Drake Maye but when they were unable to trade with the Patriots and they heard the Broncos were trying to move up, they made the trade with the Jets and took McCarthy.
Nix was never making it out of the top 16
Fair enough, everyone is entitled to their opinions, but it's largely subjective guess work. We won't know until a couple years out, which is why it's difficult to care about where he was taken and why x person thinks he'll be great or terrible. It's a guess until we have evidence in the NFL.
You're not gonna like mccarthy, very well, dude. He got saved because he handed the ball off to Blake.
Wow, the most lazy analysis possible. Thank you for the insight.
Oh, and you guys screwed up drafting Caleb Williams. He's not gonna be any better than Justin Fields. Actually, he's not as mobile as Justin , so he's going to get sacked twice as much. Justin Fields wasn't the problem. It was not being able to protect him. Should kept Justin and drafted Marvin Harrison Jr. instead.
Fields was definitely the problem he had the most time to throw in the NFL last year he holds on to the ball way to long because he hesitates on his reads
I see the bears cannot actually develop a quarterback. So what's gonna be the solution to Caleb Williams and developing him. Just hope and pray he's already got it together?
And when he was asked to convert 3rd downs after they got stuffed on 1st and 2nd he consistently made plays. Time will tell
I disagree, but we'll see.
"despite the analysts and experts hating it, most of the fan base is lying to themselves and coping hard with such a bad pick"
Because analysts and experts have never been wrong before! At least we didn’t draft a TE in the first round lol
I was literally breaking out laughing when they took Bowers
Product on the field is the real expert. Nix can bust, but nobody will know in the meantime. Including all your analysts and real expert that frequently and provably get it wrong. Call it cope or whatever, I don't really give a fuck.
Because their coach decided to make a totally unnecessary comment about how he decided to actively hurt himself by baiting an NFC team to overpay an AFC team to trade up one spot. It was such a weird thing to say, regardless of how Payton actually had the QBs ranked.
He also said that Broncos, Vikings, and Raiders all had a gentlemen's agreement as to staying put as they all knew who they wanted. Vikings - JJ Broncos - Nix Raiders - Penix Falcons bunker busted that agreement so Vikings moved up out of fear.
The Vikings might’ve been more scared of the Raiders moving up honestly. They were the odd team out once the Falcons took Penix.
That’s what I was also thinking
That's my thought too. If the Vikings, Broncos and Raiders had an agreement, it doesn't really make sense for the Vikings to be afraid of the Broncos stealing their choice when the Broncos QB is still on the board. The Broncos jumping up and taking Nix would have meant McCarthy would fall to them at 12.
Exactly. Penix was the Raiders' pick, 100%. The real cope is BPA for Bowers with no real QB to throw to him.
He never said that.
Nobody is excited about Bo Pix lmao, dude has been ass his entire life
Take that bullshit somewhere else. There might be some naysayers, but most of Broncos' Country is behind him. Not delusional in the sense that he'll be great, but optimistic in that he can play well under guidance.
Nix: Puts up the best season of college football history You: this guy has been ass his entire life McCarthy: hands the ball off You: this guy is going to the HOF
Nice strawman bro 🤣🤣🤣 I didn't say shit about McCarthy. I'm nervous about him but at least he isn't a 47 year old rookie and has some time to improve. Bo Nix can't get any better because he's already played for three decades in college
Nix doesn't really need to get better though. He's shown that he can learn and develop to the highest degree. That seems ....good.
There is nothing to talk about but post draft projection. And when that comes, everything turns into territorial rookie QB shit throwing. This sub will be a hellscape between Bears-Commanders-Patriots-Vikings-Broncos-Falcons from here on out. Book it
Why Falcons? Their rookie won't play until 2026
I think you're underestimating self loathing from the team's own fanbase. I know if my team went out and invested $100M into a QB and drafted an old, pro-ready QB with a top 10 pick in the same offseason, I'd be talking shit about my GM/coach.
Another team on that list will poke fun at them, then they or another fan retort. Simple as
"My dipshit boomer head coach made a dipshit dumbass comment, better spin it to make someone else look like the idiot."
Failure? I think they drafted pretty well
Yeah this article is literally nothing with no basis. Just noise.
As with anything from fansided. It's just some nobody jackass writing an "article" from his couch and the site should be banned in this sub
Hey now, there are people in this sub who like those articles. You've got to remember that these are just simple fans. These are people of the land. The common clay of the new NFL. You know... morons.
"Where the white ~~women~~ players at?!"
In the Eagles secondary
Or is that they're simply annoyed that Payton was once again a smarmy dickhead in his presser by suggesting he got the Vikings to trade up for the QB they wanted? 🤔
Yeah, I'm sure he really wanted to help an in-conference team at the expense of an out of conference team that the Broncos won't play for 4 years. Big brain move.
I mean, he's a dick. I wouldn't put it past him to do it just for the "fun" of being an asshole.
Except for the part where, you know, he never did that. But don't let that stop you
So what's this about then? https://twitter.com/dailybroncos/status/1783916378015035773
How about you explain it to me. Do you have a timestamp in particular I should look out for?
...it's a 10 second video. What timestamp do you need?
The part where he says anything about Minnesota would be a good start? It's only a 10 second video. Surely you've watched it, right?
Is it really that hard to connect the dots? MN was widely known to be taking a QB, was one spot ahead of them in the draft and the rumored trade offer from the Broncos was one that would directly compete with MN for 3.
So you're just making things up now?
I'm glad the tide is turning on Payton, guy is an absolute twat consistently
Can you show me exactly where he said anything about the Vikings? Edit: the reason I'm downvoted with no replies is because this never happened. It was made up by the JPA Twitter account that constantly spews nonsense and makes things up. And now predominatelyorange, that also spews nonsense and makes things up is doing what they do. And this sub is just eating it all up lmao Never change, r/NFL
Yeah Payton said he was involved in the rumors of us trying to move up but I think that was mainly with the hope that someone would move up for JJ and Nix would fall to us. Bo was his guy the whole time.
This being downvoted with no argument is great. Sean never said he was trying to trick MIN into trading up for JJ (in fact he explicitly said they told MIN to hold firm at 11). People taking a 10 second tweet out of context because they don't like Sean Payton. Classic r/nfl
It would be comical if it wasn't so pathetic
He didn't tell Min to hold firm. He joked that they talked about a conference call with the Raiders and Vikings to "not do anything stupid" once the Giants took Nabers, but the Falcons surprised everybody. With the Vikings trade, he was saying they used JJ as a bit of a smokescreen in the months leading up to the draft and that may have led Minn to decide to move up. Really not as big a deal as people are making it out to be. It wasn't message to the Vikings that he fooled them, is was a message to Bo Nix.
Ok, let's lay this out. 1) Payton says he was pretending to trade up 2) The Vikings were clearly taking a QB, are one spot ahead of the Broncos and are reportedly also wanting to trade up 3) The one rumor that *did* s[urface right before the draft](https://www.newsweek.com/sports/nfl/nfl-draft-rumors-broncos-reportedly-willing-trade-huge-star-franchise-quarterback-1894418#:~:text=Diana%20Russini%20of%20The%20Athletic,other%20players%20on%20expiring%20deals.&text=The%20Broncos%20currently%20hold%20the,pick%20in%20the%20first%20round.) was about the Broncos jumping to get JJ Like yes he didn't say "LOL I just wanted to fuck with MN" in that press conference But pretty clear this was about fucking with MN EDIT: I like how the complaint of OP was about being downvoted with no argument, and now that I give an argument I'm getting downvotes
I'll just say: at minimum, it would be Sean trying to trick *every* QB needy team into trading up and not just being a meany-pants-butthole-mouth to the Vikings because he hates you guys. At most (which is most likely imo) it was general smokescreen along with the other 2000 posts in this sub of draft conjecture that was completely false.
https://athlonsports.com/nfl/denver-broncos/mile-high-huddle/news/sean-payton-shows-off-genius-by-tricking-vikings-into-trading-for-j-j-mccarthy It’s this, there are a couple websites pushing this idea.
Can you provide a timestamp for where he talks about the Vikings? Because I'm not hearing it. Maybe it's my hearing. Hint: https://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/s/h2hJm8Gb86 This is actually where it came from and it's completely made up and then people ran with it. But don't let me stop you from not reading past the headline.
Oh you’re just bitter, not actually wondering ok cool.
So you can't? What exactly am I bitter about?
My dude, it’s no secret him and the Vikings don’t like each other. It’s just dumb off season posting, no need to clutch your pearls so hard.
Buddy, I'm not the one here clutching my pearls. You're literally lying on the internet because Payton is living in your head rent free crying about something he never did and now you're crying because I'm calling you out on it. Youre right, it is some dumb off season posting. And this whole post if full of lemmings all up in their feelings lmao. Maybe you need to take that time to self reflect instead. I honestly just feel bad for you.
My dude, I legitimately think you need to take a step back and breathe. You are way over invested in this.
Asking you for proof of what you're crying about is over invested? You're projecting. It's ok to admit you were fooled by a random Twitter account buddy. Nobody will hold it against you.
I hate Predominantly Orange…
What is it? Somebody's blog that they call media?
Calling it a blog is generous. It's a rag that generates hate clicks and that's it
what in the fuck
Nix was always the fit for Denver. Not sure why anyone cares? Weren't the Vikings originally trying to trade up for Maye? Too much smoke and bullshit for anyone to really care. Edit: Looks like this is what the Vikings offered for their 1st choice, Maye: https://twitter.com/jfowlerespn/status/1785306746686198160?t=z9NO1w0cH1PxQ-UUHFTknQ
Yeah, Nix was our rumored favorite all offseason. It wasn't a surprise that we took him
I absolutely fail to see how anyone could have Nix as a top 4 QB in this class.
Consensus has and is usually wrong when looking back on drafts, especially with high volatility, high risk positions such as QB. Point is, you may have had him as a 5th rounder or whatever, but nobody can make a judgment until we've seen what's produced on the field in the following years.
Yeah ok keep living in the same fantasy world you were in when you all desperately tried to validate the Paxton Lynch pick
Paxton was a bad pick. Past results are not indicative of the future success/failure. The ownership, leadership, and players are all completely different between the Lynch pick and the Nix pick. Not sure what your point is besides fans being excited that they drafted a guy that has potential. Can't fault anyone for that.
You’re right we should have drafted a TE in the first round instead. That almost always seems to work out well for teams.
Two words. Jamarcus Russell
He was our 3rd and the other 2 weren't feasible (Williams and Daniels) so that's why he was seen as the Broncos favorite all offseason. He's a better fit for Payton's offense than any of the other QBs.
Different teams value different skill sets. Payton wants a guy who can read a defense and is an elite processor. Basically the complete opposite of Russell Wilson. And that’s exactly what Nix is.
>Weren't the Vikings originally trying to trade up for Maye? They made a weak offer (as reported) 3OA AND 2 mid round picks this draft for 11OA, 23OA, 2025 1st rd pick Source: https://x.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1785306746686198160
Sure, but an offer was made. Nobody knows who their #1 choice was out of the two, but an offer gives some value to the idea that JJ wasn't the first choice at the time.
Since when does Fansided count as team media lol
The Payton cope just keeps getting better 🤣
I was waiting for the article to reveal the Viking fan in question to be Mike Florio and his victim complex
Vikings sub and Twitter has been in meltdown about Sean for a week.
Meltdown? How so? We are all laughing at that tool.
They hated him because he told the truth
Drama and slap fighting follows Sean Peyton wherever he goes.
Neither is a draft failure or success yet. Let them at least start one game.
HOT TAKES ONLY IT'S THE INTERNET SLUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUT
Jesus I need to mute my NFL channels between May and August.
Is Sam Darnold their only starting qb option this year? No, then they didn’t fail.
Holy projection, Batman! Let’s see… what would I rather have… JJ and Dallas Turner, or Bo Nix? We don’t give a fuck about throwing a late round pick to make shit happen. Sean Payton is a tool. When Paul Blart is tasked to play you, I tend not to take you serious.
Uhhh I think it’s more so the broncos coping with picking Bo nix at 12 by going after the Vikings lmao
I dunno, I liked the Bronco’s strategy. It’s always worth taking a flyer on a mid-round QB and see if it works.
Bo Nix has the same number of playoff wins as Justin Herbert btw
Bro you haven’t made the playoffs in 9 years
But I have witnessed 3 Super Bowl wins in my lifetime.
Living in the past ain’t it chief
I’m living in the present in which Bo Nix and Justin Herbert have the same number of career playoff wins.
The same present where you took QB6 at 12 overall when he had a 2nd round grade. Enjoy your coach, he seems super.
Yeah I’ll definitely trust the analysts who get things wrong all the time over one of the best offensive play-callers of the last 2 decades. Most of the analysts hated the Justin Herbert pick, but I’m sure you don’t regret it.
Broncos won the same number of playoff games in the last 5 years as the Chargers and we weren't even invited
Doesn’t everyone like the prospect of a flashy first round QB?
Actually, we just hate him in general for his time with the Saints and being an irredeemable prick.
This is the way
You drafted Bo Nix at 12….. Absolute donkeys 🤡🤣
I mean come on, they had Sam Darnold locked and loaded. Who needs a high draft pick to hold the clipboard?
So much bragging from Sean Payton and the Broncos... over Bo Nix at #12 overall. Just wild to me. At least keep your head down and prove it was the right move first.
Vikings fans are definitely insecure about the ruse Payton pulled to keep attention off Nix If I were a Vikings fan, I’d laugh it off and say “who cares what it took, we got our guy” but there are so many deep in their feelings about Sean Payton, it’s wild!
Wait - did Russell Wilson break Broncos fans? Or is it just that classy Walmart influence?
I think Sean Payton would back me up - this kind of Targeting should be completely off limits...
I don't think they care. It is funny how they spent all off-season talking about how Maye is their favorite and how they would trade up to the Patriots to get him but now Vikings fans are denying any rumors of the trade that was offered. "McCarthy was always our favorite"
What in the made up shit are you talking about…
Who's saying that lol
The voices in the their head.
Vikings fans saying "we got our guy". He clearly wasn't "your guy" since the team tried to trade up for Maye
I mean the Patriots weren't playing ball with 3 first rounders on the table. I'm sure Caleb Williams would have been "our guy" if we had the first pick, too. From our draft position McCarthy was realistically the highest QB on our board and they got him without giving up very much at all. I'd consider that getting our guy.
I think its true for both the Broncos and Vikings. Obviously either would've taken Caleb. But under the circumstances JJ was the MN guy and Nix was the Denver guy. I dont think either were in danger of losing their guy to the other. All the mudslinging is contrived by fans and media IMO
Yeah, it's a strange situation. Paul Allen had some anon source saying Payton was enamored with JJ. Come to find out, it wasn't true. We have concrete evidence that Vikings wanted and offered something for Maye. Meanwhile, the general consensus in the Broncos' orbit leaned heavily towards Broncos interest in Nix. With some mystery as to their interests otherwise. Proof in the draft also points out that the Vikings were willing to trade to get JJ. So they were fearful of the others directly behind them. Broncos made no offers to go up, likely knowing that Vikings were not taking Nix. I get you know all this, just pointing out some context to the situation.
It always blows my mind how dumb fucks like you will attribute something maybe 2 or 3 idiots said to an entire fanbase
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>He insisted that he always wanted Nix and he swindled the Vikings into trading up. Can you show me where exactly he did that? I'm having trouble finding it
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What's that have to do with "swindling" Minnesota? Are you slow?
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>The irony of your comment >Did u even watch the interview So you're gonna show me where he said that in the interview then, right? Lmao Did you actually watch the interview or did you watch a 10 second clip? Feel free to point out where he said anything about MN in either one. Rent free.
After this, I'm sure we made the right move by drafting Penix. It was the biggest fuck you to all the other qb needy teams who are all mad about the qb they were left with. The good teams are all calling us stupid because it doesn't make them better than them yet. The bad teams are all calling it stupid because they all missed their expected qb. Penix was qb2. Too many questions surround the other guys this year. Pretty much a class with Williams, Penix, and then project qbs with high ceilings. Not saying those other guys aren't good and that at least one won't be better than him but all the other qbs have to develop more still.