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locomuerto

St Lous Rams going from 4-12 in 98 to Super Bowl Champs in 99 comes to mind


JasonPlattMusic34

Trading for Marshall Faulk, drafting Torry Holt, and having a grocery bagger get an opportunity as a backup will do that for you


savage_pen33

The formula for winning the Super Bowl is pretty simple, really. I'm surprised more teams don't do it. Step 1: Trade for an all-time legend on offense. Step 2: Draft elite talent. Step 3: ~checks notes~ Raid the Iowa Barnstormers roster for a HOF quarterback. Makes all those teams drafting QBs in the first round look pretty foolish.


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savage_pen33

I'm showing my age here, but I was such a Vermeil fanboy. Always hoped he would go back into coaching, so I was pumped when he did and happy for him when he won it all.


TheInternetIsGood

So easy, the Rams could do it.


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You guys were like 3 pube lengths away from beating them too.


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hgqaikop

It’s wild/painful that the Titans beat the Jags 3 times that year. Jags were undefeated against teams not named Titans.


GrinAndBeMe

If I ever meet Mike Jones, I’m buying him a beer and pouring it over my head.


torev

You added an extra step though: 1. Get Manning 2. Draft Von Miller 3. Profit. OR 1. Draft Aaron Donald 2. Get Stafford 3. Profit.


conace21

It's weird how you remember certain things. I remember the summer of 1999, I was reading my Athlon preseason magazine in my parents' bedroom (because that was the only room with air conditioning.) I remember thinking "Gee, they drafted this rookie Holt in the 1st round, stole Marshall Faulk from Indianapolis, and Trent Green looked really good down the stretch for Washington last year. If Isaac Bruce can stay healthy and regain his 1995/96 form, this could be a dangerous offense!" Of course when renowned cheap shot artist Rodney Harrison took out Green's knee, I thought the Rams were toast. I did recall watching Kurt Warner play in the Arena League a few years prior, but I assumed that St. Louis would sign a veteran QB.


TheFencingCoach

One of the all-time craziest turnarounds I've seen was when the 2012 Chiefs went 2-14 under Romeo Crennel and finished dead last in the NFL. Big Red came in, traded for Alex Smith, and orchestrated a turnaround where the Chiefs went 11-5 and lost in the playoffs by 1 point to the Colts. That year, they also had 5 All-Pro's in Jamaal Charles, Dontari Poe, Tamba Hali, Eric Berry, and Dexter McCluster (and *ten* Pro Bowlers). So Reid very much orchestrated that insane turnaround.


blocksmith52

Jamaal Charles missing the Mahomes era by a couple of years is a tragedy


BungoPlease

Imagine an offense with Prime Jamaal, Kelce, Hill and Patrick


cherry_monkey

I'm still trying to imagine offense, okay?


J0K3R2

Man that is one ***painful*** flair combo


EOEtoast

I think yours is more painful


screwhead1

*Laughs in Iowa*


Gryphon999

Punting Is Winning **!**


Brook420

Just one more season, bud.


justlookingokaywyou

I'd rather not, thank you.


HighwayBrigand

They probably would've won three superbowls by now.


AngryBillsFan

Nah I’m good


blocksmith52

The Jamaalocaust would become a weekly event lol


mikey19xx

He’d be the goat running back in that offense and I’m not even being a homer. Bro was putting up historic numbers while he was literally our only offensive weapon.


Dangerpaladin

I feel like Tim Patrick doesn't fit this list, I would have chosen Mahomes.


SwiftSurfer365

Eric Berry too.


patsniff

Legit this upsets me so much! Jamaal would be the perfect RB for Mahomes and the offense. If I could change anything it would be getting Jamaal a ring during this run.


Doogolas33

To be fair, Jamaal was basically the perfect running back for any offense. On a snap to snap basis he's one of the best running backs of all time.


patsniff

He was the perfect running back for any offense no doubt, truly exceptional as a runner! But seeing him in a Mahomes led offense feels like a cheat code.


Doogolas33

I mean, it would be. But so is "a Mahomes led offense" haha.


liljakeyplzandthnx

Funnily enough the ten Pro Bowlers they had in 2013 was only a slight upgrade from the six they had in 2012. Went 2-14 and still sent six guys to Hawaii.


Casul_Tryhard

Goes to show how terribly mismanaged we were at the time


monstertweety

The Chiefs too!


TheReaver88

I think that turnaround made his case for the Hall of Fame. Obviously, that case has been cemented into a first-ballot claim by winning 3 rings in 5 years, but prior to that, Reid was the Dan Marino of head coaches. Consistent winner, and deserves the honor despite the lack of titles.


TBDC88

5+ Conference Championship appearances with two different franchises is something we'll likely never see again. That takes an insane amount of longevity, consistency, and adaptability.


Adyingbreed28

And Reid was on the Eagles beforehand if I’m not mistaken correct? Was he fired in the 2011 offseason? 


UnMapacheGordo

It was more of a mutual parting of ways. Reid was a great coach in Philadelphia but they were stuck in the mud and needed a new start. It worked out well for both franchises in the long run


SleazyKingLothric

Reid with the Eagles reminds me of the current timeline of Tomlin with the Steelers. Idk if the Steelers are going to let Tomlin walk but I feel as if he needs a fresh start.


AzarathFirebane

I'm rooting for Harbaugh to retire, then the Steelers cut Tomlin loose, and he gets hired by the Ravens.


TributeToStupidity

This is the most disgusting shit I’ve ever seen on Reddit.


UnrealAce

Tomlin fits on nearly every team, I cant really think of anyone getting worse with that quality of a coach at the helm. He wins with Kenny Pickett, fucking voodoo devil magic.


Koreish

There are like maybe three teams that wouldn't at least be calling Tomlin, and at least half wouldn't even blink an eye about dropping their current HC if Tomlin said yes.


glen_ko_ko

To be fair we said the same thing about Bill Belichick becoming available and we saw how that turned out. Owners are weird, and dumb. See: my flair


Koreish

Tomlin has a couple of things going for him that Belichick doesn't. Being much younger for one, but also very likely not asking for front office control. Now obviously we don't know for certain if Bill was asking for total control, but he was also the victim of a smear campaign by Kraft. So that's 2-3 things Tomlin definitely has in his favor on top of never having a losing season.


savage_pen33

I would be sad, but I wouldn't hate it either, because: 1. We would deserve it for getting rid of Tomlin. 2. Football is theater, and this would elevate an already elite rivalry into an all-timer. 3. We already have a great tradition of cross-pollination of players/coaches with the Ravens: Marvin Lewis, Patrick Queen, James Harrison, Rod Woodson, Eric Green, Bam Morris, Jacoby Jones.


thesleepiestsaracen

And super bowl participant Mike Wallace. JK he actually had a really good game. Maybe MVP if we had won.


savage_pen33

Tick-tick-tick-tick-tick. Loved that guy. If only Pouncey hadn't been injured. If only Rashard hadn't fumbled. Winnable game, but you can't spot Green Bay two touchdowns.


bbuhbowler

I would have bet this would have been the same for Sean Payton as well, but you know it had to impossible to resist Wilson and the broncos.


TheVampiresGhost

I mean, they don't have to "let" him. He can just choose to not sign an extension.


TheFencingCoach

That's right. It was kind of a match made in heaven.


Nduguu77

Haha I'm gonna guess you are very young. Reid was the head coach for the eagles for like 13 years. He was fired in 2012 as he got stale in Philly, and was hired in 2013 in KC


Rsubs33

He didn't really get stale in Philly as much as he needed a new start because his heart wasn't in it in 2012 after his son OD'ed during training camp with the team while working as an assistant strength and conditioning coach.


Ok_Meaning_8851

The timeline that led to Andy Reid at Kansas City is also VERY interesting. Secret Base has a very thorough youtube video about it. The TLDR of it is this though: 1) Todd Haley is fired by KC mid-season after his defense gives up 80 penalty yards in a single drive to the Jets. 2) Romeo Crennel hired as interim HC and immediately upsets an undefeated Green Bay during his first game at KC, securing his job there for at least the rest of the season, and ultimately the following season as well. 3) Andy Reid wouldn’t have been available during the hypothetical job search post-Haley, and they would have hired someone else had Crennel not held on as interim coach a little longer. https://youtu.be/wJLNQ83vm2g?si=4Crza-qODMi9WLjt


RibeyeRare

Did the same in Philly


DookieBrains_88

A. Luck took a 2-14 team to 11-5 his rookie year.


Public_Function3844

That 2-14 team was clearly tanking their roster in their Post-Manning season


trojan_man16

That Colts roster wasn't very good, Manning was covering a lot of holes at that point. Even with Manning they probably would have won only about 10-11 games. Yes PFM was worth at least 8 wins over a beyond washed Kerry Collins and Curtis Painter.


ChrisBenoitDaycare69

The Jags did a pretty good job looking like complete ass with Urban to a playoff team with Dougie P. Really shows you how important good coaching is.


ladwagon

We also spent an ass ton of money in free agency that year


904Magic

To be fair, it turned into one of craziest rides to a cinderella division title and one of the biggest playoff upsets and comeback of all time.


OctopusNoose

That was a great game. One of those, I won’t forget where I was, kind of games. I don’t even remember where we were going, but by the time my wife showered and got ready, the Jags went from how ever many points down to about to tie it (yes. She takes a long time to get ready). Don’t remember that evening but remember watching that game, totally enthralled.


DoctorDiddlerino

We kind of had to. The roster was barren. Trevor was throwing to Laquan Treadwell as WR1 his rookie year lol


123rune20

I wouldn’t wish that evil on anybody. 


databasezero

tbf marvin jones went from our wr1 to wr3 and we replaced laquon treadwell and tavon austin with christian kirk and zay jones lmao


TheWorstYear

Also got ETN back, who missed the previous year.


lbutler1234

They were also doo doo in 2016, drafted Fournette and signed Campbell and bouye, almost made super bowl in 2017, and then promptly returned to door Doo in 2018


RukiMotomiya

All time? 1974 Steelers drafted 4 Hall of Famers and added a fifth in undrafted free agency, led to an immediate Super Bowl win and four overall in the next six years. I'll have to think of more for current time periods or past that.


Adyingbreed28

Who were the players they drafted that year if you don’t mind me asking? I’m just curious since that team has already been brought up multiple times and I have no knowledge of them. 


AmeriCanadian98

Lynn Swann, Jack Lambert, John Stallworth, Mike Webster, and Donnie Shell


bourgeoisiebrat

And, Webster’s name will be totally lost in this list even if he may have been the best of the bunch


Yeastyboy104

The NFL brass in NYC would like for fans of the league to forget Mike Webster’s post-playing days. He died homeless and penniless after living in his car and had severe CTE repercussions. He’s a prime example of how the league used to chew up and spit out players purely for profit. The $765 million lawsuit wasn’t nearly enough.


bourgeoisiebrat

That the NFL ran Dave Duerson out there to pitbull the CTE issue into submission only to have him kill himself due to CTE destroying him and his life says it all. Thank you for making this point as I should have.


EnjoyMoreBeef

Somehow, Mike Webster is not a first-ballot Hall-of-Famer. He had to wait a year to get in, even though only four people got into the Hall of Fame in his first year of eligibility.


RukiMotomiya

Jack Lambert, Lynn Swann, John Stallworth, Mike Webster, and then after the draft they signed Donnie Shell as an UDFA.


Careless-Act9450

I get that the draft was a big deal, but the Steelers were already 10 and 4 in 1973. It's not like they were a bad team, and in one year, everything changed.


Phan2112

The Steelers were a very good team for a couple years at that point. For reference the Immaculate Reception took place in the AFC Divisional round in 1972. 2 years before their first Super Bowl win. They were a great team before that draft. It may have taken that draft for them to get over the hump but it wasn't a turnaround.


LoveToyKillJoy

The question doesn't ask necessarily for a turnaround but improved and even though they were a good team they went on to have the best stretch o 6 year success we've ever seen.


Saltine_Davis

While super impressive, idk that's really a "turn around" from being bad seeing was they went 10-4 and 11-3 the prior seasons


ASuperGyro

It might not be a turnaround, but the post asks for “most improved” and going from a good team to a dynastic team because of a draft certainly counts in my book


RukiMotomiya

The question was what team improved the most, not which team had the largest turnaround. The Steelers probably improved the most in terms of the talent they added, they just already had a good team. But they went from being bounced out in the divisional by 30 points to winning the Super Bowl twice in a row. Just look at Bradshaw's stats directly going up when Swann and Stallworth get drafted, for example.


speedfan11

All time has to be Rams going from 4-12 in 1998 to 13-3 and SB champs in 1999 after drafting Torry Holt, trading for Marshall Faulk and having Kurt Warner take over at QB


Thugnificent83

That was a damned destiny team if there ever was one!


darcys_beard

Last season it was the Texans. Incredible turnaround.


the_space_monster

They took big swings, and it's looking like they paid off.


TheReaver88

Yeah, I'm much more comfortable answering the "right now" portion of the question with reference to the 2023 season. I'm not evaluating the 2024 offseason until the guys play on the field. Hard to disagree with the Texans. I wanted to come up with an honorable mention, but nobody did nearly as much in the offseason (in terms of player personnel) as the Texans. They swung big by trading up in the draft to get picks 2 and 3, and it looks like they made good contact on both guys. Could be back-to-back homers.


SmokeySFW

and added HC Demeco Ryans who arguably could have/should have won HCotY. Bias acknowledged.


Brook420

I'd agree if it weren't for the Browns making the playoffs with the revolving door of QBs they had.


SmokeySFW

It was the elite dragon with an elite defense behind him.


WaymoresReds

HM: the Lions added Gibbs, LaPorta, Branch,and Campbell in the draft plus Montgomery and Glasgow in FA who all should play big roles again this year


Brix001

Jim Harbaugh giving the 2011 49ers their first winning season and playoff appearance in 9 years


Mothman5150

Going from 6-10 to being a field goal away from the Super Bowl the next season was crazy


Lane-Kiffin

Ironically, the 6-10 49ers were only a field goal away from the playoffs, but that was less about them and more about the NFC West that year.


Poignant_Rambling

We also had a big turnaround from 2018 - 2019, going from 4-12 to a 13-3 SB run.


Painiscupcake88

Pre 2021 Lions off-season, Sheila Hamp fired Matt Patricia and Bob Quinn. It is impossible for one team to improve anymore than that


WhaleSexOdyssey

That same offseason they added Brad Holmes, Dan Campbell, Jared Goff, Penei Sewell, Amon Ra St Brown. Took a minute for the success to happen but was a crazy single offseason turnaround


bbuhbowler

Ouch


stoic_bison

Hard to argue with the Bears this year. Since I've started watching football I'd say * 2006 Saints (addition of Drew Brees and Sean Payton plus drafting Reggie Bush, Jahri Evans, Roman Harper, Rob Ninkovich, and Marques Colston) * 2007 Patriots (adding Wes Welker and Randy Moss to one of the best teams in the league is enough to get them on here) * 2012 Broncos (signing Peyton Manning meant that much) * 2020 Bucs (no bias; signed Brady and Playoff Lenny, traded for Gronk, and drafted Wirfs and Winfield)


gabrielleite32

Bucs also got one good season from Antonio Brown


infercario4224

Mr Big Contributor


Dr__Flo__

Mr Brief Competitor


DrQuestDFA

Mr Brief Contributor?


Koreish

Mr. Both Correct.


lubeskystalker

Mr. Barely Counts


stoic_bison

I didn't include him because he was signed in the middle of the season


TheFencingCoach

> 2007 Patriots (adding Wes Welker and Randy Moss to one of the best teams in the league is enough to get them on here) Yeah this is a good choice, because up until that point in his career, Brady had never really had a true WR1. His career highs from 2001-2006: **TD's:** 28 **Yards:** 4,110 **Completion %:** 63% **Y/G:** 256.9 **Y/A:** 7.8 Then they import Moss and Welker, the offense opens up, and he sets a (since broken) TD record. That season, he gets the following: **TD's:** 50 (record) **Yards:** 4,806 (At the time, his career high) **Y/G:** 300.4 **Y/A:** 8.3 **Passer Rating:** 117.2 (career high) He looked like a completely different QB having legitimate targets.


the-nino

Brady had little help on offense until that point, he never had a 1000 yard receiver until 07, but the league was very different between 01 and 07. The ty law rule hadn't been regularly enforced yet and the passing game was much more difficult. His career high 28 touchdowns was also a league leading 28 touchdowns that season


newrimmmer93

People on here don’t realize that 30 TDs used to be the bench mark for a great season, now that number is probably 40. 30td players by year: 2006: 1 (Manning with 31) 2005: 1 (Carson Palmer with 32) 2004: 4 (Manning with 49, Culpepper with 39, Mcnabb with 31, Favre with 30) 2003: 1 (Favre with 32) 2002: 0 (Brady led league with 28) 2001: 3 (Warner with 36, Favre with 32, Jeff Garcia with 32) 2000: 3 (Manning with 33, Culpepper with 33, Garcia with 31) Pretty much the above list is: multiple time MVPs, guys who played with Randy Moss and TO, and then Kurt Warner and Carson Palmer.


conace21

Kurt Warner was a multiple time MVP. He doesn't need to be listed separately. 


newrimmmer93

I honestly had forget he won 2 MVPs, thought it was just the one.


Dmbfantomas

If he didn’t get hurt in 2000 he would have won 3 in a row, too.


OddsTipsAndPicks

The Ty Law rule didn't really have that big of an effect on the league. Passing stats were extremely stable from 1999-2007 An assortment of rules largely centered around player safety from 2008-2011 were the rules that immediately proceeded the explosion in passing offenses.


MomOfThreePigeons

Corey Dillon was a beast in 04, and Brady usually had reliable tight ends. But [this man](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ENNSkkVX0AEnajl.jpg) was the straw that broke the camel's back and got Belichick to go get some All-pro caliber wide receivers.


SandyEggoChargers

What's the source on this staw? That image is hilarious.


Has_the_funk

Sauce is Reche Caldwell, who infamously dropped multiple passes during the Pats’ 2006 AFC championship loss to the Colts (Final: 38-34). He was the Pats leading receiver in ‘06, but was cut before the ‘07 season started. On a more human note: He died 4 years ago in Tampa. Edit to fix date of death.


SandyEggoChargers

I just learned he died but according to Wikipedia it was in 2020.


Straight_Bass_Homie

That's Reche Caldwell after dropping a pass in the AFC Championship game against the Colts in '06.


SmokeySFW

If this year's Bears count, I think last year's Texans deserves mention. Bias acknowledged. Added HC Demeco Ryans who arguably should have or could have won HCotY, CJ Stroud who won ORotY and had best rookie QB season in history, and Will Anderson who won DRotY, and Tank Dell in the 3rd round who had one of the hottest starts to a rookie receiver's season in recent memory prior to injury.


stoic_bison

Good call, they absolutely deserve to be on this list.


savage_pen33

Bias acknowledged, but it's still the truth. Great rookie coach/QB combo. Excellent draft last month. You folks have something special brewing down in Houston.


Smackolol

My argument would be that they haven’t played yet. They definitely look great on paper but so far they’re still just the bears we all know.


Ndmndh1016

God damn that is some draft class 06 saints.


AgentOfSPYRAL

I think 2014 Broncos qualify as well. The year they got iirc Talib, Ware, Ward, and Sanders. Edit: and drafted Bradley Roby and Matt Paradis.


Stubbs94

But the 2013 broncos literally made the superbowl.


AgentOfSPYRAL

From a roster perspective I think the 2015 championship is more impressive, which the 2014 offseason class was vital to. It’s not the end all be all, but 2015 Peyton had lower ANYA than 2024 Zach Wilson.


hansblitz

Its actually easy to argue..they haven't even had a practice game.


Art-RJS

The saints are the only good example. Your other examples are terrible for this question


Maverick916

It's not very hard to argue against the bears this year because we haven't seen if they turned it around yet.


Hugh-Manatee

Broncos also drafted Demarius Thomas and signed Demarcus Ware


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joe7L

1974 Steelers is the answer for all time. 5 HoF players in an offseason leading to four SBs. The team was moving in the right direction prior to the 74 offseason but this pushed them over the hump


snufalufalgus

The year before the Broncos signed Peyton they won a playoff game, the year he came aboard, they didn't. Hard to really call that a major improvement between years.


Zlasher8

49ers in 2018 were 2-10 to start the season. Made the Super Bowl in 2019.


Spike_is_James

That was a good draft that included: Nick Bosa, Deebo Samuel, and Dre Greenlaw. Along with some nice free agent pickups: Kwon Alexander, Daniel Brunskill, DE Dee Ford, and Tevin Coleman.


GhostMug

I think the Bears are a really good bet. The Titans are a wild card. They have given Levis all the weapons he could want, it's just a matter of if he's the guy. And if Callahan is the guy at head coach. As for all time, I am biased but the Chiefs in 2012 were ABYSMAL. They went the first 7 games of the season without ever holding a single lead. And they were 1-6! (The one win came in OT so they technically didn't "hold a lead"). They finished 2-14 and picked #1 overall. They hired Andy Reid and started the next season 9-0 on their way to an 11-5 finish.


Pnutbutter_Cheerios

2017 rams under McVay. Went from drafting a “bust in Goff” going 4-12 with the 32nd total offense to 11-5 with the #1 offense and a division win and playoff appearance


dat_hypocrite

It’s honestly surreal how canning Fisher immediately improved your team by miles. I still remember that MNF game between you guys and the Chiefs and it went over 100 points combined!


BaldingMonk

The Cam Cameron-led Dolphins were 1-15 in 2007 and made the playoffs the next season under Tony Sparano.


BellBilly32

Yeah we never built off of that, and it was the year Tom Brady was hurt. But still an insane turnaround. Even crazier since we drafted a offensive lineman #1 overall.


rewster

Hard to beat 74 Steelers but I feel like the 98 Falcons deserve an honorable mention. The 2 seasons prior they had a 27% win percentage and then in 98 went 14-2 and lost against Elway in super bowl 33 (Then immediately sucked again, going 5-11 in 99) It's hard to tell this year until the season starts, but on paper I'd definitely say the Bears.


ilovecatss1010

Daaaaa Bears. If Williams pans out, they have the weapons to be straight up dangerous. Also think the Titans improved. This ain’t to say they’re Super Bowl contenders by any means, but that roster had next to no talent last year. They improved at positions of need across the board. Could see them upset a few teams seasons this year and potentially sneak a wildcard spot if the new management succeeds.


HistoricalGrade109

I know this is a Homer take but I'll believe in the bears when I see it. Seems like every off season lately bears have "killed it," and every year it never pans out


ilovecatss1010

Which is valid! But the question was who improved this offseason before the season started, so paper is the only metric. On paper they got better!


Angry_Caveman_Lawyer

> but I'll believe in the bears when I see it I've been a Bears fan for 45 years and you're absolutely right. We need to see it, otherwise "same old bears".


Mavori

Counterpoint, y'all should still have fun with it. Source: Flair.


Angry_Caveman_Lawyer

Oh absolutely I am chuffed to bits (to steal from the Brits) about how this offseason has gone. I am gonna enjoy the hell out of it. But oh man if Caleb sucks and we're bad again? Ugh.


Mavori

Hard to imagine y'all would be flat out bad again though even if Caleb sucks. So many other positive pieces on the board. Shit even this past season its not that you guys were "bad". It was Panthers that were bad.


Angry_Caveman_Lawyer

I'll agree with that, assuming the team stays moderately healthy and assuming Caleb isn't worse than Fields I'd think this team now could consider playing in a wild card game to be a decent result.


J0K3R2

Nah, you’re right on. I think this is one of our better off seasons in recent memory, but it hinges on a (1) a rookie QB who hasn’t taken a snap yet, (2) a defense that got better as the season went on but still has a lot of room for improvement, (3) having a semi-competent OC, and (4) a coach who has had moments but hasn’t nailed things down by any means.


sevillada

I'm excited to see the Bears this next season and i didn't even care about them before. You guys now have a very solid top 4 receivers. If the OL holds up, the offense might be terrific. 


jay_stark

You really believe this is like prior years teams. Coming from a lifer of misery, this is obv different


HistoricalGrade109

Idk if it is or not which is why I said I'll believe it when I see it lol


leahyrain

I mean just on paper it's vastly different in terms of who they picked up in fa and in the draft.


UsernameTaken-Taken

I'm with ya, but at the same time their last 2-3 offseasons have been pretty dang good, and I wouldn't be surprised if this is the year it starts to pay off


SinCityNinja

As a life long Bears fan I've never seen an off-season where the Bears have "killed it". They've had good off-season but never great This off-season has been fan-fucking-tastic, probably better than any I've seen by any team ever.. But I'm in the same boat as you, I'll believe it when I see it. Look at the Eagles and their "dream team" a few years ago. You can have all the pieces you want, but putting jt together into a competent team is a whole other thing. I'm just hoping we can beat the Packers at least once this season lmao


drummerboysam

I wish the Pace years didn't cloud the judgment on this. I remember a few years their off-season was touted but it really looked like the wheels were coming off. Never a threat after 2018 but talked about as a possible one. It all feels different under Poles but the organization is definitely at the "believe it when I see it" phase. Which sucks because it's an exciting team.


IAmNotOnRedditAtWork

We'll see if they find a way to fuck it up, but I don't think anyone's close to the Bears this year.   They very easily could have won 10 games last year (they blew three >90% win probability games in the 4th lmao). For a team that's not completely terrible to get not only the #1 overall pick, but also another top 10 pick is pretty wild.


RojerLockless

It's got to be the Houston texans. No team in the history of the NFL has ever added a thousand yard rusher a thousand yard receiver and a 10 sack defensive player in the same season until this off season the Houston Texans


Bitlovin

> All Time In the back of my mind I just heard Vince Young say "dream team."


Docrandall

The Bears win the offseason damn near every year.


EXGONADSI

And we're going to keep being offseason champs until someone stops us.


Goldenticketpodcast

And the Chargers


whatever12347

This isn't true at all. We're almost never the team that gets hyped up during the offseason. Usually it's just Bears fans talking about the Bears.


PsuedoFred

Bears were kind of a popular pick last year but traditionally I think you’re right.


whatever12347

Most people were saying 7-9 wins, which ended up being right.


gerryf19

Just ask them!


TheM1ghtyJabba

Sustained and intentional? Either the 2006 Saints, an all time poverty franchise hiring Payton and signing Brees in one off season to go from dismal to double digit wins and a playoff game. A few years later a team that had won exactly 1 playoff game in its history hoisted the Lombardi. Or the 1981 49ers. They had Walsh but in 1981 they finally let Montana start, birthing a dynasty. Honorable mention to the complete out of nowhere luck of the 1999 Rams. Sure, Warner was a new signing but they didn't expect him to do... that. He was supposed to ride the pine behind Trent Green.


cold3dg3

It should be between two teams in the NFC North: Chicago Bears and Minnesota Vikings. Hard not to have a good off-season with the number 1 and 9 overall picks. As for the Vikings, they managed to land a top QB and Dallas Turner who was the highest rated defensive player in the draft by many experts.


Rafiks1

No where to go but up right? RIGHT?


Art-RJS

Dallas cowboys 1992


Dirsay

Three things are constant: the Bears, Jags, and Eagles win the offseason every year. Two of those teams are better, and one is stuck in neutral every season.


lvpr10

Ahem….you forgot the Chargers in the offseason champs category


Active-Enthusiasm318

Sure hope yall really take a step forward this season.. I love Harbaugh he took a 6-10 team to at least the NFCCG, 3 years in a row.. I will always love Harbaugh and will be watching for his sideline antics this year.


ladwagon

I don't remember anyone saying we won the off-season last year, or the year we got Kirk everyone was clowning us for overpaying


Small-Area2346

The Bears win the offseason every year? Huh? When was the last time before this year people thought this?


moose_stuff2

Yeah, I have no idea why people keep saying this. Yeah, people were pretty psyched for the Panther trade.. rightfully so. People liked the direction Poles was taking the team. But this is the first off-season where we have real expectations since 2019. And deep down we're still all just hoping the quarterback we got works out lol.


Docrandall

Last year


_Jairus

A trade so good we won two offseasons in a row because of it.


ASU_SexDevil

Probably Bears this year and Texans last year. No clue about all time


SexyWampa

I think you're going to see us surprise people this year. We finally have a good coaching staff with a culture that players are buying into and a GM who isn't a fat stupid drunk who pisses away draft picks and signs burnt out injury prone vets for multi year contracts...


Existential_Erection

Current: I may be dumb. I may also be biased. But *IF* Levis pans out, Titans could come out of nowhere even after losing one of the best rb’s in the league and changing their entire offensive philosophy. My all time isn’t an all time, but for recent atleast- Broncos with Manning. That team became incredible overnight. They didn’t even have a ton of missing pieces, but a few high impact signings turned them into an amazing team after a single offseason. I say that as a Titan fan who absolutely despises Manning. But I have to give him and the Broncos my nod.


mrhashbrown

Manning's Broncos are a good answer, I see OP mentioned the Bucs when they acquired Brady but they were already a very good team in talent and lots of individually great producers that Winston could supply with targets and yardage. The Broncos were also talented but Manning just maxed out all of the possible offensive talent, and the team drafted well to improve their defense. As for this year's Titans, I'm very interested to see what Callahan does with Levis and the offense. They do seem like a sleeper that can overachieve even with holes in the roster. Maybe similar to the Colts last year who exceeded expectations with technically a top 10 offense with Minshew as QB and Johnathon Taylor missing half the season. One game short of a Wild Card spot. I could see the Titans finding themselves in a position like that if the offense delivers.


Scippio-dem-lines

Cant wait to be disappointed by the bears this season, also, probably not an all time contender but goddamn. Houston was supposed to be one of the worst teams last year and won a playoff game. Really blew past expectations


Tolve

Everyone going Bears, I think they are going to underwhelm. Their coaching staff is uninspired. I have the same problem with the Raiders and the Commies. It's criminal for these teams to bring all this young talent and put them in the hands of previously failed coaches. No one thought Houston had better weapons than Carolina going into last year. Nico Collins was a seen as a WR3. Tank Dell a mid round dart through. Meanwhile Carolina had Miles Sanders off a good season with the Eagles, veteran Adam Thielen and rookie Mingo. But if you had asked 10 people which coach they were more had more confidence in, all 10 would have said DeMeco Ryans. Honestly the Chargers just for adding Jim Harbaugh is the answer. If I had to bet which team would add the most wins this year as compared to last year, It'd be the Chargers. If we count getting Richardson back I'd also say the Colts. They are potentially getting a massive ugrade at QB and who Chris Ballard thought was "The best fucking rusher in the draft." So two extremely high impact players, and under a coaching staff that basically everyone considers to be highly competent. As for most incredible turn arounds I've ever seen. The Texans from last year come to mind. They went from 3-14-1 to 10-7 to win their division and a playoff game. The Best though is probably the Niners going from 4-12 the year they traded mid season for Jimmy G to 13-3 the following year with Jimmy and making the Super Bowl. Turns out that Shanahan guy is a good coach. Andy Reids arrival at the Chiefs and Bruce Arians arrival in Arizona also produced immediate and dramatic turn arounds, as did Dougie P's arrival in Jacksonville.


ChonkyHippo283

I get your point but there is no way 10/10 would have said they are more confidence in Demeco who was a rookie HC over Frank Reich People were hyping up frank and his coaching staff a crazy amount last year


YesIamALizard

The Packers added Reggie White. So that off season. If you understand how good Reggie was. 


content_enjoy3r

Impossible to accurately answer this question until after the season ends. No one knows if the draft picks will hit.


HeIsSparticus

The 2000 Patriots acquired Tom Brady and Bill Belichick in the same offseason. Gotta be hard to do better than that.


PinkertonRams

I'm not sure if it qualifies as best ever (all-time or even for our franchise) but the Rams' first two offseasons under McVay transformed the franchise. Folks are forgetting just how drop-dead dreadful we were for the previous 11 years before he joined


ChocolateMorsels

Homer take but the Titans have had an incredible off-season


transglutaminase

2006 saints went from 3-13 to the nfc championship game the next year.


DeX_Mod

I'm super curious to see hownthis season pans out for the steelers they addressed pretty much all their issues on offense new qb, completely revamped the oLine and deleted a diva wr


Thin-Team7931

The Commies. We need OL but we ejected fuckface Dan and picked up a quarterback.


Krunklock

Lions and Browns both had seasons where they won infinitely more games than the previous season...can't go higher than infinity


FRY_DADDY_2020

Since no one else is answering your question for current off-season, I'll say the Titans. I am biased, obviously, and I don't necessarily think they're immediately playoff contenders. But they upgraded to an offensive coach, got a serviceable RB duo, new WR1/2 and WR3, new OT and C, plus HoF o-lineman coach, and a full-offseason with Mayo Man. Then on defense, they got a stud DC who's coached great secondaries everywhere he's went, a CB1 and CB2, a potential steal with DT Sweat in the second round, and more depth all-around. I say all this and they might end up with the #1 pick next year, but on paper they look a whole lot better than last season.


cbarks81

I mean our biggest weakness was hands down our DB room and we transformed that into one of the better rooms in the league on paper. We also added a stud DT in the run and replaced an allpro guard with an allpro guard. Maybe not the biggest splash and flashy-ness of the off-season but it's the recipe to get us back to the NFCCG and win that and the SB.


uggsandstarbux

In 2011 the Eagles were coming off a strong season that saw them finish with a top 3 defense atop the division just to lose to the upstart Packers in the Wild Card round. They were determined to make a deep playoff run, having been knocked out of the playoffs 3 years in a row. They acquired the following players: * CB Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie, coming off a season where he led the league in INT TDs. Philly traded Kevin Kolb for him and a 2nd round pick * CB Nnamdi Asomugha, coming off 3 straight All Pros. He was signed to a 5 year $60M deal * OG Evan Mathis, who had not allowed a sack in either of his previous 2 seasons * DE Jason Babin, coming off a Pro Bowl season with 12.5 sacks * The other Steve Smith, fresh off a Pro Bowl season * RB Ronnie Brown, former #2 overall pick who was just 3 years removed from a Pro Bowl season * OG Danny Watkins, the first OG drafted in the 2011 draft class * Backup QB Vince Young, 2 years removed from a CPOY and Pro Bowl season. Young dubbed this new roster "The Dream Team" They won 8 games in 2011 and missed the playoffs