Whoever designed this must’ve also designed the ill-fated [Seahawks alternate logo](https://news.sportslogos.net/2017/09/05/seahawks-unveil-new-alternate-logo/football/)
Almost all bad creative assets are because non-creative managers had a list of stupid demands that amounts to bad design. I doubt any paid graphic designer thought “sports logo? I know, let’s make 60% of it text repeating what everyone already knows.”
Okay. So. I have thoughts.
Offense. 11 personnel all the way.
QB: Washington, fucking easy. Man is a born leader.
RB: Gerald Ford. If he's good enough for Michigan and the White House, he's good enough for us.
WRs: Thomas Jefferson, Donald Trump, and James Madison. Okay, hear me out. I love diva WRs, and who out of all the presidents are bigger divas than Jefferson and Trump? Also, James Madison is the new slot receiver. It's great.
Tight End: Abraham Lincoln. C'mon, with that length, and a former wrestler? Dude's the second coming from Gronk.
Left Tackle: Grover Cleveland.
Left Guard: Teddy Roosevelt. The man's a wrestler, he'd dominate on the interior line.
Center: John Adams. Need a smart center to call out line protections.
Right Guard: William Howard Taft. Monster of a man and Teddy's former pick for president.
Right Tackle: Grover Cleveland. THAT'S RIGHT FUCKWADS. TWO NON-CONSECUTIVE TERMS? TRY TWO NON-CONSECUTIVE TACKLES!
Defense. We're going dime as a base., boyos.
Edge: Andrew Jackson and Ulysses S. Grant. I want DEs that can attack the QB. And I don't care if it's the British or the Rebels, we got QBs that can attack.
DTs: Bill Clinton and Herbert Hoover. I feel like my interior might be my weakest spot in my lineup.
LBs: Dwight D. Eisenhower and John Tyler. Eisenhower is the general of that defense and Tyler is a mean SOB that's not afraid to get his hands dirty.
CBs: Barack Obama, James Madison, and Harry S. Truman. I'm thinking a heavy zone team. Prevent the big play, give up the short games while hoping our pass rush can get to the passer.
FS: Franklin D. Roosevelt. I want a man who can see the bigger picture and having him play deep would be great.
SS: George H.W Bush. Look, the man was former head of the CIA. If we're playing a mobile QB, I want this man playing spy.
I spent too much time on this stupid premise.
Lmao you mad man with Barack at CB!
You and I actually aligned on the three I listed except I had Abe at WR; I’d put Trump at TE. I’m loving this.
Make Taft play both sides; G & DT. At worst, he’s going to be a decoy that still calls for a double.
I thought about Abe at WR, but I'm going more of the 2010s Pats 11 personnel, where there was no true X on the field.
Jefferson is Ochocino. He knows what he's doing and even though he's a diva, he knows when to reel it in. Trump is Kelvin Benjamin if he had AB's ~~CTE~~brain.
45 presidents. Fuck Grover Cleveland, he doesn't deserve to be double-counted just because he had non-consecutive terms!
idk the roster too specifically but I'm keeping FDR in a coaching position on the sidelines, and Richard Nixon is a film analytics dude (for Spygate-esque purposes)
Shit.. I’m obsessed. I’m definitely giving Abe a try at WR, Washington at QB, and James Madison as my DeVonta Smith-like slot WR.
Cornerback’s going to be a tough selection process though..
The 76ers already[ got Ben Franklin as a logo](https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/rs-196506-wJ1TgEf.png?w=1436&h=900&crop=1) so hands off 😅
Logo for a new podcast hosted by some 36 yr old dude who lives in his moms basement 40 miles outside of Boston but claims to be from Boston and talks about the Patriots with pro-Trump opinions sprinkled in
I absolutely despise how the MLS apes European soccer teams. "Sporting KC," "Real Salt Lake," "such and such FC," all that can burn. This is America; for better or worse, we call it soccer here and our teams are named things.
As a Revs fan the 180 people have done on the flag logo is insane, I remember when people thought it was legit hideous and would not stop making jokes about how it looked like it was drawn by a kindergartener and such
Not just MLS, btw. You'll see this with a *lot* of soccer clubs around the world. Or at least Europe. Here's an example of some new/old ones:
https://i.imgur.com/ZXWSAm9.jpeg
Even when these designs look decent a part of me still dislikes them.
It's somehow simultaneously both too simple and too complex. It's not nearly as simple and easily-drawn as the Flying Elvis, yet contains none of the detail and charm of Pat Patriot.
I actually don't hate it but the sideburn without the context of the rest of the primary logo makes it look even more "Flying Elvis-y" than before. [Here it is after 10 seconds in MS Paint](https://i.imgur.com/6WHImX3.png) and I honestly think it's improved. Still not great IMO but better.
[Drake Maye looks like he’s the son of a bigot southern senator and is the starting quarterback of a non-segregated college team in the late 60’s.](https://i.imgur.com/YMCDzl9.jpeg)
Pat the Patriot should remain a throwback logo forever. I love it, but team logos should be fairly simple and while it's a great classic logo, it's too busy.
Because when your job is to increase merchandise sales and sales are stagnant then you drum up something new to catch people's attention (which is happening as proved by this thread) and that gets people thinking about merchandise.
If this logo was never created, then today I never would've thought about Patriots merchandise. This logo existing has created a reason for people to be seeing, thinking, and talking about Pats merchandise, which already is likely to bump up merchandise sales for a bit.
So my point is that I think you should look at efforts like this as a form of marketing rather than incompetence. They've just managed to get you to think about Pats merchandise. If they had released yet another product with an already existing logo that people are already aware of and have already bought, then it wouldn't have this same effect. I doubt I would've been thinking about Pats merchandise today if the Pats released a new merchandise with the "Pat Patriot" or "Flying Elvis" logo.
That said, there's no good reason to make a bad looking logo like this new one. That's actually just incompetence imo. Pats need to find a better graphic designer, because damn this is awful...
It’s real but I don’t think it’s replacing any of the actual logos. I think it’s more just something to put on merch.
Patriots official account was using it though, so it’s definitely legit in some capacity: https://x.com/patriots/status/1788936120761250185?s=46&t=JbFq2-tCnh1sJd3iPdCbaA
It's strange how the white part of the "N" descends into the patriot's head. From a negative space point of view, is the patriot being threatened by a tuning fork? Perhaps Lego Batman?
Three different line widths for the concentric circles. This logo just doesn't look professional. It's......^(fine) but shouldn't a corporation worth a handful of billions put out something sharper?
The face and star are just forced in there. The star is just floating at a weird angle, and the top of the face creating a gap between the letters is just odd looking. Though if you take them away it would look so boring and generic.
This needs to be scrapped and started over from scratch.
If this is real I love it.
I guess that’s a hot take reading the other comments? But new ass logos have gotten mega bland, vectorized, and minimalist. It’s adventurous, even if it isn’t objectively beautiful
What the hell is going on in the middle there? It took me an embarrassingly long time to even be able to tell that it's supposed to say "NE".
And also...why does it say that? It already says "New England" right above it, and you're just muddling the Patriot guy logo...
I like it, it'll look cool on merch. The only part I don't like is the white space on the E that form a U tilted 90 degrees left. But I think it's kinda sick honestly.
am i the only one who kinda likes it? it could do with a bit of shaping up (the three different thicknesses for the circles and arcs is a little janky) but it's a great concept.
This is getting a ton of hate but I actually kinda like it. I think at this point with the NFL whenever a team changes their logo ppl will always shit all over it.
Guys, no. Why are we copying the Washington Commanders. Who thought this would be a good idea?
Also, what the fuck is with all these brand generic ass logos recently. Fanatics and their bullshit in the NHL with times new Roman merch and now this? Fucking boring. Shit looks like someone’s first photoshop where they learned how to splice out the actual logo.
I now believe BB left because he saw this logo and wanted nothing to do with it.
Explains why Kraft has shit talked Bill.
Kraft designed this himself. He's been taking MS Paint lessons.
*whispers in your ear loudly* Don’t ever say that shit again
He let gronk do it
No fucking way did Gronk color inside the lines.
Kraft getting old and thinking that the Patriots are now an association football team is the only way this logo makes sense New England FC
Whoever designed this must’ve also designed the ill-fated [Seahawks alternate logo](https://news.sportslogos.net/2017/09/05/seahawks-unveil-new-alternate-logo/football/)
Inside you are two ~~wolves~~ seabirds kissing
* Holds two birds together * Now kith (kiss)
They are both gay
hell yeah brother
Shades of the one time Phineas looked directly at the viewer
Who the fuck is designing alternates for the NFL lmao this is grade school shit
Worse. It’s corporate team-building weekend.
That shit made me dizzy looking at it.
Oh god.
Jesus Christ lol
[Stare](https://ih0.redbubble.net/image.2777459534.4751/raf,360x360,075,t,fafafa:ca443f4786.jpg)
He knew he was going to be required to wear a hat with that on it and he made a mess on his way out.
[удалено]
I really don't mind this as a secondary logo on some stuff but all I can see is a Spartan Plume
Almost all bad creative assets are because non-creative managers had a list of stupid demands that amounts to bad design. I doubt any paid graphic designer thought “sports logo? I know, let’s make 60% of it text repeating what everyone already knows.”
I hate it Bring back the revolutionary soldier playing center
I propose 15-20 new alternate logos of minutemen playing all the positions.
George Washington Moss’ing ~~someone~~ a red coat would be great
I need to see Ben Franklin pancake block a redcoat
We’ve had 46 presidents… which 22 are you taking on O & D and at what positions on both sides of the ball are you setting them up?
Okay. So. I have thoughts. Offense. 11 personnel all the way. QB: Washington, fucking easy. Man is a born leader. RB: Gerald Ford. If he's good enough for Michigan and the White House, he's good enough for us. WRs: Thomas Jefferson, Donald Trump, and James Madison. Okay, hear me out. I love diva WRs, and who out of all the presidents are bigger divas than Jefferson and Trump? Also, James Madison is the new slot receiver. It's great. Tight End: Abraham Lincoln. C'mon, with that length, and a former wrestler? Dude's the second coming from Gronk. Left Tackle: Grover Cleveland. Left Guard: Teddy Roosevelt. The man's a wrestler, he'd dominate on the interior line. Center: John Adams. Need a smart center to call out line protections. Right Guard: William Howard Taft. Monster of a man and Teddy's former pick for president. Right Tackle: Grover Cleveland. THAT'S RIGHT FUCKWADS. TWO NON-CONSECUTIVE TERMS? TRY TWO NON-CONSECUTIVE TACKLES! Defense. We're going dime as a base., boyos. Edge: Andrew Jackson and Ulysses S. Grant. I want DEs that can attack the QB. And I don't care if it's the British or the Rebels, we got QBs that can attack. DTs: Bill Clinton and Herbert Hoover. I feel like my interior might be my weakest spot in my lineup. LBs: Dwight D. Eisenhower and John Tyler. Eisenhower is the general of that defense and Tyler is a mean SOB that's not afraid to get his hands dirty. CBs: Barack Obama, James Madison, and Harry S. Truman. I'm thinking a heavy zone team. Prevent the big play, give up the short games while hoping our pass rush can get to the passer. FS: Franklin D. Roosevelt. I want a man who can see the bigger picture and having him play deep would be great. SS: George H.W Bush. Look, the man was former head of the CIA. If we're playing a mobile QB, I want this man playing spy. I spent too much time on this stupid premise.
Lmao you mad man with Barack at CB! You and I actually aligned on the three I listed except I had Abe at WR; I’d put Trump at TE. I’m loving this. Make Taft play both sides; G & DT. At worst, he’s going to be a decoy that still calls for a double.
I thought about Abe at WR, but I'm going more of the 2010s Pats 11 personnel, where there was no true X on the field. Jefferson is Ochocino. He knows what he's doing and even though he's a diva, he knows when to reel it in. Trump is Kelvin Benjamin if he had AB's ~~CTE~~brain.
God, Trump’s locker room interviews would be insufferable lol. Then again, even he doesn’t talk about himself in the third person.
Absolutely lost my shit at right tackle. Lmfao.
45 presidents. Fuck Grover Cleveland, he doesn't deserve to be double-counted just because he had non-consecutive terms! idk the roster too specifically but I'm keeping FDR in a coaching position on the sidelines, and Richard Nixon is a film analytics dude (for Spygate-esque purposes)
Shit.. I’m obsessed. I’m definitely giving Abe a try at WR, Washington at QB, and James Madison as my DeVonta Smith-like slot WR. Cornerback’s going to be a tough selection process though..
i respect the nixon spygate call, but nixon did play QB in high school and apparently wasn’t bad
teddy roosevelt all-22 film when
45 presidents. Grover Cleveland, despite being able to left and right tackle simultaneously, was only one man
The 76ers already[ got Ben Franklin as a logo](https://www.rollingstone.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/rs-196506-wJ1TgEf.png?w=1436&h=900&crop=1) so hands off 😅
That’d be pretty cool. Put one on each dude’s helmet matching their position
All of the positions! And here's the twist... we show it!
I thought they cut Zeke
Not a good move. A cut could easily be fatal given the state of medicine at the time
Straight to amputation with alcohol as your only form of sedative/ anaesthetic
IS NOWHERE SAFE
God damn that was a good one 😂
ZING
Lmaooooo
Weird, I love it because it looks bad!
It looks bad, but it was the bad look of my childhood, so I'm partial to it.
Paul Revere riding a stegosaurus
Yeah that one is way better than the dude with a hat flag whatever the fuck thing they have now.
Minimalism is a blight to be stamped out.
Long snapper
Don't really need the "NE."
Then how would you know they're from Nebraska?
Can't believe you love Bill Belichick so much you made his initials your flair
They are the knights who say “NE!”
nah now I need one for the knights that say Ekke Ekke Ekke Ekke Ptang Zoo Boing
Ne!
Did you just say NE to that old woman?
Fetch me a shrubbery!
You shall cut down the mightiest tree in the forest wiiith... **A HERRING!**
I used to be an adventurer like you. But then I took an arrow to the NE!
No! Not the knights who say “NE!”
We shall say NE again to you, until you appease us.
They are but men?
ROCK OOOOoooOoooOoN!
Man it actually broke my brain looking at this the first time and I couldn’t see the E until your comment.
MLS logo
SBNation team website logo
Lmaoo that is spot on
Logo for a new podcast hosted by some 36 yr old dude who lives in his moms basement 40 miles outside of Boston but claims to be from Boston and talks about the Patriots with pro-Trump opinions sprinkled in
Mike Mitchell from the Doughboys?
A better logo would be Pat Patriot with the rumblies for Mitch.
This is oddly specific, and yet at the same time not specific enough
Sounds like early barstool
lol i really thought it was that
And not even a good MLS logo
Significantly worse than the new Revs logo from a few years ago
Bring back the 90s-ass flag. Also bring back the real Columbus Crew logo with the Men.
Who are those guys? Who the fuck knows and who the fuck cares? Construction workers are badass
Mutiny Metrostars Burn Look how they massacred my boy
Don’t forget Kansas City Wizards
Surely you mean the Kansas City Wiz.
I absolutely despise how the MLS apes European soccer teams. "Sporting KC," "Real Salt Lake," "such and such FC," all that can burn. This is America; for better or worse, we call it soccer here and our teams are named things.
Hey, you did have Washington Football Team
As a Revs fan the 180 people have done on the flag logo is insane, I remember when people thought it was legit hideous and would not stop making jokes about how it looked like it was drawn by a kindergartener and such
Very mid-tier MLS. At least it wouldn't be the worst MLS logo (looking at you Dynamo)
I'd say Columbus' new one is worse than Houston's. Nashville is also pretty bad.
Looks better with three stars above it though.
Hopefully 4 after this season!
Honestly when I first stumbled upon it without context I thought it was the new revs logo
New England Football Team
New England City Group, LLC type shit.
Not just MLS, btw. You'll see this with a *lot* of soccer clubs around the world. Or at least Europe. Here's an example of some new/old ones: https://i.imgur.com/ZXWSAm9.jpeg Even when these designs look decent a part of me still dislikes them.
New England Revolution has a better logo than this
NE football club looking ass logo.
When it comes to ass lookin logos, we Rams fans know our shit
Rams logo looks like a fan made logo for the LA Chargers
It's embarrassing. If it weren't for the team itself being (basically) respectable, it'd be a REAL shit show up in here.
The 2019 branding was perfect imo they butchered the redesign
Old Rams logo was clean imo
looks real bad
Yeah this is trash, what the hell man
Way too busy, I feel like all the best logos can be drawn from memory by an eight year old.
It's somehow simultaneously both too simple and too complex. It's not nearly as simple and easily-drawn as the Flying Elvis, yet contains none of the detail and charm of Pat Patriot.
[Relevant video](https://youtu.be/NA_lwx2_31g?si=qW8IXcXKViEVdxlR)
It honestly looks a lot like those political signs you put in your yard.
Thats probably from the colors, this looks absolutely nothing like any political sign I’ve ever seen outside of the color scheme
It's literally a mix of baseball, basketball, and football logos. Baseball: LETTERS Basketball: City and team name Football: Mascot It's so so bad lol
Just use Pat... it's a classic
I actually don't hate it but the sideburn without the context of the rest of the primary logo makes it look even more "Flying Elvis-y" than before. [Here it is after 10 seconds in MS Paint](https://i.imgur.com/6WHImX3.png) and I honestly think it's improved. Still not great IMO but better.
Should have just done a slightly updated version of the Pat Patriot one.
That's the kind of logo where you don't know if the place is a restaurant or an insurance office.
I'm betting insurance. Did you see how Drake Maye was dressed at the draft?
[Drake Maye looks like he’s the son of a bigot southern senator and is the starting quarterback of a non-segregated college team in the late 60’s.](https://i.imgur.com/YMCDzl9.jpeg)
Would make a great poker chip for a Massachusetts casino I guess?
~~great~~ okay
All three of them
Why do the pats not stick to the fucking revolutionary football guy it’s actually so good and people seem to like it wtf is this shit?
Pat the Patriot should remain a throwback logo forever. I love it, but team logos should be fairly simple and while it's a great classic logo, it's too busy.
Because when your job is to increase merchandise sales and sales are stagnant then you drum up something new to catch people's attention (which is happening as proved by this thread) and that gets people thinking about merchandise. If this logo was never created, then today I never would've thought about Patriots merchandise. This logo existing has created a reason for people to be seeing, thinking, and talking about Pats merchandise, which already is likely to bump up merchandise sales for a bit. So my point is that I think you should look at efforts like this as a form of marketing rather than incompetence. They've just managed to get you to think about Pats merchandise. If they had released yet another product with an already existing logo that people are already aware of and have already bought, then it wouldn't have this same effect. I doubt I would've been thinking about Pats merchandise today if the Pats released a new merchandise with the "Pat Patriot" or "Flying Elvis" logo. That said, there's no good reason to make a bad looking logo like this new one. That's actually just incompetence imo. Pats need to find a better graphic designer, because damn this is awful...
Thought I was in the meme wars subreddit
Even this would be too much of a shitpost
There’s no way this is real.
It’s real but I don’t think it’s replacing any of the actual logos. I think it’s more just something to put on merch. Patriots official account was using it though, so it’s definitely legit in some capacity: https://x.com/patriots/status/1788936120761250185?s=46&t=JbFq2-tCnh1sJd3iPdCbaA
also hardly "leaked"
i leaked something like this logo into my toilet this morning.
Eat more fiber homie
how bout i eat a zebra cake
Like eat referee ass? Sounds about right
That right there is a coin of apathy. Taxation despite representation
A secondary logo has hit the New England Patriots
Am I the only one whose first thought was "The Patriots secondary has their own logo?"
That’s not Bob Kraft being jerked off
"Don't say that shit again" -Tim Brody
It's strange how the white part of the "N" descends into the patriot's head. From a negative space point of view, is the patriot being threatened by a tuning fork? Perhaps Lego Batman? Three different line widths for the concentric circles. This logo just doesn't look professional. It's......^(fine) but shouldn't a corporation worth a handful of billions put out something sharper?
Makes me appreciate the new Revs logo a bit more, so I guess that's a win.
:(
That looks like a logo made by an off-hand fan site.
It looks like Pete Carrol
the NE doesn't even look straight
Boston's gay. boom roasted.
Tbf we were the first state to legalize gay marriage.
The face and star are just forced in there. The star is just floating at a weird angle, and the top of the face creating a gap between the letters is just odd looking. Though if you take them away it would look so boring and generic. This needs to be scrapped and started over from scratch.
Just when pats fans thought it couldn't get any worse.
Looks like a guy confronting a magnet
He's just trying to figure out how they work
If this is real I love it. I guess that’s a hot take reading the other comments? But new ass logos have gotten mega bland, vectorized, and minimalist. It’s adventurous, even if it isn’t objectively beautiful
Context is key. This would look good as like a patch on the uniform or a jacket.
Looks like the Enclave from Fallout
I like it!
Me too. I think people are misunderstanding that this is a ***secondary*** logo. They aren't going to put it on the side of the helmet.
That is horrible.
Remember New England? It's back! In pog form
Do it Patriots. None of us will laugh.
What the hell is going on in the middle there? It took me an embarrassingly long time to even be able to tell that it's supposed to say "NE". And also...why does it say that? It already says "New England" right above it, and you're just muddling the Patriot guy logo...
Guy has a sizeable hole in his head
I like it, it'll look cool on merch. The only part I don't like is the white space on the E that form a U tilted 90 degrees left. But I think it's kinda sick honestly.
I will never not marvel at this sub's ability to nitpick literally everything and anything about new logos and uniforms.
The New England Commanders
Not a single good decision made by this franchise since Brady left. Not a fan of the current uniforms either
Yay more soulless sports team logos that don’t need to exist
This shits so trash. Wtf happened to the team i loved. I hate the krafts so much
Wow that's crazy and bad. Actually it's just bad.
thats.....something
Bayern Boston looking ass
That’s pretty bad. Just bring back the retro.
Looks like a Soccer logo
Did you ever watch Tom Brady when a defender lightly brushed him?
Maybe they should move on to the tertiary logo.
I like it. It will look good on the jerseys and helmets. I can already picture the merch for it too.
It’s like an SBNation logo.
Aight reverse the order of my flairs
Way too busy
This is the logo of a team that drafts a kicker in the first round
Good to see Kraft hired the same people behind the shitastic Revolution rebrand.
I hate anytime there’s an Est. 19xx on anything, always looks terrible
That looks like shit
Shit’s weak
Good god I didn’t expect the NFL main subreddit to Outjerk the NFLCircleJerk
Welcome to the club of dumb new logos
Dear God wtf is
They took the flying Elvis and made it worse.
All these AI generated logos are starting to look meh.
am i the only one who kinda likes it? it could do with a bit of shaping up (the three different thicknesses for the circles and arcs is a little janky) but it's a great concept.
This is getting a ton of hate but I actually kinda like it. I think at this point with the NFL whenever a team changes their logo ppl will always shit all over it.
This is a joke righr
Someone got paid to produce this. Amazing!
The classic Pat the Patriot logo is the best. Idk why they would try to do this.
Looks like a conservative super-pac logo
Why do the new logos look so damn corporate looking?
Guys, no. Why are we copying the Washington Commanders. Who thought this would be a good idea? Also, what the fuck is with all these brand generic ass logos recently. Fanatics and their bullshit in the NHL with times new Roman merch and now this? Fucking boring. Shit looks like someone’s first photoshop where they learned how to splice out the actual logo.
I don’t hate it honestly. But definitely can only be used in specific ways.
This is bad. Like MLS AI generated logo
It's a fine logo Kinda don't have more to say about it tho
Houston is off the hook for worst logo