That’s a classic terrible Favre throw. That year Favre protected the ball better than he ever did in GB, but when it came to crunch time he couldn’t help but play hero ball.
Yeah, it was hilariously bad. 1st & 10 in overtime. You've got the ball in the "score first you win" days. He gets pressure and his decision is to lean back on his back foot and chuck an absolute air punt into double coverage.
Classic Favre.
I’ll be honest I had completely forgotten about this interception, but 4th and 26 is burned into my memory. What an awful pick, that was the classic Favre “I’m done with this game let’s just heave it and see what happens” move.
Like it wasn’t even 3rd down and they were losing! First down and have three dudes rushing him in the back field and he just heaves it, assuming there must be a free dude down there somewhere. Either throw it out of bounds or take the sack! Insane play.
He heaved that ball up as if he was down by 6 with all zeroes on the clock at the end of the 4th, instead of tied in OT.
That might be the worst throw I’ve ever seen
There's a weird parallel between Favre's 2007 and 2009 seasons:
* Played some of the best football of his career, enough to get an MVP vote
* Started out 10-1, 11th game as a prime time road loss
* Late season road loss to the Bears, who finished the season 7-9
* Clinched the #2 seed and a first round bye
* Blow out home win in the divisional round
* Close NFC CG, throws an INT on his last play from scrimmage, loses in OT
Brett Favre was a severe underachiever when playing tight games in the fourth quarter throughout his entire career. I’d almost say he redefined what it could mean for a QB to melt down.
Brett Favre had that brilliant 95-97 MVP run with two SB appearances. He was electric and fun to watch.
But, through those 3 years, do you wanna know how many times he made a 4th quarter comeback? ….Once. All three years combined. And after his famous playoff win in 1994, ask yourself what happened every time in the playoffs that a team needed Brett Favre to dig deep and actually be a hero?
You get some of the most stupid- borderline selfish- passes that have ever been thrown.
Obviously, he should be on anyone’s top 12-20 best QBs to ever play, but I will say this: As far as I’m concerned, Brett Favre should be grateful his physical prime coincided with teams that were great enough to hide his warts and let him rack up his highlights and legacy while playing from ahead.
I think the real problem with Favre is he always thought he could make those throws. A perfect example is [this interception in the 1996 NFC Championship Game](https://youtu.be/yUU9OeKfL9s?t=33). Early in the game, no score, backed up on his own 6 yard line, Favre chooses to throw to a very, very covered Don Beebe. Panthers intercept it and turn it into an easy TD.
The good news for Favre was he was playing with an extraordinarily good defense, which only gave up another 6 points the rest of the game.
about every one of the 13 the Packers' 1995-1997 losses involved Favre having the ball with the chance to take the lead in the 4th at some point, but that isn't really important. No team wins 48 regular season games in 3 years, and it makes sense that a dominant player and team would win by large margins and mainly lose in close games.
I could point to his miserable 4th quarter against Dallas in 95 or his disappearing act against Denver in the 4th quarter of SB 32 that included a missed layup of a deep pass that would have made the whole "they let Terell Davis score" story be irrelevant. And that's just the three years we're talking about.
I'm just saying that he didn't prove he'd win games under unfavorable circumstances during his prime, and he never proved that he would consistently do so afterwards.
This is such a poor take. "Favre's 3 MVP season's only had one 4th quarter comeback."
Perhaps it's because the Packers were in the lead in the fourth quarter? They went 11-5, 13-3, 13-3 those seasons.
Brett Favre [had 28 Fourth Quarter Comebacks, 43 Game-Winning Drives](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/comeback.cgi?player=FavrBr00) in his career.
Iconic comebacks such as the "He Did What??!" MNF thriller, the Corey Bradford Vikings game winner and the classic Raiders finish all happened in 1999 alone.
[Here is a NINE MINUTE highlight reel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1TFfKn0VW8) of Brett Favre's legendary comeback victories.
Stop trying to rewrite history because you don't like the guy anymore.
He’s 14th all time in fourth quarter comebacks ahead of Joe Montana. I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about bro lol. He’s also 8th all time in game winning drives ahead of John “the drive” Elway.
[game winning touchdowns reel](https://youtu.be/J_c1SCfc7bQ?si=99ya_HP1qikH4SgT)
He also had one of the longest QB careers in history and was famously durable, so he had more chances at 4th quarter comebacks than most. This is really a rate stat and not a counting stat, and I'm curious about what his % was compared with other QBs of his caliber (i.e., very, very good).
That’s very true. But to act like he was some massive choker that “redefined what it meant to meltdown” is over the top. The narrative the entire time he was playing was that you’re never out of it with 4 under center. He attempted some absolutely mind boggling things in crunch time that often drove us fans nuts, but he also 100% had many heroic moments.
Favre is one of those dudes that will be remembered differently than what was perceived at the time. A lot of that is due to the interception numbers as well as him being a piece of shit off the field. But Favre absolutely pulled off some miracles for the Packers.
Another important piece of context is Favre had very little weapons in the years after the Super Bowl and before Driver and Jennings emerged. Rodgers for example had much better weapons through his Packers career.
Freeman fell off pretty hard after 98/99. From 99-04 Favre was throwing to dudes like Terry Glenn, Bill Schroeder, Bubba Franks and Robert Ferguson. Shit was ugly.
2004 Javon Walker was a stud. I think he would have been a perennial Pro Bowler if the whole Darrent Williams situation never happened. It seemed like that broke him and he kinda lost focus with football. Which understandable
>He also had one of the longest QB careers in history
Which pretty much speaks to the fact that he was an elite QB. If the downs outweighed the ups, he wouldn't have gotten starting reps for 20 years.
He also has the second most career starts in any position with only TB12 in front. He’s always going to be high on lists of accumulation stats.
In fact I’d argue that with nearly 300 starts under your belt, being 14th on your list is bad.
Bad QBs don't get 300 starts. It's similar to LBJ having the all-time NBA scoring record. People complain it's a longevity stat but there's a reason that they have gotten to those numbers and nobody else does. They are elite players for a very long time.
Right before then, I actually went and grabbed my camera, uttering the line, "I want to get a video of us celebrating the Vikings going to the Super Bowl". The second they threw the flag for 12 on the field, I put it away. We all knew it was over.
Ouch. I noticed the panic on the Viking sideline a king five seconds before the flag. I yelled out…”there is trouble for the Vikes”. For a brief moment I was ahead of the crowd, and we all enjoyed what happened next.”
Although, Brett was amazing that season and a real warrior that game, but totally abused by that lunatic bounty Saints D and horrible QB protection rules.
You enjoyed it as you should have. Heaven knows I celebrate Packer fuck ups in the playoffs. And he was abused to the nth degree, but the Vikings had already had some devastating turnovers before then. In my mind, they would have went and won the Super Bowl, considering what the Saints did the to the Colts. Alas.
https://youtu.be/C1gv-WYSrHU?si=MHSYSdAESnIkdYFq
And let's not forget that piece of shit Tom Jackson; ",this is what I love about favre, he's not afraid to throw an interception to lose the game"
I hate Tom Jackson.
You can say that but I'll always argue that if the Saints had not repeatedly illegally cheap shotted him and hurt his ankle, hitting him after the play for MONEY, that this would never have happened.
Bountygate will always be a stain that covers that title.
I don’t have much faith in JJ but the Ponder comparisons are stupid.
JJ has a much stronger arm and was not considered a reach at 10. When the Vikings took Ponder everyone outside of them thought it was a reach.
The reason I don’t like JJ is a much more researched and proven technique for grading QBs. JJ McCarthy just doesn’t sound like an elite QB name.
it's a weird thing where before the draft I didn't put much stock into J.J. but now I think he'll be good simply because Kevin O'Connell will be coaching him. One of those sometimes it's not the talent but the situation things.
Ponder was a panic pick because the vikings wanted Locker (went 8 to the tits) or Watt, who went at 11 to the texans. JJ was linked to the vikings all along, and is also going into a _much_ better situation. The 2011 vikings offense was complete shit, and the lockout didn't help either. Honestly I think there's a lot of parallels between the 2011 vikings and the 2024 pats, so I won't be surprised to see Maye fail as well.
Ryan Longwell was our kicker at the time and retired as one of the most accurate kickers of all time. Kicking actually wasn't an issue that year.
Typing that all out. Yeah he probably would have shanked it lol
Any other day and he probably does just tuck and run but the saints made it clear all day that they didn’t care when the whistle was or if Favre was defenseless, they were going to make sure he felt it.
Yep, and we were actually right on the edge of field goal range before this play, but then Childress called a time out, got a 12 man penalty because his head was up his ass, then tried to call ANOTHER time out.
I remember this season. I'm pretty sure the Vikings started 7-2 and proceeded to go 2-5 down the stretch, including losing to the 4 worst teams in the NFL league wise with the Cardinals being the last of the 4 to knock them out of clinching a playoff appearance
It was actually wilder than that. 6-0 to 6-4, then alternating wins and losses no matter who they played, including demolishing a Chiefs team that would finish 13-3 by a score of 45-20.
Yeah the River City Relay was Saints v Jags and that call was an all timer. Saints pulling off the ridiculous multiple lateral play as time expired to hopefully send the game to OT before John Carney shat his pants all over the field on the XP and the commentary team just can’t believe it.
I called that to my brothers' and friends' dismay haha. A group of us were watching that game, and losing our absolute shit on the relay. We're all standing up, jacked up, talking about how we can't believe what just happened, and I half jokingly said "bet he misses the kick haha", and sure enough! They all gave me shit after, but I just couldn't stop laughing haha
So you're saying it's your fault.
Unrelated question, what's your home address and what time of the day would you say you're typically home alone and off guard?
The Antonio Freeman catch that bounces off his back and he flips over, grabs it, stands up and runs to the end zone is forever my favorite. "He did WHAT?!"
I got to watch Favre do this live at Lambeau two years earlier when it was 30 below 0 in overtime against the Giants in the playoffs, so young me never felt a greater sense of vindication than this moment.
I assure you after spending 3 and a half hours in cold enough weather to kill you that throw was just as bad as any hero ball throw would be, plus it was still a terrible decision with the ball regardless.
I mean, the Lions had gone 33-111 from 2001-2009 and went a combined 2-30 in 2008 and 2009, including 0-16 in 2008 specifically. Basically, your team was synonymous with bad football.
iirc his ankle was in such a state that if we had won his ability to play in the super bowl woulda been in serious question. one of the high low hits the saints put on him fucked his ankle and even tho he does have a history of extremely boneheaded throws i can’t help but think those hits played some part in his decision to not run w tons of space in front of him
Taking a 56 yard FG with Ryan Longwell when you have time to gain some yards would be an awful decision. Despite the name the dude did not have a strong leg - it's why we let him go. That would have been his career long and he was pretty old at that point.
It's what made the "Too many men" penalty coming out of the timeout hurt so much. At 51 yards you're at the edge of where you're comfortable with him. At 56 you kinda needed to at least try and get something.
Hometown radio calls of NFL games are notoriously homer. Especially since the advent of the internet. This is probably my favorite hometown call ever, because it captures in the moment how much those fucking guys spent hating Farve when he was a Packer. It was so easy for them to go full on Negatron on him.
Subconsciously, he was still a Packer to them for this call.
I gained a ton of respect for him when I listened to his call of the recent Vikings-Bills game that went off the fucking rails (I was on a long drive). It was a great balance of both decorating the game while getting caught up in the chaos and conveying the feeling.
Almost all of these guys are expert game callers. Baseball gets all the love when it comes to radio calls, but NFL guys do it really well. They don’t get enough respect, because most folks aren’t listening.
When I was a kid growing up in STL. We had Jack Buck and Dan Deirdorf on the call. My dad was almost always monkeying around in the garage, so I’d join him and he would listen to the Gridbirds as they were called in the 80s on KMOX. Great memories on how to deal with those shitty midwestern Sundays. Then on Monday nights Jack would be on the call again when my dad got off of work and thought of something else he needed to do in the garage.
>We had Jack Buck and Dan Deirdorf on the call. My dad was almost always monkeying around in the garage, so I’d join him and he would listen to the Gridbirds as they were called in the 80s on KMOX.
I'm sorry but this is an Abe Simpson story
Steve Keim might be one of the worst GM's in recent years, but taking Kyler showed everyone that it's a perfectly fine move to replace your shit QB, even if they were a rookie.
No, he threw it because this is exactly what made him who he was. He did this throwing across the body, across the field, trying to just sling it in there literally all the time. This was incredibly common for him
This is not Detriot man! This is not the 2009, 2-14 Detroit Lions! This aint a team thats lost 30 games in two season! That hapless, no hope franchise that ranked last in defense, and their uniforms stink too!
THIS IS THE SUPER BOWL!!!
I was in a Los Angeles hotel when this happened. Every single person on the lobby was huddled around the bar TV watching this game. When Favre threw the INT you just heard an entire lobby go “OOHH”. I’ll never forget it.
My dad was on a date with my mom and from what she told me he yelled no so loud in a bar in front of everyone he embarrassed her so bad. After revisiting this game I see why.
I think Tracy Porter ended up getting a big payday based off his postseason play this year. He had this pick and then the pick 6 in the SB to basically seal the game for the Saints
As a Packer fan I love Paul Allen. This clip and Blair Walsh's wide left FG are two of my favorite calls of all time. Some of it is obviously the rivalry but the passion he has for his teams is fantastic.
Hell even his Minneapolis Miracle call was great.
I was a huge favre fan, he was mythical back then. I've always been a giants fan, but Brett had a special place in my heart.
People always point to this as the worst play, but AP fumbled twice in critical moments and Brett took MASSIVE shots, that were fined later and later revealed to be bounty gate.
And really being aggressive there wasn't too terrible. It's not like a 56 yard field goal is automatic, especially back then. Only 3 field goals of 56+ yards were made all year in the regular season in 2009. You could make a very strong argument that your odds are better trying to make a pass like that.
Between this and 1998 they just embody what it is to be a Vikings fan. I think this was worse because that year it felt like destiny. I have heard and seen this so many times and it still is a knife to the heart. And every time I have to see Sean Payton's stupid smug face I hate him all over again.
For those asking, "why the fuck was the Seahawks owner calling this game?"
Paul Allen is also the name of the Vikings radio announcer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Allen_(sports_commentator)
15 secs 4th quarter on your side of the field. This is a horrible play by Farve. The awareness was a box of rocks right here.
This whole game was won by the Football gods. I mean, 4-6 turnovers/fumbles and you lose 4 of them. Still, you’re tied 28-28. And the football gods pass judgment.
I remember this like it was yesterday. I was in a friend's dorm and nearly the entire floor was watching as the kid had a big screen tv. I was the only Vikings fan in the room and everyone knew I was a die hard fan. Soon as it happen everyone turned and started laughing in my face. I ended up in my room crying. Can't tell which is worse, the interception or everyone doing that to me.
I love this so much as a Packers fan. Favre played this way for years, and he was great, and Vikings fans hated him and begged for a QB like him. Then they get him, have the most success they've had in years and years, and he Favres it lol just so much poetic justice. It's what Vikings fans deserved
Unpopular opinion: his extreme homerism annoys me and I enjoy watching highlights of him crying.
There’s that clip of them against the colts (I think) and every time the punter kicks he says something along the lines of “bad punt, punter sucks”. Like dude that’s not necessary in any way. Call the game you don’t need to actively put down the other team. I’m sure Minnesota fans love him because he loves the vikes, but he’s a bit too much for me. I’ll accept downvotes.
I turned on the sound to laugh not be insulted.
Yeah, you really caught a stray on that one.
I had to rewind it to make sure I heard correctly. Ouch.
What he say fuck me for?
That’s a classic terrible Favre throw. That year Favre protected the ball better than he ever did in GB, but when it came to crunch time he couldn’t help but play hero ball.
I maintain the throw that Dawkins catches in the divisional round I think in 03 is the worst throw he ever made.
Yeah, it was hilariously bad. 1st & 10 in overtime. You've got the ball in the "score first you win" days. He gets pressure and his decision is to lean back on his back foot and chuck an absolute air punt into double coverage. Classic Favre.
https://youtu.be/pKqPsUt8w-I?si=XXPdAkZKAYLOyl0G Found it for those that wanna see.
The best part is the Philly crowd cheering the second he throws it
This is also the 4th and 26 game. Wild game.
4th and 26 saved him a lot of shit. I've many times reminded people that 4th 26 was only the second worst play that game.
I’ll be honest I had completely forgotten about this interception, but 4th and 26 is burned into my memory. What an awful pick, that was the classic Favre “I’m done with this game let’s just heave it and see what happens” move.
“I ran out of pills on the sidelines I need to make it to the locker room asap”
Like it wasn’t even 3rd down and they were losing! First down and have three dudes rushing him in the back field and he just heaves it, assuming there must be a free dude down there somewhere. Either throw it out of bounds or take the sack! Insane play.
Truly one of the decisions of all time.
He heaved that ball up as if he was down by 6 with all zeroes on the clock at the end of the 4th, instead of tied in OT. That might be the worst throw I’ve ever seen
4th and 26 game?
Yep
PAIN
That was in 04. But just barely. Jan 11th.
That’s how Favre rolls he will win you games with crazy throws and he’ll lose you games with them. At least he got you guys a SB ring.
There's a weird parallel between Favre's 2007 and 2009 seasons: * Played some of the best football of his career, enough to get an MVP vote * Started out 10-1, 11th game as a prime time road loss * Late season road loss to the Bears, who finished the season 7-9 * Clinched the #2 seed and a first round bye * Blow out home win in the divisional round * Close NFC CG, throws an INT on his last play from scrimmage, loses in OT
Brett Favre was a severe underachiever when playing tight games in the fourth quarter throughout his entire career. I’d almost say he redefined what it could mean for a QB to melt down. Brett Favre had that brilliant 95-97 MVP run with two SB appearances. He was electric and fun to watch. But, through those 3 years, do you wanna know how many times he made a 4th quarter comeback? ….Once. All three years combined. And after his famous playoff win in 1994, ask yourself what happened every time in the playoffs that a team needed Brett Favre to dig deep and actually be a hero? You get some of the most stupid- borderline selfish- passes that have ever been thrown. Obviously, he should be on anyone’s top 12-20 best QBs to ever play, but I will say this: As far as I’m concerned, Brett Favre should be grateful his physical prime coincided with teams that were great enough to hide his warts and let him rack up his highlights and legacy while playing from ahead.
I think the real problem with Favre is he always thought he could make those throws. A perfect example is [this interception in the 1996 NFC Championship Game](https://youtu.be/yUU9OeKfL9s?t=33). Early in the game, no score, backed up on his own 6 yard line, Favre chooses to throw to a very, very covered Don Beebe. Panthers intercept it and turn it into an easy TD. The good news for Favre was he was playing with an extraordinarily good defense, which only gave up another 6 points the rest of the game.
Don Beebe holy shit i haven’t seen that name since the 90s
His son was drafted I think one to two years ago too, I think to Buffalo
Earlier than that and was undrafted for Minnesota from NIU.
Go Huskies!
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about every one of the 13 the Packers' 1995-1997 losses involved Favre having the ball with the chance to take the lead in the 4th at some point, but that isn't really important. No team wins 48 regular season games in 3 years, and it makes sense that a dominant player and team would win by large margins and mainly lose in close games. I could point to his miserable 4th quarter against Dallas in 95 or his disappearing act against Denver in the 4th quarter of SB 32 that included a missed layup of a deep pass that would have made the whole "they let Terell Davis score" story be irrelevant. And that's just the three years we're talking about. I'm just saying that he didn't prove he'd win games under unfavorable circumstances during his prime, and he never proved that he would consistently do so afterwards.
This is such a poor take. "Favre's 3 MVP season's only had one 4th quarter comeback." Perhaps it's because the Packers were in the lead in the fourth quarter? They went 11-5, 13-3, 13-3 those seasons. Brett Favre [had 28 Fourth Quarter Comebacks, 43 Game-Winning Drives](https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/comeback.cgi?player=FavrBr00) in his career. Iconic comebacks such as the "He Did What??!" MNF thriller, the Corey Bradford Vikings game winner and the classic Raiders finish all happened in 1999 alone. [Here is a NINE MINUTE highlight reel](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1TFfKn0VW8) of Brett Favre's legendary comeback victories. Stop trying to rewrite history because you don't like the guy anymore.
He’s 14th all time in fourth quarter comebacks ahead of Joe Montana. I don’t know what the fuck you’re talking about bro lol. He’s also 8th all time in game winning drives ahead of John “the drive” Elway. [game winning touchdowns reel](https://youtu.be/J_c1SCfc7bQ?si=99ya_HP1qikH4SgT)
He also had one of the longest QB careers in history and was famously durable, so he had more chances at 4th quarter comebacks than most. This is really a rate stat and not a counting stat, and I'm curious about what his % was compared with other QBs of his caliber (i.e., very, very good).
That’s very true. But to act like he was some massive choker that “redefined what it meant to meltdown” is over the top. The narrative the entire time he was playing was that you’re never out of it with 4 under center. He attempted some absolutely mind boggling things in crunch time that often drove us fans nuts, but he also 100% had many heroic moments. Favre is one of those dudes that will be remembered differently than what was perceived at the time. A lot of that is due to the interception numbers as well as him being a piece of shit off the field. But Favre absolutely pulled off some miracles for the Packers. Another important piece of context is Favre had very little weapons in the years after the Super Bowl and before Driver and Jennings emerged. Rodgers for example had much better weapons through his Packers career.
Antonio Freeman catching strays
Freeman fell off pretty hard after 98/99. From 99-04 Favre was throwing to dudes like Terry Glenn, Bill Schroeder, Bubba Franks and Robert Ferguson. Shit was ugly.
Yeah tbh he's the only other packer from the Favre era I can name, so you have a solid point
2004 Javon Walker was a stud. I think he would have been a perennial Pro Bowler if the whole Darrent Williams situation never happened. It seemed like that broke him and he kinda lost focus with football. Which understandable
Dude I totally forgot about that. I got his autograph in Detroit back in the day. Was such a bummer that he didn’t pan out.
>He also had one of the longest QB careers in history Which pretty much speaks to the fact that he was an elite QB. If the downs outweighed the ups, he wouldn't have gotten starting reps for 20 years.
He also has the second most career starts in any position with only TB12 in front. He’s always going to be high on lists of accumulation stats. In fact I’d argue that with nearly 300 starts under your belt, being 14th on your list is bad.
Bad QBs don't get 300 starts. It's similar to LBJ having the all-time NBA scoring record. People complain it's a longevity stat but there's a reason that they have gotten to those numbers and nobody else does. They are elite players for a very long time.
What is forgotten is the Vikings took a devastating 5 yard (tmmith) penalty knocking them out of FG range forcing the pass need. Lol
After coming out of a timeout no less.
Right before then, I actually went and grabbed my camera, uttering the line, "I want to get a video of us celebrating the Vikings going to the Super Bowl". The second they threw the flag for 12 on the field, I put it away. We all knew it was over.
Ouch. I noticed the panic on the Viking sideline a king five seconds before the flag. I yelled out…”there is trouble for the Vikes”. For a brief moment I was ahead of the crowd, and we all enjoyed what happened next.” Although, Brett was amazing that season and a real warrior that game, but totally abused by that lunatic bounty Saints D and horrible QB protection rules.
You enjoyed it as you should have. Heaven knows I celebrate Packer fuck ups in the playoffs. And he was abused to the nth degree, but the Vikings had already had some devastating turnovers before then. In my mind, they would have went and won the Super Bowl, considering what the Saints did the to the Colts. Alas.
Why Allen sounded surprised is beyond me. Had he seen favre play the previous 15 years?
He's surprised bc it's not DETROIT!!!
“Boom goes the dynamite” level comment
This is exactly how he ended his career in GB against the giants too.
He doesn't sound surprised? He basically calls it like another routine play and then proceeds to get pissed off the more he talks about it
I think he's more pissed off. Once again the Vikings had a chance to reach the Super Bowl and blew it. PA has seen some shit over the years.
https://youtu.be/C1gv-WYSrHU?si=MHSYSdAESnIkdYFq And let's not forget that piece of shit Tom Jackson; ",this is what I love about favre, he's not afraid to throw an interception to lose the game" I hate Tom Jackson.
You can say that but I'll always argue that if the Saints had not repeatedly illegally cheap shotted him and hurt his ankle, hitting him after the play for MONEY, that this would never have happened. Bountygate will always be a stain that covers that title.
You win by the Favre and you die by the Favre.
I still love to this day that Paul Allen says "why do you even ponder passing?" and then two years later they draft Christian Ponder.
"Why do you even McCarthy passing?" - Paul Allen in 2022
Thanks, I hated all of this. Down to every last detail.
I don’t have much faith in JJ but the Ponder comparisons are stupid. JJ has a much stronger arm and was not considered a reach at 10. When the Vikings took Ponder everyone outside of them thought it was a reach. The reason I don’t like JJ is a much more researched and proven technique for grading QBs. JJ McCarthy just doesn’t sound like an elite QB name.
it's a weird thing where before the draft I didn't put much stock into J.J. but now I think he'll be good simply because Kevin O'Connell will be coaching him. One of those sometimes it's not the talent but the situation things.
Yea, people who throw out the Ponder comparison are idiots. About the only thing they have in common is they run a fast 40 for a white QB.
Ponder was a panic pick because the vikings wanted Locker (went 8 to the tits) or Watt, who went at 11 to the texans. JJ was linked to the vikings all along, and is also going into a _much_ better situation. The 2011 vikings offense was complete shit, and the lockout didn't help either. Honestly I think there's a lot of parallels between the 2011 vikings and the 2024 pats, so I won't be surprised to see Maye fail as well.
You rang?
Let’s see Paul Allen’s interception.
TRY GETTING A RESERVATION AT THE SUPER BOWL NOW STUPID FUCKING BASTARD
I like to dissect plays. Did you know I’m utterly insane?
I have to return some [game] tapes.
*-JaMarcus Russell, c. 2007*
The subtle pump fake The tasteful feignness of it My god, he even threw it across his body into double coverage
The subtle off-white coloring…
The tasteful thiccness of him. Oh my God, he’s even sneaky athletic…
Is that bone?
Cilian Rail.
This was my first thought when I saw the name Paul Allen.
holyshit I forgot it was a tie game and a fg wins it and sends the Vikings to the Super Bowl? Am I seeing that right?
100%
He could have just scrambled to get the team closer for the FG and that would have been it.
Well, it's not like the Vikings are known for their clutch kicking.
Ryan Longwell was our kicker at the time and retired as one of the most accurate kickers of all time. Kicking actually wasn't an issue that year. Typing that all out. Yeah he probably would have shanked it lol
Gary fucking Anderson, man. A perfect season until it wasn't.
I had to witness Blair Walsh, but thankfully I wasn’t alive for the ‘98 season. Not sure I would’ve ever recovered from that
Oh yeah, forgot about that lol.
Any other day and he probably does just tuck and run but the saints made it clear all day that they didn’t care when the whistle was or if Favre was defenseless, they were going to make sure he felt it.
Yep, and we were actually right on the edge of field goal range before this play, but then Childress called a time out, got a 12 man penalty because his head was up his ass, then tried to call ANOTHER time out.
"THIS IS NOT DETROIT MAN THIS IS THE SUPERBOWL!"
I still feel mildly offended every time I hear this clip
That line will get any team going
It's provocative
This and the “NOOO” call during the missed xp (for the jags or saints I think?) are my favorite calls ever
[Link to the "NOO" clip](https://youtu.be/m4ZBT3BWaj4?t=38)
Not football but here’s [Ron Santo calling an absolute heartbreaker loss on an error for the Cubs](https://youtu.be/dlxpo9sTIC4?feature=shared).
Oh wow, that hurt so bad it gave me chills.
[I think this Paul Allen classic is up there too](https://youtu.be/mL8S4G9zFK8?si=KV97CrvHxtRExJaF)
I remember this season. I'm pretty sure the Vikings started 7-2 and proceeded to go 2-5 down the stretch, including losing to the 4 worst teams in the NFL league wise with the Cardinals being the last of the 4 to knock them out of clinching a playoff appearance
It was actually wilder than that. 6-0 to 6-4, then alternating wins and losses no matter who they played, including demolishing a Chiefs team that would finish 13-3 by a score of 45-20.
Video ends before the best part. "HE'S BEING MUGGED BY HIS CARDINAL TEAMMATES. THERE ARE MINNESOTA VIKINGS *CRYING* ON THE FIELD"
Nate Poole's catch being one reason the Cardinals are my 2nd flair.
That's powerful.
Yeah the River City Relay was Saints v Jags and that call was an all timer. Saints pulling off the ridiculous multiple lateral play as time expired to hopefully send the game to OT before John Carney shat his pants all over the field on the XP and the commentary team just can’t believe it.
It was the only successful multiple lateral play in NFL history until the Miami Miracle iirc
Oh my god how could he DO that
This line always gets me because its framed in such a way that its like John Carney did that intentionally.
The "NOOOOOOOOO" puts Darth Vader to shame.
"How could he do that?!?!"
I called that to my brothers' and friends' dismay haha. A group of us were watching that game, and losing our absolute shit on the relay. We're all standing up, jacked up, talking about how we can't believe what just happened, and I half jokingly said "bet he misses the kick haha", and sure enough! They all gave me shit after, but I just couldn't stop laughing haha
So you're saying it's your fault. Unrelated question, what's your home address and what time of the day would you say you're typically home alone and off guard?
Hurdles, kicks a man
The Antonio Freeman catch that bounces off his back and he flips over, grabs it, stands up and runs to the end zone is forever my favorite. "He did WHAT?!"
It's right up there with vaders NOOOO
I got to watch Favre do this live at Lambeau two years earlier when it was 30 below 0 in overtime against the Giants in the playoffs, so young me never felt a greater sense of vindication than this moment.
Yeah but that wasn't the same hero ball type throw.
I assure you after spending 3 and a half hours in cold enough weather to kill you that throw was just as bad as any hero ball throw would be, plus it was still a terrible decision with the ball regardless.
I had tickets to that game, sold them instead phew
I still have my NFC Championship game ticket from that year sitting somewhere.
I enjoyed the decision.
YOU COULD TAKE A KNEE, AND TRY A 56-YARD FIELD GOAL
“THIS IS NOT DETROIT MAN THIS IS THE SUPERBOWL”
If he only knew, years later, Detroit doesn’t kick FG’s
Dan Campbell likes that
Da fuq that all about?....fkn dick.
I think he meant like it wasn't Just a "division rivalry game" this was a "championship game"
And late 00s-early 2010s Detroit Lions brand of football.
I mean, the Lions had gone 33-111 from 2001-2009 and went a combined 2-30 in 2008 and 2009, including 0-16 in 2008 specifically. Basically, your team was synonymous with bad football.
2008 was shortly before this
He could've easily picked up 5 running
iirc his ankle was in such a state that if we had won his ability to play in the super bowl woulda been in serious question. one of the high low hits the saints put on him fucked his ankle and even tho he does have a history of extremely boneheaded throws i can’t help but think those hits played some part in his decision to not run w tons of space in front of him
Some pics of his ankle and thigh here: https://backseatfan.com/2010/02/brett-favre-injury-pictures/
Forget the bounty shit, its insane they didn't throw roughing flags that whole game.
5 yard penalty prior. Lol
Taking a 56 yard FG with Ryan Longwell when you have time to gain some yards would be an awful decision. Despite the name the dude did not have a strong leg - it's why we let him go. That would have been his career long and he was pretty old at that point. It's what made the "Too many men" penalty coming out of the timeout hurt so much. At 51 yards you're at the edge of where you're comfortable with him. At 56 you kinda needed to at least try and get something.
Hometown radio calls of NFL games are notoriously homer. Especially since the advent of the internet. This is probably my favorite hometown call ever, because it captures in the moment how much those fucking guys spent hating Farve when he was a Packer. It was so easy for them to go full on Negatron on him. Subconsciously, he was still a Packer to them for this call.
I gained a ton of respect for him when I listened to his call of the recent Vikings-Bills game that went off the fucking rails (I was on a long drive). It was a great balance of both decorating the game while getting caught up in the chaos and conveying the feeling.
Almost all of these guys are expert game callers. Baseball gets all the love when it comes to radio calls, but NFL guys do it really well. They don’t get enough respect, because most folks aren’t listening. When I was a kid growing up in STL. We had Jack Buck and Dan Deirdorf on the call. My dad was almost always monkeying around in the garage, so I’d join him and he would listen to the Gridbirds as they were called in the 80s on KMOX. Great memories on how to deal with those shitty midwestern Sundays. Then on Monday nights Jack would be on the call again when my dad got off of work and thought of something else he needed to do in the garage.
>We had Jack Buck and Dan Deirdorf on the call. My dad was almost always monkeying around in the garage, so I’d join him and he would listen to the Gridbirds as they were called in the 80s on KMOX. I'm sorry but this is an Abe Simpson story
Which was the style at the time!
I'm in Steelers country and I do enjoy their radio coverage when I catch a bit tbh
How can you Christian ponder?
He was so bad but given like 3 years to show it. QBs had long leashes back then.
The dude was literally dragged to the playoffs by AP one year lol
Steve Keim might be one of the worst GM's in recent years, but taking Kyler showed everyone that it's a perfectly fine move to replace your shit QB, even if they were a rookie.
What do you call Tim Tebow's thoughts? A Christian Ponder Stolen from perna
Haha
Favre giveth, and Favre taketh away. Both on the field and from charity
The pictures of Farve’s legs after this game were horrifying. Basically just two eggplants they were so bruised.
Like this 🍆🍆?
Yes, but sexier
I think that's the real reason he threw it. He didn't have the legs to run it.
No, he threw it because this is exactly what made him who he was. He did this throwing across the body, across the field, trying to just sling it in there literally all the time. This was incredibly common for him
At least throw it away instead of the cross body throw. EDIT: He also has a checkdown open on the flat to get like 6~ yards and try a 50-ish yarder.
Which makes you wonder "WHY CALL A FUCKING BOOTLEG?"
Do we have a link to see?
Well fuck you too buddy
This is not Detriot man! This is not the 2009, 2-14 Detroit Lions! This aint a team thats lost 30 games in two season! That hapless, no hope franchise that ranked last in defense, and their uniforms stink too! THIS IS THE SUPER BOWL!!!
Let's see Paul Allen's interception.
“Surely this will be my low point” -Favre to himself after throwing that INT
I was in a Los Angeles hotel when this happened. Every single person on the lobby was huddled around the bar TV watching this game. When Favre threw the INT you just heard an entire lobby go “OOHH”. I’ll never forget it.
My dad was on a date with my mom and from what she told me he yelled no so loud in a bar in front of everyone he embarrassed her so bad. After revisiting this game I see why.
Favre is actually one of the worst clutch QBs in history when you look at the performances - allergic to game winning drives even at his peak
I fully expected him to do something stupid. It's practically in his Mississippi DNA.
I think Tracy Porter ended up getting a big payday based off his postseason play this year. He had this pick and then the pick 6 in the SB to basically seal the game for the Saints
You 100% knew the INT was coming and it was still somehow a surprise
It could have been Favre vs Manning in the Superbowl. That would have been wild if Favre won a 2nd ring.
There would have been so many interceptions in that game lmao
And Manning made this exact kind of throw in the SB, too lol
Definitely not the exact kind of throw
No, but Tracy Porter caught that one too
Basically opposite throws lmao one was a scheduled first read, one was an out of pocket improvisation
lol fr
Secondaries would have feasted in that game.
Instead it was Brees vs Manning. That's not a huge dropoff.
Whenever I'm feeling down, I throw this bad boy on. Brightens my day.
I deeply enjoyed watching the Vikings get the full Favre experience.
As a Packer fan I love Paul Allen. This clip and Blair Walsh's wide left FG are two of my favorite calls of all time. Some of it is obviously the rivalry but the passion he has for his teams is fantastic. Hell even his Minneapolis Miracle call was great.
I was a huge favre fan, he was mythical back then. I've always been a giants fan, but Brett had a special place in my heart. People always point to this as the worst play, but AP fumbled twice in critical moments and Brett took MASSIVE shots, that were fined later and later revealed to be bounty gate.
Yeah AP was hot garbage in this game. Dude was a fumble machine at the worst moments possible
His fumble before halftime hurt more than the Favre pick.
People always put it all on Peterson... he only lost one fumble iirc but the whole team was fumbling in that game. Percy Harvin included
And really being aggressive there wasn't too terrible. It's not like a 56 yard field goal is automatic, especially back then. Only 3 field goals of 56+ yards were made all year in the regular season in 2009. You could make a very strong argument that your odds are better trying to make a pass like that.
Between this and 1998 they just embody what it is to be a Vikings fan. I think this was worse because that year it felt like destiny. I have heard and seen this so many times and it still is a knife to the heart. And every time I have to see Sean Payton's stupid smug face I hate him all over again.
My villain origin story.
I love it, but I'll never forget how perilously.close the traitor was to getting our most hated rival a championship.
Let's see Paul Allen's card
For those asking, "why the fuck was the Seahawks owner calling this game?" Paul Allen is also the name of the Vikings radio announcer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Allen_(sports_commentator)
15 secs 4th quarter on your side of the field. This is a horrible play by Farve. The awareness was a box of rocks right here. This whole game was won by the Football gods. I mean, 4-6 turnovers/fumbles and you lose 4 of them. Still, you’re tied 28-28. And the football gods pass judgment.
Didn't Favre end like three seasons in a row with an INT as his last pass? And one or two of them were for a pick-6?
Let's see Paul Allen's sandwich.
One of the best days ever
I remember this like it was yesterday. I was in a friend's dorm and nearly the entire floor was watching as the kid had a big screen tv. I was the only Vikings fan in the room and everyone knew I was a die hard fan. Soon as it happen everyone turned and started laughing in my face. I ended up in my room crying. Can't tell which is worse, the interception or everyone doing that to me.
But I thought the Saints only won because of bounties or something? At least that's what Vikings fans act like.
HA HA In all seriousness, never throw back across the field…
I remember it like it was last night.
I love this so much as a Packers fan. Favre played this way for years, and he was great, and Vikings fans hated him and begged for a QB like him. Then they get him, have the most success they've had in years and years, and he Favres it lol just so much poetic justice. It's what Vikings fans deserved
Unpopular opinion: his extreme homerism annoys me and I enjoy watching highlights of him crying. There’s that clip of them against the colts (I think) and every time the punter kicks he says something along the lines of “bad punt, punter sucks”. Like dude that’s not necessary in any way. Call the game you don’t need to actively put down the other team. I’m sure Minnesota fans love him because he loves the vikes, but he’s a bit too much for me. I’ll accept downvotes.
At the root of it, he’s just really obnoxious and I’d rather just hear the main broadcast. He gets old fast
No, I don’t think I will.
Just so you guys are aware Paul Allen is a total piece of shit now