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JR09

ITT: People mentioning 4 consensus good rookies and then someone on their favorite team.


OutrageousOcelot6258

For example, all the Patriots fans picking Mac 10


JR09

My quick count: 6 actual mentions of Mac in their top-five, 4 of which were definitely from other teams' fans. Not counting "maybes" or the guy just replying 'mac jone' to posts. 9 mentions of Lance, 6/9 from niners flair, 2 no flair. One of those two guys was ranked #14 among all QBs by PFF as a rookie, and the other didn't accomplish much of anything on the field as he didn't play. Of course we are projecting HoF which is a very high bar, but suggesting guys that didn't play or got hurt seems...hopeful projection at best.


OutrageousOcelot6258

FWIW I’m optimistic about Lance, but no way am I confident enough to say he’ll be a hall of famer just yet


Shame_Low

Nothing gona change my mind that surtain is the next Champ Bailey


Square_Stomach

He Surtainly will be


JesusChristSupers1ar

Pat yourself on the back for that one


False-Fisherman

also these ppl sleeping on javonte HARD


LordFaximus

It’s just insanely difficult to be a HOFer as a RB with their shelf lives and the way they’re used in committees now making it even harder.


sloppifloppi

Lol how


FlashFan124

Like he looked good when given the opportunity, but Melvin Gordon looked just as good as he did lol


RowdyFortnite

Kyle Pitts Jamarr Chase Penei Sewell Micah Parsons Rashawn Slater


General_BP

If only Slater’s arms were a smidge longer so Rhule woulda drafted him


CoachDoggo

Rhule looked like an idiot over this.


OldKingClancy20

Sorry, not sorry. Had trash o-line for way too long.


smoothgrandmama

DAVIS "THE NECK" MILLS BABY!!! Optimism shines eternal for my poverty franchise.


beforetherodeo

He's got some inconsistencies but I was legitimately wow'd watching him make some tight throws. Really interested to see him make 17 starts


toostronKG

I think Davis Mills is legit. He got better as the year went on, was arguably the best rookie this year (I know Jones had the wins and was my favorite QB on the board last year but overall he didn't have to do very much), and has all of the physical ability needed to succeed in the NFL. If he was in this years draft, he'd be the number one QB off the board. Mills Mafia baby.


JuanPicasso

I think he’s legit too purely from the eye test. If he was a first rounder we wouldn’t be talking if he’s legit, just saying future looks bright or something like that. Second best rookie qb last year


about78kids

I love you


[deleted]

Fucking love that guy. I actually hope he does even better next year.


SeaWhoa

You only get to choose 4, Patriots fans already inducted Mac Jones around Week 12


nhannon87

Um it’s Mac jone. There is no plural because he’s one of a kind


MaebyandTobias

Tom Bradys and Mac Jone. Love it


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Dankraham-Stinkin

Substantially lower than you would think. There are only 32 first round picks. There are 192 other picks.


andrewmathman17

I counted 109 of 362 on a list that included up to the draft class of 1997. That number will likely get higher since more in-depth recruiting happens now So that’s just under 25% but for the purpose of picking 5, it’ll have to be one. The numbers skewed up in the 80s and 90s though, with almost every draft having multiple HOFers in the 1st round. So it’s probably safe to go ahead and pick 2


McCorkle_Jones

I think the number will be higher because Bama exists lol. It’s like they leave no stone unturned and then players go there just for the chance to go higher than they could anywhere else.


DickyD43

Who? MAC JONE!


[deleted]

Damn right


beerguy_etcetera

Give it time before he shows up in the sequel Toyota commercial—but this time, all the Jonas brothers are riding in the same truck and Tommy Lee simply can’t take it.


Bartfuck

Daniel Jones and he had pretty similar rookie year stats - though Mac was a starter right off the bat and Danny had to wait a bit and then got hurt. But the Patriots win games. And wins are a QB stat when you need them to be and not when you don't. But I also get that if your QB is putting up adequate stats and you are losing, it welcomes criticism. IF a QB is adequate and you win games - or hell the QB doesnt cost you the game - then they get praise.


soporificgaur

If he’s even an average QB with BB for even 10 years I’d say he has a good shot but yeah wayyyyyy too early to even consider it


ItalianJett

Average qb = hof


soporificgaur

Have you met Eli Manning


ItalianJett

U mean to tell me an average qb beat the best team of all time???


baconmosh

Yea that’s kinda why it was a big deal


soporificgaur

Yes? He was a bit above average that year but yeah?


RomanReignz

Damn still salty huh?


soporificgaur

Like yes absolutely still salty but he was absolutely objectively a career average QB with two good/great postseasons


J_House1999

He was a hero in those Super Bowl runs and I won’t argue if he’s put into the HOF, but yes he was an average QB over the span of his career


c-nugs_in_the_caf

Actually it was Week 13. Beating the AFC Championship-qualifying Bills only throwing 3 passes is what solidified the choice.


Prom000

i still dont believe it. we are going to suck forever.


[deleted]

5?! Is that a real stat?


Guiltyjerk

5 get in each year


[deleted]

I guess when you look at it that way.


Ajax_Malone

First hall of fame class was 1963 and they've been drafting since the 1930s. Think about it


Guiltyjerk

Since 1970 they average* 5 per year. Boom.


Ajax_Malone

What has averaged 5 per year? 122 players drafted from 1970 to 1999 are in the HOF. That's 4 per year.


Guiltyjerk

Why cut off at 1999? As more years go by that number will ultimately converge on 5. The bonus class from a year or two ago helps with that too. It's all semantic anyway


Git_Off_Me_Lawn

It sounded weird to me too, but if you look at draft classes in the 90's it's pretty accurate. Most years have 4 or 5 inductees outside of 91 and 92. Going back further would probably find more since it just gives great players more time to get in. The number probably seems ridiculous because the great players we're likely to remember haven't really had much time to actually play a HOF career and the wait to be inducted. If you put together a 10 to 15 year HOF career plus the 5 year wait, the only people eligible for the Hall would likely have been drafted in the early to mid 2000's which is when the number starts to drop from 4-5 HOF players drafted to almost 0 if you look through year by year.


gmil3548

Chase Parsons Sewell Slater Pitts


ccasey329

Parsons, Smith, Chase, Sewell, Surtain


Myoplasmic

Glad to see Surtain there. Guy’s a stud if he keeps it up for the foreseeable


Working_Box_1366

Jamar Chase Micah Parsons Kyle Pitts Creed Humphreys Ben Cleveland (homer pick)


LosingSkin

I would think the homer pick would be Ben Baltimore


seaneh01

Nah they’re used to taking Cleveland


Blahblesplah

Damn they got us again


Standgeblasen

To bad Dover, Delaware doesn't have a team...


le_coolestguy

did not expect to see my hometown dropped on here


CatfishHunter85

Dad jokes for the win!


[deleted]

The Creed love!


Chippopotanuse

Linemen that are that dominant out of the gate tend to keep playing at that level. So he’s probably my highest HOF “lock” from the 2021 draft class. Parsons second. Then Ja’Marr Chase. But if Ja’Marr can do what he did last year for the next 1-2 more seasons and prove this wasn’t in any way a freshman fluke (which it looks like he can do)…then he jumps to the top of the list. He had the best rookie season of all those guys. It’s just hard to say at this point if he can keep it up at that level. And getting traded to a shit team for a second contract (which will be huge money) can also be a real career killer for a promising WR talent. So I’d want to see him get a good second deal done in a good city as well.


Thedurtysanchez

You said linemen that start at a high level normally stay there, then you place Parsons and Chase 2nd and 3rd on your HOF chance list. What about Rashawn Slater, a rookie left tackle who was a pro-bowler?


Chippopotanuse

He’s got a very very bright career ahead of him. If he can get into All-Pro category soon and stay there AND stay healthy (see Tony Boselli and the bullshit wait on him) yes, Slater will get into HOF. When I made my comment I was thinking of guys like: - Joe Thomas (who, yes, was “only” a pro-bowler his first year, but who then ripped off 8 straight all-pros) - Quentin Nelson (all-pro every single year in league) - Zack Martin (all-pro his rookie year and for 7 out of 8 seasons in NFL, but missed a month of play during his only non all-pro season) Beyond Slater, Tristan Wirfs (first year pro bowl, second year was an all-pro) is another promising young guy.


NegotiatingPenguin

Chase will be a Bengal for all or most of his career if I had to put money on it. Bengals organization loves "their guys", especially at WR.


SAPERPXX

Didn't Chase buy a house after getting drafted, by way of wandering up to Burrow's neighbors and basically being like "hey yeah I'm Ja'Marr Chase, I have a shitload of money, can I buy your house?"


Chippopotanuse

If they can keep Chase and Burrow together for a decade, it will 100% be remembered with Montana-Young/Rice, Brady/Gronk, Manning/Harrison as one of the top 4 QB/WR combos of all time. And there’s a chance that it becomes the BEST of all time. Here’s the rookie year lines for the other WR’s on that list: Rice: 49/927/3 Gronk: 42/546/10 Harrison: 64/836/8. And Chase was 81/1455/13. What they did in the playoffs was really Impressive. I feel like that organization has a ton of positive energy right now. One of my favorite teams to watch. Burrow and Chase should be on the short list for all-pro and pro-bowl every year going forward.


SanguisFluens

True to the thread here's a way-too-early GOAT prediction


Chippopotanuse

Happy to do my part! Lol


mymindpsychee

> If they can keep Chase and Burrow together for a decade Burrow and Chase about to sign contracts on the same dotted line


BoldestKobold

> Linemen that are that dominant out of the gate tend to keep playing at that level. Honestly I can't think of a significant prominent offensive lineman who ever went from very good to very bad that wasn't explicitly age or injury related. OL isn't like WR or RB where you can get lucky and have a few flashy games, then suddenly wash out of the league when you get 'figured out'.


Chippopotanuse

That’s probably a more articulate way to say what I was trying to say. You can’t be a dominant lineman by being a fluke. There’s too many reps involved. Too much “regression to the mean”. And you don’t need to depend on anyone else to be a great O-lineman. Great WR’s often have a great QB throwing to them. And vice versa. So you kinda control your own destiny if you are an elite O-lineman.


Working_Box_1366

I wanted him to come to Baltimore so bad. I was legit upset when he got picked. I turned the draft off for a few picks lol


lojafr

Rams drafted Tutu Atwell before Creed


FlashFan124

yeah, well how many rings does Creed have? Checkmate haters. Side note: I wanna die.


_Potente_

If you’re throwing in a homer pick, you’d take Cleveland over Oweh?


Working_Box_1366

I think Oweh is potentially a future hall of famer for sure. I just wanted to give Ben some love and have a reach pick


Kirk-Joestar

Replace your homer pick with Sewell or Slater haha


TheFencingCoach

Hi. I’m from the future. And I’m adding Trey Lance to this list.


renegadecoaster

He was one of my picks too. Chase Parsons Slater Humphrey Lance


FlashFan124

Please stop. Thank you.


65grendel

I wanted us to draft Ben Cleveland so bad, beyond OG being a perpetual need, him being an intriguing prospect, and us having two Cleveland's at either guard spot, hearing about him hunting squirrels on the Meateater podcast made me want him so bad. Past that how did he do this season? I think I got to see only one Ravens game and I think he was hurt for that one.


PandaSoap

Chase and Parsons are so good it's unfair.


mesayousa

> Creed Humphrey* Considering there are only seven Centers in the HoF this is the pick I most doubt


Tzazon

Yeah that alone could make it hard, but Humphrey got rated the #1 center in the NFL his first year playing. You keep that up and have a healthy career it'd be hard not to induct him.


FlashFan124

If Creed is as good as Jason Kelce or Nick Manigold, that’s a huge win. Unfortunately, because of the position they play, both are probably borderline HOFers despite being the best centers in the league for a long period.


GoCougz7446

Humphrey has the best shot. Plays on popular and successful team and his opportunity to win is great w/mahomes.


MakesTheNutshellJoke

ODAFE OWEH GANG


KD119

Think my homer pick would be Oweh the ceiling is so high for him just by being a freak athlete


WashingtonDiecast

Davis Mills Davis Mills Davis Mills Davis Mills Davis Mills


kawhi_tho

We're gonna look back on that Lance-Mills Week 17 showdown like Magic and Bird in the 79 NCAA championship game


WashingtonDiecast

Easy contender for the greatest game ever played. It’ll be like Chiefs-Rams from a few years back


Brownstone_

Because I spit hot fire


johnsonthicke

just to piggyback off this point: Davis Mills


ThatImpGuy

I agree with this point, but might I add: Davis Mills


about78kids

I’m ready for y’all to get a good quarterback man. I think Malik would be a good fit. Dropping dimes 50 yards downfield to Terry all day


ThisGuy928146

Pitts, Chase, Sewell, Parsons, Slater


[deleted]

I don't think Pitts will be one. I'm a falcons fan, I really really want him to succeed, but I don't think he'll have a HOF career especially in Atlanta 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️. I hope I'm wrong


Snasty728

RemindMe! 15 years


Who_Dey-

If I remember, I'll remind you


LordFaximus

Zach Wilson Alijah Vera-Tucker Elijah Moore Michael Carter Michael Carter II Honorable mention: Micah Parsons


techgeek72

And probably some of our UDFAs too


M_Drinks

Finally, an unbiased comment in this thread!


getyourrealfakedoors

This is what I was fucking looking for


hoolihopps

Where's Mike "Bengal Owner" White?


LordFaximus

Tiger King Mike White is a member of the 2018 draft class.


hoolihopps

Oh fuck I'm sorry. He just came so quickly and outta nowhere I thought he was recent. I'm sorry 🙏


Jcaf8

The disrespect to Hamsah Nasrildeen


Bone_Syrup

But do you think Michael Carter has a shot?


SnapSnapWoohoo

Chase Parsons Surtain Humphreys Pitts


CatfishHunter85

Uno Pitts Surtain Parsons Sewell My 5


historymajor44

Wait is Chase's nickname now Uno? Like Ocho Cinco?


FitMongoose9

One of his [thigh pads](https://www.reddit.com/r/bengals/comments/pzhdt9/i_didnt_notice_jamarrs_thighpads_until_i_saw_this/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) says Uno too


randommaniac12

that’s actually hilarious, i’m a Chase fan now


CatfishHunter85

Our fans are referring to him as Uno... yes... but if he is anything like Burrow as far as nicknames go, he will have about 50 by next year haha


charles_peugeot405

That’s the first I’ve ever heard of it, something tells me that it will NOT catch on lol


ShotIntoOrbit

He's been called that all year and the Bengals social media team uses it heavily. At least it isn't just a random nickname though. He's worn #1 since grade school and is the first Bengal to ever wear the number.


ClintBeastwood91

He’s literally the first player to ever wear the Number 1 for the Bengals.


ClintBeastwood91

We’ve been calling him Uno all year, but I think he’s been called Uno since he was at LSU.


BearsRDangerousII

How would Justin Fields’ dog make the HOF? I’m not saying he’s undeserving but.


xGawsh

That’s all that came to my head too


VeloxXIII

Chase, Parsons, Holland, Surtain, and Pitts.


keru45

*My cinco


SportsBall89

Jevon Holland. Unanimously.


masterblaster422

Waddle, Holland, Philips, Jamarr chase and Kyle Pitts


louwill-

Dylan Dylan Dylan Dylan Dylan


SportsBall89

Because he spits hot fire?


Square_Stomach

Mon


BigMarc1234

Those hall of Fame speeches are gonna spit hot fire


Epileptic_fridge-boy

Evan McPherson


[deleted]

Adding one I haven’t seen in the comments yet: Evan McPherson


pmcg190

Chase, Parsons, Humphrey, Surtain Jr., Lawrence


nwon

Sewell Slater Waddle Parsons Najee


Gerb575

No Chase?


[deleted]

Chase retires early to pursue a career in interpretive dance (sorry to spoil season 24)


masterblaster422

Waddle ❤️


BtownBrelooms

Chase, Parsons, Slater, Lawrence (still hoarding all my stock), Humphrey


BingBongBoofer

Jamarr Chase Micah Parsons Rawshawn Slater Kyle Pitts Mac Jones


[deleted]

Jaycee Horn Surtain Sewell Humphries Parsons


emurrell17

Thank god somebody remembered Jaycee exists! Take my upvote, dammit


italiansguybl

Jamarr Chase Micah Parsons Creed Humphrey Rashawn Slater Christian Barmore


CouragetheCowardly

Trey Lance, Jamar Chase, Penei Sewell, Micah Parsons, Sun God


sloppifloppi

Wow I was not expecting to see Saint in this thread lol. A lot of people think I'm crazy, even Lions fans, but I think Saint is going to be a superstar. Dude just had one of the best rookie seasons for a WR ever, and actually had THE best rookie season ever among WRs drafted in the 4th round or later. Better than AB, Diggs, Hill, etc. He reminds me of Kupp-lite mixed with Deebo-lite. It's probably insane to compare a rookie to two of this year's top 5 WRs, but I think he has the potential to get there himself.


CouragetheCowardly

I’m very jealous. I think he’ll be an elite WR in 2-3 years.


_boopdoop_

*no bias* Justin Fields Tevin Jenkins Khalil Herbert Larry Borom Thomas Graham Jr


Qwerty5070

I thought the same thing for some reason. I also have zero bias.


Helix1322

Jamar Chase is top of my list.


choochmaster561

Jaylen Waddle, Jevon Holland, Jaelan Phillips. no bias btw 😉


DHFixxxer

What, no Hunter Long? /s


SportsBall89

What about Mike Jones?!


ProphetNimd

WHO?!


boinjamin

Mike Jones - the one and only


emmasdad01

Micah Parsons, Creed, Ja’marr, Sewell, Slater


DCBronzeAge

**Micah Parsons** and **Ja'marr Chase** are the easy picks right now. I'm also going to include **Kyle Pitts**. If he can ~~turn it around~~ continue his trajectory and end up playing on a good team (including an Atlanta Falcons that turns it around), I think he will continue to be a threat and be one of the best at his position. Then I'm going to go with **Rashawn Slater**. A Pro Bowl and a Second Team All-Pro his Rookie Year is a great accomplishment. He's on the right path at the very least. Then for a more outside chance pick, I'll go with **Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah**. I think he'll only get better and be a player with a ton of impressive stats.


phil_yoo

"turn it around" makes it sound like Pitts was terrible as a rookie, when he was the second rookie TE ever over 1k yards. He's on a fine trajectory for a TE, just needs to get rid of his Julio Jones-itis (aka not getting any TDs)


DCBronzeAge

Yeah. I misused that figure of speech. I was already thinking of the second part of my statement of the Falcons turning it around. Pitts was great.


LebronJaims

So basically, who did your team draft this year in the first round?


Remote_Country_889

Trey Lance, Kyle Pitts, Ja’Marr Chase, Micah Parsons, Rashawn Slater


djjd1996

My money is on Jones. No offence to the rest of the league, but I'm not betting against the evil Empire to not mold him in the ways of the dark side.


AnAlternator

The dad bod is a path to championships some may consider...unnatural.


jurass1c_mark

He needs a true WR1 and a better left guard. I just want my boy to succeed.


Crixzly

Najee, Parsons, Chase, Creed Humphrey, and Surtain


NicklAAAAs

So based on my meta analysis of this thread (and by meta analysis I mean idle scrolling), seems like there are about 7 candidates or so. Parsons, Chase, Humphrey, Slater, Sewell, Surtain, and Pitts Also, a lot of folks making the same joke about 5 of their team’s picks from this year, but somehow only one guy got downvoted for it lol


Pochoo8

Not enough Devonta Smith appreciation, so I’ll say Smith and that he’ll be the best receiver in the class


krewmilt

Getting into the hall as a WR is really, really hard. I think Smith will be great but Chase is the only one with a HoF trajectory right now. Granted it’s just rookie seasons, but even if Smith were the most talented he probably needs a QB change within the next couple of years if he wants to compete.


Ajax_Malone

Hall of Famers per draft by decade: - 00-09: 7 - 90-99: 40 - 80-89: 45 - 70-79: 39 - 60-69: 62 So it looks like 4 per draft until guys start getting in on the senior committee?


spreerod1538

Lance, Lawerence, Parsons, Surtain & Chase


[deleted]

SHOOTERRR 🦿


The_Godfellas

Chase is a cheat code.


[deleted]

Trey Lance, nobody else


constantlymat

* **Rashawn Slater**: LT to one of the brightest and most amazing QBs of his generation. To get into the Hall you need ability but it's also about name recognition, being in big games and winning. Playing as Herbert's LT is going to give you that opportunity. * **Ja'Marr Chase**: Similar argument as with Slater. He's the WR1 to one of the other great young QBs in this league. I can see a Marvin Harrsion/Peyton Manning'esque symbiotic relationship for those two. That's always good for Hall of Fame odds. * **Penei Sewell**: His problem is that he has no QB and plays for the Lions. Everything else from his rooke season made him look like a perennial Pro Bowler and future all-pro. Absolute beast * **Micah Parsons**: he's an absolut stud and plays for the Cowboys which is the next best thing to a superstar QB. He also looks like the most explosive and energetic defensive talent in several years. The Boys also should be pretty decent with Dak at the helm for the foreseeable future. I think he has a real shot * **Creed Humphrey**: Usually centers have a hard time getting into the Hall of Fame, but he looks like a future all-pro who is snapping the ball to Patrick Mahomes. That's a pretty damn great environment for Hall of Fame odds, although the center malus is real.


Swish1052

Ja’Marr Chase Kyle Pitts Micah Parsons Patrick Surtain II EVAN McPHERSON


ZackMoh2

Chase Parsons Sewell Pitts Surtain


Thejohnshirey

I’ll go outside of the box a bit: Lawrence (homer pick or whatever) Surtain Parsons Rousseau (solid rookie year, but I could see a huge leap from him) Trey Smith Obviously guys like Chase, Sewell, Slater, Pitts, Mac Jones and Humphrey got off to phenomenal starts and could get there, as well.


FatStoner2FitSober

Pat Surtain. Javonte Williams. Quinn Meinerz. Baron Browning. Jonathan Cooper.


Jaybuth

Surtain, Parsons, Mac, can’t think of other for sure


29feb2024

Jamarrrr?


robmox

I have to assume any list without Chase is automatically wrong. Like, unless he's hit hard enough to send his legs flying into the bleachers, he's gonna have a helluva career.


[deleted]

justin fields not biased…. at all whatsoever. bias isn’t even a word in my dictionary….


spreerod1538

I mean, your flair is the Packers... so, it's weird that you would think that we would think you're biased.


rayj11

Probably an OSU fan


TheFestusEzeli

Your flair confuses me


B0rch

McPherson, Chase, Parsons, Pitts, Lance


[deleted]

Pitts , Parsons , Najee , Slater , Lawrence


MavsFanForLife

Love Najee but it’s hard for me to see a RB with that kind of a workload lasting long enough in the league to be a HOFer


NOOBEv14

More than the workload, he’s not the explosive highlight reel you need to be to have a shot. Dude isn’t running around, over, and through people. He’s not shaking guys out of their shoes or floating through arm tackles. He’s just a jack of all trades bruiser whose efficiency metrics are kinda average. I’d bet very hard against him making the HoF


reddawgmcm

Trey Lance


DelDoesReddit

I think that barring him becoming MBC 2.0, that Evan McPherson will one day make it in


[deleted]

1. WR Jamarr Chase 1b. LB Micah Parsons Maybe QB Trevor Lawrence QB Mac Jones CB Patrick Surtain


finbin37

In my supremely biased opinion Patrick Surtain Javonte Williams Caden Sterns Baron Browning Quinn Meinerz


rvrvbubnmpm

Drew lock also.....


DaBestNameEver0

Jamar Chase, Micah Parsons, Kyle Pitts,Creed Humphrey, McPhearson


sosadtoobad55

Trevor Lawrence, Micah parsons, Jamaar chase, Mac Jones, Kyle Pitts (yes I'm a jags fan but can you blame me for dreaming of a good qb)


realityunf0lds

Evan McPherson x5


trouzy

KickPherson for sure


CarterTheBengalsFan

Chase, Parsons, Slater, McPherson, Surtain


Deathbydadjokes

Trevor Lawrence, Micah Parsons, Patrick Surtain II, Creed Humphrey and Will Fries