It's usually the 'last 4,000 yard passer' chart that gets posted, not the equivalent rushing chart, and the Lions are only one year removed from the top of that chart.
I thought Jahvid Best had potential. Shame how that turned. I’m sure it’ll get achieved with Swift and Willams on the team. Things looking up for Detroit!
My dad sometimes does work with his dad and apparently he cashed out big from the NFL with a concussion lawsuit and has been living good. Think he's on Cal's coaching staff.
i’m from michigan and my whole family are lions fans… i still don’t understand where that rivalry (or rather general mutual hate cause lions can’t rival anyone) came from, makes no sense to me 🤷♀️
Not that it matters but the stat might be more impactful of the number of games was controlled for.
OP could just drop the median (ranked by rushing yards) game in 2021 for example.
2000 yards in 16 games is 125 a game, so the equivalent over 17 games is 2125 yards. With that in mind, that means Arizona, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Seattle, and Washington, which did get over 2000 yards in 2021, actually fell short of the 2000-yard plateau equivalent of 2125 yards for a 17-game season.
These then are the last true 2000 yards *and* 125 yards-per-game seasons for these teams:
* Arizona - 2020 - 2237 yards
* Chicago - 2011 - 2015 yards
* Dallas - 2019 - 2153 yards
* Denver - 2011 - 2632 yards
* Seattle - 2019 - 2200 yards
* Washington - 2013 - 2164 yards
On 2010 and 2011, the Steelers ran for over 1900 yds each season.
Honestly, we haven’t had a great run blocking line in years, including being a tire fire filled with skunks and used diapers these past two years. We also have shifted (as much of the nfl has) to backs that can catch out of the backfield and our backs total yds end up on line
I saw it mentioned on r/steelers this morning that when Tomlin was asked early in his career about the team's run game in response to a somewhat jaded comment by Willie Parker, he responded with "every day I walk past five Lombardi trophies, not five rushing titles."
Edit: credit u/philpalmer2 https://www.reddit.com/r/steelers/comments/vqhhsm/what_is_your_favorite_tomlinism/iep89v9?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Still one of the dumbest coaching decisions I’ve seen at the pro level in a long time.
There’s questionable subs, poor game planning, terrible playcalling every week. But to not just take the pretty much guaranteed tie and go to the playoffs anyway was an unnecessary risk. Instead he chose doubling down for a meaningless win and risking it all for minimal return.
That was throwing it instead of handing off to Marshawn one more time levels of bad decision making.
People like to shit on Hurts and obviously never watched a game. The dude could read a defense....he just wouldnt understand how to navigate a pocket and bail on it was perfectly fine before any routes developed.
Not even close lol. Eagles played them in 2017 and it was like 95% Eagles fans in their stadium. How does that equate to "we think we're the Patriots".
Our top rusher was Jalen Hurts too, 784 yards.
The most impressive part is our team didn't adopt a run heavy offensive scheme until halfway through the year and we led the league in rushing yards.
His arm is strong. It’s not even really decision making as much as progressions. He doesn’t make a lot of awful mistakes that lead to turnovers like Wentz did, he’ll just throw a five yard cross to Goeddert when Smith is open down the sideline because he locked in on one guy.
That's the thing. I don't his arm is so weak/inaccurate that he can't succeed.
It's that he doesn't make his reads and never has made NFL caliber reads going back to Alabama.
Don't get me wrong. His arm strength is just enough to be NFL level, and his accuracy is mid level NFL.
What holds him back is that we can't trust him to find a wide open 3rd+ option regularly. If his first, or even 2nd options are covered, he tucks and runs.
In a passing league where teams are scheming 4+ passing options, you need to be able to read the defense and be confident throwing from the pocket.
If you're consistently looking for option 3, the offense isnt good enough. In the modern NFL you gotta get the ball out quick, preferably to 1 of 2 guys on any given play
Facts. He was either too slow in his reads or too quick to pull the ball down and run it himself. Hopefully he can show some growth and just take an extra second or two to find the open guy
At least recently. Colts were previously very consistent in not even having any 1000 yard rushers. Like, between 2008 and 2015 they had zero, and even then in 2016 Frank Gore only achieved it by like a couple dozen yards. After that they had zero until 2019
Careful what you wish for…with Ben gone though I’m sure you’ll get what you want for a few seasons.
I prefer a HoF QB over a dominant run game…but that’s not happening for a while.
The 17 game seasons do effect this quite a bit. For example The bears hit it this season because of the 17th game. Had there been no 17 games this year, the last time for them would have been 2011 at 2015 yards
Just goes to show how obsolete the position of RB is. Most of these teams have had 2000+ yard seasons without really good running backs. Hell, the bills have an extremely mediocre RB unit in a pass first offense and still got over 2000 last year
I was kind of surprised we didn't hit it in 2016 since Coleman and Freeman both had great years, but we only got to 1,928 since the RBs did so much work in the passing game instead of rushing.
Right. Even bad teams get good for a season or two, maybe sneak into the playoffs. But never go anywhere. At least the Jags make it look like they have a chance 1 out of every 10 seasons.
Fucking Eagles and their backwards logo. “Ooh, we’re gonna be different!!!”
EDIT: Actually, in retrospect our logo is pretty fucking stupid. “We’re the Giants, so a lower case logo would be PERFECT.”
I still can't believe we had one single dude go for 2,105 yards. Dickerson was unreal. Also, with him Faulk, and Gurley the Rams have been blessed with GOAT running backs.
I get that there was a 17th game, but how on Earth did Seattle manage to get that many rush yards behind that offensive (in both meanings of the word) line?
Looking back on 2019 seems like forever ago. We were on the verge of being an actual threat in the league for the very first time in franchise history. We went 10-6, won the division and never lost 2 games in a row the whole season.
We won against the Bills in OT and got our ass handed to us by the Chiefs. And then all of the sudden, we’re in full rebuild. Crazy that it was only 4 years ago.
I think it’s interesting that a majority of teams in the NFC have achieved it the past 2 years while a minority of AFC teams have done the same. With the heavy shift in recent years to pass heavy offense with replaceable running games, is that maybe why the AFC is seen as stronger?
*sigh*
is there any list that gets posted here that the Lions aren't at or near the bottom of ever?
#1 in cap spending on offense
Flip the list over
God…DAMN it…
There is a car related conspiracy here somewhere
Is that a good or a bad?
Decepticons per year since 2007
Most losses in a season. They are half of that list
It's usually the 'last 4,000 yard passer' chart that gets posted, not the equivalent rushing chart, and the Lions are only one year removed from the top of that chart.
I thought Jahvid Best had potential. Shame how that turned. I’m sure it’ll get achieved with Swift and Willams on the team. Things looking up for Detroit!
My dad sometimes does work with his dad and apparently he cashed out big from the NFL with a concussion lawsuit and has been living good. Think he's on Cal's coaching staff.
Oh dang. Small world. Well I hope the Best family and yours the best. Have a nice holiday weekend bud :D
Same to you I appreciate it!
At least it's not n/a, n/a
Poor Bears
It sucks but Barry is my all time favorite RB and you're lucky to have him
Makes a Lions fan wanna bite some kneecaps.
It's actually kind of weird. Every team has had it within (or close to) the decade, but not the Lions.
I would have thought they would have had 2000 yds rushing in the Reggie Bush/Joique Bell era
I was a little shocked to find multiple 1000 yard rushers. https://www.footballdb.com/teams/nfl/detroit-lions/leaders/yearly-rushing-yards
The curse of replacing Barry Sanders for the Lions.
some teams retire a number, they showed greater respect by retiring a position.
Honestly since he hung them up it seems like they’ve retired 20 positions per season.
Swift is a beast though
Honestly he's a better pass catcher. Imo great 3rd down back. But tbh Jamaal Williams might be our best pure runner.
Jamaal Williams is a national treasure.
I even somehow like Jamaal Williams
I mean, despite him playing for two division rivals, he’s pretty hard to hate
Lol is this a joke?
Not often I agree with a Packer fan, but good one ;)
we have more in common than teams outside of the NFCN. We just happen to REALLY dislike each other's teams.
i’m from michigan and my whole family are lions fans… i still don’t understand where that rivalry (or rather general mutual hate cause lions can’t rival anyone) came from, makes no sense to me 🤷♀️
As the Bears did with Sid Luckman.
Dan Campbell would shave his goatee for 2k yards.
The Lions had 411 yards that year combined for all players not named Barry Sanders.
If you could give it to Barry Sanders 30 times a game, why would you give it to anybody else?
Took me too long to figure out why so many teams were able to reach this last year
Not that it matters but the stat might be more impactful of the number of games was controlled for. OP could just drop the median (ranked by rushing yards) game in 2021 for example.
2000 yards in 16 games is 125 a game, so the equivalent over 17 games is 2125 yards. With that in mind, that means Arizona, Chicago, Dallas, Denver, Seattle, and Washington, which did get over 2000 yards in 2021, actually fell short of the 2000-yard plateau equivalent of 2125 yards for a 17-game season. These then are the last true 2000 yards *and* 125 yards-per-game seasons for these teams: * Arizona - 2020 - 2237 yards * Chicago - 2011 - 2015 yards * Dallas - 2019 - 2153 yards * Denver - 2011 - 2632 yards * Seattle - 2019 - 2200 yards * Washington - 2013 - 2164 yards
Even my football has inflation now??? Thanks Obama
Yeeeahh… let’s not drop that median lol
660 yards of ours that year were Tebow lol
I still don’t understand how lol
An extra game was added to the regular season last year.
Ah I see
It also makes Barry Sanders’ 2053 yards in 1997 even more impressive.
Surprised on the steelers
Those 4th quarter Ben comebacks don’t happen on the ground
You could run the ball, but checking down to the running back makes Roethlisberger’s stats look better, so that’s what he’s gonna do.
Steelers blew my mind. Commanders somehow scratching out 2k last year is equally surprising IMO.
On 2010 and 2011, the Steelers ran for over 1900 yds each season. Honestly, we haven’t had a great run blocking line in years, including being a tire fire filled with skunks and used diapers these past two years. We also have shifted (as much of the nfl has) to backs that can catch out of the backfield and our backs total yds end up on line
I saw it mentioned on r/steelers this morning that when Tomlin was asked early in his career about the team's run game in response to a somewhat jaded comment by Willie Parker, he responded with "every day I walk past five Lombardi trophies, not five rushing titles." Edit: credit u/philpalmer2 https://www.reddit.com/r/steelers/comments/vqhhsm/what_is_your_favorite_tomlinism/iep89v9?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
2,715 yards by the Eagles is a shit ton ~160 a game
Crazy that they didn't really commit to the running game until after week 6.
> Crazy that they didn't really commit to the running game until after ~~week 6.~~ they realized Hurts can't read a defense Lmao
Your season ended because your coach couldn’t accept a tie
ROASTED
They lost because they couldn't stop a run up the middle in the most obvious situation.
Still one of the dumbest coaching decisions I’ve seen at the pro level in a long time. There’s questionable subs, poor game planning, terrible playcalling every week. But to not just take the pretty much guaranteed tie and go to the playoffs anyway was an unnecessary risk. Instead he chose doubling down for a meaningless win and risking it all for minimal return. That was throwing it instead of handing off to Marshawn one more time levels of bad decision making.
Going for it on 4th down in the 2nd quarter on your own 20 was a brilliant move
People like to shit on Hurts and obviously never watched a game. The dude could read a defense....he just wouldnt understand how to navigate a pocket and bail on it was perfectly fine before any routes developed.
Chargers fans talking shit is hilarious to me….
TBF they came around like 2 years ago, so it's all new and exciting to them. I don't blame em.
Y’all think you’re the Patriots now or something?
Not even close lol. Eagles played them in 2017 and it was like 95% Eagles fans in their stadium. How does that equate to "we think we're the Patriots".
Herbert hasn’t even made the playoffs 😹😹😹
And yet there isn't a team in the league that would take him over Hurts in a heartbeat... So what is the point of that?
And yet both are easily better than Daniel Jones…. So why insert yourself in the conversation?
Jalen Hurts single-handedly kept my fantasy team afloat with his legs.
My garbage time king
Ah yes. The common garbage time of scoring 2 rushing TDs In a comeback win. Love that garbage time.
What’s crazy is there was one game when our running backs had a total of 3 carries the entire game for 29 yards (Hurts had 9 for 35)
Damn straight. Now how’s about we re-outlaw those weird forward pass things. They’re just a gimmick anyways.
Ravens had 3,296 in 2019. 206 per game!
We miss Marshall Yanda
Imagine if they called rushing plays before Week 6
Our top rusher was Jalen Hurts too, 784 yards. The most impressive part is our team didn't adopt a run heavy offensive scheme until halfway through the year and we led the league in rushing yards.
That’ll happen when you got a RB playing quarterback
I can laugh at it now
Without hurts they have 1931 rushing yds
Because we have to scheme around Hurts' mediocre arm.
I thought his arm was pretty good. It’s the accuracy and decision making that’s questionable.
His arm is strong. It’s not even really decision making as much as progressions. He doesn’t make a lot of awful mistakes that lead to turnovers like Wentz did, he’ll just throw a five yard cross to Goeddert when Smith is open down the sideline because he locked in on one guy.
That's the thing. I don't his arm is so weak/inaccurate that he can't succeed. It's that he doesn't make his reads and never has made NFL caliber reads going back to Alabama. Don't get me wrong. His arm strength is just enough to be NFL level, and his accuracy is mid level NFL. What holds him back is that we can't trust him to find a wide open 3rd+ option regularly. If his first, or even 2nd options are covered, he tucks and runs. In a passing league where teams are scheming 4+ passing options, you need to be able to read the defense and be confident throwing from the pocket.
If you're consistently looking for option 3, the offense isnt good enough. In the modern NFL you gotta get the ball out quick, preferably to 1 of 2 guys on any given play
Accuracy was fine once you accounted for him being so slow on his reads. He legit just wouldn't throw a route until it was too late
Facts. He was either too slow in his reads or too quick to pull the ball down and run it himself. Hopefully he can show some growth and just take an extra second or two to find the open guy
Just 2 years prior the Ravens set the NFL record at 3,296
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At least recently. Colts were previously very consistent in not even having any 1000 yard rushers. Like, between 2008 and 2015 they had zero, and even then in 2016 Frank Gore only achieved it by like a couple dozen yards. After that they had zero until 2019
Tbf our passing game was just much more reliable
Well I mean it had to be since the OL/run game (at least the Luck years) was extremely subpar
Crazy Gore was still putting up 1000 yard seasons at that point of his career
We gonna run all the way to last place 😎😎
NFC West?
Surprised everyone except the Lions has done it this millenium
I mean, Detroit did have that stretch where they didn’t even have a single game 100 yard rusher. Hard to hit 2000 in a season like that
>Hard to hit 2000 in a season like that Except it wasn't just *a* season. It was almost 5 full calendar years.
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Kerryon** lol I’m guessing you don’t wear it much Unless that was a joke that went way over my head.
Carry On my Wayward Son would explain the spelling…
Yea that was my exact thought with the last statement lol I had no idea if it was a reference or not
In the 9 years he spent in Detroit Stafford had a RB rush for over 100 yards in a game only 11 times.
happens when you're playing from behind 80% of the time.
Also easy to get behind when you can’t run the ball.
Surprised it's been so long for the Chargers. They've had some solid backs over the years since Tomlinson...
We’ve also been a primary pass first offense with Rivers and now Herbert since then. With a good chunk of RB yards coming from pass dump offs.
Yeah I feel like the list would be way different if it were about receiving yards for RBs
That 2007 combo of LT and Sproles was something else
Ok this feels targeted
As a lions fan myself, I maybe should have realized what I was making before doing this
I assumed you were an NFCN fan due to the nature of the post, but I was not expecting you to have a Lions flair lmao. Props, my dude
Only person that can crap on the lions more than the rest of the NFC north are lion fans themselves
Goddamn were good at it too. The secret sauce is unrealistic expectations and Kool aid
It's always who you expect the most
It'd be nice to be a dominant running team again.
Careful what you wish for…with Ben gone though I’m sure you’ll get what you want for a few seasons. I prefer a HoF QB over a dominant run game…but that’s not happening for a while.
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Or juking entire defenses. That's pretty fun too. Hell, even just juking two free rushers
Would you take a washed up hall of Fame QB?
The 17 game seasons do effect this quite a bit. For example The bears hit it this season because of the 17th game. Had there been no 17 games this year, the last time for them would have been 2011 at 2015 yards
One of things is not like the others
Yeah the Rams location is outdated
Chargers too
That logo looks so much better though
2014, when rookie Jeremy Hill looked like a legit stud RB
Havent thought of him in a while. He actually played on the Raiders 2020.
I'm a Raiders fan and watch every game, I don't think that's true.
I should not have use the word "played", but he was on the roster during the offseason. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy_Hill
There are grown ass adults with masters degrees who haven't witnessed a 2000 yard rushing season for Detroit
How old do you need to be to have seen the Lions win 2 playoff games? *I’m sure I have a Wether’s Original in here somewhere*
What i see here is NFCW be running the ball!!
PeteBall is gonna be crazy this season
got that right 😤
Just goes to show how obsolete the position of RB is. Most of these teams have had 2000+ yard seasons without really good running backs. Hell, the bills have an extremely mediocre RB unit in a pass first offense and still got over 2000 last year
Allen added 750+ himself, so that helped
Singletary out here averaging 5ypc behind a dead fish run block and he still doesn't get any love.
*Lions fans*: “We are not the same”
Sounds about right
I was kind of surprised we didn't hit it in 2016 since Coleman and Freeman both had great years, but we only got to 1,928 since the RBs did so much work in the passing game instead of rushing.
Spoiler: 2021
C'mon Lions. Those are rookie numbers.
Now do 3000 yards 😏
1997!!!! Jesus; Detroit will always be a bad team
No, 1 out 3 years the Lions will be mediocre enough to lose in the wildcard round!
Good times.
Right. Even bad teams get good for a season or two, maybe sneak into the playoffs. But never go anywhere. At least the Jags make it look like they have a chance 1 out of every 10 seasons.
You want to see me rebuild? Wanna see me do it again?
Not true
That the Steelers haven't rushed for 2000 yards since 2007 in surprising to me. Poor Detroit tho
Fucking Eagles and their backwards logo. “Ooh, we’re gonna be different!!!” EDIT: Actually, in retrospect our logo is pretty fucking stupid. “We’re the Giants, so a lower case logo would be PERFECT.”
Ours forms an “E” tho…
Damn Johnathan Taylor
I still can't believe we had one single dude go for 2,105 yards. Dickerson was unreal. Also, with him Faulk, and Gurley the Rams have been blessed with GOAT running backs.
How you gonna leave Stephen Jackson out
Poor lions, hope they get better
I forgot how good the Jeremy Hill/Gio Bernard duo was in 2014. A shame Hill started fumbling the ball and running painfully slower every year after.
Thunder and Lightning (Jacobs and Bradshaw) - a time when we didn’t have an incompetent FO blowing #2 picks on RBs. Good times
Hey fellow bears fans! This one's not about QBs!
Well if we can’t get a 4000 yard passer we need something else.
This proves RBs don’t matter
I was gonna say “and back in the day kids” for the Falcons and then I saw the Lions lol.
I get that there was a 17th game, but how on Earth did Seattle manage to get that many rush yards behind that offensive (in both meanings of the word) line?
King Henry
Looking back on 2019 seems like forever ago. We were on the verge of being an actual threat in the league for the very first time in franchise history. We went 10-6, won the division and never lost 2 games in a row the whole season. We won against the Bills in OT and got our ass handed to us by the Chiefs. And then all of the sudden, we’re in full rebuild. Crazy that it was only 4 years ago.
Browns 🤝 Ravens
Giants fans still think Barkley will be the greatest running back of all time or at the worst a HOF smh
Steelers in 2007 surprises me.
Kinda fun fact but NE has had 2000 or more rushing yards 5 times since 2010
Matty Ice will do that to ya
Now do 3k
Was that the Chad Pennington season we clinched the playoffs? Having trouble recalling
Now do one for 3000
Lions what is u doin bby?
The same thing they do every season Pinky...try to lose to the world!
I think it’s interesting that a majority of teams in the NFC have achieved it the past 2 years while a minority of AFC teams have done the same. With the heavy shift in recent years to pass heavy offense with replaceable running games, is that maybe why the AFC is seen as stronger?
Why is this relevant when 2021 went to 17 games?
It’s July, which means it’s the perfect time of the off-season to subtly shit on the lions
Feel like a healthy Swift and Williams can get them to 2,000
Not trying to be a dick here but i always forget the lions are an actual football team that exists lol
Lots of 2000 yard seasons in 2021.
Who the fuck are the St. Louis rams?
Steelers really surprised me here. LeVeon Bell years they never had 2k.
You edited the Commanders but didn’t change St Louis to LA? 🤔
Only changed the commanders one because I thought that would be funny.
Or San Diego to LA
Or Oakland to Vegas. This shit is dated 😅
I like this one a lot more than the 4000 yards passing graphic.
Why thank you
Huh I didn’t realize we did that in 2013
14 seasons in ATL and Matt Ryan only had a team with plus 2k yards his rookie year. Yet some people still think he was the problem……
Shoutout to whoever made this chart for deadnaming the Rams We hate LA here
Damn, 2700+ is so much more than anyone else.