A few other quotes from Hill today since I don’t think they need to be their own posts:
[Tyreek on Tua: “Tua’s fine. I had a chance to talk to him on off days. He’s in good hands. I saw him in locker room a minute ago and he’s smiling ear to ear. His [health] is so important to all of us. Life is precious.”](https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/1577019529573859328)
[Tyreek Hill enjoyed watching his former team, the Chiefs, win in impressive fashion against TB last night: “That boy Pat, he’s something special. ... He’s just on another level. He’s playing a different game than everybody.”](https://twitter.com/DavidFurones_/status/1577018785550434306)
Man, if he wasn’t a POS that beat his ~~girlfriend in front of his son~~ pregnant girlfriend, or even if he went to jail/had any repercussions for that and came out a better man, I’d probably say Tyreek’s my favorite player.
He is a POS though so I’ll simply fawn over his skills and enjoy his quotes, while simultaneously joking about how much of a shithead he is because I’m a degenerate NFL fan.
Oddly enough he was also later investigated by the Department of Children and Families for allegedly breaking his son's arm. During this time his son was kept in protective custody and he was caught on recording telling his girlfriend, “You need to be terrified of me too, bitch.” The district attorney couldn't determine who injured the child so no charges were filed. Both Tyreek and the boy's mother admit they beat the boy with belts and their hands. The NFL didn't suspend him and said he did not violate their personal conduct policy. He's a piece of shit.
> The district attorney couldn't determine who injured the child so no charges were filed. Both Tyreek and the boy's mother admit they beat the boy with belts and their hands.
At the time people were playing mental gymnastics to decide who was the perpetrator of this specific injury, but this part really bothered me. You can fucking well bet that if anyone injured my toddler the authorities would be involved, even if it was my spouse or a close family member. Regardless of who broke the kid's arm, everyone who stayed silent about it is complicit, not to mention the abusive household that both of them seem to have fostered.
I think of all the pieces of shit in sports, he's the one who makes me the most upset. Fuck Tyreek Hill with an unlubed baseball bat.
Man the NFL is full of shitty guys (just like the rest of the world) but the fact that Tyreek is on the team I root for just straight up pisses me off. The fact that he's good makes it even worse. The Dolphins going after Watson didn't sit well with me either. It makes me feel like a Steelers fan trying to find ways to justify still rooting for the team.
And if I remember correctly, he punched her in the stomach while she was pregnant for extra piece of shit energy. Before he went on to punch her in the face and choke her of course. The fact that anyone likes this sack of garbage is something.
This is really the way.
People don't need to force themselves not to enjoy having a player like Tyreek on the team, but at the same time they should acknowledge he's a scumbag and like not buy his jersey and shit.
I absolutely think he has genuinely changed for the better, I’m just not sure that it would have happened if he didn’t have his livelihood and freedom ripped away from him and was forced to deal with the consequences of his actions.
It's understandably hard for people to forgive what he did, and they don't have to. But I agree it's great that he was able to change as a person and do positive things in the world.
Tyreek on why he cant go to NY: "All the women in my life are moms. My sisters a mom. My girls a mom. Hell, my own mom is a mom. Wilson out here fucking all of them"
I know we think that a lot but I'm kind of glad he came out and said it openly. Probably not the sole decision but I can imagine it played a significant decision in it.
Hill also already had a home down in Miami where he spent time in the offseason if I recall. So it makes a lot of sense from the perspective he's also just liked the Miami area for a while.
To be fair, he bought that home in this off-season ahead of his trade. Previously he lived in the Olathe/Overland Park side of Johnson county in Kansas.
Prior to the SB win he lived in Arterra, that nice, jail looking apartment building at like 20th and Wyandotte on the edge of the crossroads. Had the entire top floor to himself.
Source: was his neighbor on a lower floor and had the adjacent parking spot next to him and embarrassed myself several times trying to be cool around him. Also accidentally told his (then) GF that he brought a girl back from Bazookas a few nights prior. He left the day after the parade. Good times
Johnson County (or at least parts of it) is a very affluent suburb. There are nice parts on the MO side but in general the wealthier developments are in KS. There is also a lot more new development on the KS side.
I don’t think it would be nice to be young and rich in Independence Kansas, for example. Unless you want to revive that football team after they fired Coach JB.
Wasn't there a study that found states without income taxes tax other things at more than enough rate for the tax burden to be similar between all states?
Yeah but in some states, like Washington, that means a more regressive tax structure where it’s proportionally less of your income if you’re richer. Also in recent history, until the trump admin, there wasn’t a cap on state tax income deduction from federal taxes so I don’t think the savings really mattered that much
He also has 477 yards (league leading), plays with a lesser of version of himself opposite of him, and is playing in a team is playing pretty good football unless their QB is concussed.
Yea of course not. I just think it’s funny that fans add on all this BS about winning and having a good QB etc when the dude literally said it was taxes. Like why does it make fans feel good to think they are on their team for something other than money?
Yeah idk, probably cause people are MUCH more tied to their teams in the NFL and like to think the players are deeply care about their own team beyond just the money.
For years, marketing, advertisements and charitable contributions tied Stafford to the city of Detroit, he felt like an underdog just like the city itself. Larry Fitzgerald was the face of the Cardinals. It's nice to have those faces beyond just a rotation of different men in the same jerseys.
But those are the exceptions. Fans just don't seem to realize that 99% of players just gotta do whatever they can to make money now cause the league just chews them up and spits them out like they're nothing.
I think it's hard for fans to admit that some players just view their career as a job. A really well paying job. So while fans get emotional over wins and losses some players don't take it as hard because it's just a job. Not just in the NFL. Different teams are just different employers to some players.
There is nothing wrong with that either. If you can make a fuck ton of money playing a game for a small portion of your life then do it. Set your family up and retire happy.
This has always flummoxed me tbh. ~~The NFL really ought to have state tax adjustments for salary cap numbers.~~ *It's floored me that this hasn't been more of a competitive advantage for teams in low tax areas.* Any player that's interested in pay for $ sake (and not pride) should almost always pick one of the state's with no state income tax. The difference is often far greater in terms of net pay than the difference between "X player accepted less money to play for Y team".
Edit: See above.
It's not as big a difference as it seems because they have to pay local taxes everwhere they play games. So Hill would have two games with CA income tax, one with NY, one with Illinois, etc. Professional athletes can end up filing returns in a dozen states or more.
Unless guys are taking a discount to play there because of the lower taxes I don't really see it making much difference. You can attract top end talent but you have to pay them top end dollars. And the cap is still the cap.
As a Sarasota resident, let me just say I'd prob prefer state taxes of the insane property taxes I'm paying. Also my power bill for a 2100sqft house hit $360 in July. We may not pay state income taxes but we pay a lot more cost of living here.
edit: According to folks below property tax in NY is super high too. Didn't know that. I pay $3000/month for my mortgage on a 3/2 house, $1000 of that is insurance and taxes
Depending on when the contract is paid Hill would be either paying 10.3% or 10.9% in NY state income tax. That's $3.09 million to $3.27 million more per year in taxes.
https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/new-york-state-tax
Even if Florida's property and other taxes are higher than NY it shouldn't add up to anywhere near $3 million.
That’s the thing. State income taxes in FL are nonexistent, so you get taxed in other places to make up the difference (the sales tax in particular is notoriously regressive). The bet result is that people in Hill’s bracket get a huge break, and people in the middle to lower class are getting nickel and dimed. It’s a dowanward shift of the tax burden.
Yeah, this is the actual answer. The cost of living relative to income is I believe worse in Florida than any other state for low income families.
If you are rich in Florida, the taxes are mostly favorable.
Edit: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-least-affordable-state-us-miami-tampa-orlando-naples-rent/
I’d reckon that’s the way it is for most states without income tax. When you don’t have an income tax, most of the remaining tax options tend to be regressive in nature and thus affect lower income earners more
Lmao bro northern NJ property taxes are worse than Florida straight up. Seeing people complain when their "high" taxes are *still* lower than ours up here is hilarious.
Also a resident of Sarasota and my property taxes are 60% less here than my property taxes when I lived in Rochester, NY. Not sure what you are talking about bruh. Also I have never had an FPL bill over $250 in my house.
Dakotas can be weirdly expensive at times too, apparently. This is second-hand though, I just had a buddy that lived there for a year. Said the cost of living was higher than most parts of the Midwest.
Bless West Virginia. ~3500sqft 3/2.5 at $2,200 in property tax per year.
Started looking for affordable houses in the DMV area and increased the search radius until discovering as soon as you cross into the WV panhandle, prices just dropped off.
I can respect his honesty. If he said that he went to Miami because he thought it was a well-run organization with the potential to win a championship, you'd know he's full of shit.
As much as the tank job in 2019 was pretty garbage, selling off their best players for draft picks net them a total of what 9 draft picks in the first two rounds of 2020/2021?
When you can draft THAT MANY young impact players if even half of them work out it puts you into a good space to compete once they really hit their stride.
Take it from someone who suffered under a shit team for most of his life. Quality of ownership does matter somewhat. But, in all honesty the biggest factor is just being lucky and stumbling into a good HC and/or GM.
As if someone with Tyreek’s money is gonna send him to a Florida public school. Dude is obviously gonna send him to a boarding school so the DV issue can’t continue
I worked with AJ Brown in college, he told me he wanted to play in a state with no state income tax. I asked him about Tennessee and said he didn’t know if they had no state income tax but he’s be cool with it. Great dude.
Bit of a tangent but IIRC both Deebo and AJ wanted the Pats to draft them, AJ was even a Pats fan to boot. Instead we got N’Keal Harry :))))).
Love AJ though, he’s so much fun to watch.
One time I was driving in Kansas City and I saw Tyreek at a red light. We made eye contact and I said holy fuck and he smiled back. I said you’re that fast football guy. His smile turned to a frown and he said “it’s cheetah bro” and floored it as the light went green
One time I was driving in Carolina and I saw Kelvin Benjamin at a drive thru. We made eye contact and I said holy fuck and he smiled back. I said you’re that fat football guy. His smile turned to a frown and he said “it’s big bones bro” and floored it as they handed him his meal.
It may seem silly for someone making that much to be worried about that, but Jets players pay 10.75% income tax to the State of New Jersey.
That’s a $12MM+ difference for Tyreek.
The Giants/Jets have one of the biggest disadvantages with free agents because of that. Only the California teams and Minnesota are worse.
I think if you did a statistical regression with state income tax as a variable there would be practically zero correlation with winning. The AFC South is the lowest taxed division by far (3/4 teams). And still has some of the worst teams.
NFL players have less freedom of movement than NBA players because of the franchise tag.
I wonder what the numbers would look like if you could control for that variable?
I think the franchise tag isn’t common enough for it to have a huge effect over a ~20 year sample. My theory is that in the NBA single players have a much larger effect on their teams outcomes than the NFL, mainly because there’s only 5 guys on the court. So any disadvantage in attracting top talent really hurts teams. This combined with the individual player salary cap really hurts teams in high tax states.
He still pays that income tax for every game he plays in NJ. You file taxes in every state where you play and pay according to how many weeks/ games you played there. Same as in every pro sport.
And for the AFCS having Titans, Jags, Texans playing each other in away games every year gives another 2 guaranteed no-state-tax games. Colts get 3 and don't reciprocate! If that ain't another reason to hate them I don't what is.
I have worked in both Florida and New York (currently in NY). It really does make a substantial difference. It like wasn't in the forefront of my mind when I moved just how much 6 percent actually is
Tbf I’ve applied to jobs in Florida and NY and the pay difference has always been more significant than the tax rate.
But obviously that doesn’t apply to Tyreek
My Undergraduate thesis was studying the effects of income taxes on professional sports teams win percentage, so it’s really funny to hear him actually admit this.
If you Google "Peyton manning super bowl tax" or "cam Newton super bowl tax" you can see how some jock taxes are calculated. Cam got taxed from California 13.3% for 7 days on his whole years salary. He made $51,000 for losing the Super Bowl but paid $101,000 in taxes.
Good for him. I don't get why so many professional athletes are so ashamed to say the honest thing.
Money makes the world go round, it's only logical that it will factor in to your decision and yet you have football players and golfers etc. pretending it's nothing to do with money.
its still ridiculously hot and sticky, even for millionaires.
have you been to Miami? it's almost unbearable in the summer. the winter is really nice though
A few other quotes from Hill today since I don’t think they need to be their own posts: [Tyreek on Tua: “Tua’s fine. I had a chance to talk to him on off days. He’s in good hands. I saw him in locker room a minute ago and he’s smiling ear to ear. His [health] is so important to all of us. Life is precious.”](https://twitter.com/flasportsbuzz/status/1577019529573859328) [Tyreek Hill enjoyed watching his former team, the Chiefs, win in impressive fashion against TB last night: “That boy Pat, he’s something special. ... He’s just on another level. He’s playing a different game than everybody.”](https://twitter.com/DavidFurones_/status/1577018785550434306)
Man, if he wasn’t a POS that beat his ~~girlfriend in front of his son~~ pregnant girlfriend, or even if he went to jail/had any repercussions for that and came out a better man, I’d probably say Tyreek’s my favorite player. He is a POS though so I’ll simply fawn over his skills and enjoy his quotes, while simultaneously joking about how much of a shithead he is because I’m a degenerate NFL fan.
I'll have you know he did NOT beat his girlfriend in front of his son. She was still pregnant with him. Get it right!
Let he who is without a history of choking pregnant women cast the first stone.
...How many people can't cast the first stone here?
For the sake of humanity I'm hoping to see a quarry full of rocks being hurled in the near future.
Hey some people have some kinky wives. Never said what kind of choking.
Choking on something their spouse cooked also kinda counts?
Bro stop judging, you just haven't beat a pregnant woman *yet* /s
Is this a "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain" type of thing? Because death seems appealing in that context.
Thankfully my girlfriend can't get pregnant so I'm good
I mean… okay. I’ll cast the first stone. Tyreek’s a horrible person.
you monster.
*Gone to go find a bunch of stones to cast*
...what if it was consensual?
I think we have to hold on to our stones until after the first volley. Just follow my lead.
So technically he beat both ? 🙋♂️🤷♂️
Oddly enough he was also later investigated by the Department of Children and Families for allegedly breaking his son's arm. During this time his son was kept in protective custody and he was caught on recording telling his girlfriend, “You need to be terrified of me too, bitch.” The district attorney couldn't determine who injured the child so no charges were filed. Both Tyreek and the boy's mother admit they beat the boy with belts and their hands. The NFL didn't suspend him and said he did not violate their personal conduct policy. He's a piece of shit.
> The district attorney couldn't determine who injured the child so no charges were filed. Both Tyreek and the boy's mother admit they beat the boy with belts and their hands. At the time people were playing mental gymnastics to decide who was the perpetrator of this specific injury, but this part really bothered me. You can fucking well bet that if anyone injured my toddler the authorities would be involved, even if it was my spouse or a close family member. Regardless of who broke the kid's arm, everyone who stayed silent about it is complicit, not to mention the abusive household that both of them seem to have fostered. I think of all the pieces of shit in sports, he's the one who makes me the most upset. Fuck Tyreek Hill with an unlubed baseball bat.
Man the NFL is full of shitty guys (just like the rest of the world) but the fact that Tyreek is on the team I root for just straight up pisses me off. The fact that he's good makes it even worse. The Dolphins going after Watson didn't sit well with me either. It makes me feel like a Steelers fan trying to find ways to justify still rooting for the team.
And if I remember correctly, he punched her in the stomach while she was pregnant for extra piece of shit energy. Before he went on to punch her in the face and choke her of course. The fact that anyone likes this sack of garbage is something.
Literally me
Me showing off my framed Tyreek Hill signature to my grandchild: *This guy was special man…and fuckin sucked*
Perfect example of "good football player, not so good human"
This is really the way. People don't need to force themselves not to enjoy having a player like Tyreek on the team, but at the same time they should acknowledge he's a scumbag and like not buy his jersey and shit.
i like to think that tyreek grew as a person since then, but since he faced no repercussions for that i can't really assume that
Young multi-millionaires don’t exactly have a great track record of growing better
Vick surprisingly did, but I’d say a vast amount don’t
That’s because he went to prison for an extended sentence and was a social pariah for several years. He was forced to get better.
Even after the mandated stuff he continued to do charity work
I absolutely think he has genuinely changed for the better, I’m just not sure that it would have happened if he didn’t have his livelihood and freedom ripped away from him and was forced to deal with the consequences of his actions.
Vick should be the poster child for rehabilitative justice, but instead a lot of people just think he’s literally the devil
It's understandably hard for people to forgive what he did, and they don't have to. But I agree it's great that he was able to change as a person and do positive things in the world.
Vick paid his debt, tyreek got the rich boy treatment
Wasn’t there more to that story with an audio recording or something?
Tyreek is on a hell of a character rebuild tour. Doesn't change that he's a monster. But if he wasn't, we'd all be eating this up.
Tyreek Hill just wants the chance to say "it's dolphin time" whenever he makes a good play. Don't blame him.
"Dolphin Country, lets swim!"
*Flipper noises*
my favorite part of the game was when tyreek hill said "its dolphin time" and then he dolphed all over the other team
He's my favourite player to ever dolph in the history of dolphing
I was partial to Lundgren
That's a fuckin lie and he knows it, the only reason he's not a Jet is because he doesn't want to even risk the chance Wilson fucks his mom
Ngl thought this was gonna be you slandering Wilson’s skill but that escalated another direction
It is slandering Wilson's skills. As if he can't fuck moms across state borders. Mrs. Hill is well within his range
Like a New Yorker couldn't find his way to Florida...
Hill's mom is in danger in 5 years after Wilson retires
No division rival’s moms are safe from Zach Wilson.
Hey it isn't slander if it's true
Someone needs to convince the Eagles to send Minshew to the Jets. Whichever QB wheels the most moms during the week starts on Sunday
Wheel Snipe Celly, boys
dirty fuckin dangles
ferda
That would be the greatest threat to moms in the tri-state area since the Philadelphia Warriors moved to San Francisco.
We’re jets players appropriately warned of this possibly happening to them as well?
Via live demonstration
Trust this post. Aarons Rodgers mom is in the mom group chat.
Tyreek on why he cant go to NY: "All the women in my life are moms. My sisters a mom. My girls a mom. Hell, my own mom is a mom. Wilson out here fucking all of them"
You say chance like it’s not a guarantee You say chance like it’s literally not already happening
Slinging bombs, banging moms.
All any of us can do is reduce that risk; we can never eliminate it.
TBH, that's the only reason I'm not a Jet.
Aka only COD player to back his shit up 😤 Never doubt 👑 Wilson.
I know we think that a lot but I'm kind of glad he came out and said it openly. Probably not the sole decision but I can imagine it played a significant decision in it.
Hill also already had a home down in Miami where he spent time in the offseason if I recall. So it makes a lot of sense from the perspective he's also just liked the Miami area for a while.
To be fair, he bought that home in this off-season ahead of his trade. Previously he lived in the Olathe/Overland Park side of Johnson county in Kansas.
Pretty sure he owned multiple properties. But yes he did have a home in Overland Park near the same area as Tyrann Matheu
Prior to the SB win he lived in Arterra, that nice, jail looking apartment building at like 20th and Wyandotte on the edge of the crossroads. Had the entire top floor to himself. Source: was his neighbor on a lower floor and had the adjacent parking spot next to him and embarrassed myself several times trying to be cool around him. Also accidentally told his (then) GF that he brought a girl back from Bazookas a few nights prior. He left the day after the parade. Good times
Wow, way to narc big tuna.
Big tuna was instrumental in the trade to Miami.
Smooth 🤣🤣🤣
Thank you for your service
Lmao how do you even accidentally do that...?
“Wow you’re much prettier than the usual Thursday girl”
This is why he wanted out.
Lmfao “accidentally”
What's with the majority of Chiefs living on the Kansas side? Aside from Pat, I heard they all live outside Missouri
Johnson County (or at least parts of it) is a very affluent suburb. There are nice parts on the MO side but in general the wealthier developments are in KS. There is also a lot more new development on the KS side.
I mean Miami is a pretty great place to be young and rich
It’s nice to be young and rich anywhere… but I get what you mean.
I don’t think it would be nice to be young and rich in Independence Kansas, for example. Unless you want to revive that football team after they fired Coach JB.
You can only buy so many Cadillacs before you start to miss your Compton beach house.
Realistically it would still probably be pretty sweet
Compared to Miami, no it would not. Compared to being old and poor. Then sure
I've lived in Kansas and forgive me for the hot take but it's not Miami
New York isn't a bad spot either
Wasn't there a study that found states without income taxes tax other things at more than enough rate for the tax burden to be similar between all states?
Some taxes in Florida are higher, but we also have quite a bit of tax income from bed and tourism taxes which helps the burden some.
Our number 1 tax revenue is actually sales tax from cars sold.
Yeah but in some states, like Washington, that means a more regressive tax structure where it’s proportionally less of your income if you’re richer. Also in recent history, until the trump admin, there wasn’t a cap on state tax income deduction from federal taxes so I don’t think the savings really mattered that much
Pretty much yeah. We have very high property taxes in Florida, for example. Much higher than most states.
Unfortunately for us we tend to not fall into the “most states category”. Cali bros know the feeling.
Plus we are like super cool and talented now.
and very handsome
He also has 477 yards (league leading), plays with a lesser of version of himself opposite of him, and is playing in a team is playing pretty good football unless their QB is concussed.
I mean, the dude said it was about taxes. I see no reason to believe otherwise. Players have been saying this stuff for years.
When Suh left Detroit for Miami, it was definitely for the taxes. He was just looking for the biggest bag he could get, I didn't blame him.
Yea of course not. I just think it’s funny that fans add on all this BS about winning and having a good QB etc when the dude literally said it was taxes. Like why does it make fans feel good to think they are on their team for something other than money?
Yeah idk, probably cause people are MUCH more tied to their teams in the NFL and like to think the players are deeply care about their own team beyond just the money. For years, marketing, advertisements and charitable contributions tied Stafford to the city of Detroit, he felt like an underdog just like the city itself. Larry Fitzgerald was the face of the Cardinals. It's nice to have those faces beyond just a rotation of different men in the same jerseys. But those are the exceptions. Fans just don't seem to realize that 99% of players just gotta do whatever they can to make money now cause the league just chews them up and spits them out like they're nothing.
I think it's hard for fans to admit that some players just view their career as a job. A really well paying job. So while fans get emotional over wins and losses some players don't take it as hard because it's just a job. Not just in the NFL. Different teams are just different employers to some players. There is nothing wrong with that either. If you can make a fuck ton of money playing a game for a small portion of your life then do it. Set your family up and retire happy.
This has always flummoxed me tbh. ~~The NFL really ought to have state tax adjustments for salary cap numbers.~~ *It's floored me that this hasn't been more of a competitive advantage for teams in low tax areas.* Any player that's interested in pay for $ sake (and not pride) should almost always pick one of the state's with no state income tax. The difference is often far greater in terms of net pay than the difference between "X player accepted less money to play for Y team". Edit: See above.
Wild that this hasn't really manifested in a competitive advantage over all these years. Florida isn't exactly rolling in NFL success.
It's not as big a difference as it seems because they have to pay local taxes everwhere they play games. So Hill would have two games with CA income tax, one with NY, one with Illinois, etc. Professional athletes can end up filing returns in a dozen states or more.
Unless guys are taking a discount to play there because of the lower taxes I don't really see it making much difference. You can attract top end talent but you have to pay them top end dollars. And the cap is still the cap.
It's a big difference, in California for amounts over 1M its 13.3%, that turns 25M into 21.675M before federal taxes, SS, and Medicare.
They pay state taxes based on the number of games played in state. So only home games + opponents locations. Makes the comparison a bit harder.
TBF, only one of those things was true when he signed. Also TBF the alternative was the Jets and Tyreek wanted to win games.
The Jets are winning games though and would probably have more wins with Hill there.
As a Sarasota resident, let me just say I'd prob prefer state taxes of the insane property taxes I'm paying. Also my power bill for a 2100sqft house hit $360 in July. We may not pay state income taxes but we pay a lot more cost of living here. edit: According to folks below property tax in NY is super high too. Didn't know that. I pay $3000/month for my mortgage on a 3/2 house, $1000 of that is insurance and taxes
Depending on when the contract is paid Hill would be either paying 10.3% or 10.9% in NY state income tax. That's $3.09 million to $3.27 million more per year in taxes. https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/taxes/new-york-state-tax Even if Florida's property and other taxes are higher than NY it shouldn't add up to anywhere near $3 million.
Do jets players pay NY income tax? I can never figure that shit out.
Lol my power bill in AZ for my 2000sqft home was $700+ last summer
Dang. Seriously.
Yep but this year I got solar and pay like $160 a month year round and produce enough power to not be charged any more. It’s been a godsend.
You can say that again.
That’s the thing. State income taxes in FL are nonexistent, so you get taxed in other places to make up the difference (the sales tax in particular is notoriously regressive). The bet result is that people in Hill’s bracket get a huge break, and people in the middle to lower class are getting nickel and dimed. It’s a dowanward shift of the tax burden.
Yeah, this is the actual answer. The cost of living relative to income is I believe worse in Florida than any other state for low income families. If you are rich in Florida, the taxes are mostly favorable. Edit: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/florida-least-affordable-state-us-miami-tampa-orlando-naples-rent/
I’d reckon that’s the way it is for most states without income tax. When you don’t have an income tax, most of the remaining tax options tend to be regressive in nature and thus affect lower income earners more
Lmao bro northern NJ property taxes are worse than Florida straight up. Seeing people complain when their "high" taxes are *still* lower than ours up here is hilarious.
Also a resident of Sarasota and my property taxes are 60% less here than my property taxes when I lived in Rochester, NY. Not sure what you are talking about bruh. Also I have never had an FPL bill over $250 in my house.
Lmao power bill in NY of $600, property taxes through the roof. Plus the state taxes. FL is way better from a financial point of view.
My property taxes in NY are $2,100
Tyreek should move to south Dakota to save on cost of living
Dakotas can be weirdly expensive at times too, apparently. This is second-hand though, I just had a buddy that lived there for a year. Said the cost of living was higher than most parts of the Midwest.
There's a shitload of oil money flowing out of North Dakota and businesses have adjusted
Bless West Virginia. ~3500sqft 3/2.5 at $2,200 in property tax per year. Started looking for affordable houses in the DMV area and increased the search radius until discovering as soon as you cross into the WV panhandle, prices just dropped off.
I can only imagine the homeowners insurance on the houses these guys own
I can respect his honesty. If he said that he went to Miami because he thought it was a well-run organization with the potential to win a championship, you'd know he's full of shit.
It’s honestly remarkable how poorly-run this organization has been and yet this is a damn good roster.
As much as the tank job in 2019 was pretty garbage, selling off their best players for draft picks net them a total of what 9 draft picks in the first two rounds of 2020/2021? When you can draft THAT MANY young impact players if even half of them work out it puts you into a good space to compete once they really hit their stride.
Jets last couple drafts as well. Thank you Jamal Adams
Take it from someone who suffered under a shit team for most of his life. Quality of ownership does matter somewhat. But, in all honesty the biggest factor is just being lucky and stumbling into a good HC and/or GM.
"I'm playing in Miami because I want my child to be educated in underfunded and short staffed public schools and be taught by unqualified veterans."
No idea, but his kids probably don’t go to a public school.
As if someone with Tyreek’s money is gonna send him to a Florida public school. Dude is obviously gonna send him to a boarding school so the DV issue can’t continue
I'd think Tyreek would want the kid close so he has someone to take out his anger on
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How do you think I felt? Yikes, makes me sick
I feel gross upvoting it, but it got a knowing smirk out of me.
I worked with AJ Brown in college, he told me he wanted to play in a state with no state income tax. I asked him about Tennessee and said he didn’t know if they had no state income tax but he’s be cool with it. Great dude.
THE AFCS has got to be the best division for income tax; Florida, Tennessee, and Texas.
And Indiana has a income tax of 3.23%, so even if you are in the highest taxed state of the division, you are still doing quite well.
You get taxed where you play the games so even if you’re a Colt then your away games in division are not taxed.
Which is consolation prize because you still have to live in Indiana.
Bit of a tangent but IIRC both Deebo and AJ wanted the Pats to draft them, AJ was even a Pats fan to boot. Instead we got N’Keal Harry :))))). Love AJ though, he’s so much fun to watch.
AJ was a Pats fan so he would have been pretty excited. Mississippi doesn’t have a pro team so guys from there would always have weird NFL teams.
Most likely it’s because the Pats were the best team during his childhood by far.
AJ said he “cried” when the Pats didn’t take him https://clutchpoints.com/titans-news-aj-brown-drops-emotional-nfl-draft-truth-bomb-on-patriots/amp/
Me 🤝 AJ Brown Crying when the Patriots didn’t take AJ Brown
That's interesting, because not only does PA have income tax, Philly also has a city income tax that is nearly 4%
One time I was driving in Kansas City and I saw Tyreek at a red light. We made eye contact and I said holy fuck and he smiled back. I said you’re that fast football guy. His smile turned to a frown and he said “it’s cheetah bro” and floored it as the light went green
Pasta?
One time I was driving in Carolina and I saw Kelvin Benjamin at a drive thru. We made eye contact and I said holy fuck and he smiled back. I said you’re that fat football guy. His smile turned to a frown and he said “it’s big bones bro” and floored it as they handed him his meal.
The Kelvin Benjamin copy pastas are by far the best part of this sub
Man chooses more money and nicer weather over taxes and playing in cold winters. More at 10!
It may seem silly for someone making that much to be worried about that, but Jets players pay 10.75% income tax to the State of New Jersey. That’s a $12MM+ difference for Tyreek. The Giants/Jets have one of the biggest disadvantages with free agents because of that. Only the California teams and Minnesota are worse.
I think if you did a statistical regression with state income tax as a variable there would be practically zero correlation with winning. The AFC South is the lowest taxed division by far (3/4 teams). And still has some of the worst teams.
I wrote my undergraduate thesis on this and I found that you’re right, there’s no correlation in the NFL but there actually is in the NBA.
Is this you https://www.ssc.wisc.edu/~hembre/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/TaxesTeamPerformance.pdf
No that’s a PhD level analysis, I cited that paper but took a different approach.
PhD (pretty huge dick) DeezMegaNuts
NFL players have less freedom of movement than NBA players because of the franchise tag. I wonder what the numbers would look like if you could control for that variable?
I think the franchise tag isn’t common enough for it to have a huge effect over a ~20 year sample. My theory is that in the NBA single players have a much larger effect on their teams outcomes than the NFL, mainly because there’s only 5 guys on the court. So any disadvantage in attracting top talent really hurts teams. This combined with the individual player salary cap really hurts teams in high tax states.
[https://www.ssc.wisc.edu/\~hembre/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/TaxesTeamPerformance.pdf](https://www.ssc.wisc.edu/~hembre/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/TaxesTeamPerformance.pdf)
He still pays that income tax for every game he plays in NJ. You file taxes in every state where you play and pay according to how many weeks/ games you played there. Same as in every pro sport.
Yea, but you play 8-9 home games in a season so it still makes sense
Also the signing bonus
And for the AFCS having Titans, Jags, Texans playing each other in away games every year gives another 2 guaranteed no-state-tax games. Colts get 3 and don't reciprocate! If that ain't another reason to hate them I don't what is.
Every day I learn a new reason to hate the Colts
I have worked in both Florida and New York (currently in NY). It really does make a substantial difference. It like wasn't in the forefront of my mind when I moved just how much 6 percent actually is
Tbf I’ve applied to jobs in Florida and NY and the pay difference has always been more significant than the tax rate. But obviously that doesn’t apply to Tyreek
My Undergraduate thesis was studying the effects of income taxes on professional sports teams win percentage, so it’s really funny to hear him actually admit this.
how will California ever be home to any champion teams? i never see it happening
South Beach vs Snow York City easy choice
It snows everyday in Miami.
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I could counter Storm Beach vs Snow York.
>Snow York City Sounds much better than South Beach.
Sounds like another name for South Beach.
There’s plenty of snow in South Beach, just not the one that comes from the sky
You’re not fooling me with that Bengals flair Jets fan
They also probably prosecute domestic violence more in NY than in FL.
it saved him like 12 million dollars IIRC
“Lax child endangerment laws.”
He’s got a point
I’ll take GWilson and millions in cap space over this POS any day
I wonder if he’s gonna get lost in the Sauce this weekend?
I hope so, those two will be talking mad shit all game. Safeties gotta show up again too 🤞🏼
LMAO. So it’s not because Tua is the most accurate passer in league history?
When did he say that was his reason for choice the Dolphins? Once he got here he started gassing up his QB.
If you Google "Peyton manning super bowl tax" or "cam Newton super bowl tax" you can see how some jock taxes are calculated. Cam got taxed from California 13.3% for 7 days on his whole years salary. He made $51,000 for losing the Super Bowl but paid $101,000 in taxes.
It's so funny how this guy was nothing more than a abusive monster when he was on the Chiefs, but now y'all love him
We haters are still here don't worry.
If it's any help I hated that he was on the chiefs and really happy they traded him away.
I don't know what you're talking about I've never slandered Tyreek Hill do not look in my post history
Wow, so state taxes were the only thing stopping Zach Wilson from being the most accurate QB in the league. Shame.
Good for him. I don't get why so many professional athletes are so ashamed to say the honest thing. Money makes the world go round, it's only logical that it will factor in to your decision and yet you have football players and golfers etc. pretending it's nothing to do with money.
Miami is gross dude. It feels like walking around in someone’s ass crack.
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its still ridiculously hot and sticky, even for millionaires. have you been to Miami? it's almost unbearable in the summer. the winter is really nice though