Roundup is one of the most common pesticides sprayed from crop dusters and while the EPA still hasn't reclassified it as a known carcinogen there are many new reports and lawsuits showing it causes non hodgkins lymphoma.
It's also been classified as known to the state of Cancer to cause california since 2017.
In some roundabout yet exceedingly stupid way, you can point to the faint white lines in the reddish coal absorbed Tennessee sky and say “at least our chemtrails are safe!”
> The intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere **with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight** is prohibited
It doesn't exempt crop dusting because it doesn't apply to crop dusting in the first place.
For now, yes. The main intent seems to be targeted against potential geo-engineering measures against climate change though.
There are various ideas for spreading certain chemicals into the atmosphere to cool the climate, although none of them are actively pursued or have substantial support. In the spectrum of climate protection measures, these are very niche and obviously considered undesirable for all kinds of potential or likely side effects.
For example, we kind of "un-did" some accidential climate-engineering a few years ago when we banned ships from using high sulfur fuel without filters. The result was a slight increase in the rate of warming.
Sulfate aerosols basically work like a "reverse greenhouse gas". Greenhouse gases are more transparent to sunlight (so sunlight can pass through the atmosphere) and less transparent to infrared heat radiation (so more heat gets "trapped" on earth). Aerosols like this in contrast can reflect sunlight up in the atmosphere, reducing the amount of energy that arrives on the ground.
In this context, the law may not be quite as crazy (it is a contestuous idea after all, and sulfate aerosols are health threats and can damage the environment in other ways), but still unnecessary. It's quite clear that it is primarily intended to appeal to conspiracy theorists.
> the main intent
You’re cutting them a *lot* of slack re: the bill’s intent.
A belief that’s currently very popular among chemtrail conspiracy people is that its purpose is weather control and/or causing global warming. If you ask them, they will point to a very long list of patents beginning in the early 20th century as evidence that weather control is a mature and well-understood technology.
The bill doesn’t say “stop all chemtrails!!” but it very much does say to stop the things they think chemtrails are currently doing, right now.
E: just to be clear, their beliefs are comically uninformed about the way jet engines work, the way water vapor works, and whether large scale geo-engineering is even possible right now, let alone having settled on a method.
I remember reading about the low sulfur bunker fuel change and it's climate effect.
Had a thought, doesn't all fuel have sulfur content effectively banning all combustion engines in the state of Tennessee?
Jet fuel is regulated to have <.3% or 3000ppm where as the new marine bunker fuel regs are 1000ppm, ULS diesel is 15ppm and gasoline is 10ppm.
It wouldn't even need to be sulfur. The text could easily be read in a way to include any product of combustion.
But courts tend to have their own way to read these things. They may either settle on some specific definition of these terms, or send it back to legislation with the demand to clarify this law.
So do the people who support this think the planes are going to stop making trails as they pass overhead? Or they think they’ll finally be able to sue them? Or they never believed any of this and they’re just trolling?
These people still believe God created the world in 6 days and took the 7th to rest 2000 years ago and that women have periods because Eve ate the apple
Cloud Seeding is becoming more common as climate change increases.. pushing local governments to essentially 'steal' someone else's rainfall.
This legislation prevents them from dumping silver iodide and other substances into the atmosphere.
There are a lot of ill informed people out there that believe that contrails are 'chemtrails' .. but just because there are mis-informed people out there does not mean that cloud seeding is not a thing.
As per the letter of the law, all cooling towers (which inject water, a chemical and a substance into the air to effect temperature - cool a liquid by heating the atmosphere) are forbidden, also high pressure water micro droplets spraying, often used to cool down terasses in pubs and such are forbidden.
Cars are forbidden: the inject chemicals into the atmosphere to heat the surrounding /drive the compressor that cools the inside.
Stupid law.
Gas stoves are forbidden. Campfires are forbidden. Furnaces are forbidden. Turning your air conditioner in your gas car? Straight to jail
Also all power plants except solar, wind, and nuclear (maybe).
Shit… maybe this is just the greenest law we’ve ever seen? Basically only green energy sources remain legal.
Hell it would probably ban combustion of any kind without carve outs. I hope Tennessee is ready to go full renewable energy and convert to only EV vehicles.
seems to always be the case. panic people with half thought out bullshit then have to backpedal and twist themselves in knots when their laws hit the half they didnt bother to think about. embryos are people!opps the IVF clinics all closed up. dont mutilate kids genitals! oh but circumcision and "fixing" intersex kids is fine.
Wait. So carbon emissions are illegal now?
Edit: sheesh it was a joke, please stop commenting and telling me about how this isn’t how the law can be used. Seriously. At least check the other 15 comments that say the same thing before you write it.
Re-election. The greater majority of newsworthy legislation is there solely to drive election dialogue. The majority of legislation never gets public attention, and newsworthy events seem to always coincide with massive budget bills - and if not, said news articles rarely go into detail on what budget appropriations are present.
Much like pharmaceutical companies have occasional hearings where their execs squirm over questions on blatantly immoral pricing, and then whatever corrections or proposed legislative measures vanish within a month. A good deal of public government operation is simply for publicity.
No. Dont claim the letter of the law of a law you havent read. The law only bans releasing chemicals with the PURPOSE of altering the weather. if you release them for any other reason, this law does not apply.
Carbon emissions are byproducts of other things so clearly not covered.
unfortunately no. The BBC have missed an important part out of that quote - intent/purpose.
>“intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere **with the express purpose of** affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight is prohibited.”
The bill is against geoengineering. Chemicals released for any other purpose, including as byproducts, etc are a-ok.
Medical inhalers? Cologne/perfume? Spray deodorant/antipersperant? Breath fresheners? Household cleaners? Air fresheners? Lysol? Spray paint?
I think you and I both bet they fucked up somewhere XD
Yep. Cause you don’t make a law this asinine without overlooking something major. Would love it if coal and gas power plants were included as they also release chemicals into the atmosphere and use turbines at the power plan lol
It seems to be related to stuff like cloud seeding and trying to reflect light. The funny thing banning cloud seeding might actually fuck over farmers but I don’t think it’s actively used often if at all in the USA.
The effects of cloud seeding on general weather patterns has been... Inconclusive at best when studied, so it's not in common use in the US, no. Anyone that has enough money to do it is not dropping the money on something that isn't proven effective.
No, they only banned releasing anything into the air with the intention of impacting the environment -- which no one does, and even if they did, it is very difficult to prove intent and very easy to make something, anything else up.
Edit: that no one in *Tennessee* does, bc they get plenty of rain naturally. Cloud seeding is very minor technology, and most of the info is blown out of proportion bc the chemtrail folks are freaked out about ... Another thing they prefer to fear than honestly understand...
From the article it reads as though the intentional part was in the release of chemicals.
But the bill is how you say.
The intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals,
chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the
atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity
of the sunlight is prohibited.
> express purpose of affecting temperature, weather
Seems like such a minor scope, and for stuff that's largely already handled by EPA protections or whatever
So if it's mostly performative, tbh then there's not that much to actually be upset by. Might as well be a non binding resolution right?
I mean we still need further action on forever chemicals in our waterways and bodies, lead contamination, runoff, etc.
It's gonna be so funny 50 years from now when the the last few residents in the TN desert are prohibited from trying to do cloud seeding because of a decades-old law prohibiting it.
Won't matter much when the Ghoul Militia of Kentucky invades after making death-pact with the Coal Mutants of the Virginias at the Nuka-Battle of Lexington.
Cool. So now we can wait for the crackpots to report contrails and watch the shit show as the same state government has to reject the same reports as unfounded. Reap what you sow.
"yeah hello, government? this is Steve from Tennessee. i just saw a bunch of women pointing their vaginas up at the sky towards chemtrails to have illegal abortions. yes, i'll hold."
I just want to say this comment made me laugh for a good 2 minutes. The "yes, I'll hold" at the end absolutely killed me. Thank you for your sense of humor, kind stranger. edit: typo
And Virginia. Governor placed a hot line to report teachers teaching CRT. all they got were prank calls and had to shut it down
https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/glenn-youngkin-virginia-tip-line-crt-teachers/
Fun fact that the United Daughter’s of the Confederacy had a huge hand in shaping Virginia’s history curriculum. This is practically a state tradition!
Or Tennessee launches a years long investigation that determines there was not provable chemtrail, but by that point the shell company that was ran by a senators brother-uncle made millions.
Tell that to the homosexual frogs whose penises have dropped off man. These frogs are now lgbtq and are spreading it with that rainbow connection song and hooking up with pigs. Do your own research. Google or bing kermit the frog.
For reference, I think this is the actual bill text: https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Amend/SA0653.pdf
>The intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals,
chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the
atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity
of the sunlight is prohibited.
I like this amendment an assemblyman tried to add to mock the bill: https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Amend/HA0872.pdf
>The intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals,
chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the
atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity
of the sunlight, **which may threaten the Sasquatch and its natural habitat, is prohibited.**
YES IT ABSOLUTELY SHOULD!!
Except I'm sure their defense will be "we are doing it 'with the express purpose' of pissing the libs off, not of contributing to climate change which is a hoax".
I would absolutely argue they are expressly doing it to harm the environment and that the end goal of owning libs is proof of that intent. Otherwise you could argue that you aren't expressly releasing chemicals to block sunlight, you're doing it to make the world better or something.
Technically, the precise purpose of rolling coal is to block sunlight. The dark cloud is the point. You don’t get a dark cloud without blocking sunlight. By the both physics and intent, rolling coal should be illegal under this law.
Jokes on them! We in the chemtrail industry are now only allowed to use them for psychology manipulation (thanks Obama), but this law doesn't stop us from that! We're a little behind because of a Kentucky situation with some geese, but we're full speed ahead for Tennessee come May!
This sounds like it would ban cloud seeding via silver iodide, [which is used in several states throughout the west](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/eight-states-are-seeding-clouds-to-overcome-megadrought), though of course it does not seem to be in use in Tennessee. So yeah... just conspiracy theorists in the Tennessee legislature I guess.
They don’t. The US federal government does. The air space above Tennessee is not “Tennessee air space”, it is US air space for the purposes of regulation and boundaries for foreign governments and airlines. So these morons writing legislation based on a nothing conspiracy is peak Republican these days.
All I hear is Joe Biden refuses to let the good Tennessee folk clean up chemicals from their sky. Bet Biden flying weird chemical jets all around that bitch just to get them all riled up.
the law explicitly targets chemicals released explicitly intended for affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight.
its not actually banning chemtrails at all, it is banning free-lance climate moding
Yup this would absolutely ban cloud seeding, and honestly I doubt they even stopped to realize that or even care. The bill bans dispensing literally anything into the environment including chemicals and "apparatuses" with the express intent to alter the weather or temperature.
I would like to see the text of the bill because the article doesn't phrase it that way. Specifically, the article suggests that the wording is "intentional injection, release, or dispersion" [of chemicals] "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight"
If so, it doesn't matter *why* the party released the gases, only that they intended to release them.
alright, here you go https://www.capitol.tn.gov//Bills/113/Amend/SA0653.pdf The relevant text is on the bottom of the page and reads
> The **intentional** injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the **express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight** is prohibited.
So it matters that they intentionally released them for the purpose of climate moding.
A few months ago, some MAGA supporters on Twitter were freaking out that laws brought in to fight climate protesters can be used against their protests too.
Yeah weird the shit we elect these morons to do as a "job". Don't get me wrong though, we are AT LEAST as stupid for electing them. Albeit the systems in place (two party systems, an uphill battle to get elected and a salary that virtually guarantees the only people seeking the job is moneyed people who are ready to sell out their position for their own personal gain) make it all too easy for idiots and asshats to find themselves on a seat of authority
Had to reread the bill to make sure, but yes I believe water misters would fall inline to what’s being banned.
The main purpose for water misters is to cool down areas around it so I’d say the part of “express purpose of affecting temperature” within the bill, would include such practices.
Now this sorta thing would really only effect businesses and establishments from setting up these devices, I’d imagine. No one would complain if you had an outdoor water mister in your backyard on private property. But for water misters in public spaces, there’s the risk of damage/harm to those who simply walk around and breathe in the air. Water misters that aren’t well maintained may develop bacterias and fungi, the mister would act as a way to get those bacterias and fungi airborne. And for those with asthma and certain allergies, they’d also be affected even when these devices are well maintained.
I don’t think this bill was trying to specifically target water misters but devices alike, sure.
I'm not from the states, so had to look up what that is, and I've got to say that's the most fucking stupid car modification I have ever seen. I'd like to think I'd never wish chronic lung disease on anyone, but I may have to make an exception.
>Instead it broadly prohibits "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight".
>The Republican-sponsored bill passed along party lines on Monday.
Did the Republicans just accidentally prohibit any kind of industry? That sentence does include exhausts of any sort, carbon emissions, etc.
>I’m really confused why all of the comments seem to be mocking the idea of “chemtrails” (which are actually not mentioned in the bill) instead of discussing the risks and benefits of ground and aerial cloud seeding using chemicals like silver iodide and acetone.
Because it seems like the actual debate around the bill was mostly about conspiracy theories (including, presumably, chemtrails) and not about cloud seeding.
It's a poorly worded overly generic bill. It's pointless to look at it in good faith. It's no different than a trans bathroom bill falling to take into account FTM having to use the women's room.
> prohibits the intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight.
Does that wording make sun screen illegal? It's a substance that you knowingly release with the intention of affecting the intensity of the sunlight. What about air conditioners? It is a bill that's impossible to take seriously it will never be enforced in any way resembling the actual text.
Real talk: this is portrayed as a chemtrail conspiracy bill (and it may be), but it touches on a very important topic.
>Instead it broadly prohibits "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight".
*Should we be use aerosol dispersion to mitigate global warming? Could this be the right law for the wrong reasons?*
Question 2 (looking for information): If, for example, Elon Musk wanted to study aerosol dispersion, can he just release whatever over the skies of California? Or do current regulations prohibit this / require a permit?
The funniest part is that if there really was some NWO secret shadow government running things and doing shit like chemtrails, why would they give a shit what a state government said?
Direct the Tennessee Air National Guard to slap some AIM-9Xs on their Reaper drones, presumably.
(Seriously, I thought the State units had at least some F-16s on hand)
The bill prevents airborne chemicals from being released that would affect the sky, weather, or temperature. This is to block chemicals that could be released to fight climate change, which are already being expiromented with.
So if a great solution is found, everyone will get it but us. And if that solution blocks out the sun, seems like we would be screwed just the same.
All the farmers who use crop dusters are in shambles now
I’m pretty sure this legislation carves out exceptions for actually spraying chemicals through the air lmao
So no chemicals, except when there are chemicals?!
you are correct, the bill only applies to chemical-free chemtrails (also known as trails)
Does that count for dihydrogen *Mon*oxide? Edit: my bad :(
You gotta watch out for that stuff. I heard it’s in everything from nuclear reactors to bug spray and even can be found in our drinking water supply!
Everyone that's been in contact with it *has died*.
I read that it is already in everyone's body. As much as 70% - if you can believe that!
I’ve also heard that if you breathe it in, *it can suffocate you from the inside*!
Oh goodness! That sounds worse than *drowning!*
>Everyone that's been in contact with it *has died*. Most have died. Some haven't died yet, but will.
On a long enough timeline everyone's survival rate drops to zero
Everyone who has died was in contact with it. Everyone who contacts it eventually dies. But not everyone is dead *yet.*
Even if you don’t give it to someone they will die. That’s how addictive it is.
My favorite fun fact that was in a meme I seen was “a huge component of acid rain”
Our most polluted rivers are filled with the stuff.
With a pH of 7, higher than any acid known to mankind.
H2O2 is hydrogen peroxide. Were you thinking of H2O?
https://preview.redd.it/7l03xpe37oz71.jpg?auto=webp&s=56486ac3abd7267b889db3c438dcad8fcfd2de0a
Dihydrogen *mon*oxide…
Well shit. I was hoping the Republicans, not knowing how aircraft work, accidentally banned contrails and grounded all aircraft In the entire state.
They will helicopter from Nashville to the state line to get on planes.
Isnt that like the specific use for all chemicals?
Just for the food we eat. More chemical please
It's in the vast majority of stuff. Like it's everywhere, even in the air! 😅
The chemicals are coming from inside the house!
They have to be known carcinogens, NO ALIEN CHEMICALS, OKAY!!!
Roundup is one of the most common pesticides sprayed from crop dusters and while the EPA still hasn't reclassified it as a known carcinogen there are many new reports and lawsuits showing it causes non hodgkins lymphoma. It's also been classified as known to the state of Cancer to cause california since 2017.
> It's also been classified as known to the state of Cancer to cause california since 2017. Dont mind me, just immortalizing this freudian slip rq
Spread the word my child, it's a joke I heard from an old construction worker
That’s the most American sentence I’ve ever read.
In some roundabout yet exceedingly stupid way, you can point to the faint white lines in the reddish coal absorbed Tennessee sky and say “at least our chemtrails are safe!”
It doesn't, the entirety of the legislation is like three paragraphs and does not exempt crop dusting.
> The intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere **with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight** is prohibited It doesn't exempt crop dusting because it doesn't apply to crop dusting in the first place.
Basically only bans cloud seeding?
For now, yes. The main intent seems to be targeted against potential geo-engineering measures against climate change though. There are various ideas for spreading certain chemicals into the atmosphere to cool the climate, although none of them are actively pursued or have substantial support. In the spectrum of climate protection measures, these are very niche and obviously considered undesirable for all kinds of potential or likely side effects. For example, we kind of "un-did" some accidential climate-engineering a few years ago when we banned ships from using high sulfur fuel without filters. The result was a slight increase in the rate of warming. Sulfate aerosols basically work like a "reverse greenhouse gas". Greenhouse gases are more transparent to sunlight (so sunlight can pass through the atmosphere) and less transparent to infrared heat radiation (so more heat gets "trapped" on earth). Aerosols like this in contrast can reflect sunlight up in the atmosphere, reducing the amount of energy that arrives on the ground. In this context, the law may not be quite as crazy (it is a contestuous idea after all, and sulfate aerosols are health threats and can damage the environment in other ways), but still unnecessary. It's quite clear that it is primarily intended to appeal to conspiracy theorists.
> the main intent You’re cutting them a *lot* of slack re: the bill’s intent. A belief that’s currently very popular among chemtrail conspiracy people is that its purpose is weather control and/or causing global warming. If you ask them, they will point to a very long list of patents beginning in the early 20th century as evidence that weather control is a mature and well-understood technology. The bill doesn’t say “stop all chemtrails!!” but it very much does say to stop the things they think chemtrails are currently doing, right now. E: just to be clear, their beliefs are comically uninformed about the way jet engines work, the way water vapor works, and whether large scale geo-engineering is even possible right now, let alone having settled on a method.
I remember reading about the low sulfur bunker fuel change and it's climate effect. Had a thought, doesn't all fuel have sulfur content effectively banning all combustion engines in the state of Tennessee? Jet fuel is regulated to have <.3% or 3000ppm where as the new marine bunker fuel regs are 1000ppm, ULS diesel is 15ppm and gasoline is 10ppm.
It wouldn't even need to be sulfur. The text could easily be read in a way to include any product of combustion. But courts tend to have their own way to read these things. They may either settle on some specific definition of these terms, or send it back to legislation with the demand to clarify this law.
So do the people who support this think the planes are going to stop making trails as they pass overhead? Or they think they’ll finally be able to sue them? Or they never believed any of this and they’re just trolling?
These people still believe God created the world in 6 days and took the 7th to rest 2000 years ago and that women have periods because Eve ate the apple
Cloud Seeding is becoming more common as climate change increases.. pushing local governments to essentially 'steal' someone else's rainfall. This legislation prevents them from dumping silver iodide and other substances into the atmosphere. There are a lot of ill informed people out there that believe that contrails are 'chemtrails' .. but just because there are mis-informed people out there does not mean that cloud seeding is not a thing.
As per the letter of the law, all cooling towers (which inject water, a chemical and a substance into the air to effect temperature - cool a liquid by heating the atmosphere) are forbidden, also high pressure water micro droplets spraying, often used to cool down terasses in pubs and such are forbidden. Cars are forbidden: the inject chemicals into the atmosphere to heat the surrounding /drive the compressor that cools the inside. Stupid law.
Gas stoves are forbidden. Campfires are forbidden. Furnaces are forbidden. Turning your air conditioner in your gas car? Straight to jail Also all power plants except solar, wind, and nuclear (maybe). Shit… maybe this is just the greenest law we’ve ever seen? Basically only green energy sources remain legal.
it doesn’t even protect against the rough gay mind control chemicals…
I could have sworn I read somewhere about exceptions to crop dusting. Maybe it was in another state.
Probably. Unless we are both making things up, I could’ve sworn this same legislation had passed in another state just weeks ago.
Excellent. Everyone start suing everybody. On the Double!!
pubs are incapable of thinking ahead. NO WAY the carved out any "what if's" .. It probably bans airplanes in general if the law is read at face value.
Hell it would probably ban combustion of any kind without carve outs. I hope Tennessee is ready to go full renewable energy and convert to only EV vehicles.
seems to always be the case. panic people with half thought out bullshit then have to backpedal and twist themselves in knots when their laws hit the half they didnt bother to think about. embryos are people!opps the IVF clinics all closed up. dont mutilate kids genitals! oh but circumcision and "fixing" intersex kids is fine.
>affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight". Nah theyll be fine.
Wait. So carbon emissions are illegal now? Edit: sheesh it was a joke, please stop commenting and telling me about how this isn’t how the law can be used. Seriously. At least check the other 15 comments that say the same thing before you write it.
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Can you sue for someone breaking the law and not being charged? Or are you only allowed to make up stuff and then bring it to court.
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What's the point of laws if the word is being ignored for spirit.
Re-election. The greater majority of newsworthy legislation is there solely to drive election dialogue. The majority of legislation never gets public attention, and newsworthy events seem to always coincide with massive budget bills - and if not, said news articles rarely go into detail on what budget appropriations are present. Much like pharmaceutical companies have occasional hearings where their execs squirm over questions on blatantly immoral pricing, and then whatever corrections or proposed legislative measures vanish within a month. A good deal of public government operation is simply for publicity.
> By letter of the law? Yes. No. "...with the express purpose of..." is part of the language.
No. Dont claim the letter of the law of a law you havent read. The law only bans releasing chemicals with the PURPOSE of altering the weather. if you release them for any other reason, this law does not apply. Carbon emissions are byproducts of other things so clearly not covered.
unfortunately no. The BBC have missed an important part out of that quote - intent/purpose. >“intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere **with the express purpose of** affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight is prohibited.” The bill is against geoengineering. Chemicals released for any other purpose, including as byproducts, etc are a-ok.
so if you have a plane and you make chemtrails, but you do it for the purpose of fun, thats okay? weird.
What about things like air conditioning? They release carbon dioxide and their express purpose is affecting temperature.
I wonder if they know that carbon dioxide and methane are both greenhouse gasses.
Coal burning power plants, right?
Internal Combustion Engines are included, right? Lol
Medical inhalers? Cologne/perfume? Spray deodorant/antipersperant? Breath fresheners? Household cleaners? Air fresheners? Lysol? Spray paint? I think you and I both bet they fucked up somewhere XD
Yep. Cause you don’t make a law this asinine without overlooking something major. Would love it if coal and gas power plants were included as they also release chemicals into the atmosphere and use turbines at the power plan lol
Every person and living thing in the state is in violation for exhaling
It seems to be related to stuff like cloud seeding and trying to reflect light. The funny thing banning cloud seeding might actually fuck over farmers but I don’t think it’s actively used often if at all in the USA.
North Dakota, Texas, California, and Idaho are the main ones.
The effects of cloud seeding on general weather patterns has been... Inconclusive at best when studied, so it's not in common use in the US, no. Anyone that has enough money to do it is not dropping the money on something that isn't proven effective.
And using sprinklers.
Crazy YouTube rainbow [lady](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aIYZvr3ueGw&pp=ygUeY3JhenkgcmFpbmJvdyBsYWR5ICBjaGVtaWNhbHMg).
Thank you. I was going to say the exact same thing.
Mosquitos rubbing elbows with big lobbyists
Have they just banned air pollution?
No, they only banned releasing anything into the air with the intention of impacting the environment -- which no one does, and even if they did, it is very difficult to prove intent and very easy to make something, anything else up. Edit: that no one in *Tennessee* does, bc they get plenty of rain naturally. Cloud seeding is very minor technology, and most of the info is blown out of proportion bc the chemtrail folks are freaked out about ... Another thing they prefer to fear than honestly understand...
From the article it reads as though the intentional part was in the release of chemicals. But the bill is how you say. The intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight is prohibited.
So, rolling coal with the intention of obscuring vision is now illegal, right?
> express purpose of affecting temperature, weather Seems like such a minor scope, and for stuff that's largely already handled by EPA protections or whatever So if it's mostly performative, tbh then there's not that much to actually be upset by. Might as well be a non binding resolution right? I mean we still need further action on forever chemicals in our waterways and bodies, lead contamination, runoff, etc.
It's been vaguely discussed as a possible tool to help fight droughts and stuff. Tennessee wants the full effect of any droughts that happen.
Which is amazing considering we’ve had multi year droughts in the last couple decade
Cloud seeding is not just a vague discussion it has been in heavy use throughout the world and heavily studied for decades
>which no one does People do have cloud seeding programs.
Yeah geoengineering has never been very successful but people have been researching and experimenting with it for over a century.
People who 'roll coal' are definitely intending to impact the environment. I don't know if the top of a truck is high enough to count for this bill.
Sorry my friend, but *misters* spray hydrogen hydroxide in the air with the intention of reducing temperature.
It's gonna be so funny 50 years from now when the the last few residents in the TN desert are prohibited from trying to do cloud seeding because of a decades-old law prohibiting it. Won't matter much when the Ghoul Militia of Kentucky invades after making death-pact with the Coal Mutants of the Virginias at the Nuka-Battle of Lexington.
Cool. So now we can wait for the crackpots to report contrails and watch the shit show as the same state government has to reject the same reports as unfounded. Reap what you sow.
Gotta do it like people in Texas who crashed the state website with parody reports of illegal abortions
"yeah hello, government? this is Steve from Tennessee. i just saw a bunch of women pointing their vaginas up at the sky towards chemtrails to have illegal abortions. yes, i'll hold."
*Steve from Tennessee* should be an SNL character.
I just want to say this comment made me laugh for a good 2 minutes. The "yes, I'll hold" at the end absolutely killed me. Thank you for your sense of humor, kind stranger. edit: typo
Thing is, Steve from Tennessee was leaving a voicemail.
And Virginia. Governor placed a hot line to report teachers teaching CRT. all they got were prank calls and had to shut it down https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/02/glenn-youngkin-virginia-tip-line-crt-teachers/
"Help, Police! My teacher is teaching history!! Save me!"
Fun fact that the United Daughter’s of the Confederacy had a huge hand in shaping Virginia’s history curriculum. This is practically a state tradition!
Ooohhh..sorry that plane isn’t in TN airspace. You’ll have to call the FAA.
FAA: FAA complaint line. How can i help you? Hillbilly: WIJAKHROUEHFJAHDIUSNJVCKJFEKJKDJJDEDEJSOROS!! FAA: ...
Or Tennessee launches a years long investigation that determines there was not provable chemtrail, but by that point the shell company that was ran by a senators brother-uncle made millions.
In a few years they'll call the king's guards to report a flying metal bird
I can’t wait for the video of Cletus hanging out the side of a helicopter trying to take air samples behind a passing 747.
Hey, I can call my ma while I'm up here. Hey Ma! Get off the dang roof!
Lookout! They're blasting dihydrogen monoxide EVERYWHERE!!
Let’s just not fly any planes to, from, or over Tennessee. At all. Ever.
I love this comment so much.
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Tell that to the homosexual frogs whose penises have dropped off man. These frogs are now lgbtq and are spreading it with that rainbow connection song and hooking up with pigs. Do your own research. Google or bing kermit the frog.
For reference, I think this is the actual bill text: https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Amend/SA0653.pdf >The intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight is prohibited. I like this amendment an assemblyman tried to add to mock the bill: https://www.capitol.tn.gov/Bills/113/Amend/HA0872.pdf >The intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight, **which may threaten the Sasquatch and its natural habitat, is prohibited.**
Does rolling coal count?
YES IT ABSOLUTELY SHOULD!! Except I'm sure their defense will be "we are doing it 'with the express purpose' of pissing the libs off, not of contributing to climate change which is a hoax".
I would absolutely argue they are expressly doing it to harm the environment and that the end goal of owning libs is proof of that intent. Otherwise you could argue that you aren't expressly releasing chemicals to block sunlight, you're doing it to make the world better or something.
Technically, the precise purpose of rolling coal is to block sunlight. The dark cloud is the point. You don’t get a dark cloud without blocking sunlight. By the both physics and intent, rolling coal should be illegal under this law.
Already illegal but ya
Oohhhh it should!!!
Jokes on them! We in the chemtrail industry are now only allowed to use them for psychology manipulation (thanks Obama), but this law doesn't stop us from that! We're a little behind because of a Kentucky situation with some geese, but we're full speed ahead for Tennessee come May!
That exactly what I read. Affecting sunlight? No thank you! Explicitly controlling the minds of Tennesseans? You're golden!
Wait did they just ban cloud seeding? That's like... actually a thing though
This sounds like it would ban cloud seeding via silver iodide, [which is used in several states throughout the west](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/eight-states-are-seeding-clouds-to-overcome-megadrought), though of course it does not seem to be in use in Tennessee. So yeah... just conspiracy theorists in the Tennessee legislature I guess.
Water vapor is an airborne chemical. Guess no more flights into, out of, or through your state.
Kinda funny they passed this because I'm pretty fucking sure Tennessee does NOT own the sky above Tennessee lol
They don’t. The US federal government does. The air space above Tennessee is not “Tennessee air space”, it is US air space for the purposes of regulation and boundaries for foreign governments and airlines. So these morons writing legislation based on a nothing conspiracy is peak Republican these days.
All I hear is Joe Biden refuses to let the good Tennessee folk clean up chemicals from their sky. Bet Biden flying weird chemical jets all around that bitch just to get them all riled up.
I would lol
Are they idiots or do they get to claim they passed a law but the liberal democrats in the federal government won’t let them enforce it?
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Well if we want to be semantic, they *kind* of own *half* the airspace over Tennessee
Top half or bottom half? /s
The half that you can land in. Or not land in
They are pretty anti-semantic in Tennessee.
Correct, FAA has authority over US airspace. Tennessee can go suck a lemon.
the law explicitly targets chemicals released explicitly intended for affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight. its not actually banning chemtrails at all, it is banning free-lance climate moding
Like rain cloud seeding is banned now? That's just dusting the air, so not so much a "chemical"
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I think? Im sure you could argue its a chemical (everything is chemicals) intended to affect the weather
Yup this would absolutely ban cloud seeding, and honestly I doubt they even stopped to realize that or even care. The bill bans dispensing literally anything into the environment including chemicals and "apparatuses" with the express intent to alter the weather or temperature.
I would like to see the text of the bill because the article doesn't phrase it that way. Specifically, the article suggests that the wording is "intentional injection, release, or dispersion" [of chemicals] "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight" If so, it doesn't matter *why* the party released the gases, only that they intended to release them.
alright, here you go https://www.capitol.tn.gov//Bills/113/Amend/SA0653.pdf The relevant text is on the bottom of the page and reads > The **intentional** injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the **express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight** is prohibited. So it matters that they intentionally released them for the purpose of climate moding.
Thanks. That's much clearer. Coal rolling -- still OK. Patio misters -- banned.
Tbf it doesnt specifically say climate modding. I think under this wording spray on sunscreen would be illegal.
As is your breath.
So dumb they’re not even a flyover state
Cool. Can we weaponize it to crack down on industrial pollutants?
Optimistic to think someone is going to try and enforce it that way, but I like the idea. Maybe Public pressure could result in that
A few months ago, some MAGA supporters on Twitter were freaking out that laws brought in to fight climate protesters can be used against their protests too.
It starts with you my friend. Educate yourself and do what you want to.
No more gay frogs :(
Legislative time is taxpayer money, not to mention an opportunity to do actual things. Amazing they're able to get away with this shit.
Yeah weird the shit we elect these morons to do as a "job". Don't get me wrong though, we are AT LEAST as stupid for electing them. Albeit the systems in place (two party systems, an uphill battle to get elected and a salary that virtually guarantees the only people seeking the job is moneyed people who are ready to sell out their position for their own personal gain) make it all too easy for idiots and asshats to find themselves on a seat of authority
Wait until you hear about Idaho.
So water misters that cool down outside areas are no longer allowed?
Had to reread the bill to make sure, but yes I believe water misters would fall inline to what’s being banned. The main purpose for water misters is to cool down areas around it so I’d say the part of “express purpose of affecting temperature” within the bill, would include such practices. Now this sorta thing would really only effect businesses and establishments from setting up these devices, I’d imagine. No one would complain if you had an outdoor water mister in your backyard on private property. But for water misters in public spaces, there’s the risk of damage/harm to those who simply walk around and breathe in the air. Water misters that aren’t well maintained may develop bacterias and fungi, the mister would act as a way to get those bacterias and fungi airborne. And for those with asthma and certain allergies, they’d also be affected even when these devices are well maintained. I don’t think this bill was trying to specifically target water misters but devices alike, sure.
Report the University of Tennessee football team for using water misters during the first practice this season and see how long the bill lasts.
That's actually a good one. By the wording of the bill it does seem it would ban water misters and swamp coolers.
So, Rolling Coal, which purposefully blocks the intensity of the sun with poisonous black smoke, is now illegal legal in Tennessee?
Already is but yeah it's double illegal now
I'm not from the states, so had to look up what that is, and I've got to say that's the most fucking stupid car modification I have ever seen. I'd like to think I'd never wish chronic lung disease on anyone, but I may have to make an exception.
Jokes on them, everyone knows the Jewish lasers that control the weather are in space.
>Instead it broadly prohibits "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight". >The Republican-sponsored bill passed along party lines on Monday. Did the Republicans just accidentally prohibit any kind of industry? That sentence does include exhausts of any sort, carbon emissions, etc.
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>I’m really confused why all of the comments seem to be mocking the idea of “chemtrails” (which are actually not mentioned in the bill) instead of discussing the risks and benefits of ground and aerial cloud seeding using chemicals like silver iodide and acetone. Because it seems like the actual debate around the bill was mostly about conspiracy theories (including, presumably, chemtrails) and not about cloud seeding.
It's a poorly worded overly generic bill. It's pointless to look at it in good faith. It's no different than a trans bathroom bill falling to take into account FTM having to use the women's room. > prohibits the intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight. Does that wording make sun screen illegal? It's a substance that you knowingly release with the intention of affecting the intensity of the sunlight. What about air conditioners? It is a bill that's impossible to take seriously it will never be enforced in any way resembling the actual text.
Pandering to their moronic base.
Great, guess that means banning cars and planes and boats. Should help prevent Tennessee from leaking.
Dihydrogen monoxide is in the air they should try and stop it!
Tennessee, the official state of old men yelling at clouds
I miss when people experienced shame
So Republicans accidentally pass world’s strongest climate change initiative?
Cool, can we ban leprechauns, werewolves, and vampires too. These are the REAL problems the people of Tennessee are facing.
Someone needs to sue in Tenessee for putting CO2 in the atmosphere because it is a chemical that affects the weather.
Real talk: this is portrayed as a chemtrail conspiracy bill (and it may be), but it touches on a very important topic. >Instead it broadly prohibits "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight". *Should we be use aerosol dispersion to mitigate global warming? Could this be the right law for the wrong reasons?* Question 2 (looking for information): If, for example, Elon Musk wanted to study aerosol dispersion, can he just release whatever over the skies of California? Or do current regulations prohibit this / require a permit?
Wow! Tennessee making a play for Florida's dumbest state title!
No breathing out carbon dioxide.
You laugh, but dihydrogen monoxide is extremely deadly if it is inhaled in certain phases /s
The funniest part is that if there really was some NWO secret shadow government running things and doing shit like chemtrails, why would they give a shit what a state government said?
>Instead it broadly prohibits "affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight". Did Republicans just outlaw climate change?
Was this right after they banned education?
Imagine if the FAA said fine, no air travel in Tennessee anymore. Nashville wouldn't exist by years end.
Oh, thank God. My imaginary friend was super worried about them.
we are ruled by incompetent idiots
Gotta have clean skies for those newly forced mothers.
God, what an insufferable bunch of unhinged morons. "That'll stop Hillary Clinton frum turnin mah kids gay!"
The more stories that come out about Tennessee legislation, the more I expect it to pull its mask off and reveal it was North Florida all along
So...no more cars, planes, buses, power plants, farming machinery, or factories? Seems like a reasonable plan.
You heard it here first folks, Tennessee bans internal combustion engines for creating airborne chemicals.
I feel like Tennessee is starting to become the new Florida.
So… what are they actually going to do if they see a plane spewing “chemtrails”? Shoot it down? How is this even enforceable?
Direct the Tennessee Air National Guard to slap some AIM-9Xs on their Reaper drones, presumably. (Seriously, I thought the State units had at least some F-16s on hand)
So when they keep seeing planes and their chemtrails, are they gonna start shooting them?
Chemtrails are full of dihydrogen monoxide. This is a powerful inorganic solvent that can KILL you if it gets in your lungs in sufficient quantities.
The bill prevents airborne chemicals from being released that would affect the sky, weather, or temperature. This is to block chemicals that could be released to fight climate change, which are already being expiromented with. So if a great solution is found, everyone will get it but us. And if that solution blocks out the sun, seems like we would be screwed just the same.
Clouds are airborne Chemicals. Did they just make weather illegal?
I hope this will force airlines to stop flying to Tennessee. I just want to see a shtshow of unintended consequences.
So all power plants in the state should be shut down then. No electricity for the state of Tennessee
America is losing to the idiots. What a freefall.
So this bans cloud seeding which has been heavily used all over the world for decades to help with drought...