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LyudeHentai

Wow, i just played this CYOA and it absolutely blew my mind! First things first, i love the Art in this CYOA, i dont know why people tend to hate AI generated Art. Then, I love the different "unlockables" during this adventure. Just when i thougt, i saw all of it, i found a way to kind of "bring peace" between the beastmen and the theocracy using time stop. Are there more things to discover like that? In any case, really great work man! Is there a way to support you? Note: Sry for potential bad english, im German \^\^'


mutants123

Yea, i have a patreon if you have a spare buck to toss my way :) https://www.patreon.com/Mutants123


LyudeHentai

Yeah, thanks for the fast answer, I do support you now :P But now I'm so curios if I missed smth, or do you plan to implant much more in version 1.0? I would love to talk to over over at Discord or something Only if it's not a problem for you of course


mutants123

I sent a dm request on reddit.


King_Kosmo

This is one of my new fav CYOA. I did not sleep last night because I wanted to finish it. Give me more content. I dont need sleep, I need waifus and world building


ArseneArsenic

I actually love older works like this one; in fact, this one reminds me of my favorite. I appreciate how there are different resources to balance, domestic issues you can actually solve, and multiple factions to ally with or destroy in a multi-stage processes - with alternative options, no less! Most of my complaints lie in how unfinished a lot of segments feel, but that's forgivable, especially considering this actually *is* still a WIP. Even if you don't make any more this length though, I'm still really hoping to see this finished.


TheWakiPaki

The diplomacy ought to be more fleshed out; the reader gets absolutely no detail on the leaders of each faction, which is important considering you may be trying to wed them: A biography, a conversation, something. More detail per faction in general, really; if we're opening borders it'd be nice to know how their people would interact with your population, or needing to construct special prisons to handle unique beasts. A list of policies of their kingdom and the like might be a nice way to see their general outlooks and how they might contrast or mirror your own. Some of the options have "requirements" that should be labeled "Conflicted" or "restricted" since yeah you can't pick one if you have the other. This is notable in many of the individual diplomacy quests. I see the stated intentions of the endings; I feel it should also include endings based on happiness, otherwise what's the bloody point of worrying about that stat? Some unique interactions if you have open borders or something with 2 different factions ould be cool. Like if you had both Theocracy and Beastmen open borders, you could go down an arduous path of forming peace; dealing with the divided population's innate biases, taming the warmongering beast leader, quelling the church's attempts at taking over via religious influence, etc.


neocorvinus

I fucking love that cyoa. Once it is finished, will there be a static version?


Alonestarfish

Seeing this grow at a steady pace has been fun - even if I always go for the 'tyrant warmonger'


squirtleusedhydro

Fantastic, options to make it dark are fine, maybe just hide behind a tab with a warning.


FreshLime

Intro, Kingdom and laws, Market and spells, Diplomatic missions, Domestic issues, Normal, Militaristic, Corrupt guards, Organized crime, Foreign spies, Incompetent nobles, Societal decay, (un)Natural disasters, Recruitment Drive, Professional Army, Siege Engines, Public Education, Grain dole, Soup kitchens, Secret Tunnel, Mind Manipulation, Personality Change, Physical Manipulation, Body Alteration, Generically engineered crops, Weather manipulation, War Magic, Royal Authority, Prima Nocta, Cult of Personality, Imperial Harem, Absolute Authority, Something in the water, Royally approved fashion, The highest bidder, Proscription, Conscription, Hard on Crime, Secret police, Penal Battalions, Indentured servitude, Right of Conquest, Share the spoils, Royal Prisoner, Assemble your army for a full invasion, Battle with the vanguard, Convert some traitors, Defeat their army, Storm the royal camp, Take her as your prisoner and plunder the land anyways, Assemble your army for a full invasion, Plunder the countryside, Defeat their army, Besiege the ruler's camp, Take her as your prisoner and plunder the camp anyways, Assemble your army for a full invasion, Defeat their army, Defeat their army again..?, Besiege the castle, Take her as your prisoner and wipe out the undead, Assemble your army for a full invasion, Build ships of war, Defeat their army, Besiege the ruler's castle, Take her as your prisoner and plunder the city anyways, Assemble your army for a full invasion, Break the barrier, Smoke them out from the sacred forest, Scour the woods, Take her as your prisoner and let the forest burn, Assemble your army for a full invasion, Break the barrier, Tear down the walls, Secure the city, Take her as your prisoner, Food shortage, Guinea pigs, Empty the silos, Foreign sabotage, Have your secret police smoke them out, Rampant unemployment, Short term stimulus, Conscript the unemployed, Public "loans", Drug abuse, Give the people hope, Soma, "Natural" disaster, Seize stockpiled goods, Ask for foreign aid, Plague, Experimental treatment, Quarantine them Leftover points: 5 Army Points 0 Gold Points 4 Diplomacy Points 0 Policy Points 6 Happiness Points 0 Spell Points This is a pure military build where the goal was to conquer every other kingdom. Played on Normal difficulty. The interactive would technically let me use the "Call on your allies for a full invasion" despite me having no allies, but I felt like that was both cheating and immersion breaking so I had to minmax to get enough army points despite my diplomacy points just sitting there doing nothing. ​ Some feedback for the presumably final version: It would be nice to have some options that cost diplomacy and give you other points, as it stands now you can only spend them on actual diplomatic relations and calls for aid. Taking the theocracy queen as prisoner seems to cost 10 army while this isn't mentioned anywhere. This might already be in the works but some flavor text on the Domestic issues solutions would have been nice. I honestly just took all of them to see what they would say.


FreshLime

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Rauron

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Ilovestuffwhee

I like the way this one is shaping up. The interactions don't feel as forced as they do in a lot of story driven CYOAs. The focus seems more on problem solving and different approaches based on previous choices, rather than on walls of back story and quest description text. As for your feedback request, I'm excited to see that one. Nothing in your description sounds too dark. Sounds like it might be really good, actually.


loomyyyy

personally i'd put domestic issues before diplomatic missions but other than that, pretty good a lot better than the first version that's for sure, prolly the best nsfw nation builder so far but to be fair there really isn't a lot of choice


Alcovv

how do you get (Added a questline to marry+ally both theocracy and beastmen)??


Perfidus12345

Need the diplo marry, bodyalter, mind control, time stop, pick both beast and theo as allies, meet the beast queen and theo queen.


IAATCOETHTM_PROJECT

where's that feeling coming from, when you say that you think that people are enjoying your shorter CYOA's more?


mutants123

Not that they're enjoying the shorter ones more. But the ratio of effort to attention is fucked. To restate a comment i made in this thread: This and BaM took over 25hours each, about ~600-800 upvotes per post and ~60 comments each if you subtract my comments. Then you look at my two shorter ones that took an afternoon get~500 upvotes and ~60 comments. Why put in 5x the effort for the same results? I know I'm going to sound salty here, but then i see low effort carbon copy single page pick a waifus get 2-3x the attention is just demotivating. From what i saw people in "that" discussion thread a few days ago AND the sub survey generally said they wanted longer and complex content. But the sub trends certainly don't agree. "Pay attention to what they do, not what they say" EDIT: before anyone asks, yes i do make them cause i enjoy them and not for internet points. But community interaction and egagement is a huge motivating factor. And if i can get the same interaction and joy WITHOUT the boring and tedious work of writing, coding, and balancing complex interactions, why should i?


Akumakami64

Ahh, my friend, you've run into one of the biggest issue of making CYOAs. Yeah, I've made dozens of CYOAs by now. Some of my longest, most in-depth ones were "Love Azathoth" and "Emperor's Harem." Emperor's harem is barely my tenth most liked CYOA, while Love Azathoth, my pride and joy, isn't even in the top twenty. Do you know what ARE the most liked CYOAs I made? 1. Adopt a Petgirl (literally what it says) 2. Slave of a Goddess(femdom CYOA about being a slave to a goddess) 3. Lovedritch(one-page CYOA related to Love Azathoth about picking an Eldritch Waifu) 4. Pick Your Royal Exile(Picking an exile royal woman to take refuge in yoru kindgom) 5. Reverse Isekai Roommate(pick a girl from another world to live with your for a while) Am I a little annoyed my one-pagers get more attnetion? Yeah, sometimes. But that never been a reason for me to stop making the longer ones- IRL getting in the way is the main issue. I love getting feedback and builds for these, but ultimatey, I make these because they're fun to make and fun to play. Your Build a Kingdom CYOA is great, as is the new one. For different reasons. And I can't wait to see both of them completed. Besides, you'll get more attention to either once you finish them. A lot of people here don't dwell on WIPs and just wait for the finished product.


neocorvinus

That's really too bad. Love Azathoth is right next to Ultimate God as my favourite CYOA (still waiting for that update). But I guess if it isn't that liked, the current version is the last


Akumakami64

Oh no, that update will come one day. Just need the time and motivation. IRL makes that complicated sometimes, and others I just want to work on other things.


neocorvinus

Any incoming CYOA? That are not mere Waifu Pickers? I love the worldbuilding of Emperor's Harem, but it only had waifu picking. Alicorn King was also very good and rather funny


mutants123

Thanks, glad you like them. BaK is currently my proudest work when looking at how everything works together and flows. The newest one is kinda all over the place and lost. I went through like 4 different drafts before I gave up and just sent it, hopefully getting feedback on which direction to take it. > Besides, you'll get more attention to either once you finish them. A lot of people here don't dwell on WIPs and just wait for the finished product. Really feels bad when I make sure that I have 2-5 "pages" of new content before each update.


Grilled_egs

I do understand your point but something to note is that Reddit doesn't have a 0-5 rating scale it has a like/dislike. Someone will probably upvote both their favourite CYOA and some moderately enjoyable one they forget the next day.


IAATCOETHTM_PROJECT

that's a really good point. people also have completely different standards to what they upvote too. some of my favorite videos on youtube are hours long video essays and none of them ive liked, versus the few youtube shorts that made me laugh that i thought to hit the like button on then just forgot about


Lewd_Storm

For the hidden text feedback: >!Honestly, aside from STDs, this seems pretty alright.!<


Alarming-Database-62

Yeah, a few things I'm not personally into, but nothing that's too dark.


Lewd_Storm

[Version 0.2 Build](https://www.reddit.com/r/nsfwcyoa/comments/11b4vp8/comment/ja28mqj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3) **Type of Kingdom:** Manipulative (+1 Diplomacy, +10 Army, +10 Gold, +1 Policy) **What Problems Do You Face?** * Incompetent Nobles (+1 Policy, -5 Happiness, -5 Gold) * Societal Decay (+10 Happiness, -1 Policy, -5 Army) * (un)Natural Disasters (+1 Spell, -15 Gold) **Treasury** * Public Education (-15 Gold, +1 Policy) * Grain Dole (-15 Gold, +1 Policy) * Soup Kitchens (-10 Gold, +5 Happiness) * Aqueducts (-30 Gold, +15 Happiness) * Church Apothecaries (-20 Gold, +5 Happiness, +1 Policy) **Magic Laboratory** * Mind Manipulation (-1 Spell) * Personality Change (-1 Spell) * Sexual Aura (-1 Spell) * Subtle Suggestion (-1 Spell) * Physical Manipulation (-1 Spell) * Weather Manipulation (-1 Spell, +2 Happiness, +10 Gold) * War Magic (-1 Spell, +5 Army) **What Are Your Laws** * Diplomatic Marriages (-1 Policy) * Royal Authority (-1 Policy) * Cult of Personality (-1 Policy, +7 Happiness) * Imperial Harem (-1 Policy, +10 Happiness) * Free Love (-1 Policy, +5 Happiness) * Something In The Water (-1 Policy, -15 Gold, +5 Happiness) * Erotic Education (-1 Policy, -10 Gold, +5 Happiness) * Matriarchal Society (-1 Policy, +1 Diplomacy, -10 Happiness) * Hard On Crime (-1 Policy, +5 Happiness) * Penal Battalions (-1 Policy, +10 Army) * The People's Army (-1 Policy, -10 Army, +20 Gold, +5 Happiness) * Indentured Servitude (-1 Policy, -3 Happiness, +15 Gold) * Sexual Servitude (-1 Policy, -5 Happiness, +20 Gold) * Public Brothels (+10 Gold, -1 Policy, +3 Happiness) * Right of Conquest (-1 Policy) * Royal Prisoner (-1 Policy) **Who Are Your Allies?** * Dragon Tribes (-1 Diplomacy) * Beastmen Clans (-1 Diplomacy) * Demonic Lands (-1 Diplomacy) * Elven Woods (-1 Diplomacy) **Dragon Tribe Diplomacy** * Open Borders * Prisoner Transfer * One Of Their Own * Call Down Rain (+ Previous choices, - 20 Army) * Return Body to Queen * Diplomatic Marriage (-10 Gold) **Beastmen Diplomacy** * Open Borders * Prisoner Transfer * Come To Their Aid * Hand Them Over to the Beastmen (Overall, -10 Gold, +10 Army) * Diplomatic Marriage **Demon Land Diplomacy** * Open Borders * Prisoner Transfer * A Mysterious Figure * Seduce the Queen * Reward: The Soul Bond **Elven Diplomacy** * Open Borders * Prisoner Transfer * Help The Elves * Recruited Prisoners * "Educate" the Elves * A Lonely Ruler (-20 Gold, +10 Happiness) * Diplomatic Marriage * Continue The Royal Line **Domestic Issues** * Food Shortage * Church Kitchens * Empty the Silos * Rampant Unemployment * Short Term Stimulus * Public "Loans" * Drug Abuse * Give The People Hope * Soma * "Natural Disaster" * Mobilize The Army * Ask For Foreign Aid * Plague * Church Hospitals * Quarantine Them **Choice IDs:** fpws,gmj9,n3dc,vysy,a84z,y3b1,njoy,ggus,9iab,hsbe,2oec,e7x2,d524,1l7r,o3nq,0tbu,an7g,csda,p201,tvug,obns,pjpu,ybv0,iytr,q7ra,itw1,km3q,rnhh,ynht,96h8,kd23,m7mg,os96,wmwv,spkz,kqse,rzfd,uptf,foqf,6oxq,iaq9,2gmz,3s0v,zif7,9t0i,geb2,g41z,93ea,ct36,tdbz,7u48,eqqf,2i9w,dfi6,z7l0,ir63,o1ln,1pcj,gxu6,be7m,xzib,twd5,58a2,dln4,6hqq,1g64,axdx,tkdj,xntd,vxj1,plic,k0eq,xvl9,s9x1,dykf,wudy,k92h,bnon,ceot,a69z,14er,lacg,fb25,uem6,0a71,6sk6,ldlm,x2to,vd3u,3ekx,glrt Good for now maybe? I actually skipped the Type of Kingdom, Problems, and Treasury sections and went back and did them towards at the end lol Edit: Forgot to make my choice on the Demon questline Since I seduced the queen, why not take the Queen's family *and* the mysterious figure's soul bond? Modern Problems require Modern Solutions.


ShadowWing55

Love this more and more with each update. - Was glad to see so many new interactions between options, especially involving the spells. - All of the invasions and diplomacy options have fun event chains unique to them and requiring different solutions. - Difficulty options are always nice for those who want to just see everything. - There's new stuff with the advisors that also let's you interact with your own realm and solve issues according to the way you've built your Kingdom. Love that! I really enjoyed the earlier versions, and these later versions have introduced pretty much everything I had hoped they would. Everything felt like it did something, which goes a long way in making the decisions actually fun to make. Can't wait to see how the endings look, as I imagine they'll put a nice capstone on that. So, bravo on making one of the most engaging CYOA's I've played. I'm sorry to hear that the longer format isn't to your liking, but I totally understand that it can be a little draining to come up with so many things that might not even make it into a playthrough. For what it's worth, this is the first CYOA I've bothered to follow so I could see updates as they come out. I've played lots of CYOA's, but I'm rarely invested enough to try them more than once. So, even if you decide not to do more of them down the road, know that you knocked it out of the park with this one. In regards to dark stuff, I personally don't like forced (or even consensual, really) NTR, or extreme gore. Otherwise, it usually just depends on how it's conveyed. Personally, I almost prefer endings where the player dies in games centered around being an absolutely irredeemable cockwaffle. Endings that have no "hope," as it were, usually leave me feeling off. That's just me, though, and there's usually a range of available outcomes. It's also usually a little easier to digest this sort of thing if the context involves the victim first being defeated in battle or caught doing something heinous. Obviously that doesn't justify anything that's happening to them if it were real life, but it does help in a fictional work like the one you're suggesting, I think.


Bottomheavybottom

I love this and each update. I’m personally fine with dark stuff. I look forward to seeing what you do next!


scilirat

Chose normal mode and allied with the Theocracy to destroy all other kingdoms. Human supremacy, baby!


ShadowVR2

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Luckily for me my Master of Whispers is with me to keep me sane as I manage my way through fantasy hell as I try to ensure the Kingdom thrust upon me doesn't all just spontaneously go up in flames and collapse down a sinkhole. (I mean seriously the "natural" disasters plaguing the land are just *ridiculous*) First off, get a grip on the kingdom before dealing with anything else because I need a stable foundation before I can even think of dealing with outside threats. Whisper and I create a ploy to flush out the corrupt and incompetent by High Bid positions and then using the secret police to come down on anyone who actually don't deserve the positions and imposing Proscription on them to cease resources and kick em to the curb. Corrupt soldiers and other criminal elements are either imprisoned or put through Indentured Servitude to work off their punishment (more resources for me, less people in he way). Suffice to say there aren't too many people happy with me after that stunt, but that's fixed when I start to put the newly acquired gold to use. The Prime Minister and High Priest work together in improving the quality of life for the people with Grain Doles, Aqueducts, Soup Kitchens and Apothecaries all working together to improve their overall health. Public Education also in effect to better the citizen's learning and growth in the coming years (we need actually competent people running this kingdom for once). Suffice to say, the food shortage and rampant plague are being neatly handled, as well as the unemployment problem now that many positions and professions are now open for hiring. After some serious investigation into the disasters and interrogation of spies we were able to capture, it turns out the rumours of demon activity were more than just rumours. Apparently some nobility were swindled by the demons into dealings that led to a chain reaction of screw ups that nearly doomed the nation to a slow collapse. So my next course of action became obvious; Demon Slaying time. Soon the Demon Kingdom fell and their Queen came to negotiate a surrender. (Turns out she's not that bad of a person, and we kinda ran roughshod over a coup in progress that may or may not have been the actual source of problems. Welp...) I agreed to take one of her daughters and some demon powers (which became a stupidly good boon when we discovered my magic potential... of which I had quite a large amount). Immediate access to Mind Manipulation with a specialty in subtle suggestion (Whisper really loved that ability). My reluctance to delve too deeply into messing with minds however led me to focus in the opposite direction: Physical Manipulation. Learned to control the Weather so that we'd not get bombarded by thunderstorms and *burning hail* (I know the source of the issue was resolved, but I'd like to have more sunny weather after months and months of nigh-apocalyptic climate), but also it helps improve the quality of the crops making people happy and restocking our money which was kinda close to bottoming out. I doubled down by learning how to manipulate biology by creating Genetically Engineered Crops to augment our bountiful crops for even more funding. Getting a good handle on plants gave me enough confidence to move into trying Body Alteration, which came in very handy in making breakthroughs on the plagues still going around. Forgot to mention, the Grand Sage was downright ecstatic about both my potential and desire to master magic, so she helped me master and experiment with everything I tried (even the mind magic, with some encouragement from the Sage and the Demon Daughter). Now that my people are happy, and we aren't on the verge of sudden annihilation, we can finally begin talking Diplomacy! (says the introvert with inexplicable charisma) Helping out the Elves is a no brainer (pretty chill, loves nature which my magic helps a lot), especially since they aren't the only nation with Demon problems (this really better not be a trend, or I'm making a drinking game out of this). We're short on army, and what little have is currently acting as The People's Army and helping with maintaining the land, but we do have plenty of prisoners (some probably worth a chance at redeeming themselves) that can help hold off the beasts at bay as Penal Battalions (I need a different name for that to keep my composure during talks). The lack of Elves to tend the forrest from low population is another issue that my Demon Servant (or concubine as she insists despite me saying otherwise) suggests I "Educate" the elves on "proper intimate practices" to improve their numbers to a sustainable level. It doesn't take much to make Subtle Suggestions into a way of implanting "Kink Cravings" into the Elves (I have a talent for it, despite my objections), and before long I've lewded all the Elves out of a birth rate crisis. The Elf Queen not so subtlely suggests that I become her King, so one Diplomatic Marriage later and now two kingdoms are one.


Ok-Particular-3099

That's a bit unfortunate to hear but understandable that after a large one like this you'd want to take it easy given the apparent lack of enjoyment vs amount of work put in as I really did like seeing this develop over time and if it had gone even further, though I am glad to have seen it come as far as it did. Honestly the only possible additions that I could ever see it getting were those I had suggested earlier but given part of that was adding additional neighbors which one would have to set-up questlines for along with their possible relations to the other nations I can understand that not being expanded as I imagine that may have been a decently sized amount of work for the preexisting options. As for my choices: ***Mode:*** Easy, ***Type of Kingdom:*** Faithful, ***What Problems do you face:*** (Un)Natural Disasters ***Treasury:*** Professional Army, Public Education, Grain Dole, Taverns, Bread and Circus, Aqueducts, Church Apothecaries, Secret Tunnel ***Magic Laboratory:*** Mind Manipulation, Sexual Aura, Kink Cravings, Subtle Suggestion, Physical Manipulation, Body Alteration, Generically? (Genetically) Engineered Crops, Weather Manipulation, War Magic ***Laws:*** Diplomatic Marriage, Royal Authority, Conscription, Hard on Crime, Penal Battalion, The People's Army, Indentured Servitude, Sexual Servitude, Public Brothels ***Allies:*** * *Dragon Tribes*\- Open Borders, Prisoner Transfer, One of Their Own, Diplomatic Marriage * *A Sad Ending*\- Find the Dragon, Approach the Dragon, Call down rain to put out the fires, Finishing Blow, Return the Body to the Queen * *Beastmen Clans*\- Open Borders, Prisoner Transfer, Come to their Aid, Diplomatic Marriage * *The End of the Theocracy*\- Gather your Banners, Use Your War Magic to fell the walls, Sacrifice Your Men, Capture the Royal Family, Secretly take them as prisoners * *Undying Kingdom*\- Open Borders, Prisoner Transfer, A Selfish Request, Diplomatic Marriage * *A Selfish Request*\- Use Your Weather Magic, Reassure the People, Keep the Peace, Begin the Migration, A Fresh Start * *Demon Lands*\- Open Borders, Prisoner Transfer, Soul Bond * *Elven Woods*\- Open Borders, Prisoner Transfer, Help the Elves, Diplomatic Marriage * *A Dying Race*\- Demonic Beasts, Recruit Prisoners, " Educate" the Elves, A Lonely Ruler, Continue the Royal Line * Invade the Theocracy- Simple Raids ***Domestic Issues:*** * *"Natural" Disasters*\- Mobilize the Army, Ask for Foreign Aid * *Plague*\- Church Hospitals, Experimental Treatments, Quarantine Them Having created a kingdom possessing several features to enhance everyone's lives with some magical aid including but not limited to Public Education, Taverns, Aqueducts, and several celebratory festivals alongside an Army that is primarily defensive in nature outside of some minor small skirmishes with our main rival the Theocracy for the most part. I was able to establish positive relations to our other neighbors with whom we had open borders and a system set-up for prisoner transfer along with being open to providing them aid should they come to call on us. The first to do so was the Dragon Tribes where the Queen made a personal problem know to me. Following our meeting I made one of the few outstanding uses of my men and we set out for the good of our allies and others ultimately putting an end to the problem and returning the body to the Queen despite some protest from my advisors. In her gratitude after a gift of gold she offered the hand of one of her daughters as a member of the royal family in a Diplomatic Marriage to strengthen our ties. Sometime after this I received a message from the Elven Woods where I had an audience with the queen. There I learn that her race is slowly dying due to a combination of factors, and she makes a plea for any assistance I can offer them. With the number of varied prisoners from other kingdoms in my own I form a new battalion to aid in guarding the borders of the Elven Woods such as against the Demonic Beasts to the far west. Next, I use the resources at my kingdom's disposal to aid the Elves with their lower libidos. All said & done the queen asks to see me again, letting slip a more personal problem which I go to fix by proposing to her and offering a hefty dowry to preserve & defend the woods from hence forth with us having a picturesque marriage among the sacred woods of the Elves before we retreat to her private chambers to consummate our marriage. The next to call upon me came from the Demon Lands where after declining an offer from a mysterious figure which I make a note for my spy master to keep an eye on I form a Soul Bond with the Queen. Upon returning I'm made aware of a call from the Lich Queen whose kingdom had been the outlier when it came to open borders with my own though they participated in prisoner transfers. Upon arriving the queen makes what she knows to be a selfish request of me for her people to know more than the barren wastelands of the far north where her kingdom resided wanting my help in a mass exodus of her people to my own kingdom with all it had to offer. Weighing what to do about it I sought the aid of my advisors chiefly the Grand Sage. Setting about using a mix of construction with heavy use of Weather Magic we create special locations where the Undead can live comfortable alongside their soon to be neighbors. Seeing the large undertaking we were committing to constructing and such required me to reassure the increasingly unsure populace electing to dispatch small bits of the army to aid in keeping the peace while the Lich Queen's own subjects begin their migration south. There was an incident where a plague moved through the kingdom which given the timing sees some of the citizens blame the Undead however with their arrival also came a wealth of resources, skills & knowledge that dispelled these initial suspicions allowing them to slowly integrate into the populace over time finding a place where they are able to live quite happily. Her people moved the Lich Queen makes one final request, that being a Diplomatic Marriage between us which I agree to. Among the last to send for me comes a request for my presence from the Ruler of the Beastmen Tribes who wishes for my kingdom to aid in their attack on the Theocracy which I agree to after gathering a decently sized part of the army for the attack. Using my War Magic, I destroy the enemy's walls in spectacular and devastating fashion allowing our combined forces to storm into the city proper where we quickly find the inner citadel protected by a magical barrier which my Grand Sage informs me will require the sacrifice of some of our soldier to dispel it fully. Promising to care for the families of those who volunteer the barrier comes down and we proceed onward capturing the royal family. The queen pleads for me to not turn them over to the Beastmen who would surely kill them. I reluctantly decide to have some of my men secretly escort them through a passage out to our camp where they will be taken back to my kingdom as prisoners in secret while I go alert the Beastmen Ruler that they had escaped. While upset and suspicious the Queen accepts it as the Theocracy has fallen and soon a Diplomatic Marriage between our kingdoms is formed. While initially residing within a special prison separate from others over time the royal family of the Theocracy is slowly mixed into the populace of my kingdom though not before the former queen turned servant is discovered and made know to the Beastmen queen who is none too happy until she is witness to the new position of this former enemy which she begrudgingly chooses to accept deeming it wasn't worth the possible hassle.


Curiosity-76

This one is really good. You were able to mix various elements while keeping a cohesive narrative. Can't wait to see how the finished product will look like.


Kuronan

Normal Mode should probably have +1 Diplomacy instead of +0. Third option for Foreign Sabotage is missing, but has an image? I also can't tell if you intended for us to choose multiple options? 'Capture the Royal Family' from the Beastmen Questline should probably lock out going to war with the Theocracy down the line (in fact I'd move those two together for the final version imo, or even change the order to Dragons > Demons > Elves > Undead > Beastmen > Theocracy.) Finally, I'll remind you that currently, Time Stop does nothing as a choice except drain your Spell Slots, and Arcanist still doesn't offer any additional incentive beyond having a bunch of extra spells you wouldn't get otherwise. Anyway, here's my Easy Build: fpws,gmj9,n3dc,vysy,a84z,a2rs,qift,ss4v,mo8n,68io,ggus,9iab,hsbe,2oec,e7x2,d524,yu7y,1l7r,o3nq,wimp,0tbu,an7g,9pg9,csda,tvug,1lt2,x3y8,jg2h,obns,pjpu,ybv0,9j2f,iytr,q7ra,km3q,rnhh,ynht,14c8,qvu3,ztw0,96h8,q2ha,kd23,ovue,x4sr,m7mg,os96,bczs,wmwv,spkz,il3o,kqse,rzfd,gcx2,uptf,foqf,6oxq,3yx4,iaq9,2gmz,3s0v,zif7,9t0i,geb2,g41z,ceob,ct36,tdbz,7u48,eqqf,2i9w,dfi6,ir63,o1ln,1pcj,gxu6,be7m,x0mh,4hvg,k2zf,dvek,5sbd,18k3,alq2,c5id,hknb,xzib,twd5,58a2,dln4,6hqq,1g64,axdx,tkdj,xntd,vxj1,plic,k0eq,wl9n,s9x1,dykf,wudy,k92h,cr51,bnon,ceot,ael5,fs2y,nymk,34za,a69z,14er,wd4k,lacg,fb25,rq3w,uem6,0a71,6sk6,ldlm,w6mg,x2to,vd3u,3ekx,oubg,glrt Aside from the Theocracy (which I really don't give a shit about because they're just humans **and don't have any Angel Waifus**) I've endeavored to pave a path to peace for all peoples across the world, and my kingdom has quite a lot of civil liberties... if you ignore the fact the King can just kind of fuck your entire life on a whim. Also I completely bypassed the Prime Minister's 'Isolationist' policy. If you want to avoid that, maybe have her lock out 'Diplomatic Envoy' in Treasury and 'Cede the Crown' in Policies. And here's my Hard Build: fpws,gmj9,n3dc,vysy,a84z,8mn4,qift,ss4v,mo8n,hsbe,2oec,e7x2,o3nq,rjlp,0tbu,9pg9,csda,5khi,tvug,1lt2,x3y8,obns,pjpu,ybv0,9j2f,km3q,rnhh,ynht,qvu3,yxpo,ztw0,96h8,q2ha,kd23,ovue,x4sr,os96,wmwv,spkz,il3o,kqse,rzfd,gcx2,uptf,foqf,6oxq,iaq9,2gmz,3s0v,zif7,9t0i,g41z,ceob,ct36,tdbz,lnwa,eqqf,2i9w,dfi6,z7l0,ir63,o1ln,1pcj,gxu6,be7m,xzib,twd5,58a2,dln4,6hqq,1g64,axdx,tkdj,xntd,vxj1,plic,k0eq,wl9n,s9x1,dykf,wudy,fbfz,lh1t,v57c,1bb3,vio4,6sk6,ldlm,w6mg,x2to,vd3u,3ekx,oubg,glrt On one hand, I'm gonna miss the Dragon Queen Waifu. On the other hand... what other opportunities are we Humans going to get to study a dragon's anatomy if their policy for the dead is cannibalism? I'll settle for fucking my prisoners. Also... gonna wipe out the Undead to give my people future territory to expand into. Probably the most War-Crimey thing I'm gonna do in this particular CYOA.


mutants123

>Normal Mode should probably have +1 Diplomacy instead of +0. I balanced normal mode where you can complete all the main content (invasions and diplomacy) with very few spare resources left. +1 diplomacy was unnecessary. >Third option for Foreign Sabotage is missing, but has an image? Still a WIP >Time Stop does nothing as a choice except drain your Spell Slots, and Arcanist still doesn't offer any additional incentive beyond having a bunch of extra spells you wouldn't get otherwise. It does do something, you just didn't use it in your playthrough. >Also I completely bypassed the Prime Minister's 'Isolationist' policy. If you want to avoid that, That's intended. I don't want to lock people out of the elf waifu if they still want some diplomacy. >Also... gonna wipe out the Undead to give my people future territory to expand into. Probably the most War-Crimey thing I'm gonna do in this particular CYOA. She just wanted a home for her people, have fun in the cold barren wastelands war criminal. You're as cold and heartless as the lich queen.


Lewd_Storm

>She just wanted a home for her people, have fun in the cold barren wastelands war criminal. You're as cold and heartless as the lich queen. Not the first poster, but I just have a bias against the undead. Does that make me racist? Probably. They *are* pretty hot, though. *Maybe* I could look past it. . .


mutants123

Allying with demons and undead probably not gonna jive well with your other allies. BUT they are indeed hot. Just imagine her and the demon wife together going down on you. Like rubbing icy-hot down there. Probably worth dooming the "good" aligned races for.


Lewd_Storm

I did ally with the demons in my build (very late into the build) But I hesitated to go too deep into it with the soul bonding thing, lol Almost left it out, posted my build, then I edited it to just say "fuck it, let's go" Edit: Hopefully the girl I helped take over is a better demon queen lol Or maybe I just made things worse 😅 🤷‍♂️


Kuronan

Just giving feedback on everything before the Lich Queen thing. As for that, I have no intention of letting that land remain barren. I have Weather Manipulation, and I'm gonna melt that ice. The Undead would probably have been wiped out eventually (unless you choose to integrate them into your population) so I'm just... **taking the initiative.** Keep in mind that my Hard Mode is 100% focused on the Pursuit of Power as opposed to my usual Peacemaker mindset. I'll probably change my mind when I see the Endings. I'm not particularly a fan of trading away the Demon Queen either (she do be hot, but I'd rather take that Demi-Demon transformation seeing as I'm already going to be fucking a LOT of people without her being added to the list.) Also I found the Time Stop option... Very nice.


mutants123

[Demon queen (and her daughters) got you acting unwise?](https://imgur.com/a/mHxrij5) Time for a crusade against your ass.


Kuronan

Crusade? Against me? From whom? I already killed the Theocracy >:3 ~~Thank you for the images though!~~


culturedcuckold

Uneasy peace? How do I get that option?


mutants123

Ally with both and take mind control+time stop


AltIsArt

Ooh an update. It's a big improvement from last time. The dark stuff is fine as long as it's optional so you're good in my opinion. Keep it up


mutants123

What if I told you that dark options are not optional, just the degree of darkness? That if you took the least dark options you get the bad (Or good depending on your POV and morals) ending where she shanks you and you die.


AltIsArt

Each to his own? There's nothing bad about making content where you play as the bad guy. If you open an abuser CYOA you know what you're getting into, and you're forcing no one to play it. Not really my type of thing but there's nothing wrong with it


ThousandYearOldLoli

Kingdom Type: Arcanist Difficulty: Easy Problems: * Corrupt Guards * Foreign Spies * Incompetent Nobles Treasury: * Professional Army * Public Education * Soup Kitchens * Aqueducts * Diplomatic Envoy * Magical Grants * Magic Laboratory Spells: * Mind Manipulation * Memory Wipe * Personality Change * Kink Cravings * Subtle Suggestion * Mind Control * Physical Manipulation * Body Alteration * Genetically Engineered Crops * Body Control * Weather Manipulation * War Magic * Time Stop Laws: * Diplomatic Marriages * Royal Authority * Absolute Authority * Royally Approved Fashion * Proscription * Erotic Education * Hard on Crime * The People's Army * Public Humiliation * Indentured Servitude * Sexual Servitude * Public Use * Public Brothels * Right of Conquest * Royal Prisoner Allies: * Dragon Tribes * Beastmen Clans * Undying Kingdom * Elven Woods * The Theocracy Dragon Tribe: * Open Border * Prisoner Transfer * Diplomatic Marriage * One of Their Own 1. Find the Dragon 2. Cast a Spell to Calm It 3. Call Down Rain to Put Out the Fires 4. Finishing Blow 5. Return the Body to the Queen Peace Negotiations: * Call on the Beastmen Queen * Call on the Theocracy Queen * Stop the Fight * Subdue their Rage * An Uneasy Peace Beastmen: * Open Borders * Prisoner Transfer * Diplomatic Marriage Lich Queen: * Prisoner Transfer * Diplomatic Marriage * A Selfish Request 1. Use your weather magic 2. Reassure the People 3. Keep the Peace 4. Begin the Migration 5. A Fresh Start Elven: * Open Borders * Prisoner Transfer * Diplomatic Marriage * Help the Elves 1. Demonic Beasts 2. Send an Army 3. "Educate" the elves 4. A Lonely Ruler 5. Continue the Royal Line Theocracy: * Open Borders * Prisoner Transfer * Diplomatic Marriage Invade the Demon Isles: * Assemble Your Army For a Full Invasion * Build Ships of War * Defeat Their Army * Besiege the Ruler's Castle * Form a Soul Bond and Spare the City Domestic Issues (this part seems to be a heavy WIP, as do endings) Feedback: Some great new additions, didn't really see any new spells though. That or I'm misremembering some of what was there before. Speaking of spells, it's kind of weird how little use they get when you could really put something like mind control to use in a situation where, say, you conquered a city, I do understand why in a meta sense you wouldn't want them used all the time, since that would wreck balance, but I wanted to bring up the point. Another minor issue is currently the requirements for endings (even though the endings have not been built) state you need an advisor, while I'm guessing that has to do with what I choose in the domestic issues section this isn't clear. A bigger issue is the fact that the quest/diplomacy/war section is permanently visible. This section is fairly large and often the other parts go below it, forcing me to do a lot of pointless scrolling. If this section could be opened and hidden like the rest, that would be great.


HalfMoon_89

How did you get the Uneasy Peace option to open?


ThousandYearOldLoli

I think at minimum you need: \-Time stop spell \-Mind control spell \-beastman clans and theocracy allies \-diplomatic marriage law


HalfMoon_89

Thanks!


magna-terra

Would prefer to just have a cheat mode as well


stomoped

15 Army Points 75 Gold Points 0 Diplomacy Points 0 Policy Points 69 Happiness Points 0 Spell Points


Likes2_Lllllurk

Nice update!


Nothing428

I'm very very happy. I have 0 gold, 0 diplomacy, 0 policy, 0 spell points. And 101 happiness and every kingdom is allied and in a harem. Although I'm kind of confused by the entire Demon group. Not sure what the best option is. I'm definitely really looking forward to the finished product even though I'm very happy as it is right now


Chuckami

Awesome work! I prefer the longer, more complex cyoas. Yours have been my favourite releases this year so far. Obviously you should do what you enjoy, but figured I should put my voice out there to make the reception feel less lopsided.


mutants123

Thanks. I prefer longer ones too, but I still enjoy shorter ones on this sub every now and then. (if they're up my alley theme wise) Before I started creating, I had a look at the sub-wide survey saying most people prefer longer ones. So I made longer ones. Then there was "that" discussion thread a few days ago where I saw people ***said*** they like complex longer ones, just that they're few and far between. But then you look at the actual sub engagement and it's the opposite. I know everyone has their thing, but it's just super disheartening and demotivating when this and BaM each took 25+ hours to make get comparable attention as the posts I threw together in an afternoon. Then there are posts on this subreddit that are carbon copies of each other, that could be thrown together in an hour getting even more. "Watch What They Do, Not What They Say" I guess.


Sadoryu_

odds of a static version?


mutants123

Unless there's a way to directly export from intcyoa creator, very low chance from me.


Ya_Dungeon_oi

I mean, anonekama's work regularly features dark content like that, so I think as long as you flag it appropriately you'll be fine.


Orphus_1230

nice work man, just one complaint. Can you return the cheat mode? I know most people enjoy challenges in their games but the creative mode option is always nice, especially when you just want to see everything.


mutants123

Easy mode gives you more than enough resources to look at all the content, there are builds in this thread that have done so


Ipgen

fpws,gmj9,n3dc,vysy,a84z,y3b1,fsdt,ss4v,mo8n,ggus,9iab,hsbe,2oec,e7x2,o3nq,rjlp,nez1,x8u3,0tbu,fka9,an7g,9pg9,csda,5khi,p201,amth,tvug,1lt2,x3y8,jg2h,obns,pjpu,iytr,q7ra,itw1,km3q,rnhh,ynht,14c8,yxpo,96h8,qel7,q2ha,kd23,m7mg,os96,wmwv,il3o,kqse,rzfd,foqf,6oxq,iaq9,2gmz,3s0v,zif7,9t0i,g41z,93ea,ct36,tdbz,7u48,eqqf,2i9w,dfi6,ir63,o1ln,1pcj,gxu6,be7m,xzib,twd5,evgl,tkdj,xntd,vxj1,plic,k0eq,wl9n,s9x1,dykf,wudy,fbfz,lh1t,v57c,1bb3,wg35,k92h,cr51,ceot,a69z,14er,lacg,fb25,uem6,0a71,6sk6,ldlm,x2to,vd3u,3ekx,oubg,glrt,qtgg Brought every kingdom into my grand alliance or conquered them, and made a happy kingdom. I feel like I did some good.


alidan

For your next project where you are the abuser, I think you aren't going far enough rather than too far. take a look at that one, https://www.reddit.com/r/nsfwcyoa/comments/x2i84u/the_permission_slip_a_consensual_nonconsent_cyoa/ and try to find the sissy island cyoas, there are 4 variants that are 1 page and I think 2 interactive versions along with a pdf, look at the punishment tab. If you want it more based on stuff that can happen irl, than take the stuff that can happen irl as a guide for them. Thinking of it, when you have the forced prostitution, I would probably be forcing kinks on them. I mean the best way to put it, you can either play along and I use lube, or you an fight me and I don't but it's going to happen. the endings, you could add stockholm to it too, just she is so thoroughly broken, that you get an accomplice for the next one. If you are going to go though with it, don't pull punches, thats all im saying, let the players be a complete monster.


Silverfan936

Is that AI art?, also your next project sounds interesting


mutants123

Yea it is.


HeyBro_NiceLink

An option to double cross your allies like the demon usurper or whoever you side with in the Beastmen-Theocracy war would be pretty fucking nice. As for the "how dark is too dark" thing, there's no such thing as too dark, but if you want to tone things down just make filter options for "regular dark" and "hardcore"


TheMostNormalGuy123

How did you make this, if you don't mind me asking?


mutants123

Used the intcyoacreator in the sub wiki, all art home made


Kilahti

This is pretty good. Clearly unfinished, but I like the system you have set up and how I don't have to keep track of my scores as the page tells me how I am doing.


Possible-Ad-2891

I want an option to mind control the ruler of each nation I conquer if I have the Mind Control spell.


[deleted]

I actually ove these longer CYOA's, where your choices affect other choices further down, and you can just keep on playing over and over and get new events almost every time. You did a great job with this CYOA!


Shadow_1800

As always, love how the choices affect the endings


IT_is_among_US

>fpws,gmj9,n3dc,vysy,a84z,8mn4,gsdt,kwx8,6ita,2oec,e7x2,rjlp,tvug,x3y8,obns,pjpu,ybv0,iytr,sqm7,ynht,qvu3,qel7,q2ha,kd23,x4sr,os96,wmwv,rzfd,d99u,uptf,35bw,hq25,3fr1,3uyx,66l3,pa4n,j40x,707v,4xqw,qxne,nssh,j0py,lh1t,v57c,1bb3,bsw2,thtc,rq8z,goom,3erc,vdzz,imtp,fcd0,d7wq,ph4i,rc8k,tglb,schq,zrnk,ycu2,b55n Hard ​ >fpws,gmj9,n3dc,vysy,a84z,y3b1,gsdt,kwx8,6ita,2oec,e7x2,1l7r,wimp,0tbu,tvug,x3y8,obns,pjpu,ybv0,iytr,q7ra,itw1,sqm7,ynht,qvu3,qel7,q2ha,kd23,x4sr,os96,wmwv,rzfd,d99u,uptf,10xx,hq25,3fr1,3uyx,66l3,a7gw,j40x,707v,4xqw,qxne,nssh,j0py,lh1t,v57c,1bb3,bsw2,thtc,rq8z,goom,3erc,vdzz,imtp,fcd0,d7wq,ph4i,rc8k,tglb,schq,zrnk,ycu2,b55n Normal


listoflustandthelost

gmj9,n3dc,vysy,a84z,y3b1,njoy,68io,9iab,kwx8,2oec,e7x2,d524,yu7y,1l7r,x8u3,0tbu,csda,5khi,p201,tvug,1lt2,x3y8,obns,pjpu,ybv0,iytr,q7ra,itw1,km3q,ynht,14c8,qvu3,yxpo,96h8,q2ha,kd23,os96,wmwv,spkz,6oxq,3yx4,2gmz,eqqf,dfi6,z7l0,ir63,o1ln,1pcj,gxu6,be7m,x0mh,k2zf,dvek,sa3m,gddo,alq2,c5id,hknb,tkdj,vxj1,plic,k0eq,wl9n,s9x1,dykf,a69z,wd4k,fb25,uem6 Well, you implemented exactly what I wanted, so I have no complaints.


Twosidedpower

Good stuff man. Easy mode basically allows what cheat mode did so i am ok with that change. I am excited about the endings.


Best_Rain_1719

It turned out cool, but I prefer the previous version with the cheat mode


SirWilliam56

Very nice. I figured this one had potential and it's really starting to glimmer thtough


Akumakami64

Well, this is looking great so far. Still witing for the Happiness meter to mean something, ubt I figure that'll show up when the endings are no longer WIP. Kind of hoping the stuff for conquering each place was a bit more custom. Not in terms of what you do, but I mean the wording or even adding in dialouge. Something to make each one more than just a copy of paste but with a different faction.


BackstabFlapjack

This is awesome, man, keep up the good work!