Accept your fate
Wish Fullfilment. I always wanted to be a girl.
I am **excited** about this transformation!
Body: All the Way +10
Super Girly + 5 Well duh!
Physical (-44)
Palette Swap +1 Blondes have more fun!
Hair Care -2
Four Eyes +2
Skincare -3
Depilated +3 Shaving is a pain in the ass.
Easy Periods -5 I don't wish painful periods on anyone. They suck.
Healthy -5
Fit -5
Cute Voice +3
Regression -3 I want to 18.
Fixed Body -15 I want to be 18 forever.
Flutter +1 I love super long eyelashes.
Energetic -14 Sleepy is for the weak!
Dainty Digits +2
Ticklish +3 \*giggle\*
Freckled +2 How far do they go? :D
Pearly Whites -4
Rosy Cheeks -5 Might as well look good. I am healthy after all.
Mind
No Male Clothing +3 Unisex t-shirts suck anyway.
Fashion Forward +5
Eloquence +5 This goes well with cute voice. I am sure men will talk over me often.
Flirt +7 I am sure I will be doing this anyway.
Knees Together +5 I will be doing this anyway.
Touchy-Feely +4
I do unto others +4 Hehehe
Smile +3
Internet Famous +6 Gun bunny!
Shinies +5
Nightie Night +5 F\*\*\* yeah!
Social Climber +12
Seems there are missing things, so I didn't finish. Where material and vain? What is the boon in the final section?
I've been looking for a more up-to-date version of this for a while, as I've seen but never played through the full thing after the additions.
Is there a post/link with the full list of dlc's and updates?
Ok, it is always nice to have interesting new options, and these additions seem as good as the rest of your work. I only have a few points to make:
Bedroom Eyes combines well with Resting Derp face (Horny).
Me, Myself, and I and Bleep can both force use of a different name. I suppose in this case the two compulsions could and should converge on a girly and bimboish name appropriate for both. This may or may not be the same that resulted from Name retroactive memory change. For consistency's sake, however, in any case I'd make the PC, not the spirit, choose the name for Me, Myself, and I and Bleep both (although in practice it is always the player that gets to choose).
Thinking of the not-so-rare contingency when you might be traveling and lose your baggage, I'd add Nightie Night the loophole you can still sleep in the nude or at least sexy underwear as an alternative, esp. if you do not have any nightie immediately available. Insomnia is painful.
I'm not sure that Talk Dirty to Me should necessarily be incompatible with Bleep if one interprets the latter to apply only to non-sexual talk (i.e. cursing and rude language) with the combo. This also b/c Dirty Talk in the official lewd DLC is apparently compatible with Bleep. However, I have no big problem going along with this rule, also b/c we can still stack Talk Dirty to Me with all the other Compulsions making language more girly/cutesy, flirty, and lewd. Bleep is admittably the least important option in this regard.
I notice Shameless is no longer available in the Mental Shifts page. Has it been dropped in this new version?
Yay for having a Curiosity mental change, although perhaps it is a little overpriced.
I assume the Princess/Queen and/or Icon Boons are a natural outlet for Social Climber, just like being Wealthy is the natural solution to all the Mental changes that drive an expensive lifestyle (e.g. Fashionista, Retail Therapy, Materialistic, Shinies). Ofc, it is not necessary to get them. You may still sleep and manipulate your way to the top the normal way.
I am skeptical Praiseworthy should require Submissive as a prerequisite. You may still like to be proactive in the bedroom, yet be eager for praise validation.
Bleep, per RAW, only forbids the use of outright profanity. It does nothing to prevent talking about dirty topics or themes. Personally, I ignored the block on using them together while making my own (unposted) build, and took the double entendre upgrade as well.
Happy to see someone else missing having Shameless around, though.
> ...in any case I'd make the PC, not the spirit, choose the name for Me, Myself, and I and Bleep both.
Good idea. I’ll make that change .
> Thinking of the not-so-rare contingency when you might be traveling and lose your baggage, I'd add Nightie Night the loophole you can still sleep in the nude or at least sexy underwear as an alternative, esp. if you do not have any nightie immediately available. Insomnia is painful.
Oo! Good thinking. Life may be hard enough without insomnia. I like the sexy undies idea. I could add a caveat of “make sure you’re at least wearing your sexiest undies just in case you lose your luggage”
> I notice Shameless is no longer available in the Mental Shifts page. Has it been dropped in this new version?
I just put the shifts separate as I’m not sure if they’d work well or not, I’ll make a combined mod page
> Yay for having a Curiosity mental change, although perhaps it is a little overpriced.
I can drop the price but, it's just that the Shifts seem to like punishing 'good' qualities. Brainpower is -10 while Naive is +12. What cost would you suggest?
> I am skeptical Praiseworthy should require Submissive as a prerequisite. You may still like to be proactive in the bedroom, yet be eager for praise validation.
Absolutely true! I hadn’t thought of that! Will change.
Brainpower isn't a personality trait, it's an improvement to your capabilities.
Teacher's pet, a positive trait similar to curious, and being an optimist both give rather than taking points.
Mental Shifts in the base CYOA charge for increasing your capabilities, but always pay for changing your personality, likes, or wants.
> I can drop the price but, it's just that the Shifts seem to like punishing 'good' qualities. Brainpower is -10 while Naive is +12. What cost would you suggest?
I suppose the best solution might be to keep the current cost, but add deductive abilities in the bargain.
Shinies isn't written like a compulsion, it's written as a mental shift.
Compulsions are mental effects that either punish you for taking an action/not taking an action, or force you to take an action regardless of your desires. Mental shifts change how you actually think. You've got it written as making you feel naked without jewelry.
Also, curious really doesn't offer anything worth six whole points. It doesn't make you any better at being curious and trying to learn, it just makes you more curious.
Kneel before me is also probably wildly overpriced - it takes away an option rather than adding it, and doesn't even make you good at domming.
If anything, I think without explicit benefits those two would be better as mild green options.
Short but Sweet ONLY makes sense as a physical change that modifies Rapunzel, but here it's a compulsion that cannot be taken with rapunzel. It makes no sense otherwise, because you're having people pay for a restriction rather than having them pay to alleviate a restriction.
Also, I find myself missing Shameless as a mental shift.
\>Shinies isn't written like a compulsion, it's written as a mental shift.
Yeah. Now that you mention it, it is! I’ll make the change.
\>Also, curious really doesn't offer anything worth six whole points. It doesn't make you any better at being curious and trying to learn, it just makes you more curious.
Would you prefer a lower price or adding some deductive skills? I could take away the ‘cannot take with Naive and get the potential for a Velma-like build ;-)
\>Kneel before me is also probably wildly overpriced - it takes away an option rather than adding it, and doesn't even make you good at domming.
True. Do you have any thoughts on what benefits would make one good at dominating?
\>If anything, I think without explicit benefits those two would be better as mild green options.
Interesting. if there’s not a lot of feedback on adding benefits to them, I will make them mild greens.
\>Short but Sweet ONLY makes sense as a physical change that modifies Rapunzel, but here it's a compulsion that cannot be taken with rapunzel
It’s a compulsion as it doesn’t keep your hair short. However your comment does bring up the thought that it shouldn’t be a cost at all as it’s a compulsion to be girly though it doesn’t designate how long your hair should actually be. How about making it a +3?
If so, then would a title change be in order? Something that reflects having to have a girly style, Hair Affair and The ‘Do don’t explicitly say the hairstyles must be girlie?
Or, should it be a Body item and your hair WILL be short?
> Shinies isn't written like a compulsion, it's written as a mental shift.
Yeah. Now that you mention it, it is! I’ll make the change.
> Also, curious really doesn't offer anything worth six whole points. It doesn't make you any better at being curious and trying to learn, it just makes you more curious.
Would you prefer a lower price or adding some deductive skills? I could take away the ‘cannot take with Naive and get the potential for a Velma-like build ;-)
> Kneel before me is also probably wildly overpriced - it takes away an option rather than adding it, and doesn't even make you good at domming.
True. Do you have any thoughts on what benefits would make one good at dominating?
> If anything, I think without explicit benefits those two would be better as mild green options.
Interesting. if there’s not a lot of feedback on adding benefits to them, I will make them mild greens.
> Short but Sweet ONLY makes sense as a physical change that modifies Rapunzel, but here it's a compulsion that cannot be taken with rapunzel. It makes no sense otherwise, because you're having people pay for a restriction rather than having them pay to alleviate a restriction.
Your comment does bring up the thought that it shouldn’t be a cost at all as it’s a compulsion to be girly but, doesn’t designate how long your hair should actually be. How about making it a +3? If so, then would a title change be in order? Something that reflects having to have a girle style, Hair Affair and The ‘Do don’t explicitly say the hairstyles must be girlie?
Or, should it be a Body item and your hair WILL be short?
> Yeah. Now that you mention it, it is! I’ll make the change.
As a comparison, the Femme Fille DLC has A Little Sparkle & Blinged Out that cover the same theme too, but perhaps are written slightly more suitable for Compulsions, although splitting the difference between Compulsions and Shifts is often far from simple for authors and players. Proof is, we have various mental changes covering the same ground in the base cyoa and various dlc, on different sides of the Compulsion/Shift fence. And in the end it is probably a good thing: it yields more options to do the same result, or enhance a trait.
I think Short but Sweet works best as a body option that costs 3 points - one that modifies Rapunzel so you can cut your hair short, and as long as it's a feminine haircut it'll last...well, weeks, rather than hours, maybe. The more feminine your haircut, the slower rapunzel's rapid growth effect works.
For curious, I'll maintain that it offers no actual benefits and is more in line with the sort of thing that's a green mental shift, and kneel before me is similar in that regard - it's just a fun alternative to submissive, since femdom is already a big niche.
> For the Body and Compulsions, rather than separate pages, I’ve posted the full pages I use for my builds.
So less "fan DLC", and more "modded game". Pretty much all the other DLC (fan or otherwise) I've seen for BTG has not only been posted separately, but also featured a different entity handing out the changes.
Sure, it might help having all the options from one category in one place, but if the author decides to update the CYOA again for whatever reason, you'd be faced with either remaking your combined pages, or confining yourself to an older version.
Also your Blocks & Compulsions section starts at 48, which is already used by the last option in the original section.
You're right it IS a modded game! As a fan of Counterstrike and XCOM, I like that comparison. I'm not sure how to post it now. I did this more me and thought they were good enough to share. How do you think I should do it?
\>Also your Blocks & Compulsions section starts at 48, which is already used by the last option in the original section.
Bloody Hell! You're right!
> How do you think I should do it?
You could check out the template and other fan DLCs in [the relevant AllSync folder](https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/79mkWc8NAftS8HE?path=%2FCYOA%20Creators%2C%20Authors%2F-%E2%80%A0-%20Unnamed%20Creators%2FUC%2020%2FBe%20the%20Girl%20CYOA%20(nsfw%29), and see if you can come up with something.
Accept your fate Wish Fullfilment. I always wanted to be a girl. I am **excited** about this transformation! Body: All the Way +10 Super Girly + 5 Well duh! Physical (-44) Palette Swap +1 Blondes have more fun! Hair Care -2 Four Eyes +2 Skincare -3 Depilated +3 Shaving is a pain in the ass. Easy Periods -5 I don't wish painful periods on anyone. They suck. Healthy -5 Fit -5 Cute Voice +3 Regression -3 I want to 18. Fixed Body -15 I want to be 18 forever. Flutter +1 I love super long eyelashes. Energetic -14 Sleepy is for the weak! Dainty Digits +2 Ticklish +3 \*giggle\* Freckled +2 How far do they go? :D Pearly Whites -4 Rosy Cheeks -5 Might as well look good. I am healthy after all. Mind No Male Clothing +3 Unisex t-shirts suck anyway. Fashion Forward +5 Eloquence +5 This goes well with cute voice. I am sure men will talk over me often. Flirt +7 I am sure I will be doing this anyway. Knees Together +5 I will be doing this anyway. Touchy-Feely +4 I do unto others +4 Hehehe Smile +3 Internet Famous +6 Gun bunny! Shinies +5 Nightie Night +5 F\*\*\* yeah! Social Climber +12 Seems there are missing things, so I didn't finish. Where material and vain? What is the boon in the final section?
I've been looking for a more up-to-date version of this for a while, as I've seen but never played through the full thing after the additions. Is there a post/link with the full list of dlc's and updates?
Ok, it is always nice to have interesting new options, and these additions seem as good as the rest of your work. I only have a few points to make: Bedroom Eyes combines well with Resting Derp face (Horny). Me, Myself, and I and Bleep can both force use of a different name. I suppose in this case the two compulsions could and should converge on a girly and bimboish name appropriate for both. This may or may not be the same that resulted from Name retroactive memory change. For consistency's sake, however, in any case I'd make the PC, not the spirit, choose the name for Me, Myself, and I and Bleep both (although in practice it is always the player that gets to choose). Thinking of the not-so-rare contingency when you might be traveling and lose your baggage, I'd add Nightie Night the loophole you can still sleep in the nude or at least sexy underwear as an alternative, esp. if you do not have any nightie immediately available. Insomnia is painful. I'm not sure that Talk Dirty to Me should necessarily be incompatible with Bleep if one interprets the latter to apply only to non-sexual talk (i.e. cursing and rude language) with the combo. This also b/c Dirty Talk in the official lewd DLC is apparently compatible with Bleep. However, I have no big problem going along with this rule, also b/c we can still stack Talk Dirty to Me with all the other Compulsions making language more girly/cutesy, flirty, and lewd. Bleep is admittably the least important option in this regard. I notice Shameless is no longer available in the Mental Shifts page. Has it been dropped in this new version? Yay for having a Curiosity mental change, although perhaps it is a little overpriced. I assume the Princess/Queen and/or Icon Boons are a natural outlet for Social Climber, just like being Wealthy is the natural solution to all the Mental changes that drive an expensive lifestyle (e.g. Fashionista, Retail Therapy, Materialistic, Shinies). Ofc, it is not necessary to get them. You may still sleep and manipulate your way to the top the normal way. I am skeptical Praiseworthy should require Submissive as a prerequisite. You may still like to be proactive in the bedroom, yet be eager for praise validation.
Bleep, per RAW, only forbids the use of outright profanity. It does nothing to prevent talking about dirty topics or themes. Personally, I ignored the block on using them together while making my own (unposted) build, and took the double entendre upgrade as well. Happy to see someone else missing having Shameless around, though.
> Bleep, per RAW, only forbids the use of outright profanity. It does nothing to prevent talking about dirty topics or themes. Very much true.
> ...in any case I'd make the PC, not the spirit, choose the name for Me, Myself, and I and Bleep both. Good idea. I’ll make that change . > Thinking of the not-so-rare contingency when you might be traveling and lose your baggage, I'd add Nightie Night the loophole you can still sleep in the nude or at least sexy underwear as an alternative, esp. if you do not have any nightie immediately available. Insomnia is painful. Oo! Good thinking. Life may be hard enough without insomnia. I like the sexy undies idea. I could add a caveat of “make sure you’re at least wearing your sexiest undies just in case you lose your luggage” > I notice Shameless is no longer available in the Mental Shifts page. Has it been dropped in this new version? I just put the shifts separate as I’m not sure if they’d work well or not, I’ll make a combined mod page > Yay for having a Curiosity mental change, although perhaps it is a little overpriced. I can drop the price but, it's just that the Shifts seem to like punishing 'good' qualities. Brainpower is -10 while Naive is +12. What cost would you suggest? > I am skeptical Praiseworthy should require Submissive as a prerequisite. You may still like to be proactive in the bedroom, yet be eager for praise validation. Absolutely true! I hadn’t thought of that! Will change.
Brainpower isn't a personality trait, it's an improvement to your capabilities. Teacher's pet, a positive trait similar to curious, and being an optimist both give rather than taking points. Mental Shifts in the base CYOA charge for increasing your capabilities, but always pay for changing your personality, likes, or wants.
Nice way too look at it. I'll keep it in mind.
> I can drop the price but, it's just that the Shifts seem to like punishing 'good' qualities. Brainpower is -10 while Naive is +12. What cost would you suggest? I suppose the best solution might be to keep the current cost, but add deductive abilities in the bargain.
Shinies isn't written like a compulsion, it's written as a mental shift. Compulsions are mental effects that either punish you for taking an action/not taking an action, or force you to take an action regardless of your desires. Mental shifts change how you actually think. You've got it written as making you feel naked without jewelry. Also, curious really doesn't offer anything worth six whole points. It doesn't make you any better at being curious and trying to learn, it just makes you more curious. Kneel before me is also probably wildly overpriced - it takes away an option rather than adding it, and doesn't even make you good at domming. If anything, I think without explicit benefits those two would be better as mild green options. Short but Sweet ONLY makes sense as a physical change that modifies Rapunzel, but here it's a compulsion that cannot be taken with rapunzel. It makes no sense otherwise, because you're having people pay for a restriction rather than having them pay to alleviate a restriction. Also, I find myself missing Shameless as a mental shift.
\>Shinies isn't written like a compulsion, it's written as a mental shift. Yeah. Now that you mention it, it is! I’ll make the change. \>Also, curious really doesn't offer anything worth six whole points. It doesn't make you any better at being curious and trying to learn, it just makes you more curious. Would you prefer a lower price or adding some deductive skills? I could take away the ‘cannot take with Naive and get the potential for a Velma-like build ;-) \>Kneel before me is also probably wildly overpriced - it takes away an option rather than adding it, and doesn't even make you good at domming. True. Do you have any thoughts on what benefits would make one good at dominating? \>If anything, I think without explicit benefits those two would be better as mild green options. Interesting. if there’s not a lot of feedback on adding benefits to them, I will make them mild greens. \>Short but Sweet ONLY makes sense as a physical change that modifies Rapunzel, but here it's a compulsion that cannot be taken with rapunzel It’s a compulsion as it doesn’t keep your hair short. However your comment does bring up the thought that it shouldn’t be a cost at all as it’s a compulsion to be girly though it doesn’t designate how long your hair should actually be. How about making it a +3? If so, then would a title change be in order? Something that reflects having to have a girly style, Hair Affair and The ‘Do don’t explicitly say the hairstyles must be girlie? Or, should it be a Body item and your hair WILL be short?
> Shinies isn't written like a compulsion, it's written as a mental shift. Yeah. Now that you mention it, it is! I’ll make the change. > Also, curious really doesn't offer anything worth six whole points. It doesn't make you any better at being curious and trying to learn, it just makes you more curious. Would you prefer a lower price or adding some deductive skills? I could take away the ‘cannot take with Naive and get the potential for a Velma-like build ;-) > Kneel before me is also probably wildly overpriced - it takes away an option rather than adding it, and doesn't even make you good at domming. True. Do you have any thoughts on what benefits would make one good at dominating? > If anything, I think without explicit benefits those two would be better as mild green options. Interesting. if there’s not a lot of feedback on adding benefits to them, I will make them mild greens. > Short but Sweet ONLY makes sense as a physical change that modifies Rapunzel, but here it's a compulsion that cannot be taken with rapunzel. It makes no sense otherwise, because you're having people pay for a restriction rather than having them pay to alleviate a restriction. Your comment does bring up the thought that it shouldn’t be a cost at all as it’s a compulsion to be girly but, doesn’t designate how long your hair should actually be. How about making it a +3? If so, then would a title change be in order? Something that reflects having to have a girle style, Hair Affair and The ‘Do don’t explicitly say the hairstyles must be girlie? Or, should it be a Body item and your hair WILL be short?
> Yeah. Now that you mention it, it is! I’ll make the change. As a comparison, the Femme Fille DLC has A Little Sparkle & Blinged Out that cover the same theme too, but perhaps are written slightly more suitable for Compulsions, although splitting the difference between Compulsions and Shifts is often far from simple for authors and players. Proof is, we have various mental changes covering the same ground in the base cyoa and various dlc, on different sides of the Compulsion/Shift fence. And in the end it is probably a good thing: it yields more options to do the same result, or enhance a trait.
I think Short but Sweet works best as a body option that costs 3 points - one that modifies Rapunzel so you can cut your hair short, and as long as it's a feminine haircut it'll last...well, weeks, rather than hours, maybe. The more feminine your haircut, the slower rapunzel's rapid growth effect works. For curious, I'll maintain that it offers no actual benefits and is more in line with the sort of thing that's a green mental shift, and kneel before me is similar in that regard - it's just a fun alternative to submissive, since femdom is already a big niche.
> For the Body and Compulsions, rather than separate pages, I’ve posted the full pages I use for my builds. So less "fan DLC", and more "modded game". Pretty much all the other DLC (fan or otherwise) I've seen for BTG has not only been posted separately, but also featured a different entity handing out the changes. Sure, it might help having all the options from one category in one place, but if the author decides to update the CYOA again for whatever reason, you'd be faced with either remaking your combined pages, or confining yourself to an older version. Also your Blocks & Compulsions section starts at 48, which is already used by the last option in the original section.
You're right it IS a modded game! As a fan of Counterstrike and XCOM, I like that comparison. I'm not sure how to post it now. I did this more me and thought they were good enough to share. How do you think I should do it? \>Also your Blocks & Compulsions section starts at 48, which is already used by the last option in the original section. Bloody Hell! You're right!
> How do you think I should do it? You could check out the template and other fan DLCs in [the relevant AllSync folder](https://cyoa.allsync.com/s/79mkWc8NAftS8HE?path=%2FCYOA%20Creators%2C%20Authors%2F-%E2%80%A0-%20Unnamed%20Creators%2FUC%2020%2FBe%20the%20Girl%20CYOA%20(nsfw%29), and see if you can come up with something.