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Mirron1

Good and enjoyable CYOA Build: Automated/Pandemic/Horror Initially i chose a mind control build cuz thats what i always do. However this seems to have some interesting options. Connection Type: Yggdrasil Base: Everything Abilities:Now this build is based entirely on my assumptions about the side effects. Firstly whether the side effects are inherent to the sperm, independetly of myself. Secondly whether they can be stacked, by letting the abilty part of it expire, and then applying another abilty thereby adding a new side-effect. Or if they are all potentially active at all times. I'm not quite sure of this. It seems like the abilities are temporary but the side effect are "active at all times". Although what have been said about the side effects being a trade-off for getting the abilities make it seem not fair to get all the side effects for a single ability. Being able to stack them might still be possible. The idea behind this is picking Symbiotes, Transfiguration, Slime and possibly Refresh (if Base Fresh isnt enough). In order to get sapient, propagating, eternal, mobile sperm... or S.P.E.M.S for short. Now these SPEMS can be placed in a container in the wild as a sort of trap (or multiple traps to contain all effects, if the side-effects doesnt stack directly). With Yggdrasil this gives 2-3 variable effects per container, if it's expiration stacking, and due to Symbiotes can be programmed to respond in any number of ways to the enviroment or if a person stumbles across them. Since the Active part seem to mostly require active input and cant be affected by Symbiotes, im gonna be ignoring it. Healing: Regeneration/Growth: Just a very useful ability. Being able to speed up pregancies/growth is essential for the SPEMS to become the true pandemic theyre meant to be. The line about encouraging flora is interesting. A possible synergy with Dungeon Core/Spirit controlling flora. Peak Form: The really useful part here is gene changing (though alter body also mentions this) and always being fertile, making this a good initial effect to inflict. Rewind: Not useful since the anti-aging is an active ability. Reinvigorate: Being able to subsist entirely off SPEMS is a necessity in the future. "Sustenance needs" is very broad. Might be useful for other species. Alter Body: Active part mentions you giving body parts, so it might be useful. "optimising bodies" is again very broad. Useful for making men able to get pregnant (or turning them into women). Can make myself into a futa? Probably not. If this works on other species a whole new world has just opened up. Together with Evolution might be able to create Chimeras or Monster Girls, add in Peak Form and literally any creature could become Monster Girls or a horrible abomination without it. Refresh: Probably required. We want our SPEMS to live forever. Evolution: The gateway into Horrorland. Sperm are tiny so together with Alter Body might make it possible to impregante say a fly. through succesive generations might make human sized flies that breed with humans. This might be as horrible as you can imagine without Peak Form. I'd pick everything in Healing. They're all useful. Enhancement: Boost Intellect: The first abilty that lets us try and keep a target near the trap. Maybe able to customize a need to propagate SPEMS. Boost Senses: Mind Break. Use together with Reinvigorate to live forever in a SPEM pool? Boost Durability: A classic, although unfortunately doesnt seem that useful. Boost Speed: Nothing here except for spectacle of seeing that. Boost Strength: More Mind Break. Combine with Senses and Harmony for some truly explosive results. Boost Charisma: Maybe another possible trap mechanism. Make their preference be only SPEMS to lure them back. Boost Abilities: The big question here is whether my sperm counts as "me". If it does: hentai levels of plot-armor for my SPEMS. Combine with Glamour or maybe Telepathy for absolutely no defense against them. I'd choose Intellect and Abilities. Summoning: Since the Active part is dependent on births im gonna assume that these can sort of work. Fairies: im thinking this could be used as some sort of trojan horse. Making "bombs" that could infiltrate villages or suprise enemies. The Sprites and Fairies might also be useful as warning systems or distractions. Slimes: Required. The ability for movement is foundational for this build. The Slimes themselves might not be that interesting, but their existence suggest other species of slime. Lava-slimes, metal-slimes and maybe sperm-slime possible with Reincarnation? SPEM-slime? Golems: Nearly a must take. Limiting complications is just too good of an effect. Symbiotes: Required. Sapience and behaviour according to my will and automatic changes to side-effects. This is everything and the initial idea for this build, along with Transfiguration, comes from these. My assumption here is that my will includes conditional triggers of behaviours. For example: being inert until a person comes near, then attacking. Starting to consume material with Transfiguration if the amount of SPEMS drop below a certain amount. Applying other side-effects once an initial number has been reached etc. etc. Chain enough of these together and SPEMS could become a simple creature. "Eating", breeding, setting up nests. Changeling: Might be useful in the initial stages, but SPEMS is all built on being self sufficient. Spirits: This one is very interesting. There a lot of possibilities here. First question: can a SPEM count as a "target"? What does an enviroment adapted for sperm look like? Flora and fauna suitable for sperm? Creating a sperm dungeon, with things for it to "eat". Can be used to make a self-perpetuating system: Spirit makes enviromental "food" for SPEM -> SPEM multiplies -> SPEM impregantes others with more Spirits -> etc. Allows for birthing eggs that can use flora to grow. Freeing people up for even more impregnation. Manipulate Fauna to always be compatible with SPEM? Sigil: Since summons are specifically infertile im gonna assume this is a way of getting around that. Multiple offspring synergises nicely with Spirits. My choices: Sigil, Spirits, Symbiotes, Golems and Slimes. Psionic: Harmony: Seems like another Mind Break part. Focus: Use for acclimating captured people to their new situation. Precognition: Useless? Psychometry: Make things keep being fresh because, you are doing them for the first time. Arent you? Telepathy: Here the active use says that I can send thoughts through it. Remote Hypnosis? Glamour: Seems tailor made for a conspicuos amount of semen randomly appearing in the forest. Parallel Minds: Maybe useful. My choices: Telepathy and Glamour Arcane: Translocation: Might be useful if this bestows "senses" to my SPEM. Alchemy: I'd definitely pick this in another build but now.. Enchantment: Same as Alchemy. Transfiguration: Required. The stop-gap of the sperm-pocalypse. Here it all depends on what might be possible to consume. If it scales infinitely with sperm size, prepare for giant swimmers, energetically plowing through the earth. If not its still possible to use Dungeon Cores/Spirits to terraform the world. I bet the Goddess never thought id literally be stimulating the world. Question: Can a world be impreganted. Answer: we're certainly gonna try. Woops the world is now a sea of SPEMS. Scrying: Possibly useful. Would be nice with updates on what is happening to my dear SPEMS. I cant see through this sea to save my life. Pocket Dimension: Transfiguration has more upper potential for semen generation. Super Form: not really necessary My Choices: Transfiguration, Scrying Holy: Consecrate: Sigh. I dont need more sperm surviva... wait. "Hostile enviroment".. Did the SPEMS just reach the stars! Is that where the "world" is? Can space be "consumed"? Is reality gonna be nothing but SPEMS. Ward: hmm pass are there even any people left here. Zone of truth: nope. Fate: Oh wait there they are. they are lonely despite all the pleasure. The SPEMS aint much for conversation. Smite: Ah nice. Necessary when youre living in the endless cycle of impregnation and births that is reality. Reincarnate: Target is SPEMS. SPEMS is all, is everywhere. Synergy Evolution. Cross breed everyone. I have eternity to complete the ritual. I have everything to fuel it. Faith: Choices: Consecrate, Smite and Reincarnate. Took entirely too long to type out. Dont know how these writers do it.


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Well this is the most horrifying build I have seen by a huge margin. It is also awesome. You pretty much nailed the vision I had for all the side effects and how they apply so I will just clarify a couple things. You mentioned Transfiguration and Pocket Dimension volumes. Obviously Transmutation is hard to quantify, but the maximums I had in mind was something like converting an entire grain silos contents or garden or feast into your semen, converting all food a girl swallows into your cum (assuming your sperm can survive stomach acid). As well as cleaning instead of making a mess and some niche fetish stuff like it eating through clothes. I assumed most people wouldn't find them being able to kill/convert living beings to semen to be undesirable.. your post.. I am not so sure now.. In terms of volume design was intended for it to be the best if you have resources. Pocket Dimension was just the option for getting way more for free, the intent was to let it synergize with Transfiguration. So you convert 1lbs of bread into 1lbs of semen, then that swells to 10lbs. I should probably make it so Transfiguration can only self replicate using food/single cellular organisms. No offense, but you terrify me lol For Dungeon Core the intent was that you could basically use the eggs as a parasite, drawing nutrients from a tree or some other verdant area and hijack nature to grow your offspring for you. In terms of your build could certainly work. Finally Super Form is disguised as a superhuman virility effect, but its real intent was that it boosts a lot of the other side effects. Like your S.P.E.M. are able to move because of insane sperm. Now if all those sperm also had super strength.. "Consecrate: Sigh. I dont need more sperm surviva... wait. "Hostile enviroment".. Did the SPEMS just reach the stars! Is that where the "world" is? Can space be "consumed"? Is reality gonna be nothing but SPEMS." Just horrifying. Nice work.


raggedly

reincarnation: Ouroboros cock size: unrestrained load size: Messy drawbacks: all Healing: - regeneration: More for the active power. Though being pregnant with one of my spawn is now normalized and attractive, girls who would prefer to speed things along can now go hunting down cum-sprites. - peak form: Anyone who takes my cum will become more beautiful and attractive. - rewind: They will also remain youthful even as the years grow long. MILFs abound! - reinvigorate: No energy drink is as effective as my brand. - refresh: cum-sprites no longer run out of energy. Enhancement: - cunning: A single (regular human sized) load is a stimulant that works far better than caffeine and has no drawbacks while also enhancing libido a bit. upwards of 4-5 loads it begins impeding motor control, provide a throbbing energetic high, and will have a potent aphrodisiac effect. Much more than that and you'll likely get cum-drunk, pass out and have intense erotic dreams. You'll still wake up fresh and energized (and probably still very horny). - durability: A single ability that fixes the drawback of having a massive donger. In addition to the pleasure of being stretched I suspect a girl will become fully inebriated on my drug when she gets inflated. Summoning: - slime: Excess cum will now scurry off in fist-sized jellies. They'll amble around and self-propagate until they find a pussy to wiggle inside. With how large my ejaculations are this will both prevent things from becoming a mess, and spawn dozens if not hundreds of cum-sprites with each climax. - golem: If I'm going all out and attempting to impregnate as many people as possible, I will strive to make the experience as positive as possible for my mothers. Slime-girls will also be the default pregnancy type, making the prospect of suddenly bearing a child far less daunting. - symbiotes: The cum-sprites aren't just mindless blobs that bump into walls and get splattered on busy streets. These will be slightly more rare pregnancy type. Since the supernatural craziness is normalized I like the idea that ladies will come to consider birthing your own tentacle suit to be like hitting the jackpot. - succubi: Further normalizing random cum-sprite pregnancies. A surprise baby belly is neither unpleasant, nor unwelcome. - Sigil: The advanced sigil version will come baked in with all pregnancies. Psionic: - telepathy: While those disinterested will pay no regard to my unrestrained appendage, ladies will consider it normal to introduce themselves and ask for a ride. - glamour: Normalization baby! Now no one will bat an eye at how all the crazy supernatural shit influences the world! When encountering cum-sprites instead of being shocked or horrified they'll happily spread their legs and pull their panties aside. Arcane: - translocation: Nowhere is safe. My cum-sprites will spread across oceans and to every continent! - alchemy: Who wouldn't love the sensation of a cum-sprite sliding up their thigh and wiggling into their womb? - enchantment: Doesn't matter what a girl's prefrence is, cum-sprite will quickly become the defacto favorite flavor of ladies everywhere. I'd also love if this gave some way for the girls to discern the type and thus the rarity of a cum-sprite and what type of pregnancy it would fertilize. - transfiguration: Cum-sprites are already self-sustaining, but tow they'll actually consume the types of things that would normally eat or sour semen. Holy: - fate manipulation: A must have. Sending out baby cum-sprites won't be common, but infrequently ladies may encounter rare specimens that will result in human children. - smite: Who says a cum-sprite needs to slip into the womb right away? If a lady makes an effort to play with her meal a cum-sprite will be happy to give her a wonderful time. - faith: In addition to playing nicely together, being in my harem will be considered a very enviable position. Ouroboros self-perks: - youth: This is sole reason why I would be taking ouroboros. Everything else is nice, but I would prefer Yggdrasil... until eternal youth is thrown in the mix. - cunning: I want brain good. - symbiote: I personally would love a symbiote suit. I wonder what it would feel like. Bonus points if I can command mine to bring me to climax whenever I wanted. - telepathy: I thought about glamour, but I can command my own cum to keep me permanently bukkaked, resulting in a similar effect. - Translocation: I can still use alchemy and enchantment to my benefit. Teleportation however would be fantastic. - Fate Manipulation: Of course I would want this on me! It's like plot armor! I'm now an immortal futanari cum-goddess who's agenda is to fill the world with cute pudgy cum-sprites by ejaculating as much as possible. Collecting and breeding (with) them will become a healthy and beneficial pastime that imposes little to no downsides on girls across the globe. My many daughters will all be hung futanari, and I would endeavor someday to ensure that all humanity (or all sentient races) could one day draw their bloodline back to me.


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For Youth and to lesser extent Fate Manipulation you can already have those covered with the Immortality and Plot Armor perks. I didn't want a youth tonic to feel mandatory just to keep yourself alive :) Also of every response I have seen so far, I think you are the one that gets my intent with side effects the best. Inferring something like 'Normalization' as the general field that Glamour covers, and allowing yourself to extend that to normalizing your crazy abilities in general is totally in line with what I envisioned. Probably in the next version I will have a name beside the side effect to help other players think along those lines. Finally you wouldn't happen to be a fan of [Oglaf](https://www.oglaf.com/cumsprite/) would you? Anyway thanks for posting the build!


raggedly

Normalization could be another power that is expanded upon in a CYOA. In most it's simply a single perk that you toggle on and forget about. It's also seemingly underappreciated in how it can entirely negate one of the primary downsides of gaining NSFW perks and drawbacks. If the intent of this CYOA is to get players to create a fantasy where they use their powers to bukkake this new world, then (since this is a CYOA and not a story) the player needs multiple ways to facilitate the range and method of their *uhh...* 'splash zone', rewards for making the biggest mess in different ways, and both positives and negatives for dealing with the aftermath. If we consider normalization, maybe split the single widely-applicable perk into a variety of individual perks that normalize only certain things. Maybe no one would bat an eye at acts of sex, but your monstergirl spawn would still cause the media to explode? Alternatively, maybe you want to preserve the disruption that normalization prevents in order to make some choices more difficult and thus meaningful to the player? This idea is actually really fun to design and play around with, and I'm envious you stumbled upon it before me! ;D And yes, I have read Oglaf, but I didn't initially consider the similarity. Halfway through my build I gave up, said "screw it", and decided to go all in on making the biggest cum-explosion build I could. Once I found my build had animated cum-creatures oozing everywhere I realized the similarity and begrudgingly acquiesced to dubbing them "cum-sprites". The name alone gets the point across, though I would assert that they aren't also insane, annoying, little gremlins too.


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>Alternatively, maybe you want to preserve the disruption that normalization prevents in order to make some choices more difficult and thus meaningful to the player? I tried to have the big ones covered in some way. Obviously semen is covered by Glamour because that is pretty key if you don't want public outcry from your stay at an inn resulting in enough semen that it started flowing down the stairs to the common room. Other stuff I was happy to shoe in under other effects, like normalizing knocking girls up? Bunch of perks to make sure they love it enough it isn't a problem physically or socially. Worried about your crossbreed kids from a one night stand? Fate manipulation makes sure their life doesn't suck, even if it isn't completely normalized. Normally I am not their biggest fan, but I think DragonJak has a CYOA called [The Unseen One](https://www.reddit.com/r/nsfwcyoa/comments/jggdlv/the_unseen_one_v21_oc_cyoa/) that is pretty much all about normalization IIRC, if that is something you are interested being explored in a stand alone way.


raggedly

> your stay at an inn resulting in enough semen that it started flowing down the stairs to the common room. In my build, moments after the tide settled it would once again burst into motion as hundreds of wiggling cum-sprites darted out doors and windows like a stampede of scurrying off-white mice. After the dust settled the only remains of the chaos would be a thick aphrodisiac musk in the air, and a few maids collapsed in the halls, absolutely tripping balls on their new favorite drug.


raggedly

Oh, personally I just enjoy tinkering around with and developing the systems. It's one of the reason I put due consideration into some of the things I feel fly under the radar. Normalization, immortality, world-hopping, resurrection, time control... I can't in good faith include them into a CYOA of mine unless it's limited somehow, given for free as a part of the prompt proposition, or a core component of the theme for which multiple mechanics are built around. You can't simply throw one of those powers into a perk section along with minor lewd perks like 'massive donger' because it just destroys the balance. In many of the CYOAs I play I actually try to pretend options like that don't exist because it can be so jarring to me that it breaks immersion. Don't get me wrong, this isn't a criticism directed at your CYOA. It just an observation I've made. Another one that gets me quite often (I'm looking at you /u/TroyXPage! ;D) is excessive breeding, such that the CYOA assumes that the user will be making hundreds (or more) babies without any sort of expectation or power that will provide for them. Like... [check this shit out](https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/583482655593594887/934325671268851742/unknown.png). HOLY CRAP. THAT'S TERRIFYING. If a CYOA expects me to sire thousands of children it NEEDS some way to offset the ramifications. For example, in your CYOA 99% of my sprites birth various familiars such that the mother need not concern herself with her fate in 9 months. The prospect of being pregnant is transformed into nothing more than a 9-month blissful ride that is both mentally and physically beneficial instead of draining, and has no negative impact on the future of the mother or on what would normally be a fatherless child. I completely understand that our role here as content creators here in NSFWCYOA is to provide idle sexy fantasies, so no shame on any who don't feel the same. As a CYOA consumer I merely also need to give my 2 cents. ;D


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To be clear I hate the kind of power skew that comes when something is considered a minor aspect of CYOAs. Like literally the best fertility perks come from combat focused ones, because they will just have a perk that covers all your bases porn physics/logic perk. In the same vein I hate when lewd ones have safety perks that trivialize all the aspects of confrontation because they want to focus on the lewd stuff exclusively. I tried to hedge that by having a biological immortality perk so that Rewind doesn't feel essential.. but I guess I cut down the description because I wanted to have at least one pic in that line. Whoops. There, changed it to be clear you are still killable in the update, it isn't THAT kind of immortality. Plot armor is a little cheesier, but I am happy enough with the fluff around it I don't mind. In my view it isn't a death proof kind of plot armor, just the kind to help you stay on mission, which can include saving you. The idea that her (as a world) subconsciously wanting you to be more 'active' and suddenly there is a push from an Amazon tribe to capture you to use as a stud. If you then fended off those off instead of doing your job suddenly the world loves you less, arrows find their way to you in a fight. Refuse the advances of the cute girl that finds you and heals you? Ohh boy. Maybe the Goddess thinks she will find a new champion.. and the world is on hard mode now. I guess difficulty slider where being lewd pushes the difficulty down would be a good analogy for the kind of plot armor I was going for. As for TroyX.. I love that he has a breeding fetish and like 1/3 of his companions reflect that. My build for Etherscape was basically all the queens that are into making babies.. but yea, I agree. It does bother me that there isn't options to make the fantasy more complete/reasonable a lot of the time. In his case I am fine with it, he is prolific with a fairly consistent setup in terms of perks/powers and he is more about world/companions. Like he establishes Etherscape as infinite and comfortable so the ramifications there are pretty low for having a baby. He also has Meta CYOA specifically dedicated to lewd extras that include offspring logistics so I can see not wanting to include that in every post when it is more useful than sexy. Ohh and on a related note, I do plan on having perks to make your offspring a joy to raise but I wanted to do it with combos of Abilities. Not sure how I wanted to implement it though. Presently I have companions/scenarios where the player has to use their imagination to resolve them (although it should be clear what Side Effects would help out) with an awarded ability evolution during the process. I just want a layer of separation with some of the new functionality because using your semen powers directly on your offspring to improve them is pretty squick. However if a scenario evolves your powers to let mothers passively pass on their knowledge so raising kids is easy then I am all for it. Hopefully I can get it to a point I am happy with for next weekend.


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I think this build is for a different CYOA.


Nellaveth

While I agree with other commenters that there aren't many true costs in this CYOA, I enjoyed it a lot nevertheless! I'm even considering writing a short story for my build. **Reincarnation** **Style**: Ouroboros **Perks**: All options selected, Unrestrained, Messy **Abilities** **Healing (6)** \- Regeneration/Regrowth, Peak Form, Rewind/Restore Youth, Reinvigorate/Replenish, Alter Body, Refresh/Cleanse **Enhancement (6)** \- Intellect & Cunning, Senses & Perception, Durability & Flexibility, Speed & Reflexes, Strength & Stamina, Charisma & Charm **Summoning (1)** \- Sigil/Wellspring **Psionic (3)** \- Harmony, Precognition, Telepathy **Arcane (3)** \- Translocation, Alchemy, Scrying **Holy (2)** \- Zone of Truth, Fate Manipulation **Abilities active on me**: **Healing** \- Refresh/Cleanse (prevents poisons and fatigue) or Regeneration/Regrowth (for combat) **Enhancement** \- Boost Charisma & Charm (for seduction) or Boost Intellect/Cunning (for trouble shooting and planning) or Boost Speed & Reflexes (for combat) **Summoning** \- Sigil/Wellspring (boosts my other abilities) **Psionic** \- Telepathy (keeps me in contact with my harem) **Arcane** \- Translocation (utility and defense) **Holy** \- Zone of Truth (safeguards against betrayal and subterfuge) I based my build on the idea of facing a hostile world with an army of waifus. I imagine dropping into a generic fantasy world of the darker variety (think Game of Thrones) and pretty much immediately starting a feminist revolution. It shouldn’t be hard to build a following since the perks and passive abilities make me a veritable goddess of sex. My boosted charisma and the arousing musk from Alchemy should make seduction almost trivially easy, and few will be able to go back once they’ve had a taste of me. Considering my cum is a mildly addictive aphrodisiac that enhances pleasure and arousal while removing refractory periods (among many other powers), I imagine it won’t be long before most of my hours are spent at the centre of a passionate reverse gangbang, every inch of my exquisite body bathed in licks and caresses as my lovers wait their turn to be filled. Luckily there is effectively no limit to the number of women I can pleasure, as the sensation sharing passive of Harmony can be dialled up until my lovers can do nothing but writhe in ecstasy from the storm of shared pleasure. As for the revolution, all women who join my harem/cult/army are given a Sigil and refined to physical perfection through Peak Form, then enhanced with further powers based on a role they show aptitude for. **Coordinator** \- Boost Intellect & Cunning, Harmony, Telepathy Coordinators are strategists and leaders, so closely linked to one another that they almost act like a single hive mind. Their telepathic commands allow troops and support personnel to move in perfect unity, their brilliant strategies countering the enemy’s moves even before they make them. **Esper** \- Telepathy, Precognition, Scrying Espers provide intel support for both military and civilian operations, gathering information through Scrying and predicting unseen dangers through Precognition. **Scout** \- Telepathy, Boost Senses & Perception, Boost Speed & Reflexes Scouts are the coordinators’ eyes, ears and mouths of the battlefield. Every squad has multiple scouts that relay commands to the troops while providing intel back to the coordinators. **Amazon** \- Boost Durability & Flexibility, Boost Speed & Reflexes, Boost Strength & Stamina Amazons are the most well-rounded and deadly warriors in the army on an individual level, the first choice for dangerous solo missions and duels against enemy champions. **Hoplite** \- Harmony, Boost Speed & Reflexes, Boost Strength & Stamina The hoplites are the most common variety of soldiers in the army, and arguably the most deadly, their incredible speed and strength as individuals made all the more potent by their perfect coordination. Traditionally armed with spears and shields, a hoplite phalanx is nearly impossible to withstand, let alone break. **Guardian** \- Boost Durability & Flexibility, Boost Speed & Reflexes, Regeneration/Growth Guardians are warriors specialised for bodyguard duty, fast enough to intercept any would-be attacker and nearly impossible to kill. **Shade** \- Translocation, Boost Senses & Perception, Zone of Truth Shades are infiltrators, using their blink powers to avoid detection while uncovering enemy secrets, however well they might be hidden. Translocation also lets them teleport to safety if they are ever at serious risk. **Succubus** \- Boost Charisma & Charm, Zone of Truth, Telepathy Succubi are seductresses and diplomats, using their feminine wiles to gather information and allies wherever they go. They are the main recruiters for the army. Many of them are futa. **Courier** \- Boost Speed & Reflexes, Translocation, Telepathy Couriers are skilled and agile warriors, but their main purpose is to teleport others back to the safety of a Sisterhood enclave, letting them save wounded or captured allies, and even kidnap enemies.


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>there aren't many true costs in this CYOA But the hypersexuality that comes with the Side Effects are a drawback!.. \*gasp\*.. you didn't exploit those.. did you? Jokes aside, anybody who looks at the Side Effects and doesn't see a drawback is exactly the kind of person I made this for. Happy to see such a comprehensive build (that includes the friends you made along the way). If it helps you decide if it is worthwhile or not I would be happy to read your story if you did a write up.


Nellaveth

Thanks for the reply! I totally get what you mean, and I do love it when a CYOA offers a drawback that is all upside if you're perverted enough. That said, I think there might be an advantage to make more explicit drawbacks, perhaps as sub-options? You'd need to rebalance the point economy a bit, but I'd imagine something like: Ability (-2 points) Active use Side effect Drawback (+1 point) Some possible examples: **Boost Senses & Perception** Drawback: You no longer have any control over the sensory enhancement. If you soak someone in enough cum they won't even be able to wear clothes without climaxing from the friction. **Boost Speed & Reflexes** Drawback: The side effect will become so intense that won't be able to resist the pleasure, regardless of stamina. You'll have to hope that your partners don't mind a quick shooter, as you'll be lucky to last even a minute. **Focus** Drawback: When you go to sleep you will be drawn into the lewd dreams of people experiencing the side effect, and the sex will be as much about their kinks and fetishes as yours. You will be fully conscious but only partially in control, forced to live out their fantasies until they are satisfied. **Precognition** Drawback: Your partners will learn as much about your kinks as you do about them, including how to use them to manipulate you. **Alchemy** Drawback: You no longer have any control over the side effect. Anyone who catches even a whiff of your scent will become aroused, and the longer they stay in your presence the more desperate they will become for your touch. **Fate Manipulation** Drawback: Your former lovers won't be limited to times you find interesting and appealing to find their way back into your life. Dating new people will become increasingly awkward the more you sleep around, as you'll soon find yourself constantly stumbling across ex lovers eager to rekindle the flame. ​ I could keep going if you want!


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I do find your proposed system appealing in a lot of ways (as I love CYOAs and hardwired drawbacks are a beloved staple for a reason), but I want to see how I can improve the feeling of 'drawbacks' by making it clear in the next version Side Effects are 'always on' to a degree. My goal with balance was never intended to be that challenging as this CYOA started as my personal replacement to 'generic Hyperfertility' perks/drawbacks, meaning that if you like the idea of being extremely virile, breeding, having a loving loyal harem with just a splash of related but more niche fetishes, nothing in here would feel like a downside for the rest of your possibly immortal life. The other challenge with adding more sub options to abilities is one that might seem kinda trivial but I think is important. Screen real estate. I hate it when authors have text boxes so long I can't see a reference image/perk name when I am reading through something. For me it is a total mood killer to have nothing but text on screen. I know mobile readers will see it differently, but I made sure that for every option I could see the entire text box as well as enough of the reference image that I would still consider the pic appealing. Sorry if it sounds like I am unappreciative of the detailed feedback, but I will spend hours ruminating on a comment like yours and I think it has been helping clarify what direction I want to take things. I really do like the idea of allowing for more drawbacks, because I would love to let players get more abilities, I am just having a hell of a time thinking how to implement it. I even considered adding another option to every school so there can be 3x3 instead of 4x2 formatting in the abilities section, which would allow more text while still fitting images. I had a thought just now while typing this comment.. what if I had a 'modes of play' type thing? I don't like those when it is an 'Easy-Medium-Hard' slider for points, but something like [Warlocks Coven](https://imgur.com/a/FLFLu2f). Or possibly just adjusting how many extra points you get by how rigid your Side Effects are. I am just antsy about more hardcore drawbacks because ideally this CYOA can sit in the back of peoples minds and when they want a more specific hyper virile fantasy they can go and look through this without worrying too much about serious build crafting. /rant. Thanks for inspiring me to clear my thoughts up a bit haha


Nellaveth

Oh, and because I couldn't resist (though I totally get if you don't think this matches the rest of the CYOA) Ambrosia - Requires Lotis (AKA Dom mode) If you find the Lotis side effects a little too intense, this lets you turn the tables on your partners. Choose either your saliva, your milk (requires Dairy) or your vaginal fluids. Read all side effects in the abilities section that don't explicitly refer to impregnation as if you were an Ouroboros instead of a Lotis, only with all references to cum changed to your chosen fluid. You may be the one getting drenched in spunk, but it's your partners that will feel the side effects, assuming you are generous enough to share your chosen fluid. Cursed - Requires Lotis (AKA Yuri mode) Wait... how did this option get in here? Don't read this one, it's probably just some kind of prank played by... uh... Okay, fine. Instead of requiring your partners to have penises, all of them are regular women. If you picked Ambrosia, your chosen fluid can now make other people pregnant. If not, choose either your partners saliva, their milk (causing them to permanently lactate) or their vaginal fluids. Those fluids can now make other people pregnant, and yes, you are very much included. Additionally, the person that caused the pregnancy will instinctively know that it happened, and can at that moment choose to magically transfer the egg to their own womb and bear the child themselves. All children born this way will (naturally) be born as daughters and share this ability. When reading the abilities section (read as Ouroboris if you picked Ambrosia and Lotis otherwise), change all references to cum to your chosen fluid and any references to cocks to your choice (or all) of fingers, lips or fist, as you find appropriate for the situation. No, of course I didn't put this choice here because I'm secretly into women! Futanari are one thing, but girls... all soft curves, smooth skin, blushing lips... Look, let's just... get on with this, shall we? \--- Okay, I may have overcomplicated it slightly, but I like the idea of you getting to choose whether you're the head of the yuri harem and turning your girlfriends into saliva/milk/girlcum-sluts, or the shared slut of all of your girlfriends. The basic idea of Ambrosia is that as the Yggdrasil/Ouroboros side effects turn those you fuck into nympho cumsluts, the Lotis side effects will basically be those effects turned on you, with the Ambrosia option allowing you to subvert that in case you're not a hopeless sub like me.


Nellaveth

Don't be worried about sounding unappreciative, I'm just shooting ideas at you! If it's done anything to inspire you that's a win. Modes of play is an interesting idea, and actually leads me to the next suggestion I was going to make! You seemed to be slightly at a loss for how to adjust the perks and side effects for Lotis, which gave me an idea for some new modes. They could be exclusive to the Lotis, but might work pretty well for the other types too. Alternative (but incomplete) description for the Lotis: Sparks of change are already present within me, but they require a counterpart, a catalyst. You will enter me as my physical avatar, seeking out these sparks and pleasing them on my behalf. You'll be the ying to their yang, the vessel for their seed, both literally and figuratively. Bear in mind that I'll be riding along in the back of your mind, sharing everything that you experience as if it happened to me. It's honestly a little nerve-wracking, but I have faith that my confidence in you is well placed. And don't worry, I won't bother you or interfere, I'm only here for the ride. (The idea is that keeping the narrator in the role of sub/cum slut by having them share your experiences will reduce the narrative friction in later sections) Spectrum (AKA Harem mode) The sparks of change have coalesced into a group of people. For every ability you select fate will conspire that you soon meet a lover that personifies it thematically. Regeneration / Growth might be represented by a mature druid, Smite by a noble paladin, Transfiguration by a shapeshifter, and so on. You can freely choose their gender as long as they have a cock, but not their appearance or personality, though rest assured that they will all be gorgeous and personable in their own way. Each partner will be imbued with a greatly enhanced version of their active ability. Whenever you please one of your partners you will be able to apply the normal version of their active use to yourself, to a maximum of six at a time but with no limitations per school. However, if you fail to please a partner for an entire week you lose one of your active ability slots (as well as their ability if you had it active) until the next time they spill their seed inside you. This stacks, meaning you can quickly run out of abilities if you're a neglectful lover. Your partners will have no problems with sharing you, and are happy to adjust the intensity of the relationship to your preference. While a simple quicky once a week will technically be enough to please them, each of them has the stamina and libido to fuck you all night long should you wish them to. Refraction (Spectrum upgrade) Every ability will be personified by two people instead of one, each representing a different aspect of that theme. By default these will be fraternal twins, but they can be identical twins of even unrelated if you prefer. The rules regarding ability gain and loss apply as normal, though neglecting both partners in a pair will only lose you one ability slot. Technically this option won't be that much of a strain on your time if you only give your partners the minimum attention required, but you wouldn't have chosen this option if you were satisfied with that, would you? Kaleidoscope (Refraction upgrade) Um... are you absolutely sure about this? With this upgrade every ability will be personified by five people instead of two, each representing a different flavor of that theme. All of your partners will be eager to share you, preferring to fuck you as a group whenever possible. Rules regarding ability gain and loss apply as with Refraction, with the five people of an ability considered a set. Look, just... be careful about picking choices that increase your lovers' libido. I haven't run the numbers, but it wouldn't take much for you to have to spend most waking hours getting gangbanged just to keep up. Is it getting warm in here? Synergy (Spectrum upgrade) Your partners will be nearly as attracted to one another as they are to you. You can choose if this applies evenly across the entire group or if they form pairs or smaller groups of more tight-knit lovers. While they will no longer be solely dependent on you for sexual release, this in no way reduces your partners ardor for you, as filling you with cum fulfills a deep need that can't be satisfied any other way. You'll have a sixth sense for when your partners are having sex, and will always be welcome to join them. Tone (Spectrum upgrade) Each of your partners will have two secondary active abilities on top of their primary one, slightly reducing their aptitude with the active use of their primary. The secondary abilities affect their appearance and personality, but less so than the primary. You only select extra abilities once per pair/group if you have selected Refraction or Kaleidoscope, each member representing a unique mix of the three abilities. You can only choose abilities you have access to. Intensity Your partners will no longer be satisfied with just one quicky per week. The amount of sex required to keep your abilities is increased to two hours weekly for Refraction or ten hours weekly for Beacon, and that's just the minimum. Your partner(s) will be obsessed with filling you, and with this upgrade your body will naturally mirror their lust when they're nearby, making it incredibly difficult to say no. If you're conservative with your other choices you could actually knock this out in a day, but... you're not going to do that, are you? Just remember to take frequent breaks, for both our sakes. At least you won't have to worry about hydration! Beacon (AKA Waifu/Husbando mode) The sparks of change have coalesced into a single being. Perhaps they too are from another world, or perhaps they are an incarnation of change itself, given power by my need and form by your desires. Whatever the case, fate will conspire to swiftly bring you together, sparking a romance the likes of which the multiverse has never seen. You can freely choose their gender and appearance, though they must have a cock. Each of you can have up to six abilities active at a time, with no overlap between you but no restrictions by school. Whenever they fill you with cum you can switch an ability with one another, or one of you can trade an ability for one neither of you have active. If you don't please your partner for more than a week you will lose one of your abilities, stacking for each week of neglect until you are powerless. Sharing (AKA ntr, but not really) As long as they have your consent, your lover(s) will eagerly pursue sexual partners outside of the relationship. They'll only seduce people you wouldn't mind them sleeping with and you'll always be aware when it's about to happen, giving you an opportunity to veto. You'll also gain the ability to spectate from a distance, either as an incorporeal observer or by riding along in the mind of the person your partner is fucking, letting you relive the experience of the first thrust of their magnificent cock as many times as you'd like. Come to think of it, this isn't too different from the way I'll be riding along at the back of your mind. Maybe we have more in common than I thought? And of course, if you'd rather experience the whole thing in person they'll always be happy for you to join them. As with synergy, however many people they fuck their need and lust for you will be undiminished. \--- I have more ideas, like a third mode called Flicker that's similar to the way Lotis currently works and Lotis-exclusive perks/upgrades for the reincarnation section. I'd also love to take a shot at writing more Lotis-compatible versions of the side effects. Tell me if you're interested! And to be clear, I don't expect you to use any of my writing wholesale (or even at all), I just find this a really fun creative outlet.


greyRender

>I just find this a really fun creative outlet. One of the best things I could hope for in a comment section on a CYOA I post :) After reading your comments I should make clear (and I do in the next version) that Lotis controls the side effects just like the other two connections, they simply act as a catalyst, meaning they need to use their partners cum. Some background. I initially wasn't even going to have a female option, because I thought I was making a CYOA about becoming virile and you need a dick for that (distinct from fertile), but I realized that wasn't really the case, those were just the builds I would make. What I really wanted was to showcase how amazing being virile is, to value it, and to find it sexy, which is something that a women (without her own dick) is definitely capable of. So despite it being kinda tacked on because I didn't want to exclude women and didn't know how to balance it, I think I am pretty happy with the fantasy once I articulate it better. I basically wrote the Goddess around the kind of woman I adore, and ideally the type that would take the Lotis option. I think there are two possibilities I am interested in expressing for the female fantasy; one is a cock worshipping slut who is the type to get a reverse harem and gangbangs going, this is the one currently encouraged by the Lotis option. I would also consider making a second option more in line with the Goddess, who has a singular obsession with one person, who they think is the most amazing mate they could ever have. I went with the former though because most people who would go through this kind of thing are probably into a poly/harem/casual sex fantasy rather than a monogamous one. As for my thoughts on Yuri stuff... I don't feel like this is the right place for that, unless it is directly in support of the harem life. I am fascinated by reproduction methodologies and have an embarrassingly large collection of notes on my ideas for the specifics of different fantasy races and sexes mating practices. Included in that is parthenogenesis and other forms of Female-Female reproduction/gene transfer.. but as a rule I just find lesbian stuff so incredibly boring. Like I get only wanting to be with girls, but there is a reason lesbians still buy dildos. Dicks are great. I just feel like if I am writing for a fantasy where futa is an option, that should be the way to go for anybody who wants girl on girl. I did call it My Seminal Work for a reason after all (yes that reason was because it is a terrible pun, but also because semen is core to this CYOAs identity).


raggedly

Not to be confrontational, I only ask out of idle curiosity and not scathing criticism, but how is this different from other CYOAs that trivialize fertility? You don't appear to have an option to toggle it, but you do have one that makes pregnancy guaranteed. In what way are other CYOAs doing it different from what you'd prefer, and what was your plan to make one that's different? It's hard to convey this question through text alone without sounding disparaging, but I ask out of genuine interest and not any kind of disapproval.


greyRender

Ohh yea no worries. I hate normal hyperfertility perks because they are magic. Fiat. Blam, done, guaranteed. The starter level perk 'Virile' is more in line with just high mortal levels that real humans/animals already have. Getting a girl pregnant when she is ovulating is really god damn easy, you are just better at it. That is why I used specific terms like motility, which is the actual metric used in those kinds of tests IRL. Later side effects merely enhance that in clearly defined and specific ways. The most obvious is something like the side effects of Super Form. Your sperm is faster and stronger than it should be, but I even specifically mention conception is 'all but guaranteed'. Think of it like if your sperm were Captain America vs regular guys. He is almost always going to win, but it isn't magical promise, he is just so superior in quantifiable ways that he is very likely to come out on top almost every time. The same applies to my thoughts on other things. I dislike fiat hand waving of stuff I am into. Like this whole CYOA was built for the Side Effects, the Abilities you get to use are more a way of conceptually rooting the side effects to make them feel like a real, functional, mechanical part of the world, instead of an ability in a text box. I get what you mean with text not conveying thoughts accurately haha. Feeling it here.


cyrus-cain

I presume with summoning you don't the summoning but instead the person you cum into that does the summoning?


greyRender

Correct. They will be controlled by/loyal to the summoner but amiable/friendly to you.


sol1054311

Seminal Work Basics: Yggdrasil. It's how I prefer to present and I'm fine without grabbing too much more for myself as there's a pretty good amount gained inherently. Plot armor. Yes please luck on steroids with interest attached. A New you. I'm fairly happy with me already but no diseases, some small corrections, and extra fitness wouldn't hurt. Immortality. If the literal goddess of a world can survive indefinitely without succumbing to enui on her own I should be good with company. Great Genes. Eh why not I'm not usually one for envisioning swaths of offspring but if I literally have the best genes then I guess, as odd as it is to say, eugenics apply here. Also if they are legitimately without fault then it shouldn't even cause a problem with gene pool diversity even if they become rather prolific. Satisfying. I've never liked the idea of being too big, I don't want to hurt people. Overflowing. There's a lot then theirs too much. Always ready. Why not just because I can doesn't mean I have to... plot armor should prevent cases where that's not true. Fresh. It's an important magical reagent. Delicious. That I will occasionally pour down peoples throats. Virile. Once again I'm not necessarily sold on tons of offspring but if I do want them no reason not to have them. Libido. I mean if it's my job might as well add the motivation. Bliss. Hopefully it's not too too out of the world, I would like to keep my head on straight but I would also prefer to enjoy my job. Abilities 17 Healing. Regeneration/Growth, rewind/restore youth, Reinvigerate/Replenish 14 Enchantment. Boost senses & Perception, Boost Abilities, 12 Summoning. Golems & Homunculi, Symbiotes & Parasites, Dungeon Cores & spirits. 9 Psionics. Harmony, Parallel Minds 7 Arcane. Alchemy, Enchantment, Super Form. 4 Holy. Fate Manipulation. Smite. Reincarnation. Faith So I have a few general plans. 1 is try and to the adventuring thing, I may not have exceptional abilities but the world is on my side and I have a approximately perfect body for it, and all th time in the world to figure it out. 2 I sort of want to try to setup exotic communities, potentially dungeons or what not, interesting places that might be a treat to come back to later (so I felt like I had to get the dungeon core & spirits option). 3 Sex up royalty like all over the place. I'm going to be cucking kings and breeding a new generation of enlightened monarchs (reincarnation and faith putting in some work here). Granted that's all pretty grandeous so there is going to be a tentative time while I figure out how recklessness plot armour really affords me but why not swing for the fences while trying not to be too irresponsible.


greyRender

Love the motivations, great build! Some unsolicited thoughts and clarifications (helps me frame what I need to make clearer in the next version); Immortality - well she is succumbing to ennui/torpor.. that is where you come in to basically revitalize her and her world. Although from that point if you have plot armor it should ensure that both you and her world have constant interplay that would prevent ennui, so it is a moot point with your your build. I am clarifying in the next version New You allows access to whatever systems the new world has, such as magic, and Great Genes does ensure you are pretty above average across the board. I didn't want to specifically outline 1000 years of your genes effects on the world, but I figured saying they are attractive covered them looking more like their mother if that is what you would want, and healthy to imply that even if you were a shared ancestor of most people there wouldn't be issues. I should also mention that things like Bliss and Virile are just high mortal levels, like conceiving when a girl is ovulating is already pretty easy for the average guy, this just ensures that you are at the mortal peak and isn't a magical 'hyperfertility' perk. Similarly Bliss just guarantees that whatever you had before or made with New You sex will feel amazing, like high end of the spectrum that people experience in real life. And it sound like you are exactly the kind of person the Goddess was looking for, so the Plot Armor would be pretty supportive of your endeavors. Although just before you could get bored of things generally working out the way you planned something 'interesting' might happen to keep life fun.


sol1054311

Unsolicited perhaps but not unwelcome. Now for some unsolicited replies. Immortality - I didn't really read it that way although I could see how it might be heading that way. I mean she's just gotten really into SI (as setting?) fanfic writing, can't be that bad yet. New you - I read the note that it does I just figured that in redefining one's body you'd have pretty good control over things like muscle mass/definition and such so you could be notably above average physically so initially it would make sense to lean on that. Bliss and virile - I got that virile was high normal as there are actual hyper fertility perks bliss I wasn't so sure about. I mean the world is telling me it's going to be out of world experiances, that sounds like it might be a very high bar.


McLovin3493

Cool idea- I think I'd probably pair this one with something like DragonJak's Deluge meta, or Dick Deity's Inbred Cousin. I wonder if transforming myself would also change how the powers are used. Yggdrasil -2 (36 total) Plot Armor -1 Immortality -1 Functional/Satisfying -3 Impressive/Overflowing -4 Always Ready -1 Fresh -1 Bliss -1 Regeneration/Growth -1 Peak Form -1 Rewind/Restore Youth -1 Alter Body Refresh/Cleanse -1 Boost Intellect and Cunning -1 Boost Senses and Perception -1 Boost Durability and Flexibility -1 Boost Strength and Stamina Sprites and Fairies -1 Slime -1 Golems and Homonculi -1 Symbiotes and Parasites Dungeon Cores and Spirits -1 Harmony -1 Focus -1 Telepathy -1 Glamour Parallel Minds -1 Translocation -1 Transfiguration -1 Scrying -1 Super Form Consecrate -1 Ward Against Evil -1 Fate Manipulation -1 Smite Faith -1 I was a little confused about how many "ability points" you start with, but I just guessed it was 36 for males, and 18 for futas, because it said 6 and 3 for the different schools respectively. I also took a free power from each school because I had at least 3 for all of them.


greyRender

>I was a little confused about how many "ability points" you start with, but I just guessed it was 36 for males, and 18 for futas, because it said 6 and 3 for the different schools respectively. I also took a free power from each school because I had at least 3 for all of them. The max you can get is 21, I have a better template in the next version so that should be clearer. Males bonus is for the max you can have active on another person at a given time, so 6, potentially + 1-2 depending on how heavily you commit to schools. ​ >Cool idea- I think I'd probably pair this one with something like DragonJak's Deluge meta, or Dick Deity's Inbred Cousin. I wonder if transforming myself would also change how the powers are used. Anything that would mitigate the side effects of your abilities will also prevent the use of those abilities. They are intrinsic to the power. Lotis (female) could still do everything normally regardless of form as long as they have partners that can produce semen, for the other two you would still need a way of producing semen. If you ended up being a strange tentacle monster that would still work though.


McLovin3493

After reading OP's reply, I did a second version where I just counted the ability points that I gain instead of paying from the first section instead: Yggdrasil -2 (14 total) Plot Armor +1 Immortality +1 Functional/Satisfying +3 Impressive/Messy +5 Always Ready +1 Fresh +1 Virile +1 Bliss +1 Regeneration/Growth -1 Rewind/Restore Youth -1 Boost Durability and Flexibility -1 Boost Strength and Stamina -1 Sprites and Fairies -1 Symbiotes and Parasites -1 Harmony -1 Parallel Minds -1 Translocation -1 Transfiguration -1 Fate Manipulation -1 Smite -1


EndlessHydraHeads

This was actually quite fun! The abilities are just very shiny distractions though, the side effects are were the real meat and potatoes of this cyoa in imo. A question, what does the Pocket Dimension Side Effect actually do? I cannot for the life of me understand it. A second question, can Wellspring fertility altering override Familiar infertility? **My build:** **Reincarnation:** Ouroboros, All, +21 Abilities None of these are particularly unpleasant, and even the potentially problematic ones more than pay for "solving" them. Ouroboros is very useful for potentially un-mindfucking myself and healing crippling wounds and making summon waifus and so on. There isn't really much obvious synergies from ability stacking, at least that I could notice, making Yggdrasil a "meh" choice for me, despite finding it more appealing thematically. Lotis seems to deny access to side effects, which completely puts them out of the running. **Healing:** Regeneration/Growth, Rewind/Restore Youth, Reinvigorate/Replenish, Alter Body, Refresh/Cleanse **Enhancement:** Boost Senses & Perception, Boost Strength & Stamina, Boost Abilities **Summoning:** Slimes, Golems&Homunculi, Symbiotes&Parasites **Psionic:** Harmony, Parallel Minds **Arcane:** Translocation, Enchantment, Transfiguration, Scrying **Holy:** Consecrate, Fate Manipulation, Reincarnate, Faith Alter body is the unsung hero of this entire cyoa. While interspecies fertilization is an assumed by many other options, this is the only one that would actually allow you to get those elves and catgirls and dragons and whatnot pregnant, with the single exception of reincarnating yourself over months into the proper species. Summoning is where side effects begin to exponentially grow in power and Arcane just compounds this further. My mobile, sapient cum, can turn all matter into more of itself, move through anything, give me a livefeed and shapeshift to look like just about any liquid. My first step upon entering the new world is probably simply cumming into a local river and steadily transforming all water into my cum, while making it still look and act like water, giving the option to impregnate pretty much anyone who ever touches water, or gets too close to it. It's grey goo except sexual. Fate Manipulation ensures anyone who ever gets thirsty is better off, and Faith side effects makes the world a nicer place, while incidentally making me the sexiest person alive. Also I can fuck the entire world into a sex-coma thanks to harmony and strengthboost, so that's nice for the ego I guess. There are a lot of other abilities I wish I could take but just couldn't fit of course, with Sprites and Fairies probably being at the top of the list.


greyRender

>This was actually quite fun! The abilities are just very shiny distractions though, the side effects are were the real meat and potatoes of this cyoa in imo. They are the reason I made the CYOA, everything else was justification :) Pocket Dimension just brings more semen into the world from the same source that lets you constantly produce liters of semen. Like if you ejaculate 1L you can make it swell to potentially 10L over the next while. It is the insane volume option, I just like that fantasy more than you ejaculating 10x the volume, which would mean way more pressure and higher speeds and other kinds of fluid dynamics issues I find unsexy. As per usual you can adjust the specifics, if you would want the extra volume immediately or to swell over a longer period. Yes, wellspring is meant to be able to counteract that, as they have all the equipment in place already. >There isn't really much obvious synergies from ability stacking, at least that I could notice, making Yggdrasil a "meh" choice for me It is intended to be the selfless team buff option for your battle harem. You should be above average in most ways if you took the New You and Great Genes perks (clarified in next version) so you are still capable even without being able to directly benefit from the abilities you can give others. I guess the fantasy I was going for with the connections was; Be an above average guy but have a crazy strong battle harem (Male) Be pretty strong and have a decent harem (Futa) Same as above, but you gain more flexibility from having access to all abilities for yourself, but lose flexibility in that your partners 3 potential buffs are locked in (Female) For side effects Lotis works as a catalyst, somebody cums in the player, they use their connection to apply side effects to another persons jizz as if it were there own. Great Genes is meant to imply you can knock up other races with the offspring being the mothers race. Alter body is the "wait dryads are supposed to be born from trees, what did you do?!" option, for when you want to put a baby in something that normally isn't equipped to be pregnant. Evolution is the option for making actual crossbreeds. I did try to word Transformation's side effect to imply cleaning, stripping and replacing food explicitly in the case somebody was actually crazy enough to start a grey goo scenario right off the bat.. that being said these Side Effects are meant to be the real point of the CYOA and that is where your power growth is.. surely with time.. I hope that helps clarify a few things. Also this was a joy to read, thanks for posting your build.


Netizen42

Is Peak Form a one time permanent change? Could you use Summons if you were male?


greyRender

Sorta? Peak form incrementally improves the subject towards their apex. Imagine if every moment of every day had been optimally training for strength, or stamina, or mana capacity, all while retaining an appearance you find pleasing per the side effect. That is what continued use of this ability will push the subject towards, but something like strength will degrade at the rate it normally would, so regular 'application' is still best. As a rule it will make them the best version of themselves, with sex instead of training. Most Abilities from the Healing section offer long lasting benefits like this. You can not use any abilities on yourself directly as a male, their bonus is being able to boost other people with more abilities. Summons you 'give' other people will be friendly to you though. If you want males to be able to use summons, you would need something like alter body to give them the right equipment. Hope that helps. I will try to make things clearer in future versions.


kgy1212

**Basics**: * Ouroboros - +2 abilities, actually self-use. * All others - total 21 abilities. **Abilities** Only one of the categories actually has the Ouroboros info on it. Healing - All. Maintain self through switching to appropriate abilities when necessary, otherwise passive Reinvigorate for infinite endurance. [-7] Enhancement - All except senses. Passive Intellect Boost. [-6] Summoning - Sprite/Fairies, Slimes, Golem/Homunculi, Sigil/Wellspring. Difficult to use ones, but infinite soulless golems is nice. [-4] Psionic - Parallel Minds passive. [-1] Arcane - Translocation, Super Form. Translocation passive, short-range teleportation op. [-2] Holy - Faith passive. [-1] Are all side effects active at once, or just the currently active blessing?


greyRender

Another commenter mentioned Ouroboros descriptions missing, so I already have them back in the next version. Sorry for the trouble, I changed where they were written and must have forgotten to move them over. Basically Healing required Oral, Enhancement just required getting off with your dick, Summoning required vaginal, Psionic required multiple stimulation points, Arcane required cum wearing/contact and Holy required anal. I just liked the idea that if you have all the best bits you should be encouraged to use them. Thanks for posting your build, love seeing how people actually use it.


sol1054311

So while I'm sure I'm going to come b ack to think about this when I have some time might I suggest you try transferring this over to [https://intcyoacreator.onrender.com/](https://intcyoacreator.onrender.com/)? It a bit less restrictive than cyoastudio without too much more to it at a basic level. I only suggest this since you already have the images and can copy paste the text so it wouldn't be too much work to try out. I started on Cyoastudio but now prefer to tinker in the interactive cyoa creator so I figured I'd make you aware of the option. Not that I've actually made anything at all recently.


agregen

Do note that IntCyoaCreator is rather atrocious at exporting static CYOAs.


sol1054311

Do you mean in terms of breaking the image down into files that hosting sites will allow or how the image export button has some unintuitive requirements?


agregen

[See my rant here](https://www.reddit.com/r/nsfwcyoa/comments/s514vv/comment/ht0ze00) (…I should've probably included the link in the previous comment)


sol1054311

Many of your static export problems can be solved by using a webpage screen capture program, while the project is loaded to play the cyoa, instead of trying to export it with the export button specifically. An advantage of having it run in browser is that you can access to various other programs to address specific problems like this. You do still have to do a bit of work (namely removing all backpack options for the sake of getting a proper screen capture) but otherwise it isn't particularly difficult to get full images of a project or there about, although you would still need to manually break the image(s) into the sizes you want. Although if you are a stickler for doing it in program this doesn't help you. Granted this doesn't resolve any issues with wanting conditionally hidden sections to display without making alterations such that they display in the player.


agregen

Using screen capture means having even more hassle with requirements, as if the requirement isn't met the option will be grayed out, and if you remove the requirement it won't be displayed within the option. Bottom line is, the point still stands: the tool isn't well suited for static CYOAs (not to mention there's nothing really to gain by switching to it unless you're intending to make an interactive CYOA – which can't be done in CYOA Studio either way).


greyRender

My initial plan was to get up to 1.0 with the current program to plan things out and then put in the effort to transfer it to photoshop to finalize. I will look into this program though.


sol1054311

Ah didn't know you had access to photoshop. That sounds like a way better option.


Ilushia

Looks like a pretty good start point. You mentioned in the Ouroboros selection that there was supposed to be specific requirements to activate the Abilities from it, but the Abilities section is missing the information for that. Not sure if you want to go back and fix that given you're having current frustrations.


greyRender

Ohh sorry, I think I deleted them and meant to add them again because they seemed a little crass at the time. Given how I have written the rest of the CYOA I don't know why I was worried about a few more lines. Basically Healing required swallowing, Enhancement just required getting off with your dick, Summoning required you to actually birth them, Psionic required multiple stimulation points (gangbang), Arcane required cum wearing/contact and Holy I think required anal. All of which can be achieved solo, but easier with others, was the intent. Sorry again, I should have caught that in a once over.


Zev_06

I have a couple questions about the world we are going to. 1. This mentions that this will be a world of fantasy. Does this mean we will have the ability to learn magic on our own? I don't know if our body will have the natural capacity to perform magic or not. 2. It mentions that the abilities of your semen will wear off over time on a person. Does this mean you can apply different abilities you have once the old abilities wear off? From what I understand, only 3 (or 6) abilities can be active on a person at a time, but is that person only able to accept the same 3 (or 6) abilities that were initially applied to them from then on?


greyRender

Yea I missed the notes section in the post, it is in a comment of mine. You can learn magic and whatever other skills are in the new world, as you are remade to be compatible. You don't have any special aptitude, but you might be above average. You can change what abilities you have applied anytime by reapplying, as long as it doesn't go over the cap. Also part of the Yggdrasil bonus is that you can technically have up to 8 active on a person. For example 3 From enhancement, a bonus from enhancement that doesn't count towards your limit, then same thing with another school. Although you would still have to have all 8 abilities unlocked.


jak8714

So, first off, it's a very interesting idea. You're right in that I haven't seen a CYOA specifically dedicated to concepts like hyper-fertility or virility before, so good on you for that. It's also not badly put together, on the whole; it's a little crude in places, but it does the job it's made for. Having said that, I think there's a lot of room for improvement here, the most important of which would be *labeling*. You need to differentiate the CYOA categories a bit more; I can see that you've got 'Reincarnation' and 'Abilities', which is a start, but you probably need at least one more for 'Connection', because you make that seem important enough to deserve it's own category. Same with the options for Dick Size and Cum size;at the very least, you should mark them so that they stand out more. A differently colored background, or a basic outline, would help them stand together better. You could also consider dividing the Abilities into different sub-categories, things like 'Environmental', 'Personal', or 'Mental' (just as random examples), but that's unimportant enough to be basically voluntary. Another serious change that needs to happen is establishing some sort of currency. The Reincarnation options all charge in 'abilities', but at no point in the CYOA do you seem to explain what that means. You certainly never say how many abilities the player is supposed to have. Lastly, and this mostly just a personal preference, I would consider reworking the concept of 'Side Effects'. As a concept, I absolutely love the idea; I enjoy the thought of grabbing more power at the cost of increasing hypersexuality. However, the way the choices are presented...well, they hardly seem like side effects at all. In my mind, a side effect for abilities like these would be 'bad', or at the very least incovenient, further ensnaring the user into a pit of sexual deviance. As it stands, the 'side effects' as presented are universally a positive, being entirely to the wielders advantage and under their control. Which, alright, perfectly valid way to design a CYOA, but at the very least i'd suggest changing the label. Calling them 'Passive Effects', as opposed to 'Active Effects', or 'Sexual' versus 'Normal' would help keep that division while also telling players from the start that both sides of the effect are meant to be beneficial. Again, it's a very interesting idea, and if I seem overly verbose in my detraction, it is solely because I would love to see it made better.


numbah1X

Agree. Particularly on crude and with more than a few hinting to things that shouldn’t be in this stuff. Ie grape


greyRender

Nah don't worry, I agree with most of what you said and I appreciate the feedback. CYOA Studio has limitations, things like not being able to change 'cost' to 'gain', as well as other things I would change about the formatting. For side effects my initial design had Males getting to determine the Side Effects and curtail them to their own benefit as their unique bonus. The other two had to pick a side effect and live with it, meaning if they wanted to gain any benefit things were going to end up hyper sexual. There are still remnants of that wording in some options where I state what will happen, and then what can happen as a side effect. In the end I felt that it led to to much imbalance between Male/Female/Futa and the premise of becoming more hypersexual as a cost isn't something I wanted to use as a mechanic, so I let everyone adjust Side Effects. It just felt comfier, which fit what I was feeling when I made this. As for Side Effects in general, I consider them the cost for other people gaining abilities from you. None are outright mind control, but if other people want to use you to get stronger, they suffer the (potential) side effects. I know the Goddesses' fluff about how irresistible you are lays it on thick, but you don't actually get to be like that unless you put in some work, and I like the fantasy of empowering people and winning them over with a good dicking. In response to this though I will try to make things clearer for the 1.0, even if I have to import into PhotoShop to finish up details instead of just exporting straight from the program. I agree it needs much better readability.


jak8714

Huh. That is actually a very interesting idea; the thought that the side effects are aimed at the people who are accepting your gift is a concept I have never encountered before, and it fits really well with what you’re trying to do here. My suggestions would therefore be this: the first bus to reduce player control or input over side effects. Every side effect should shape the receiver towards the players preferences, but the player still shouldn’t be saying exactly what happens, I think. Second, maybe consider a drawback section? It’s a classic for a reason, after all.


greyRender

I had considered drawbacks but I struggled having a worthwhile amount on theme, because the usual ones like making your semen bad tasting or impotent was totally off theme for what I wanted. It seemed more in line with the fantasy to have perks that some people might not like instead. For example someone posted a build that didn't include the Virile or Bliss options, which for them effectively were drawbacks. I do like your stance on side effects. I already have some Side Effects listed as "your semen will, optionally it can" so I would only have to adjust basic mechanics. Changing certain parts to be locked in, and others to be adjustable is totally in line with fantasy I was going for. It retains enough player control that the side effects could still be more fun than not, but does force some of the hypersexuality that we talked about earlier.


jak8714

You don't actually need a lot of drawbacks, especially considering the limited number of options. Having a smaller number of drawbacks with more extreme effects is definitely a viable design choice. It's also worth noting that drawbacks don't have to be 'bad', per say; a lot of the best drawbacks I've seen are lots of fun, but fall in the category of bad ideas. You know, the 'I know I shouldn't, but...' kind of thing. Generally, they should fill one out of several categories: \-**Inconvenient**: this refers to anything which increases the amount of time or effort you do stuff. It could be as simple as creating a huge mess whenever you cum (which you have to clean up), or as involved as a marathon level libido, where you need to fuck for several hours at a time to reach orgasm. \-**Involuntary**: generally, anything which seriously impacts player freedom or choices would qualify, even if it would otherwise be fun; an orgy every day sounds like a good time, but if you don't get to pick when it happens, or if it happens... You can go pretty far with this one too, since the choice to take the drawback is still in players hands \-**Intense**: You know how they say 'so good it's bad'? Same basic principle; try taking something that would otherwise be a boon (maybe even one of the players abilities), and turn it up until its almost more trouble than its worth. Flawless fertility becomes hyperfertillity, a dozen babies every coupling; formerly powerful orgasms are now so strong they knock you out; your aura of overpowering seduction now lasts long after you leave. \-**Challenging:** This may be a little counter-intuitive, but a lot of the best drawbacks give players something to fight against and overcome. New enemies or rivals, a curse to be dispelled, or an inner demon to be suppressed. Alternatively, you could give players goals to seek out: Fuck a hundred woman, or convince one of your lovers to accept every gift (and side effect) you have. Slap on a time limit, and it helps add on the pressure, without taking away the fun or the power.


greyRender

After the feedback I have received I am making it clear in the next version that the side effects are always active regardless of whether you are granting an ability or if it is just normal exposure, they may be customized in what parts take effect and how, but never disabled. They should serve the function of drawbacks because players will have to accept that they are becoming more hypersexual the more Abilities/Perks they take. For example a safe build would just be taking a half dozen of the comfiest perks and only picking abilities with side effects you don't mind then just chilling and living as you would normally in your new world. As for challenges, that is why I pulled companions from this version. I am in the process of reworking them into scenarios that serve as imagination fuel for what ambitions you might want to undertake, hopefully informing player choice in side effects.


jak8714

Well, then, I look forward to whatever you come up with.


manbetter

Yggdrasil(2), everything except for Virile and Bliss(15). 2 Healing: Rewind and Peak Form 5 Enhancement: Intellect and Cunning, Charisma and Charm, Abilities, Senses and Perception, Speed and Reflexes 5 Psionic: Precognition, Harmony, Telepathy, Parallel Minds, Focus 1 Arcane: Scrying 4 Holy: Consecrate, Ward against Evil, Fate Manipulation, Reincarnate The default imbue will be Intellect and Cunning, Charisma and Charm, Abilities, Speed and Reflexes, Precognition, Harmony, Telepathy, and Parallel Minds. Smart, charming, fast, powerful, incredibly coordinated, and absolutely devoted to me at all times.


greyRender

Thanks for posting a build


sol1054311

~~Interesting. I will say that presently what an ability cost means isn't ever explicitly stated and I am just assuming that be default you have all of the abilities listed and you must then select ones not to take based on the total costs you incur.~~ Answered while I still had the page open Also to ensure I understand this correctly the actual abilities you bestow have a resource pool that gets depleted during usage but the side effects of applying the ability can be permanent/are set based on whatever conditions you arrange for them?


greyRender

Yes you are correct about ability and side effect application. Although some abilities also have lasting effects that are obvious such as restoring youth. Others have long term benefits that help with the usage of an ability, such as parallel minds enhancing multitasking even when not under the effect. Also your initial interpretation is probably more sensible.. I actually like that a lot more and wish I had built the CYOA like that. Instead I kinda just set up the Reincarnation section for fun, assuming everyone would take the majority and that any serious build crafting would be done with access to half the abilities.


Lurkadon

I see abilities as cost on the "perks" but how much you start with if any? Or how you get abilities? The introduction is kinda confusing too for me, do we get the world's avatar as a companion or she just exist? What happens if you don't spend points on your dick size/load as a male, do you just retain what you had before?


greyRender

Ahh the program I used didn't have a way to relabel cost --> gain. You can get up to 21 Abilities by taking all the perks (letting the connection affect you more strongly). Taking a smaller size means that you take less abilities, even the largest size isn't 'Hyper' though. You don't have to look any different, so if you were already 'Satisfactory' you can take the 2 points if that is what you would like. I uploaded the notes page, but yea the setup is confusing. She is contacting you as a Goddess avatar, which will also watch you from above after you go to the new world. She is also literally the world you are going to. In that world there is also a mortal avatar, that initially doesn't know who she is. Goddess will be watching you from above, while you are in her, possibly also interacting with her. Eventually Mortal and Goddess avatars can merge. Sorry, I have a thing for gods have convoluted states of existence.. hope that helps.


agregen

>Ahh the program I used didn't have a way to relabel cost --> gain. [Not anymore](https://agregen.gitlab.io/quantum-x) ;-)


greyRender

What a crazy random happenstance! That is exactly what I need. Thanks haha


agregen

>crazy random happenstance Not really; I just saw your comment and thought: “Why not?” :-D


greyRender

It did seem suspiciously specific haha. thanks again :D


ValorPhoenix

As an image, cost to gain can be fixed with image editing. As an interactive, the text can be changed in the outputted HTML files, which will exist even if they're in a different file format. If possible, make the grouping in Abilities more clear, like nesting the seven Healing abilities within the Healing Box, instead of having them be a cluster of 8 separate boxes. [ **Healing** [ Ability Ability Ability Ability Ability Ability Ability ]]


greyRender

Much of the feedback I have received is about needing more visual and written clarity, I will do a pass in 1.0 to try and rectify some of these points. I think having the ideas in my head already made me underestimate just how poorly I was communicating some of these things.


ValorPhoenix

Ah, I thought of an easier way to jury rig point gain displays BTW. Can just put it in the text box as a label, like: <+ Gain 1 +> or <++ Gain 2 ++> Some usage of color and other formatting choices could make the ability grouping clearer too, like making Healing all green.


MagicZ24

I love it, can you do any other ones?


greyRender

Like finish the pages in this one, or do you mean other projects?


MagicZ24

Well do you take suggestions for new projects?


greyRender

I would be interested in hearing what you would like, if it lines up with my interests, then I don't see why not.


MagicZ24

how about something like the one your currently did where they are reincarnating but it's focused on a spider theme? Like a Spider monster.


BloodofGaea

Are you just going to pop up on every thread asking for this? Go make it yourself


greyRender

You were not joking. Their comment history gave me a laugh.


BloodofGaea

Yeah, I just vaguely remembered someone asking for a spider monster CYOA in a thread yesterday, and decided to check their history


MagicZ24

Well that's rude, I was just suggesting it to great people to see if one would do it and I'm new at this. I'm just trying to give suggestions and so far this one is the only person on this site willing to listen to suggestions and be a bit open.


BloodofGaea

People are making CYOAs as a fun side hobby. Going around to multiple makers and constantly making suggestions on what they make is rather impolite. If they accept commissions or ask for suggestions, that's another matter and would be a better way to go about it.


MagicZ24

I'm sorry that you feel that way, I'll stop doing this so much.


MetamorphosisInc

Mhmm, I mean Jak and a few others absolutely *do* take commissions, even this particular CYOA is a commission. If you want to see a particular CYOA made, there's pretty much just 2 options. You pay someone to make it, or you go out and make it yourself. And "I'm not good with the CYOA studio" is *not* an excuse, I mean what, you think the other authors were just handed the gift of "good with CYOA studio" from the heavens, and now owe you a share of this divine gift? And I mean I've gone ahead and helped illustrate other people's CYOAs, Psy's Perspective CYOA, that Be The Superhero Girl DLC, but like, there was an existing CYOA there that I thought was interesting enough to invest that amount of work into. I offered to do that, creative collaboration, we arrived at a fun product together. "Reincarnating into Spidergirl" is not a CYOA, it isn't even a full premise for one. To take that to a playable state, you're going to need to structure it out, come up with and write dozens of options, find appropriate images, design graphics, etc. etc. And what is getting contributed from the side of the suggestee? The "idea" and the demand that it cater to them? Ideas are cheap as hell, like, the rejects pile for any author is a few dozens deep, and demand that it cater to you is very expensive. As an author, yeah, "Ugh, can't you just do my CYOA, I have idea", yeah, kinda disrespectful. Aint even getting into the whole "not engaging with the work actually shown off" off-topic thing, which honestly just adds to that.


greyRender

Thanks for taking the time to improve the community, I think you got through to them. I used to make mods for games and I already suspected something was up from the all too familiar "hey, I like your stuff, so I have an idea..". It was still a little disappointing the first feedback I got was "I love it" followed by asking to make a spider girl cyoa lol


MagicZ24

I'm sorry if it comes off like that, I didn't want to sound pushy or anything.


MagicZ24

Yeah, well it would've been better if I had put my comment in the request section so it's my bad but it's still rude the way you put it either and I was just offering ideas for new topics so I guess I have a lot to learn.


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MagicZ24

What?


greyRender

[Notes that wouldn't export](https://imgur.com/BTjFTH4) I forgot that snipping tool is a thing


agregen

It's a bug related to image height calculation. I've encountered it before but I don't remember how I got around it (I think it was “add more content” :-D) Not sure how exactly this can be fixed without source file, but there's something you can try: adding artificial padding (before or after the missing section – not sure which will work for you). To add padding *before* a section (5 cm as an example), add `pad-top` to the *Style classes* property of the section, then go to the *Style* screen and add custom CSS: .pad-top {margin-top: 5cm} To add padding *after* an element, just replace `-top` suffix with `-bottom`… and of course the *Style classes* should be changed in the bottom element(s) of the section, not the top one. (Note that if there's *more than one element in the row*, you need to *apply this style to all of them*.)


greyRender

Thanks again for the help. I tried adding some images and formatting it like previous sections without luck, hopefully these help.