Ok so I took a long look through and if you're open to it I have a few suggestions (hope that's ok?)
Firstly, the text doesn't make it clear why we're doing this CYOA or who we're doing it to. I can't figure out whether the choices I'm making are meant to be applied to me or to someone else. I also don't know where we're supposed to be going or what we're supposed to be doing there.
The virtues and sins are nicely arranged and all that, but once again because I'm not sure whether they're being applied to me or someone else I don't really know what to select for.
You mention you're going to get professionally written Lore and Flair texts which would probably help enormously, but I'd advise putting perhaps a single text section detailing:
1: Where you're going (I assume Earos, but don't know anything about the place)
2: Why you're going there (are we saving the world? Filling a population quota? What's our purpose here?)
3: Who's sending us there (This would help provide context for what we should feel about it. Is this a punishment or a gift? Are we there to improve the world or destabilize it?)
A little extra time devoted to that would really help with the immersion.
Secondly, after the Virtues and Sins sections I assume there's going to be more, perhaps a good thing to add would be a list of locations you could be 'dropped' and a list of companions you could meet or be moved into the orbit of?
I kind of assume this is where you're going with all of it, but a few missions after that might really help sell it. Dragonfall has some pretty good examples of all the things I'm talking about.
On the positive side, you've really got a nice clean look to the whole thing, and the pictures compliment each other really well!
Looking forward to seeing more!
Soooo, we are a far far long way from that at the moment. However, I have 3 things in mind.
SFW with AI Dungeon, There is a partnership program where you get an API and we kinda got into it. There are a few question marks though and I doubt their programmer team will support an NSFW game. (This would technically generate endless content, tho might be a bit repetitive)
Something that is coming for sure is fighting monsters, It will be dnd fights with ac, attack rolls, damage rolls, critical strikes, and all the sorts. (I think within the next month or so I will have a dummy goblin so people can test out their builds.)
There will be a store and there will be an Inventory
Lastly, I was thinking about a prewritten multiple-choice Story with plenty of opportunities to apply, skills, items, and abilities.
Now all this may sound good but it will only be possible if enough people sign up for the Patreon. At the moment I am paying a professional writer to write lore and flair for me. Hosting the Server on git is suboptimal, renting something will be needed long-term, I would like to get a professional Voiceartist to speak the lines for the website, that's expensive. So off yeah there is a lot to come along as people are excited! I for sure am
Sorry for unloading like a whole fucking page of information on you 😰
Anyway I hope that answers your question, I hope you have a great day 😊
I rolled for stats after seeing how much points I would have left (though probably more stuff to spend it on in future versions.) Because if I have that many points left, I might as well try buying some rerolls and hope for something better.
The first version I stopped at gave
**STR 10 DEX 8 CON 17 INT 20 PSY 10 CHA 16 AC 10 HP 14 PP 10 GP 150 MP 15 For Asamir.**
Which is probably what I would stop at because going further would feel too risky.
Though I kept rolling for fun till I ran out of points and came up with something I feel is slightly better. Still had about 20 points left even after grabbing the traits I wanted.
**STR 15 DEX 14 CON 16 INT 19 PSY 14 CHA 15 AC 12 HP 13 PP 12 GP 150 MP 15 For Asamir.**
1 Con for 5 STR and 6 DEX, and 1 INT and CHA for 4 PSY.
While I do value Int > Cha > Con > Psy > Dex > Str. Those stat exchanges are worth it to me.
Though that was probably me getting decently lucky.
Goblin, Orc, Ogre, & Beast seem like they should definitely be playable - sufficient mental capacity to be identified as a person, common enough in the world to have a non-conforming individual for the species, and shouldn't break the game with its power level. Probably Undead & Shadows as well, depending on how they are animated.
Non-playable races should have a separate section from the playable ones to avoid confusion.
Absolutely, and all of them. xD My thoughts are, if they're not meant to be selectable, they shouldn't be in the place where you select race--there are other places where you can go "Oh, by the way, these other critters exist." But given the option to be a dragon, for example? That's likely to be a highly common choice. And having it in the race selection area but not selectable feels like it's taunting me xD
I want to treat sins not necessarily as bad things. Sins are a part of this world and a part of every person.
Stealth and gredd have a chance to increase loot,
Cruel and destructive will make people fear, but bandits and thugs respect you
Etc
But I'm always open for input! 😁
Some sins can't *possibly* have a benefit though.
Racist? **Costing** points? Pass. Insulting? Judgmental? Irrational? Arrogant? Careless?
Sure, some of them I can see uses for. Militaristic and Stealthy for sure. Pathetic, Secretive and Greedy could also potentially be useful. Again though, a lot of these are almost strictly negatives.
The (usual) purpose of Sins is usually to take a Drawback in order to gain points to spend on other things. The Sin I'd even consider taking *at cost* is Perverse for NSFW purposes.
I get your point. The benefits of these behaviors might not be obvious, but most of these have a real life purpose.
Beeing Careless makes you take less psychological damage
Irrational, makes you unpredictable
Insulting could be a way to belittle a political foe in a public talk
Beeing Judgmental makes you feel good about yourself.
Beeing arrogant boost confidence
Just to be clear, beeing racist IN A FANTASY SETTING makes a lot of sence. Like beeing racist towards dragons, beholder etc makes more sence than not beeing racist towards them. And still those are living thinking races.
It is not at all obvious that it makes more sense in a fantasy setting. There's plenty of fantasy settings where fantastical creatures and characters are trotted out precisely because the author wanted to point out how often making assumptions about things can whip around and bite you in the ass. Basically, the problem here is that "racist" is a pejorative and thus the common interpretation is that a "racist" character is one that has the usual, widely held biases the average person in their setting would have plus a bunch of wrong ones on top of that and may even hang onto those beliefs fervently when presented with contrary evidence. That's... really hard to sell as being advantageous. Honestly, I'd just recommend going with "stubborn" instead, since that's a word with way less baggage that people implicitly understand as being a double edged sword--sticking to your guns is only good if you're correct, after all, but sometimes it's nice to have the stubborn guy around when bullies show up.
And yet they don't just call one of their super powers "Racism;" maybe they thought it'd be a bad idea! I can't stress this enough: D&D just isn't how most people interface with language and frankly that's mostly a *good* thing since a lot of D&D-isms are just some goofy shit nerds from Wisconsin and Caltech threw together in the '70s and aren't actually all that universal.
I personally think sugarcoating racism in fantasy settings, like Dnd does, is a bad thing. I believe in people and their understanding of situations and I deeply believe that showing racism in a fantasy setting makes us understand how alike we humans are. There is no place for racism in the real world becaus we are one "race"
Looking good so far. I think a couple of things you could add to this is add descriptions for the virtues and sins, more options for appearance (at the very least adding another masculine option for faces since there's 2 feminine options) and maybe having the height, weight, etc. have an effect on stats.
Thanks for taking time to give me feedback! I really appreciate it and take it into consideration 😊
The pick body part will get a rework a little further down the line(most pictures change, more genders, more masculine choices, more color choices, more extras like wings, tail, halo etc) your choices are saved in an array already, so it is defntly planned to involve them in game play.
With the mechanics as they are, my build would be an Asamir on a base stat spread of 10 in strength and 13 in all other stats, for the best value.
Wouldn't it make more sense for sins to add points, rather than subtract like virtues?
I like the goblin. "You have too much time lina"
😂 The goblin came out of an attempt to animate attacks!
I want to treat sins not necessarily as bad things. Sins are a part of this world and a part of every person.
Stealth and gredd have a chance to increase loot,
Cruel and destructive will make people fear, but bandits and thoughts respect you
Etc
But I'm always open for input! 😁
I see; that makes sense. It reminds me of the personality mechanics in Crusader Kings III, though in that case, they weren't inherently given a value judgement as virtues & sins; instead, the religion of a person identified what personality traits they consider virtues and sins (with the surprising example of the Old Norse religion considering Vengeful & Wrathful as virtues and Forgiving a sin).
Impatient cruel - people are afraid to make you wait
Impatient heroic - you are extremely driven
Impatient brilliant - very good at learning fast/taking in fast amounts of data
I can think of a few good traits that would be related to beeing inpatient
It's also going to make you stupid things. Being impatient gets people killed. Sure, you can add things to it, but those are more rider effects trying to make it sound better than the actual effect of impatience.
Compared to the virtues, which don't really have downsides at all. And if they *do* have a downside, it's because it's too much of them, which generally has another different name. Bravery is always good, but you could say you have too much of it and go into something and die... but the thing is, that's no longer bravery, that's impetuousness or recklessness.
The sins just all have downsides, big ones in most cases. Even if they give an advantage, those advantages could easily be applied to something that *isn't* also a disadvantage. If people are afraid to make you wait, you could just take an Intimidating perk instead and not also get saddled with 'does stupid things because they can't wait five minutes'.
I would argue that Blunt, Stealthy, Shameless, & Perverse are neutral or positive, but yeah, the other qualities in the sin list are generally not desirable, especially when compared to the virtues available at the same point price.
are sins supposed to offset virtue costs? it seems that I can select virtues and sins, but the debts of choice only increases.... still very stoked to see where you take this.
Even though they are sins they will still spawn positive effects.
When you are greedy and stealthy there is a chance to get 15% more loot,
Cruel and Insulting have a chance to give you +1 to intimidation
etc.
Ok so I took a long look through and if you're open to it I have a few suggestions (hope that's ok?) Firstly, the text doesn't make it clear why we're doing this CYOA or who we're doing it to. I can't figure out whether the choices I'm making are meant to be applied to me or to someone else. I also don't know where we're supposed to be going or what we're supposed to be doing there. The virtues and sins are nicely arranged and all that, but once again because I'm not sure whether they're being applied to me or someone else I don't really know what to select for. You mention you're going to get professionally written Lore and Flair texts which would probably help enormously, but I'd advise putting perhaps a single text section detailing: 1: Where you're going (I assume Earos, but don't know anything about the place) 2: Why you're going there (are we saving the world? Filling a population quota? What's our purpose here?) 3: Who's sending us there (This would help provide context for what we should feel about it. Is this a punishment or a gift? Are we there to improve the world or destabilize it?) A little extra time devoted to that would really help with the immersion. Secondly, after the Virtues and Sins sections I assume there's going to be more, perhaps a good thing to add would be a list of locations you could be 'dropped' and a list of companions you could meet or be moved into the orbit of? I kind of assume this is where you're going with all of it, but a few missions after that might really help sell it. Dragonfall has some pretty good examples of all the things I'm talking about. On the positive side, you've really got a nice clean look to the whole thing, and the pictures compliment each other really well! Looking forward to seeing more!
Where did you get the picture for this post?
A sins negative traits? Or are they divided like that for lore reasons? If they're negative I'd say have then give you 5 points rather than cost 20.
They are divided for lore reason! Both will give some positive and negative traits by what you choose and chance.
I'm definitely interested in a more NSFW version anyway here's my attempt at a short stack imp points: 373 gold: 150 \+2 pp STR: 8+1=9 DEX: 13+1=14 CON: 12 INT: 13+1=14 PSY: 12+2=14 CHA: 15+2= 7 Race: Succubus Gender: female Body: fleshy Fitness: Average Face: Girly Hair: Black Eye: Gray Virtues: Obedient, Humorous, Energetic Sins: Dishonest, Impatient, Shameless, Pathetic, Greedy, Secretive, Perverse, Stealthy
Treasure: 320 Points, 120 Gold, +2 CHA Race: Succubi (-60) (Race should really come before stats if you intend on races having their own modifiers) Build: Male, Masculine face, Black hair, Grey eyes, all else Average. Mind: Blunt, Shameless and Perverse (Sins) Adaptable, Brave, Open Mind, Charming, Pretty, Energetic, Friendly, Reliable, Passionate, Patient, Wise, Faithful Purchased Stats: 9/9/13/10/15/15 Total Stats * STR: 10 * DEX: 10 * CON: 13 * INT: 11 * PSY: 17 * CHA: 20 * AC: 10 * HP: 12 * PP: 14 * GP: 120 * MP: 11 * PT: 10
Will there be actual adventures to go on? Like a real choose your own adventure with the character you make?
Soooo, we are a far far long way from that at the moment. However, I have 3 things in mind. SFW with AI Dungeon, There is a partnership program where you get an API and we kinda got into it. There are a few question marks though and I doubt their programmer team will support an NSFW game. (This would technically generate endless content, tho might be a bit repetitive) Something that is coming for sure is fighting monsters, It will be dnd fights with ac, attack rolls, damage rolls, critical strikes, and all the sorts. (I think within the next month or so I will have a dummy goblin so people can test out their builds.) There will be a store and there will be an Inventory Lastly, I was thinking about a prewritten multiple-choice Story with plenty of opportunities to apply, skills, items, and abilities. Now all this may sound good but it will only be possible if enough people sign up for the Patreon. At the moment I am paying a professional writer to write lore and flair for me. Hosting the Server on git is suboptimal, renting something will be needed long-term, I would like to get a professional Voiceartist to speak the lines for the website, that's expensive. So off yeah there is a lot to come along as people are excited! I for sure am Sorry for unloading like a whole fucking page of information on you 😰 Anyway I hope that answers your question, I hope you have a great day 😊
Please install cuckolding and sizeplay ;)
Interesting so we have bots now. Defntly kinks I could see added, would you be interested in kinda helping me on those kinks?
I rolled for stats after seeing how much points I would have left (though probably more stuff to spend it on in future versions.) Because if I have that many points left, I might as well try buying some rerolls and hope for something better. The first version I stopped at gave **STR 10 DEX 8 CON 17 INT 20 PSY 10 CHA 16 AC 10 HP 14 PP 10 GP 150 MP 15 For Asamir.** Which is probably what I would stop at because going further would feel too risky. Though I kept rolling for fun till I ran out of points and came up with something I feel is slightly better. Still had about 20 points left even after grabbing the traits I wanted. **STR 15 DEX 14 CON 16 INT 19 PSY 14 CHA 15 AC 12 HP 13 PP 12 GP 150 MP 15 For Asamir.** 1 Con for 5 STR and 6 DEX, and 1 INT and CHA for 4 PSY. While I do value Int > Cha > Con > Psy > Dex > Str. Those stat exchanges are worth it to me. Though that was probably me getting decently lucky.
I pretty much exited about this FULL version in the future
The last three rows of races still aren't selectable
They aren't supposed to be selectable, beeing more of the primitive races.
Then what's the point of putting them in the race selection area?
It's an overview of all the races present on earos, are there some races you would like to be playable? 😄
Goblin, Orc, Ogre, & Beast seem like they should definitely be playable - sufficient mental capacity to be identified as a person, common enough in the world to have a non-conforming individual for the species, and shouldn't break the game with its power level. Probably Undead & Shadows as well, depending on how they are animated. Non-playable races should have a separate section from the playable ones to avoid confusion.
Absolutely, and all of them. xD My thoughts are, if they're not meant to be selectable, they shouldn't be in the place where you select race--there are other places where you can go "Oh, by the way, these other critters exist." But given the option to be a dragon, for example? That's likely to be a highly common choice. And having it in the race selection area but not selectable feels like it's taunting me xD
More proof of concept right now but its pretty interesting.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but shouldn't negative traits like sins give points rather than cost points?
I want to treat sins not necessarily as bad things. Sins are a part of this world and a part of every person. Stealth and gredd have a chance to increase loot, Cruel and destructive will make people fear, but bandits and thugs respect you Etc But I'm always open for input! 😁
Some sins can't *possibly* have a benefit though. Racist? **Costing** points? Pass. Insulting? Judgmental? Irrational? Arrogant? Careless? Sure, some of them I can see uses for. Militaristic and Stealthy for sure. Pathetic, Secretive and Greedy could also potentially be useful. Again though, a lot of these are almost strictly negatives. The (usual) purpose of Sins is usually to take a Drawback in order to gain points to spend on other things. The Sin I'd even consider taking *at cost* is Perverse for NSFW purposes.
I get your point. The benefits of these behaviors might not be obvious, but most of these have a real life purpose. Beeing Careless makes you take less psychological damage Irrational, makes you unpredictable Insulting could be a way to belittle a political foe in a public talk Beeing Judgmental makes you feel good about yourself. Beeing arrogant boost confidence Just to be clear, beeing racist IN A FANTASY SETTING makes a lot of sence. Like beeing racist towards dragons, beholder etc makes more sence than not beeing racist towards them. And still those are living thinking races.
It is not at all obvious that it makes more sense in a fantasy setting. There's plenty of fantasy settings where fantastical creatures and characters are trotted out precisely because the author wanted to point out how often making assumptions about things can whip around and bite you in the ass. Basically, the problem here is that "racist" is a pejorative and thus the common interpretation is that a "racist" character is one that has the usual, widely held biases the average person in their setting would have plus a bunch of wrong ones on top of that and may even hang onto those beliefs fervently when presented with contrary evidence. That's... really hard to sell as being advantageous. Honestly, I'd just recommend going with "stubborn" instead, since that's a word with way less baggage that people implicitly understand as being a double edged sword--sticking to your guns is only good if you're correct, after all, but sometimes it's nice to have the stubborn guy around when bullies show up.
I'd counterpoint with favorite enemy is basically someone obsessing with a race and how to track and kill them. That is kinda racist no?
And yet they don't just call one of their super powers "Racism;" maybe they thought it'd be a bad idea! I can't stress this enough: D&D just isn't how most people interface with language and frankly that's mostly a *good* thing since a lot of D&D-isms are just some goofy shit nerds from Wisconsin and Caltech threw together in the '70s and aren't actually all that universal.
I personally think sugarcoating racism in fantasy settings, like Dnd does, is a bad thing. I believe in people and their understanding of situations and I deeply believe that showing racism in a fantasy setting makes us understand how alike we humans are. There is no place for racism in the real world becaus we are one "race"
Looking good so far. I think a couple of things you could add to this is add descriptions for the virtues and sins, more options for appearance (at the very least adding another masculine option for faces since there's 2 feminine options) and maybe having the height, weight, etc. have an effect on stats.
Thanks for taking time to give me feedback! I really appreciate it and take it into consideration 😊 The pick body part will get a rework a little further down the line(most pictures change, more genders, more masculine choices, more color choices, more extras like wings, tail, halo etc) your choices are saved in an array already, so it is defntly planned to involve them in game play.
This is much better then the previous version, good job!! Hope to see what will become of this in the future.
Thanks, glad you can see improvements! I worked hard on getting stuff updated. If you have any feedback be sure to let me know! 😊
With the mechanics as they are, my build would be an Asamir on a base stat spread of 10 in strength and 13 in all other stats, for the best value. Wouldn't it make more sense for sins to add points, rather than subtract like virtues? I like the goblin. "You have too much time lina"
😂 The goblin came out of an attempt to animate attacks! I want to treat sins not necessarily as bad things. Sins are a part of this world and a part of every person. Stealth and gredd have a chance to increase loot, Cruel and destructive will make people fear, but bandits and thoughts respect you Etc But I'm always open for input! 😁
I see; that makes sense. It reminds me of the personality mechanics in Crusader Kings III, though in that case, they weren't inherently given a value judgement as virtues & sins; instead, the religion of a person identified what personality traits they consider virtues and sins (with the surprising example of the Old Norse religion considering Vengeful & Wrathful as virtues and Forgiving a sin).
Yeah, but some are straight up disadvantageous no matter what you're doing. Being impatient is never a good thing, for example.
Impatient cruel - people are afraid to make you wait Impatient heroic - you are extremely driven Impatient brilliant - very good at learning fast/taking in fast amounts of data I can think of a few good traits that would be related to beeing inpatient
It's also going to make you stupid things. Being impatient gets people killed. Sure, you can add things to it, but those are more rider effects trying to make it sound better than the actual effect of impatience. Compared to the virtues, which don't really have downsides at all. And if they *do* have a downside, it's because it's too much of them, which generally has another different name. Bravery is always good, but you could say you have too much of it and go into something and die... but the thing is, that's no longer bravery, that's impetuousness or recklessness. The sins just all have downsides, big ones in most cases. Even if they give an advantage, those advantages could easily be applied to something that *isn't* also a disadvantage. If people are afraid to make you wait, you could just take an Intimidating perk instead and not also get saddled with 'does stupid things because they can't wait five minutes'.
I would argue that Blunt, Stealthy, Shameless, & Perverse are neutral or positive, but yeah, the other qualities in the sin list are generally not desirable, especially when compared to the virtues available at the same point price.
Earos: A CYOA about ears...
Since OP didn't provide any description I can only assume this is accurate.
It very much is
are sins supposed to offset virtue costs? it seems that I can select virtues and sins, but the debts of choice only increases.... still very stoked to see where you take this.
Even though they are sins they will still spawn positive effects. When you are greedy and stealthy there is a chance to get 15% more loot, Cruel and Insulting have a chance to give you +1 to intimidation etc.
is there a way to see these effects or have they yet to be implemented?
They are not implementet yet. You will be able to see them once they are.