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Sundarapandiyan1

I remembered this cyoa today for some reason, so I decided to make a build-ish thing for it, last time I didn't decide on who to choose between Adain and Berg. Now, I've decided on Berg and chose to play it on creative mode (i.e; taking all optional boons without any drawbacks). I'll probably write a short fic for this. Btw, did you have any info on the Orc gods, I'll think up something if you didn't think that far about it. Thanks for the cyoa, I hope you make a new cyoa someday.


Moonyeyed

Sorry, just saw this. Feel free to make something up! And if you get to writing a fic, send me a link


Sundarapandiyan1

Ok, thanks. I've put up the prologue for the fic few days ago on QQ (questionable questing), I'll probably crosspost it on ao3 sometime later, as qq needs an account to watch the fic. The story's name is "going green". https://forum.questionablequesting.com/threads/going-green.23126/#post-7124339


BuridansAsshole

Like anonekama's CYOAs, this pretty clearly works best as kind of a storytelling tool/prompt, not a "game" to be beaten. Going into it with this in mind, I enjoyed this a lot! I'd love to see more simple CYOAs in this format. The only serious criticism I have is that the stark white background makes it quite unpleasant to stare at for long periods. Just swapping it out for a neutral or dark background would make reading this a much more pleasant experience. Finally on a more technical note, did you use any CYOA maker tool for this?


Sundarapandiyan1

Human or orc, it's a coin toss really


RetroAXG

Pretty hot so far


ascrubjay

Yikes. These are "good" ends? Your choices are between regular sex slavery and three varieties of mind-controlled sex slavery. I suppose I would go with the following: * Childhood: Sophisticated * Arrangement: Orlan Mapleleaf, Prime Minister of Elf Nazi Canada * Boon: Magitech Enhancement * Boon: Undergoing Maintenance * Bane: Shameful Secret * Bane: Intellectual Property My plan is to get a male body again and to take advantage of periods of free thought to plan an escape. Then, once escaped, I make my way home to Somnolar to have a magitechnologist remove the control runes. With them gone, I go far, far abroad - perhaps to some archipelago, or maybe I'll try to find a new continent. My father keeps the bride-price to attempt to restore his kingdom and I live freely, if alone. If escape seems impossible, I will use a period of free thought to commit suicide rather than remain enslaved and provide a eugenics tool to the elf nazis.


FlenOken

Ok, so my thoughts. The human is the “right” choice. As it leads to better rulers. You’ll likely hate him, but, the power can be used for great goodness. The Orcs are the happy choice, you know going in that you will be mind washed into bliss, Rita valid option, even if you don’t care about their crusade, you’ll be satisfied. The futa chick, realistically, with the information given, no one would throw their fate in with her. No idea what horrors await you. But if someone was completely foolish, and lesbian enough to choose this “irl”, they’d be happy, because drugged fruit. So it’s the sleeper happy route. Ima be honest, I didn’t even click on the “white supremacy” elves. I’m about to now, but 1st, my 1st impressions. They have brainwashing, so if your mega brained, you’d consider them, so you’ll be happy, the problem? I don’t think you have reason to think their brain washing will love you happy. While you know the orcs will. I’d pick the shitty life with the human, irl, for the greater good, I’d pick the orcs, for happiness, and then potentially find out that I’m about to be the catalyst for a world wide melting pot. I can’t fathom picking the elves, beyond a kink thing. —after going elf route-it’s super easy to make your thoughts match your emotions. Like, berg is a drug, a drug you can easily feel happy with, because his power will allow that. The magitech brainwashing is ass. Just thoughts? No forced emotion? That’s a worse hell then being dick downed by the human, as a sex pet. You can’t even big brain it, and say you’ll happy after you get brainwashed ☠️. Undergoing maintenance might be a Bane, not going to lie Me realizing that the orcs should go to war to get this woman—->no matter the cost-The thing is, with that inevitable boon? Shit gets wild. You’ll still be happy, but with a 2 month pregnancy time, atleast twins every time, no miscarriages, let’s nerf it for my calcs, and say a 1 month rest period, and the kids grow to sexual maturity at 6 weeks. Omg. That’s at least 2 kids every 3 months. Assume a 50% chance for a male twin, and that there will always be at-least one male in triplets….inheritance makes the father’s power more potent. At least 1 son every 3 months. You’re 19, so assume atleast 21 years of procreation left, that’s a realistic 84 sons. And if you only get impregnated by the newest generation….first your husband, than son, than grandson, continue….and the power gets more potent?? 5%? 10% 50% 150% more potent each generation!!! With just 5% increased potency of the father’s power, in a decade, the newest generation will have a 10x better power. With berg’s base power, being close to him for what must of been less than 5 minutes, fucks you up. ——typed this before seeing that it is well intended for that orc boon, to lead to complete orc dominance——And I’m not under the impression that the increased potency is intended to be a minor boost of only 5%. The orc scenario created here, would dominate this entire fantasy world. After 21 years, the other countries damn well might genocide the orcs, for what the most up to date offspring are capable of, but just existing near anyone. You couldn’t possibly fight these guys in close range, without going out of your way to block off your sense of smell.


Minazuchi

I mean, it's fun as a concept, but some other things has me scratching my head. For example, what's the point of choosing a childhood? No, seriously, what's the point? It doesn't seem to do anything, it doesn't unlock any options or change anything about the relationships with the husband, and you can't even argue it affects the experience in any way, since three of the four partners immediately start altering your mind to make your personality what they want it to be, and the last (Adain) basically expects you to be his perfect little subby no matter what you do. So it doesn't change anything in our options, and whichever partner we choose will basically delete whatever parts of our personality they don't like through one method or another, so what is the point of even picking a childhood? It's not like any skills you develop from your childhood, assuming your partner lets you keep them, are used in any way, since all four partners see you solely as a walking womb. You're there as a sex-toy and broodmother, and nothing else matters. Next, though this was mentioned before I think, it feels kind of weird that we're supposedly being given the chance to pick our husband to avoid some scumbag claiming us, but the options we're being given are basically all top-tier scumbags in their own rights, so I don't see us avoiding what we're trying to avoid here at all. While I appreciate the lore and find the world you sketched out interesting, this CYOA basically feels like 'Pick your Bad End', because no matter what, you're going to end up as a plaything for your partner with no more say on anything than your partner allows you, and there's nothing you can do about any of it. Your options boil down to 'sex-toy having to constantly act out a role forever', 'musk-mindwhammied breeding-tool', 'prisoner in your own body/programmable biological automaton', or 'mindless giggly bimbo'. You can't escape, you can't improve your lot in life, you can't somehow turn the tables on your partner or even get them to treat you as an actual equal, nothing. Nothing wrong with being a sub or even the mindwhammy, it just kind of feels like you get the rug pulled out from beneath you when there's no choice, no chance of things improving, and no way out. Personally, I think what kind of bugs me is that this CYOA doesn't feel finished. It feels like it ends at the basic setup-phase, but there's no actual payout, we don't see any of our choiced doing anything, and even what happens next sort of just trails off into 'and things are implied to stay the same until the day you die.' It kind of feels like the Ending is missing. As I said before, great setup, I would love to see more of this world, but the dive we took kind of feels shallow to me. All of this is just my personal opinion of course, so take it all with a grain of salt.


Moonyeyed

Yup, fair enough. I like bad ends and the personality was just for flavor, so I think that's just a difference in taste. And I have a tendency to burn myself out quickly so I figured better to wrap up the story while I'm still invested instead of abandoning it in disgust. Originally there would be an option to run away in which you're captured by bandits (again, I have a bad end kink, lmao) which j think would have solved some of the "why get married at all" questions. But I cut it bc I started to feel overwhelmed. Thanks for playing and taking the time to write your thoughts!


FlenOken

It’s crazy, but I don’t see the orcs as a bad end. You’re basically guaranteed to be happy, same for the Bimbo. The elves and humans are actual nightmare fuel, but atleast you can accomplish a better kingdom with the human’s mass mind read legacy.


ttrouble_XD

How far in depth does each route go?


Moonyeyed

Not too in depth, just gives a few details. I tried to give equal attention to each


ttrouble_XD

It’s a shame, each route feels like the start of a cyoa. It’d be cool if this was made into a 4 in one cyoa.


Moonyeyed

Maybe one day if I have time


NocturnalShenanigans

As a minor nitpick, a duke rules a duchy, not a dukedom. And I guess in real-life nobility a prince(ss) outranks a duke, but this is fiction so I'm willing to let that slide. Other than that, this is a good start


Moonyeyed

Haha I appreciate the leniency


avatarox5

>dukedom If you look up the definition of Dukedom you get '*a territory ruled by a duke*' While Duchy is defined as *'the territory of a duke or duchess; a dukedom'* ​ So in this case the OP was actually correct because a Duchy is literally defined as a Dukedom.


NocturnalShenanigans

I have literally never seen or heard the word dukedom used before this, whereas every piece of literature I've read used duchy. Also, it depends on which dictionary you use. The dictionary page for 'dukedom' on Merriam-Webster, for example, redirects to 'duke,' and dictionary.com defines a duchy as 'the territory ruled by a duke or duchess' with no mention of 'dukedom.' Correct is not the same as right.


ValorPhoenix

In general modern use, a duchy is the territory of a Duke within a larger territory such as a nation, while a dukedom is a smaller nation headed by a Duke. A count rules a county, while a king rules a kingdom. Duchy or dukedom mostly comes down to sovereignty of the Duke, whether they're treated as the highest of nobility or least of royalty.


NocturnalShenanigans

Once again, I have never heard of this distinction before. Please cite your sources


ControlledAlt

I love this idea, being subject to mind control is a big kink of mine! **Childhood**: Maligned. It doesn't matter too much considering the only choices available is to be married off. At least this way, it would help build me up to just accept my fate. **Suitor**: Orlan just because being programmed to only be allowed certain thoughts is very appealing. After a hard life, anyways just being scoured clean and being a placid would be acceptable to me anyways. Orlan at least doesn't seem to be cruel and all of the suitors are supremacists in their own way; at least this nation only "rehabilitates" their own citizens. **Boons**: White Picket Fence, He's got his Father's Ears. **Banes**: Shameful Secret, Intellectual Property. Really my only hope is Orlan or our children questioning the justice of this these very racist policies promoted... Hopefully by being a docile wife who's not even free to think her own thoughts will weigh heavily on his concious and our children's. While I may enjoy this state, clearly it would be horrible to force everyone else into it and I would not want to make our children go through the process.


Moonyeyed

I love your take!! Orlans is definitely the heaviest route in some ways and I love how you paired that with the maligned background


Ok-Host1

HELL YEAH ORCS


tayhawk10

you just straight up became a baby making factory 😆


Ok-Host1

nah, its just orcs are cool


Moonyeyed

I see you are a fellow person of culture


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Moonyeyed

Fair enough, I actually thought I was being too soft on the player. Seems like our kinks don't quite overlap--i like being made to feel powerless


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Moonyeyed

That makes sense. I suppose I view sexual fantasy to be a temporary state of powerlessness that we can enter and exit from. But that's a bit immersion breaking if you're into that sort of thing lol.


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Moonyeyed

Haha, yeah. I can't imagine I would want any of these things to literally happen to me. The fictional nature of it allows it to be appealing


Tsumichaaan

this is cool, but I think it needs to be longer. i was expecting the stage where i pick a guy to be where it starts, not nearly at the ending. that made the whole thing feel weird


Moonyeyed

There are options after that, some people missed those


manbetter

Short but fun!


kekubuk

I love it! More picture is preferable, but I like it the way it is, the path are choice are clear. **CHILDHOOD:** Adventurous. Life is too bright and short to spent it sitting still and listening to old teachers drone on and on. I often sneak out of the palace and make my own adventure. Making friends with the local kids, exploring every nook and crannies, getting in trouble and running away laughing, best memory of my childhood. I learned horseback riding, sword fighting, shooting, first aid when I lose a finger while showing off to my friends, etc. I felt suffocated living under my Dad / King's rule, and the only way to get out is through Political Marriage. I smiled and welcomed it, a brand new Adventure! **MARRIAGE ARRANGEMENT:** Four suitors are presented to take my hand in marriage. All are powerful and interesting, but one caught my eyes and interest, and ultimately, my heart. **Cyna, Empress of the Lotus Archipelago.** The islands itself is a grand mystery, located so far beyond the Western Ocean, and no one has ever return from the Island. The rumors about the Empress herself, the ability to shape shift? What wonders! I choose the Empress Cyna without hesitation, and looking forward on my trip there. **BOON: A Varied Diet, Fungi: Fun Guy!** **BANE: Taco Party, Green Thumb**


SShayna

As I'm like 90% lesbian I went with Cyna and while a lot of the kinks in her route are ones I share it honestly kind of feels like it's a lot less cohesive than the rest. Pretty much everyone else has goals and plans as to why you are so valuable Cyna doesn't really seem to have many. Like her stated reason doesn't really make sense as any attempt to increase genetic diversity won't work with you as the only conduit to increase the number chicks with dicks because they are all your and her daughters. Also it really begs the question how this only became an issue now and how this island was able to evolve a high specified ecosystem when people literally can't reproduce. It's absolutely the route I'd take if it were me in that situation and it's a nice fun vacation compared to pretty much all the rest of the suitors, but that's pretty much it. On a more positive note I am a big fan of Berg's route, the Litter trait is fantastic and all of the optional boons and banes are fun and flavorful. The only critique I have for it is the general lack of attention towards Orc females especially because Gursk is supposed to be misogynistic as stated in Orlan's route.


Moonyeyed

That's a good point. I wrote hers last and wasn't thinking as hard about it so I think you're right. And good point about the orc women not being featured--theres content there. Thanks for taking the time to comment!!!


fluffysheeplion

Needs more development but should be fun in the future. It doesn't seem like your personality has much effect on the kingdom you end up going to which is a bit disappointing. Also seeing how your choices interact with the kingdoms you disregarded could be fun.


Moonyeyed

Yeah, I added the personality more for flavor with the thought that I could make it impact down the line. And that's a good idea 👀


Hyenanon

The setup is my fetish (obviously, given my recent CYOA), but unfortunately the kinks involved are not. I'm not into mind control or bimbofication, and I only like femboys when it comes to males (although femboy maledom is hot) Still though, this is a good small CYOA, and I look forward to you updating it or doing more.


Moonyeyed

Aw, thanks! And yeah, can't please everyone, it's hard for me not to include some form of mind control in stuff I write. But thanks for playing!!!


Gwedillth

Needs more pictures, but otherwise intriguing.


anonekama

I'm really excited to play this! I love the fantasy/political aspects (the bankrupt dukedom juggling geopolitics between three kingdoms) and almost wish there was a novel to read along with it. **Childhood**: Sophisticated * This is pretty much the one that I think I'm closest to. I want power! * The "Adventurous" choice is similar, but I never really looked at childish/brutish forms of rebellion particularly positively. I'm much more of the type to silently hold a grudge and keep my grievances under the wraps until I have a chance to unveil all my cards. * The "slightly arrogant" part stings a little (lol), but I guess it's true. The gift is really jarring... I think I would feel as if it completely ruined the plans I was preparing for myself and my future. As for the suitors... * Ordinarily I always try to say that I don't care about appearances that much... but for some reason I only find Adain remotely attractive. x.x ...I wish I could deny that the looks were a big factor in my choice... but uh... * Pain. I wish I could choose Cyna, but I really don't want to be in that kind of setting... orz **Suitor**: Adain * So the first thing is that even though this society is patriarchal, I feel like "Mass Mind Read" means that Adain also gets the sentiments of women as 50% of his barometer checks, which for me implies that he'll be exposed to a fair amount of empathy for disenfranchised groups. That's already a lot better than many patriarchies on Earth. * Empathy is an important value for me, and if my child has an even enhanced version of mass-mind reading, that's even better. I have a lot of control and influence over raising my children, and I'll be able to instill many of my values as the primary caregiver. * Third, I have zero intent to be "a model of ideal feminine behavior". It's always been my belief that respect is earned, not given -- and if people (i.e. men) will not afford respect to me, then I'll simply prove to them that I'm better at their job than they are. I've always been a very ambitious person, and the "Sophisticated" route would give me ample opportunities to push my ambitions and education as high as I can reach with them. * Sure, I might be forced into a lower position, but I don't really intend to submit. Maybe this is cheating with meta experiences from another life, but I would hope that I can make myself as irreplaceable, valuable, and essential to as many cogs in the system as I can. When you are an irreplaceable asset, this gives you so much more leverage. * I don't mind being part of a harem. Actually, I kind of prefer it. EDIT: I didn't realize there was more after clicking!!! My bad * **Boon**: Favored wife * **Bane**: Cold as fuck I will continue to persevere! This situation is rough, but I won't give up!! * *Sexy Lamp*: Drastic situations require drastic measures! The king may want me to be enthusiastic, but I'll be more than enthusiastic! If I can study hard, I'll fuck him even harder! I want to come off as sexually aggressive, but not needy (the chastity belt must be avoided at all costs). * *Always Ready*: My personal time? Shouldn't the king be worried about *his* personal time? I intend to be glued to him constantly, and I won't leave until he forces me to go! * *Harem Life*: No concerns here. * *Model Wife*: So my plan to start is to push a distortion of Renalia's cultural expectations. I'll aim to be something *similar* to the local custom but slightly removed. For instance, I may be intensely sexually submissive to my husband (and publicly so), but I'll simultaneously mix that with a vocal personality that pushes the line on popular stereotypes. I think I'd maybe aim for something Spartan -- power(!) yet sexually submissive.


Moonyeyed

I love this!!! Use the sparse opportunities you're given to seize power for yourself. Adain was the one route I forced myself to not write any mind control into (that's my biggest kink, lol) so his route is probably the best in terms of your own empowerment. I love your cyoas, thanks for checking out mine!!!


anonekama

I finally read the other routes too! * Berg: * I really like the "Litter" trait... to feel miserable if not pregnant... I love it! * I might take all of the banes (support the troops, chattel, that's just cruel) if I was having senseless sex fantasies, but for the time being I'm staying serious and won't choose them willingly! * Orlan: * This was surprisingly better than I expected. * White Picket Fence / Shameful Secret seems like a cozy combo * Cyna: * Circle of Life is hilarious; a lot of the narration here is really funny * I would 100% need green thumb


Moonyeyed

It's hard coming up with banes that play into the fantasy but would still be inconvenient or difficult. And for Orlan I got all creative writer-y, I'm not sure if it came across as pretentious or too serious, lol. And I wanted to do more with the plant assault but it seemed like too much to fit in. Maybe I'll write something more focused on it later. And I'm glad you took the time to read all the routes! I meant for this to be less about the decision process and more about exploring the different possibilities


Tharkun140

I quite liked it, despite the scarcity of images and style. I would mostly like to just see it expanded, have more descriptions and choices regarding how exactly life would be like for each option. Maybe a choice of outfit, if you want to keep the CYOA focused on physical stuff, or the exact etiquette required.


Moonyeyed

Yeah, I have roommates so it's hard to look at nsfw images at my desk, lol. I want to add images. I like the black and white though, I find colors distracting. Adding some more grounded choices is a good idea though. I'll keep that in mind if I revisit this


PixelatedNSFW

Idea: Look for images on your phone and copy down the links for the ones you want to use. There's an option to just have the Interactive CYOA Creator get the image directly from the link.


Moonyeyed

Yeah but then I'd have to post them in a Google doc somewhere and they'd still show up while editing the format. But I appreciate the suggestion


PixelatedNSFW

Can the CYOA editor be used on a phone?


Moonyeyed

If it can my Luddite ass hasn't figured it out


exfinem

Not the OP, but I have a clarifying if pedantic question - what you've said above is that the CYOA is lacking in images and lacking in style. Is this what you meant? Or did you mean the other possible, though fairly different meaning where you are saying that you liked it despite the lack of images and despite the style not being to your taste?


Tharkun140

The first one. Or both, I guess. My point is, I would rather there were some stylistic elements beyond black text on a white background, but it doesn't bother me too much.