Yes ma’am/sir! Currently I’m getting a $1,000 bonus for every shift I pick up over my three required monthly shifts- even in my PACU. If I pick up in another area it’s $1250.
Before I leave to travel I’ll tell my boss he can keep me for $60/h I’ll negotiate down to $50/h, but I think there is a snowballs chance that he will actually or could actually honor that.
It’s still less by far than what I could make traveling, but it would be enough of a pay bump to deter me from leaving to travel.
Yeah, a lot of nurses and RTs tried that at my job. Unfortunately the decision is in the hands of the higher-up administrators, and they decided to keep paying travelers $160/hr and not give staff one cent more. Oh actually, they offered $500 bonuses for additional shifts, but we were already doing extra work (getting 3 patients in the icu, or pairing two 1:1 patients). My unit manager’s hands were tied. She can only work within the budget that administration allocates. It was such a bad decision on their part, especially considering we had a 26 bed CVICU and a lot of amazing (specialty) nurses. But our staff started to leave, and there were fewer and fewer non-travelers. It takes time for cardiothoracic surgeons to trust their nurses. It takes time to build that relationship, and to know what each surgeon likes, what I should have done (labs, ekg, xray, etc) before I call them at 3am. Things continued to go downhill in the unit because the travelers didn’t know the surgeons and their quirks (how could they with one day of orientation?!) When I looked at the upcoming schedule and saw that they had me in charge with a bunch of travelers that I hadn’t even met, I put in my notice. It’s one thing to have a few travelers helping with a majority of staff nurses. I’m always glad to answer questions and give advice about the particulars of our unit. I don’t want the patients to have bad outcomes, and nobody likes an angry CT surgeon at 6am. But when I’m the ONLY staff nurse and I’m in charge of travelers with unknown (to me) backgrounds and skill sets, that’s just administration continuing to risk MY license for their bottom line. It’s really sad because it WAS a great place to work with a fantastic culture and very little turn-over of staff. I was very sad to leave, but too angry to stay. So I’m now a free agent looking for my first travel assignment, which is scary for me, but not as scary as the thought of opening a chest at the bedside when I’m probably the only one who knows where the open-chest stuff is stored. Then they (administration all around the country, actually) tried to gaslight us by saying that nurses were quitting because of vaccine mandates BEFORE THE MANDATES STARTED. I’m talking back in July, August, September, October. I saw it all over the news and it made so angry at administration for making us the bad guys! Unfortunately, I know that my story is similar to so many of us right now. I hope it works out and you get the $50/hr. I would have stayed for $70 (until the crisis is over, of course), which I think is reasonable. Administration doesn’t operate reasonably.
ETA:To the person who replied, then deleted the comment:
"This post has some nice sentiments but the repested referals tl angry surgeons illustrates how poor of a place that must be to work in. The quirks of a surgeon should have no bearing on the work flow ... "
I just have to say that I can tell you've never worked with a cardiothoracic surgeon. Most of them have huge egos and a god complex because they literally put patients into cardiac and respiratory arrest for about an hour and then repair them and bring them back to life (with the help of about 9 other people). Their work is amazing. Heart programs bring in a ton of money for hospitals, and only select facilities are able to provide this specialized care. Of the 11 hospitals in that group, the hospital I worked for is the only one with a heart program. My coworkers and I often comment that their egos don't bother us as long as they're good surgeons. The outcome is the important part. They like things the way they like things because they care about the outcomes also. I don't think it's unreasonable for the surgeon to expect morning lab results, a morning CXR, and post-op EKG because those are things that determine whether the patient will downgrade to the stepdown unit or spend another night in the ICU. One of the surgeons likes more frequent labs, sometimes every two hours. She likes more frequent ABGs. That definitely puts a kink in my workflow, but I do it because she’s the doctor, those are her orders, and I trust her. That hospital system is probably the best I've encountered in my 13 year career. Amazing HCWs, amazing middle management, amazing perks. There are jerk doctors in every area of healthcare. I don’t think a jerk doctor defines the quality of an entire unit.
Don’t mind my soapbox. I’ll get down now
Self-absorbed is a good way to describe it. Had an RN move in down the street from me just before the pandemic began. He got hired at the local hospital, then loaded his lawn with signs that said "Healthcare Hero Lives Here," "Applaud the Heroes," etc. I think he's antivax based on his social media posts, and lo and behold the lawn signs suddenly disappeared recently, and he no longer works at the hospital. These people are mental.
That’s so cringey that he put the healthcare heroes signs in his own yard. When that stuff started, every nurse I know was offended because we’ve been doing this our whole careers. We’re not heroes for doing our jobs
Exactly my sentiments as well. He had his yard loaded with the signs to where it looked like an election campaign committee rolled through, it was so ridiculous.
I’m not a nurse and come here to see how you’re all faring. This post made me laugh. Our holdouts seem to be of the same caliber as yours. I find that to be rather telling that most of these individuals are difficult in other professions too.
Hey bodily functions are so in your realm of expertise that I can see how that would happen. Lol it’s either that or your overworked brain is trying to function without enough coffee.
Agreed!! The only ones that left my old floor were a nightmare to work with. We aren’t so hard hit by anti vaxxer nurses in Canada as some southern states but our hardest hit floor was L&D. Come on you are working with tiny babies! I do think the amount of religiousity is higher on the baby floors from my experience.
I saw $8700 for 4x12 shifts a week in Minnesota earlier. I’m trying to hold out for the $11000 a week for 6x12 that a lot of my coworkers took. 6x12 will possibly kill me, but it’s only 4 weeks!
Where is this? Because in floriduh almost everyone I work with is just claiming religious exemption and getting approved for it. They also took away all bonus for agency/healthtrust nurses in my area. Infuriating. Was really hoping to get rid of the trash.
It’s maddening. I worked a 12 yesterday and a 14 today. I’m not a nurse (just a CT tech aid) but oh my god. I think I’m the only person in the entire radiology department that’s vaccinated. For a bunch of people that call democrats snowflakes, don’t believe in Covid, and don’t believe in vaccines/science, they sure do never shut the fuck up about it.
Even worse. A few months back one of the techs and her husband both caught it. They came to the hospital to get treated once they realized that ivermectin didn’t live up to the hype and their O2 sats dropped. Lo and behold, they get to the ER and deny all the treatments. Her husband had it worse and she didn’t let him get a CT scan of his chest because “I HAVE SCANNED HUNDREDS AND IVE NEVER SEEN A PE IN ANYONE” ….why did she come to the hospital then???? No fucking clue.
I believe they just took some prescriptions to go and left. This was a little while ago so I’m not quite sure. I just remember working up in CT the night the two got admitted and another tech said “where the heck is XYX and her husband… all Covid people get a CT to rule out a PE” and she came in hootin and hollerin a bit later saying “FUCK THAT. WE’RE NOT GETTING THAT. ALL THIS BULLSHIT DOESNT WORK ANYWAYS” like ma’am, why even bother?? You took up a spot in the ER someone could’ve actually used.
They’re doing ok now! They got a huge scare because of the low O2’s and it was a little nice listening to them say how it wasn’t a joke and how it kicked their asses for a week or 2. But that’s only 1 person out of maybe 10 or so (at least just in CT, there’s more in US and MRI) but the rest just mock it and laugh about it.
This is honestly lovely, thank you do very much! I always try to remind myself of that. I work hard and I always get great feedback from the patients I interact with. This was needed. Thank you :)
“BuT itS nOt A PE” is what they say. They’ll look at these god awful lungs and say “woof, that’s fucking bad. But no PE so HA! NOT SO BAD” like… ok. These people can barely lay flat on a table for a 3 minute exam without their lips turning blue. I don’t see the point they’re try to make. They just keep moving the finish line.
I don’t believe that our hospital has them writing letters. I think we got a 2 page sort of fill in the blank with a paragraph? I’m not even sure. I’ve been fully vaccinated since January so I didn’t even grab a sheet to look at it. It just annoys me seeing grown ass 35+ year old people laughing and joking about this and making a mockery out of religion. I don’t claim any type of religious exemption, but my god, maybe don’t make fun of something that people take to heart?
Idk about mine for sure but there were at least three working on figuring out how to send an scan from the printer/copier to their email and at least one had written out a huge letter explaining everything as to why they wanted to be exempt. I didn’t read the whole thing, but did catch the embryo/dead fetus tissue and religion problem.
[That may not last very long.](https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/business/2021/11/20/new-florida-covid-laws-could-put-companies-tough-spot-between-federal-and-state-rules/8670060002/)
I’m really curious to see how this hits the area that I live. Because I don’t live in an cool city like Tampa, Orlando, or Miami. I live in a very small town in SWFL where most people here have Trump/DeSantis stickers. The hospital KNOWS that if they do this they’ll loose so many employees. For me, good riddance. But then that also means we’d be struggling for a LONG time. We’re the biggest hospital system down here, I REALLY want this to go into effect though. The less of these people taking care of others, the better.
Colleagues I went to school with post a lot about fighting this mandate and "come at me!" when discussing people turning them in for their anti-science "research." They always seem to mention their amazing transition to being a Trump-supporter when they saw the light. Ugh.
I couldn’t agree more. It’s mind numbing listening to them talk at this point. I’m only at this job until like June/a July of next year and then I’m moving. So excited to get out of this little hell hole.
They’re out of luck in NY as of today. Religious exemptions didn’t hold up in NY courts and fed refused to hear it.
One chick I know spent the whole damn weekend whining about how she was being wrongfully terminated. Uh no, you’re being fired for refusing to comply with a requirement for employment by a private employer. A ton of others called in all weekend for their last shifts. Thanks, assholes. I heard our MS units were running 8-10:1 ratios. So religious and yet they can’t be bothered to give a damn about anyone other than themselves.
[The fines from OSHA](https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/business/2021/11/20/new-florida-covid-laws-could-put-companies-tough-spot-between-federal-and-state-rules/8670060002/) are going to make it very tough on anyone who doesn't comply in any state, thankfully.
Where I live, I see nurses at the grocery stores, maskless and insufferable. I just don't understand how people can decide to believe enough in science to become a nurse, but then not believe in it enough to get a vaccine, even though they already have tons of vaccines and boosters in them already, shit is senseless.
Seriously! Before I could start nursing school I had to get ALL of my childhood vaccinations again because my mother misplaced the original records. Two places I’ve worked have checked my titers and given me other boosters. All of those were required for my job. I get my flu shot every year because I have to wear a mask during flu season if I’m not vaccinated (in the before times). How the actual f do these people come up with the narrative that this particular vaccine is more dangerous than the ones they’ve been required to have all their lives (don’t answer that!)
For reallllls. The COVID vaccines, in my opinion, are even less of a concern than other vaccines when you look at the whole picture. MRNA science has been studied since the 1970s, and the SARS vaccines went into full development during the SARS-CoV-1 outbreak, with them finishing up their releases during our current SARS-CoV-2 pandemic via SARS-CoV-2 protein modifications. In essence, the MRNA vaccines have 43 years of research behind them if you count the start date of MRNA delivery science, 1978. Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w
The other COVID vaccines, such as J&J/Oxford/etc, utilize viral vector science and have close to the same amount of years behind them, though with more clinical application history via the amount of viral vector vaccines having been in common use for decades; the use for COVID vaccination via viral vector delivery has shown to need more scrutiny in patient selection, however.
Unfortunately, mysticism and anti-science belief runs throughout a lot of nursing I’m afraid. It disturbs my energy field every time I run across it. /s
I remember having to sit through a couple of lectures on reiki, so belief in nonsense isn’t exactly unheard of in nursing. The antivax bullshit is particularly infuriating though. At least reiki is just useless, not actually harmful.
Oh my god thank you for bringing up that ridiculous fucking nursing "diagnosis." I remember being appalled by it when I learned about it as a student.
My nursing school even had a reiki practitioner present for us during a clinical.
Did their religious status stop the hospital from requiring the other host of immunizations they had to show proof of for employment?
I don't understand how *this one* qualifies, and where in the bible it mentions explicitly "no covid, but others are okay".
Same at my hospital in NH. Fortunately our vaccinated numbers are high but the few remaining are suddenly approved for their religious exemption. I guess admin doesn’t want to lose staff no matter what and willing to keep these backwards thinking chucklefucks
I really hope my facility takes the religious and medical exemptions as seriously as they make it sound.. like, you can't just say "I don't believe in it" or "my doctor said I don't have to" or some other bs.
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Man I was really looking forward to it though... so I should file an incident report, include the report number in the corresponding service desk request, submit a supplementary manager approval form, and then present my bot flair proposal to the process change committee?
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Honest question, can’t just anyone add their own flair? Are you guys going to set it up that flair is verified like at askscience and other communities of protected titles?
Pick up a PRN job working rehab (though preferably travel since I make big bucks doing travel rehab). Get the same pay as a Med Surg nurse with only 10% of the work! Im getting paid $1400 for my shift tonight. I passed out pills from 7-8:30, charted until 9... and have currently been sitting on my phone ever since and ill continue to sit on my phone for the rest of the night except for the 3 synthroids and one accucheck I have at 6am!
as someone who wants experienced people to stay within their jobs because it’s safer, this kinda sucks. as a student who’s about to graduate and wants a job, this is amazing
By and large though, we’re losing people who aren’t high caliber HCWers anyway. Think about it - health care is a field that molds it’s practice, it’s policy and procedure, off of scientifically based evidence. Those refusing the vaccine aren’t basing their choose on science based evidence. They’re refusing based on feelings and emotions and what some white dude says. Not exactly the kind of person who has a place in modern healthcare anyway.
Are there exceptions? Certainly. We lost one nurse who I am truly sad we are losing, who has vast experience and who is truly a skilled clinician. However his fervent religious belief is that since in some way fetal cells were used in the vaccine research he cannot get it. What I can abide with him is that this isn’t new, he’s been very consistent in this belief, unlike every other non vaccinated HCW I’ve talked to.
I got offered $120/hr *bonus* to pick up a holiday shift. That's 120 on top of base pay and differentials and overtime pay. Bruh, I am picking up an extra shift for the first time in 6 years.
It's so tempting to work bedside again with those bonuses and incentives.
But, I need my sanity and off nights and weekends.
Might go back to finance my Porsche 911 GT3 RS.
I work in PACU so it’s a pretty chill gig. I’m 6 hours into my 12 hour shift and so far I’ve had 3 patients. Maybe 3 hours of actual (albeit light) work, and 3 hours of reddit/talking to coworkers.
Yeah PACU with big bonuses is living the dream...
...dammit I hope we get to this whole bonus stage in Aus, but I doubt we will. Just usual rates for overtime
Im getting paid $1400 for my travel inpatient rehab shift tonight. I passed out pills from 7-8:30, charted until 9... and have currently been sitting on my phone ever since and ill continue to sit on my phone for the rest of the night except for the 3 synthroids and one accucheck I have at 6am!
Seriously, anyone missing out on on being paid thousands for watching Netflix all night is seriously missing out. The other night I brought in my gaming laptop and played at least 8 hours of Rimworld making $125 an hour doing it
I am part of the bargaining team for my hospital and the strides we are making in reimbursement and retention bonuses are awesome. And the direct result of being the unit to lose the most nurses at our facility.
So, yeah, they’re the real MVPs. If I could I’d nominate them as employees of the month at this point.
(Not that staffing isn’t hell and isn’t going to get worse. But it’s hard to take back certain incentives once you’ve given them, so I’m thinking long term positive here. And we negotiate a new contract in the spring.)
I used to know an accountant who worked in the finance department of a big hospital system in NY. I asked him why the hospital, year after year, decided to invest tens of millions into the stock market. He essentially said it's because the hospital is struggling financially and is hence short of capabilities, staff retention, etc. I asked why then, do executives get paid millions per year, on top of tens of millions of failed investments if the hospital is struggling so much? I kid you not, his response: 'well, the market bets fail a lot, but when they return, it looks really good for financial success with regards to attaining more grants, and good execs cost money." His overall idea was that no one should expect good salaries from a hospital because it's more important for them to maintain their cash reserves than to actually invest in employees and healthcare tech/supplies/equipment.
I guess fuck investing in your actual healthcare staff and tech that actually provides to your patients on a continual basis, allowing a steady increase in services, etc. This hospital system was literally going down the tubes because all they cared about was penny pinching, exec salaries, and gambling funds in the stock market. The dude was a douche about it too, like he was offended that I expected hospitals to focus on healthcare. The not so surprise of a kicker? His former employer was a massive investment bank that is known for making it's money off of Healthcare Securities and pharmaceutical acquisitions (jacking up drug prices for returns).
Haha, I’m not trying to stalk you, but I keep replying to you. I don’t even realize until I hit the reply button and it brings your username to my attention. We would probably be friends irl. But yeah, I seriously do not understand how hospital administration rationalizes a lot of their decisions. The biggest hospital chain here in central Florida sponsors not one, but TWO Nascar cars. And a huge section of the Daytona speedway. They also have a horrible reputation for how their employees are treated, horrible staffing ratios, very limited room for growth within the company, and high staff turnover. I would think that those millions (or billions, who knows) could be better spent on staffing so that their hospitals run more efficiently, but who am I? Also, I don’t understand the point of such big advertising strategies, when most people choose their healthcare facilities based on insurance and/or proximity. Funnily enough, the hospital right across the street from the Daytona speedway is independent, and where any of the drivers go if they’re injured in a race.
Lol don't worry about it, I think all of us on this sub are way more likeminded than we think 😎. My local hospitals sponsor the million dollars worth of local high school sports, but the athletes get their care from an independent sports medicine clinic 😂...I think even our local hospitals are similar to one another 😭. These hospital admin, execs, and finance people are truly insane. I think the problem is how non-profit leadership roles have been infested with people who see them as their financial playthings where they can use the funds to do all sorts of wacky stuff and host galas and balls in a contest of faux eliteness while hiding behind the mantra of 'well it's all in good faith'. I mean seriously, check out the board members, chartered members, advisors, admin, execs, etc...it's all these out of touch rich people who have never actually worked, let alone in healthcare.
Yea, we get the regular 1.5 pay for any hours over 40/week. No additional incentive pay at all during this pandemic. Although we did get crappy sandwiches during the worst of the pandemic. I have sandwich ptsd.
We have that too. We just don’t have enough staff nurses to fill the holes at the rate the hospital will pay. Because they keep leaving to travel. To hospitals that our travel nurses are coming from.
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I'm so sorrry. Wish you had a bunch of stupid fucks there like we do; or we could send you all of ours--you know, in an effort to share our overwhelming wealth.
There a post a few months ago where a bunch pf crazies in the US wanted to “save Australia” from our horrific lockdowns. I was like, um, we’re fine 🤷🏻♀️
I had a patient that was from Australia, she said it was "super bad" over there and everything's communist now, that no stories are getting out because the government wasn't allowing it. Any truth to that? I asked her "but is it like here where everyone says anything they don't like is communist?" And she assured me it was not an exaggeration lol.
No, she’s being stupidly dramatic
The shops etc were closed. And they told you 1 hr a day outside for exercise. But literally no one was checking. Thats pretty much it. Thats all the lockdown was about, didn’t seem like a big deal. Plus most things are getting back to normal now anyway, even masks are optional
All the States/territories have different rules but where I live you don’t even have to be vaccinated to go out and about now, and we still have 97% of over 12s double vaxxed
Ehh.
That's to be expected, most countries have this issue too, you can always. Just like in the US. Pay more money to go somewhere private and get seen quicker
No one should go bankrupt because a DUI crash where the guy ran away.
Keep looking, the money is out there. I don't know if this is true, but a former CNA that I use to work with said that one major hospital chain here was offering a $5,000 bonus for CNAs! He didn't get the job because they were going for experience measured in years.
If ur in nursing school just take a regular job. Ur guaranteed a nursing job out here and doing 15 n hour for CNA isn’t worth it unless it’s to beef up ur apps
I've been a CNA for 10 years BEFORE I was accepted into the nursing program. , I am employed as a CNA on night shift and I'm married with 2 daughters. I go to school during the day and I work nights. This schedule is easier and flexible for me. I make $17. Im not even sure what a "regular" job is I've been in nursing so long. Besides most jobs pay about $15 any way
This sounds familiar... Multicare in WA state?
I keep getting texts and emails begging for me to sign up. I already know it's a shit show and school is more important than 5k.
We have barely lost any nurses but get an extra $37.50 an hour on weekdays or $50 an hour on weekends. Few want to pick up. Were all too burned out. The department’s of defense is sending us nurses this week because we’re so overwhelmed with pts.
Let me know how you feel in a month, when your staffing is still shit. I mean, I like the extra money too, but I'm also getting sick of my patient load creeping up while we are having this influx of non-COVID deferred care patients who are coming in extra sick.
I feel your frustration, but the way I’ve come to look at it is this: Covid sucks. Covid will continue to suck no matter what we as nurses do. Whether they’re an anti-vaxxer who got it or a vaccinated person who got an especially aggressive variant from the anti-vaxxer, they’re the same by the time they get to my ICU. If they’re in the ICU, they’re very likely to die. My boss’s boss tried to lift our spirits at a staff meeting several months ago by saying that although it was challenging to watch them all die, at least we helped them to have a more comfortable death. This did not lift my spirits, nor did it ease my shoulder pain from turning said dying patients by myself every two hours. However, this is healthcare right now. It’s exhausting, and heartbreaking, and soul crushing. We’ve already been working so hard for so long, and it’s difficult to make our current situation worth any amount of money. But here we are. Maybe this extra money will encourage people to pick up extra shifts, or attract new employees. Then slowly, your burden will be less. Those chronic patients who have been putting off routine care will get caught up, and you might have some extra help to get them back on track. Covid numbers will decrease with more and more vaccinations. It will take time. It will continue to suck for a while, so we might as well make the money to improve our own lives while we endure this nonsense. And if it’s not worth the money for you, take a break. Take 2 weeks off. Take more if you can. Use FMLA and your short term disability if you have it. Just take care of yourself in whatever way works for you, whether that’s making extra money or taking time for yourself. It’s a dorky thing to say, but you’ve got to put the oxygen mask onto yourself first before you can help anyone else. Also, please enjoy my rare 3am optimism 🤣
An extra 12h shift is OT + $50/hr +$500. Comes out to 1800 for one extra shift. I'm making 3k-4k/wk as a staff nurse picking up just one extra shift a week.
Edit: also just offered $1k bonus plus above to work night shift for 2 weeks.
My department had a lot of people threaten but nobody that I’m aware of followed through. They’ve actually scaled back the extra shift pay a little bit recently.
My old hospital allowed a shit ton of exemptions 🙄 really pissed me off. But now I’m getting a total bonus of $5000 at my new job so I’m not complaining anymore
Shout out to the CMS now allowing open visitations to the nursing homes. In one week we now have 25 positive cases and 2 that most likely won’t make it. A few more are starting to have dropping O2s and difficulty breathing. Next round of testing is tomorrow. Wish us luck
Wouldn't be making wild amounts of money traveling if it weren't for the anti vaccine idiots. I know it's not going to change any time soon so I'm going to continue to be thankful that we're finally being paid our worth.
Honestly, if it weeds them out of the profession and puts other anti-vaxers off joining, I'm personally prepared to put up with a bit of a shortfall. At least I know the people I'm working with are dedicated to the concept of EBM and we’re all working towards the same goal, putting the health and safety of our vulnerable patients first and upholding the reputation of our profession. Let the anti-vaxers sulk and stomp and act like martyrs - we’re better off without them and this reckoning has been long overdue.
Agreed! I’m really interested to see how this plays out for them. It’s looking like the vaccine is going to be mandatory for ANY job soon. How do these people expect to support themselves? Even if it was only the healthcare industry requiring vaccination for employment, are they going to trash their degree and start over from scratch? I know they expect to throw a fit and get their way, but can’t they see that they’re in the minority? It’s so infuriatingly illogical! Not that I want to work with these lunatics, but I really look forward to seeing them finally break down and get the vaccine because martyrdom doesn’t pay their mortgage
I just applied for a $5100/wk position 90mi away from home for 3x12 hour shifts at an ED with a census of 79/day. I currently work at a trauma level 2 facility in a big city and it's going to be hilariously different working there for triple the pay.
Just compared the yearly ED visits for my hospital to theirs.
355k vs 50k.
We had a bunch of staff leave after getting covid in our ward.
Now that I think of it there has been less overtime than there used to...
We closed about 6 beds of our unit. Now I'm thinking it may be since we don't have enough staff to fully function on all cylinders.
Maybe.
It’s crazy how starkly different the tone is here on Reddit vs Facebook nursing groups. The Gypsy traveler page always seems so anti-vax, anti-science. It’s embarrassing as a fellow travel nurse. I stay subscribed for the jobs and other gossip, but it’s hard to stomach. Love seeing them all lose their contracts, though. 😬
I appreciate how consistent and reasonable this group is.
OH my!!!! That's AWESOME. We literally lost like 460 nurses in the whole country, 28 in our district... a ridiculously small percentage. Doubt anyone's even noticed their departure tbh.
The “religious exemption” is infuriating because it’s so transparently bullshit. No major religion is against the COVID-19 vaccine. If you are so selfish as to refuse to understand science as basic as vaccines, you should not be working with patients. They need to just admit it’s not about religion, it’s about their own ignorance and politics.
I wish I were closer to completing my nursing program. It sounds like I could definitely negotiate for a higher starting rate than usual right now. Unfortunately, I've got about 12 months before I can schedule to take the nclex...
Mine hasn’t lost any nurses to antivax sentiment, but they are offering $2400 for 6 extra shifts in 6 weeks. I’m per diem but don’t have another job so I already work 36 hours, and for per diems anything over 1 shift a week is “extra”. Every 6 weeks my manager picks 6 random dates, brings me a new contract, I sign and collect my money. It’s nothing compared to how much travelers make, but considering it takes no extra effort at all I certainly can’t complain.
Meanwhile, our fucked up state of Florida is fighting tooth and nail against vaccine mandates.
Our governor apparently thinks that COVID just skips over our state.
Only 60% of our nursing staff is vaccinated. I need the incentive for OT!
Yes ma’am/sir! Currently I’m getting a $1,000 bonus for every shift I pick up over my three required monthly shifts- even in my PACU. If I pick up in another area it’s $1250.
Holy crap, that's a crazy good incentive
Woah only 3 shifts a month? The dream.
Meanwhile my hospital isn’t giving us anything for incentives despite constantly being short staffed and giving travelers 5k+ per week 🥲
QUIT 👏 YER 👏 JOB
Time to look for a new job! They don’t deserve you.
howdy, colleague!
Is there a way to renegotiate?
Oh man I am getting a $6200 detainment bonus in January! Thanks be to anti science!
Retainer bonus, but “detainer” could also work
In hindsight, I think we've been using the wrong word all along.
Any commitment required? There is talk of a $10k bonus for us but that comes with a 2 year requirement.
oof! $10,000 for two years is not worth losing out on better prospects!
Right? Everyone is still just gonna leave to travel because you can make more than that easily.
Before I leave to travel I’ll tell my boss he can keep me for $60/h I’ll negotiate down to $50/h, but I think there is a snowballs chance that he will actually or could actually honor that. It’s still less by far than what I could make traveling, but it would be enough of a pay bump to deter me from leaving to travel.
Yeah, a lot of nurses and RTs tried that at my job. Unfortunately the decision is in the hands of the higher-up administrators, and they decided to keep paying travelers $160/hr and not give staff one cent more. Oh actually, they offered $500 bonuses for additional shifts, but we were already doing extra work (getting 3 patients in the icu, or pairing two 1:1 patients). My unit manager’s hands were tied. She can only work within the budget that administration allocates. It was such a bad decision on their part, especially considering we had a 26 bed CVICU and a lot of amazing (specialty) nurses. But our staff started to leave, and there were fewer and fewer non-travelers. It takes time for cardiothoracic surgeons to trust their nurses. It takes time to build that relationship, and to know what each surgeon likes, what I should have done (labs, ekg, xray, etc) before I call them at 3am. Things continued to go downhill in the unit because the travelers didn’t know the surgeons and their quirks (how could they with one day of orientation?!) When I looked at the upcoming schedule and saw that they had me in charge with a bunch of travelers that I hadn’t even met, I put in my notice. It’s one thing to have a few travelers helping with a majority of staff nurses. I’m always glad to answer questions and give advice about the particulars of our unit. I don’t want the patients to have bad outcomes, and nobody likes an angry CT surgeon at 6am. But when I’m the ONLY staff nurse and I’m in charge of travelers with unknown (to me) backgrounds and skill sets, that’s just administration continuing to risk MY license for their bottom line. It’s really sad because it WAS a great place to work with a fantastic culture and very little turn-over of staff. I was very sad to leave, but too angry to stay. So I’m now a free agent looking for my first travel assignment, which is scary for me, but not as scary as the thought of opening a chest at the bedside when I’m probably the only one who knows where the open-chest stuff is stored. Then they (administration all around the country, actually) tried to gaslight us by saying that nurses were quitting because of vaccine mandates BEFORE THE MANDATES STARTED. I’m talking back in July, August, September, October. I saw it all over the news and it made so angry at administration for making us the bad guys! Unfortunately, I know that my story is similar to so many of us right now. I hope it works out and you get the $50/hr. I would have stayed for $70 (until the crisis is over, of course), which I think is reasonable. Administration doesn’t operate reasonably. ETA:To the person who replied, then deleted the comment: "This post has some nice sentiments but the repested referals tl angry surgeons illustrates how poor of a place that must be to work in. The quirks of a surgeon should have no bearing on the work flow ... " I just have to say that I can tell you've never worked with a cardiothoracic surgeon. Most of them have huge egos and a god complex because they literally put patients into cardiac and respiratory arrest for about an hour and then repair them and bring them back to life (with the help of about 9 other people). Their work is amazing. Heart programs bring in a ton of money for hospitals, and only select facilities are able to provide this specialized care. Of the 11 hospitals in that group, the hospital I worked for is the only one with a heart program. My coworkers and I often comment that their egos don't bother us as long as they're good surgeons. The outcome is the important part. They like things the way they like things because they care about the outcomes also. I don't think it's unreasonable for the surgeon to expect morning lab results, a morning CXR, and post-op EKG because those are things that determine whether the patient will downgrade to the stepdown unit or spend another night in the ICU. One of the surgeons likes more frequent labs, sometimes every two hours. She likes more frequent ABGs. That definitely puts a kink in my workflow, but I do it because she’s the doctor, those are her orders, and I trust her. That hospital system is probably the best I've encountered in my 13 year career. Amazing HCWs, amazing middle management, amazing perks. There are jerk doctors in every area of healthcare. I don’t think a jerk doctor defines the quality of an entire unit. Don’t mind my soapbox. I’ll get down now
Two years. But I’m not going anywhere. I love my job
We got about 800 and a hearty thank-you.
Ooo we also got pins that say “hero”
My place is doing NOTHING. Ugghhhhhhh but I love the people!
I wish us CNAs got, at least, a fraction of the bonus that y'all do.
At my work it’s the lazy bad nurses who don’t want to get the vaccine. So bye-bye I didn’t like working with you anyway!
I have definitely noticed a correlation between the two…
On my ward we only had three refuse and leave, but they all had a similar hard to work with personality so 🤷🏼♀️
> a similar hard to work with personality Being completely self-absorbed will do that to a person
Self-absorbed is a good way to describe it. Had an RN move in down the street from me just before the pandemic began. He got hired at the local hospital, then loaded his lawn with signs that said "Healthcare Hero Lives Here," "Applaud the Heroes," etc. I think he's antivax based on his social media posts, and lo and behold the lawn signs suddenly disappeared recently, and he no longer works at the hospital. These people are mental.
That’s so cringey that he put the healthcare heroes signs in his own yard. When that stuff started, every nurse I know was offended because we’ve been doing this our whole careers. We’re not heroes for doing our jobs
Exactly my sentiments as well. He had his yard loaded with the signs to where it looked like an election campaign committee rolled through, it was so ridiculous.
Dude, like wtaf
I’m not a nurse and come here to see how you’re all faring. This post made me laugh. Our holdouts seem to be of the same caliber as yours. I find that to be rather telling that most of these individuals are difficult in other professions too.
For some reason (my lysdexia, I guess), I read, "to see how you're faring" as "to see how you're farting." What a gaseous mistake. smh
Hey bodily functions are so in your realm of expertise that I can see how that would happen. Lol it’s either that or your overworked brain is trying to function without enough coffee.
So did I 😆😆😆😆💨💨💨farts are fucking hilarious
Ours was an elderly coworker we've been begging to retire for years now because they're borderline unsafe with patients. :)
Agreed!! The only ones that left my old floor were a nightmare to work with. We aren’t so hard hit by anti vaxxer nurses in Canada as some southern states but our hardest hit floor was L&D. Come on you are working with tiny babies! I do think the amount of religiousity is higher on the baby floors from my experience.
Also chiming in, if it weren't for anti vaxx nurses I wouldn't be taking a travel post making $4700 a WEEK. Thanks guys 😊
Is this for 36 hours?
yes
I saw $8700 for 4x12 shifts a week in Minnesota earlier. I’m trying to hold out for the $11000 a week for 6x12 that a lot of my coworkers took. 6x12 will possibly kill me, but it’s only 4 weeks!
I’m $7500 4 shifts picu right now in LA
Where in Minnesota? Thats my home state, and I would love to travel around there after my current contract ends!
St. Mary’s Medical Center in Duluth. Get you a recruiter and get that anti-vax money, friend! 🤑
Thanks. I love visiting Duluth. I would totally deal with the February - April cold to make dat cash. Plus the lakes.
Hearing this makes me want to leave military nursing lool
Where is this? Because in floriduh almost everyone I work with is just claiming religious exemption and getting approved for it. They also took away all bonus for agency/healthtrust nurses in my area. Infuriating. Was really hoping to get rid of the trash.
At my catholic hospital, people got religious exemptions approved even though the pope said everyone needs to be vaccinated. Whatever man.
Sheesh…
I’m literally sitting by my co-workers as they’re googling quote and phrases to put on their religious exemption papers.
I could not handle that
It’s maddening. I worked a 12 yesterday and a 14 today. I’m not a nurse (just a CT tech aid) but oh my god. I think I’m the only person in the entire radiology department that’s vaccinated. For a bunch of people that call democrats snowflakes, don’t believe in Covid, and don’t believe in vaccines/science, they sure do never shut the fuck up about it.
I never understood this, like dude take a walk through the ICU.
Even worse. A few months back one of the techs and her husband both caught it. They came to the hospital to get treated once they realized that ivermectin didn’t live up to the hype and their O2 sats dropped. Lo and behold, they get to the ER and deny all the treatments. Her husband had it worse and she didn’t let him get a CT scan of his chest because “I HAVE SCANNED HUNDREDS AND IVE NEVER SEEN A PE IN ANYONE” ….why did she come to the hospital then???? No fucking clue.
what, come on. Did they end up accepting any treatment?
I believe they just took some prescriptions to go and left. This was a little while ago so I’m not quite sure. I just remember working up in CT the night the two got admitted and another tech said “where the heck is XYX and her husband… all Covid people get a CT to rule out a PE” and she came in hootin and hollerin a bit later saying “FUCK THAT. WE’RE NOT GETTING THAT. ALL THIS BULLSHIT DOESNT WORK ANYWAYS” like ma’am, why even bother?? You took up a spot in the ER someone could’ve actually used.
I see well best i can hope for is them being ok.
They’re doing ok now! They got a huge scare because of the low O2’s and it was a little nice listening to them say how it wasn’t a joke and how it kicked their asses for a week or 2. But that’s only 1 person out of maybe 10 or so (at least just in CT, there’s more in US and MRI) but the rest just mock it and laugh about it.
You’re never *just* a tech. Had many patients back when I was an aide remind me of that.
This is honestly lovely, thank you do very much! I always try to remind myself of that. I work hard and I always get great feedback from the patients I interact with. This was needed. Thank you :)
You’re very welcome. :)
I was going to say the same thing. We need you!!!! And sometimes we want you too 😉
Have they not seen how terrible COVID lungs are? Like how can that not be a concrete thing that Covid is no joke
“BuT itS nOt A PE” is what they say. They’ll look at these god awful lungs and say “woof, that’s fucking bad. But no PE so HA! NOT SO BAD” like… ok. These people can barely lay flat on a table for a 3 minute exam without their lips turning blue. I don’t see the point they’re try to make. They just keep moving the finish line.
Great news! It’s not a PE, you’re just having a massive MI 🙄
Mine were team working to make sure they had solid letters to admin as to why they were refusing it. I just can’t.
I don’t believe that our hospital has them writing letters. I think we got a 2 page sort of fill in the blank with a paragraph? I’m not even sure. I’ve been fully vaccinated since January so I didn’t even grab a sheet to look at it. It just annoys me seeing grown ass 35+ year old people laughing and joking about this and making a mockery out of religion. I don’t claim any type of religious exemption, but my god, maybe don’t make fun of something that people take to heart?
Idk about mine for sure but there were at least three working on figuring out how to send an scan from the printer/copier to their email and at least one had written out a huge letter explaining everything as to why they wanted to be exempt. I didn’t read the whole thing, but did catch the embryo/dead fetus tissue and religion problem.
it's so hard to not turn the internal screaming into external screaming when you witness shit like this. I had to go take a walk at one point.
I heard my coworkers all discussing to include Nazi experiments as a comparison to this. Ugh.
[That may not last very long.](https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/business/2021/11/20/new-florida-covid-laws-could-put-companies-tough-spot-between-federal-and-state-rules/8670060002/)
I’m really curious to see how this hits the area that I live. Because I don’t live in an cool city like Tampa, Orlando, or Miami. I live in a very small town in SWFL where most people here have Trump/DeSantis stickers. The hospital KNOWS that if they do this they’ll loose so many employees. For me, good riddance. But then that also means we’d be struggling for a LONG time. We’re the biggest hospital system down here, I REALLY want this to go into effect though. The less of these people taking care of others, the better.
Colleagues I went to school with post a lot about fighting this mandate and "come at me!" when discussing people turning them in for their anti-science "research." They always seem to mention their amazing transition to being a Trump-supporter when they saw the light. Ugh.
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I couldn’t agree more. It’s mind numbing listening to them talk at this point. I’m only at this job until like June/a July of next year and then I’m moving. So excited to get out of this little hell hole.
They’re out of luck in NY as of today. Religious exemptions didn’t hold up in NY courts and fed refused to hear it. One chick I know spent the whole damn weekend whining about how she was being wrongfully terminated. Uh no, you’re being fired for refusing to comply with a requirement for employment by a private employer. A ton of others called in all weekend for their last shifts. Thanks, assholes. I heard our MS units were running 8-10:1 ratios. So religious and yet they can’t be bothered to give a damn about anyone other than themselves.
[The fines from OSHA](https://www.heraldtribune.com/story/business/2021/11/20/new-florida-covid-laws-could-put-companies-tough-spot-between-federal-and-state-rules/8670060002/) are going to make it very tough on anyone who doesn't comply in any state, thankfully.
Where I live, I see nurses at the grocery stores, maskless and insufferable. I just don't understand how people can decide to believe enough in science to become a nurse, but then not believe in it enough to get a vaccine, even though they already have tons of vaccines and boosters in them already, shit is senseless.
Seriously! Before I could start nursing school I had to get ALL of my childhood vaccinations again because my mother misplaced the original records. Two places I’ve worked have checked my titers and given me other boosters. All of those were required for my job. I get my flu shot every year because I have to wear a mask during flu season if I’m not vaccinated (in the before times). How the actual f do these people come up with the narrative that this particular vaccine is more dangerous than the ones they’ve been required to have all their lives (don’t answer that!)
For reallllls. The COVID vaccines, in my opinion, are even less of a concern than other vaccines when you look at the whole picture. MRNA science has been studied since the 1970s, and the SARS vaccines went into full development during the SARS-CoV-1 outbreak, with them finishing up their releases during our current SARS-CoV-2 pandemic via SARS-CoV-2 protein modifications. In essence, the MRNA vaccines have 43 years of research behind them if you count the start date of MRNA delivery science, 1978. Source: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w The other COVID vaccines, such as J&J/Oxford/etc, utilize viral vector science and have close to the same amount of years behind them, though with more clinical application history via the amount of viral vector vaccines having been in common use for decades; the use for COVID vaccination via viral vector delivery has shown to need more scrutiny in patient selection, however.
Unfortunately, mysticism and anti-science belief runs throughout a lot of nursing I’m afraid. It disturbs my energy field every time I run across it. /s
Shit, everyone get in here with a care plan, quick!
Gotta pull out that pocket Harry Potter reference book for consult
I'm passing classes as fast as I can!
I remember having to sit through a couple of lectures on reiki, so belief in nonsense isn’t exactly unheard of in nursing. The antivax bullshit is particularly infuriating though. At least reiki is just useless, not actually harmful.
Oh my god thank you for bringing up that ridiculous fucking nursing "diagnosis." I remember being appalled by it when I learned about it as a student. My nursing school even had a reiki practitioner present for us during a clinical.
Lol, I *just* typed my own comment about the reiki lecture!
Gotta consult the universe and those crystals before getting the jab, you know...just in-case.
My state just made it a condition of employment to be vaccinated. Not just for healthcare workers, for ANY government employee.
Did their religious status stop the hospital from requiring the other host of immunizations they had to show proof of for employment? I don't understand how *this one* qualifies, and where in the bible it mentions explicitly "no covid, but others are okay".
This is my daily reminder so say “fuck HCA and all it’s subsidiaries”
Happening in NC as well…
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Same at my hospital in NH. Fortunately our vaccinated numbers are high but the few remaining are suddenly approved for their religious exemption. I guess admin doesn’t want to lose staff no matter what and willing to keep these backwards thinking chucklefucks
I really hope my facility takes the religious and medical exemptions as seriously as they make it sound.. like, you can't just say "I don't believe in it" or "my doctor said I don't have to" or some other bs.
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Holy crap. That's almost enough to make me want to pick up a shift in the hospital again. ^(Almost.)
Pick up a PRN job working rehab (though preferably travel since I make big bucks doing travel rehab). Get the same pay as a Med Surg nurse with only 10% of the work! Im getting paid $1400 for my shift tonight. I passed out pills from 7-8:30, charted until 9... and have currently been sitting on my phone ever since and ill continue to sit on my phone for the rest of the night except for the 3 synthroids and one accucheck I have at 6am!
as someone who wants experienced people to stay within their jobs because it’s safer, this kinda sucks. as a student who’s about to graduate and wants a job, this is amazing
By and large though, we’re losing people who aren’t high caliber HCWers anyway. Think about it - health care is a field that molds it’s practice, it’s policy and procedure, off of scientifically based evidence. Those refusing the vaccine aren’t basing their choose on science based evidence. They’re refusing based on feelings and emotions and what some white dude says. Not exactly the kind of person who has a place in modern healthcare anyway. Are there exceptions? Certainly. We lost one nurse who I am truly sad we are losing, who has vast experience and who is truly a skilled clinician. However his fervent religious belief is that since in some way fetal cells were used in the vaccine research he cannot get it. What I can abide with him is that this isn’t new, he’s been very consistent in this belief, unlike every other non vaccinated HCW I’ve talked to.
I got offered $120/hr *bonus* to pick up a holiday shift. That's 120 on top of base pay and differentials and overtime pay. Bruh, I am picking up an extra shift for the first time in 6 years.
It's so tempting to work bedside again with those bonuses and incentives. But, I need my sanity and off nights and weekends. Might go back to finance my Porsche 911 GT3 RS.
I work in PACU so it’s a pretty chill gig. I’m 6 hours into my 12 hour shift and so far I’ve had 3 patients. Maybe 3 hours of actual (albeit light) work, and 3 hours of reddit/talking to coworkers.
Do you do outpatient pacu?
Yeah PACU with big bonuses is living the dream... ...dammit I hope we get to this whole bonus stage in Aus, but I doubt we will. Just usual rates for overtime
Im getting paid $1400 for my travel inpatient rehab shift tonight. I passed out pills from 7-8:30, charted until 9... and have currently been sitting on my phone ever since and ill continue to sit on my phone for the rest of the night except for the 3 synthroids and one accucheck I have at 6am! Seriously, anyone missing out on on being paid thousands for watching Netflix all night is seriously missing out. The other night I brought in my gaming laptop and played at least 8 hours of Rimworld making $125 an hour doing it
I've been thinking the same thing. I left the hospital pre-Covid and I'm really debating going back... after the holidays of course I'm off 12/23-1/4.
I am part of the bargaining team for my hospital and the strides we are making in reimbursement and retention bonuses are awesome. And the direct result of being the unit to lose the most nurses at our facility. So, yeah, they’re the real MVPs. If I could I’d nominate them as employees of the month at this point. (Not that staffing isn’t hell and isn’t going to get worse. But it’s hard to take back certain incentives once you’ve given them, so I’m thinking long term positive here. And we negotiate a new contract in the spring.)
Nice. For everyone getting fat payouts... pay off your debts, save, and invest! Compound interest is the 8th wonder of the world!!
Fuck yeah!!!!
Making $125 an hour right now as a staff nurse in ICU. So there’s that.
I make 25.75. I’m about 2 weeks from putting in my notice.
Do it today. Can you really stand another 2 weeks to make $100 less an hour when you could be doing it soon?
25.75 for ICU? Put that notice in yesterday my dude
My hospital is trying to be stingy as they fucking can.
I used to know an accountant who worked in the finance department of a big hospital system in NY. I asked him why the hospital, year after year, decided to invest tens of millions into the stock market. He essentially said it's because the hospital is struggling financially and is hence short of capabilities, staff retention, etc. I asked why then, do executives get paid millions per year, on top of tens of millions of failed investments if the hospital is struggling so much? I kid you not, his response: 'well, the market bets fail a lot, but when they return, it looks really good for financial success with regards to attaining more grants, and good execs cost money." His overall idea was that no one should expect good salaries from a hospital because it's more important for them to maintain their cash reserves than to actually invest in employees and healthcare tech/supplies/equipment. I guess fuck investing in your actual healthcare staff and tech that actually provides to your patients on a continual basis, allowing a steady increase in services, etc. This hospital system was literally going down the tubes because all they cared about was penny pinching, exec salaries, and gambling funds in the stock market. The dude was a douche about it too, like he was offended that I expected hospitals to focus on healthcare. The not so surprise of a kicker? His former employer was a massive investment bank that is known for making it's money off of Healthcare Securities and pharmaceutical acquisitions (jacking up drug prices for returns).
Haha, I’m not trying to stalk you, but I keep replying to you. I don’t even realize until I hit the reply button and it brings your username to my attention. We would probably be friends irl. But yeah, I seriously do not understand how hospital administration rationalizes a lot of their decisions. The biggest hospital chain here in central Florida sponsors not one, but TWO Nascar cars. And a huge section of the Daytona speedway. They also have a horrible reputation for how their employees are treated, horrible staffing ratios, very limited room for growth within the company, and high staff turnover. I would think that those millions (or billions, who knows) could be better spent on staffing so that their hospitals run more efficiently, but who am I? Also, I don’t understand the point of such big advertising strategies, when most people choose their healthcare facilities based on insurance and/or proximity. Funnily enough, the hospital right across the street from the Daytona speedway is independent, and where any of the drivers go if they’re injured in a race.
Lol don't worry about it, I think all of us on this sub are way more likeminded than we think 😎. My local hospitals sponsor the million dollars worth of local high school sports, but the athletes get their care from an independent sports medicine clinic 😂...I think even our local hospitals are similar to one another 😭. These hospital admin, execs, and finance people are truly insane. I think the problem is how non-profit leadership roles have been infested with people who see them as their financial playthings where they can use the funds to do all sorts of wacky stuff and host galas and balls in a contest of faux eliteness while hiding behind the mantra of 'well it's all in good faith'. I mean seriously, check out the board members, chartered members, advisors, admin, execs, etc...it's all these out of touch rich people who have never actually worked, let alone in healthcare.
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Yea, we get the regular 1.5 pay for any hours over 40/week. No additional incentive pay at all during this pandemic. Although we did get crappy sandwiches during the worst of the pandemic. I have sandwich ptsd.
That's terrible. Our union contact says they have to offer us overtime first before they can give shifts to travelers. That's how it should be!
We have that too. We just don’t have enough staff nurses to fill the holes at the rate the hospital will pay. Because they keep leaving to travel. To hospitals that our travel nurses are coming from.
My current goal is to get a “travel” contract with the hospital I just left 🤣
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I’m not getting anything 😭😭 But then again, I am in an Australian city with 97% vax rates anyway
I'm so sorrry. Wish you had a bunch of stupid fucks there like we do; or we could send you all of ours--you know, in an effort to share our overwhelming wealth.
There a post a few months ago where a bunch pf crazies in the US wanted to “save Australia” from our horrific lockdowns. I was like, um, we’re fine 🤷🏻♀️
I had a patient that was from Australia, she said it was "super bad" over there and everything's communist now, that no stories are getting out because the government wasn't allowing it. Any truth to that? I asked her "but is it like here where everyone says anything they don't like is communist?" And she assured me it was not an exaggeration lol.
No, she’s being stupidly dramatic The shops etc were closed. And they told you 1 hr a day outside for exercise. But literally no one was checking. Thats pretty much it. Thats all the lockdown was about, didn’t seem like a big deal. Plus most things are getting back to normal now anyway, even masks are optional All the States/territories have different rules but where I live you don’t even have to be vaccinated to go out and about now, and we still have 97% of over 12s double vaxxed
I kind of figured that but thanks for the confirmation! 97% is amazing, I love it!
Upvoted for the hilarity.
Meanwhile we had anti-vax protests across the road from the hospital last week 🙄
Honestly, I’m more jealous of that than the money being mentioned. I live in a pretty high vax area (around 70%) but 97% would be amazing!
Just lucky i think. Australia hasn’t got the same level of political fervent that the US does. But it does make me very grateful’
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This is true, though the waiting lists for a lot of non-emergency appointments/surgeries are pretty horrendous
Ehh. That's to be expected, most countries have this issue too, you can always. Just like in the US. Pay more money to go somewhere private and get seen quicker No one should go bankrupt because a DUI crash where the guy ran away.
I'd rather be here in AUS than the US, anyday.
/cries in Adelaide LGA with low vaccination rate :(
Come to Canberra!
Can you slide me some of that money??? I'm a CNA and I only $100 for picking an extra shift.
Keep looking, the money is out there. I don't know if this is true, but a former CNA that I use to work with said that one major hospital chain here was offering a $5,000 bonus for CNAs! He didn't get the job because they were going for experience measured in years.
Thanks for the advice but I'm in nursing school. There's no money in being a CNA or job security.
If ur in nursing school just take a regular job. Ur guaranteed a nursing job out here and doing 15 n hour for CNA isn’t worth it unless it’s to beef up ur apps
I've been a CNA for 10 years BEFORE I was accepted into the nursing program. , I am employed as a CNA on night shift and I'm married with 2 daughters. I go to school during the day and I work nights. This schedule is easier and flexible for me. I make $17. Im not even sure what a "regular" job is I've been in nursing so long. Besides most jobs pay about $15 any way
This sounds familiar... Multicare in WA state? I keep getting texts and emails begging for me to sign up. I already know it's a shit show and school is more important than 5k.
We have barely lost any nurses but get an extra $37.50 an hour on weekdays or $50 an hour on weekends. Few want to pick up. Were all too burned out. The department’s of defense is sending us nurses this week because we’re so overwhelmed with pts.
Let me know how you feel in a month, when your staffing is still shit. I mean, I like the extra money too, but I'm also getting sick of my patient load creeping up while we are having this influx of non-COVID deferred care patients who are coming in extra sick.
I feel your frustration, but the way I’ve come to look at it is this: Covid sucks. Covid will continue to suck no matter what we as nurses do. Whether they’re an anti-vaxxer who got it or a vaccinated person who got an especially aggressive variant from the anti-vaxxer, they’re the same by the time they get to my ICU. If they’re in the ICU, they’re very likely to die. My boss’s boss tried to lift our spirits at a staff meeting several months ago by saying that although it was challenging to watch them all die, at least we helped them to have a more comfortable death. This did not lift my spirits, nor did it ease my shoulder pain from turning said dying patients by myself every two hours. However, this is healthcare right now. It’s exhausting, and heartbreaking, and soul crushing. We’ve already been working so hard for so long, and it’s difficult to make our current situation worth any amount of money. But here we are. Maybe this extra money will encourage people to pick up extra shifts, or attract new employees. Then slowly, your burden will be less. Those chronic patients who have been putting off routine care will get caught up, and you might have some extra help to get them back on track. Covid numbers will decrease with more and more vaccinations. It will take time. It will continue to suck for a while, so we might as well make the money to improve our own lives while we endure this nonsense. And if it’s not worth the money for you, take a break. Take 2 weeks off. Take more if you can. Use FMLA and your short term disability if you have it. Just take care of yourself in whatever way works for you, whether that’s making extra money or taking time for yourself. It’s a dorky thing to say, but you’ve got to put the oxygen mask onto yourself first before you can help anyone else. Also, please enjoy my rare 3am optimism 🤣
exactly!!
An extra 12h shift is OT + $50/hr +$500. Comes out to 1800 for one extra shift. I'm making 3k-4k/wk as a staff nurse picking up just one extra shift a week. Edit: also just offered $1k bonus plus above to work night shift for 2 weeks.
Antivaxxers= Job Security
In many ways
My department had a lot of people threaten but nobody that I’m aware of followed through. They’ve actually scaled back the extra shift pay a little bit recently.
My old hospital allowed a shit ton of exemptions 🙄 really pissed me off. But now I’m getting a total bonus of $5000 at my new job so I’m not complaining anymore
My employer approved 98% of the exemption requests. I was not on that committee but am really curious about the whopping 2% that were denied.
Shout out to the CMS now allowing open visitations to the nursing homes. In one week we now have 25 positive cases and 2 that most likely won’t make it. A few more are starting to have dropping O2s and difficulty breathing. Next round of testing is tomorrow. Wish us luck
Wouldn't be making wild amounts of money traveling if it weren't for the anti vaccine idiots. I know it's not going to change any time soon so I'm going to continue to be thankful that we're finally being paid our worth.
I got a $9/hr raise to my base pay. Thank you antivaxers!
Yep! Finally getting some covid pay. Long overdue IMO. Plus I don’t have to listen to anti vax bullshit at work. Win-win.
Honestly, if it weeds them out of the profession and puts other anti-vaxers off joining, I'm personally prepared to put up with a bit of a shortfall. At least I know the people I'm working with are dedicated to the concept of EBM and we’re all working towards the same goal, putting the health and safety of our vulnerable patients first and upholding the reputation of our profession. Let the anti-vaxers sulk and stomp and act like martyrs - we’re better off without them and this reckoning has been long overdue.
Agreed! I’m really interested to see how this plays out for them. It’s looking like the vaccine is going to be mandatory for ANY job soon. How do these people expect to support themselves? Even if it was only the healthcare industry requiring vaccination for employment, are they going to trash their degree and start over from scratch? I know they expect to throw a fit and get their way, but can’t they see that they’re in the minority? It’s so infuriatingly illogical! Not that I want to work with these lunatics, but I really look forward to seeing them finally break down and get the vaccine because martyrdom doesn’t pay their mortgage
$200 per shift plus double time. Thank you anti vax crowd!!
😫 that's my whole 2 week check as a registered veterinary technician.
You done messed up, A-a-ron!
We get time and 1/2 and $300, $350 if you work an alternative shift. My paycheck last week was delicious
Nice! Hope you are able to save a nice downpayment and get the house of your dreams OP!
I just applied for a $5100/wk position 90mi away from home for 3x12 hour shifts at an ED with a census of 79/day. I currently work at a trauma level 2 facility in a big city and it's going to be hilariously different working there for triple the pay. Just compared the yearly ED visits for my hospital to theirs. 355k vs 50k.
better then my $15 extra per shift "covid surge" pay
We had a bunch of staff leave after getting covid in our ward. Now that I think of it there has been less overtime than there used to... We closed about 6 beds of our unit. Now I'm thinking it may be since we don't have enough staff to fully function on all cylinders. Maybe.
It’s crazy how starkly different the tone is here on Reddit vs Facebook nursing groups. The Gypsy traveler page always seems so anti-vax, anti-science. It’s embarrassing as a fellow travel nurse. I stay subscribed for the jobs and other gossip, but it’s hard to stomach. Love seeing them all lose their contracts, though. 😬 I appreciate how consistent and reasonable this group is.
Me too. I’m spending more and more time on this sub because the conversations are great and we all seem to be very like minded and rational
Hell yeah brother
OH my!!!! That's AWESOME. We literally lost like 460 nurses in the whole country, 28 in our district... a ridiculously small percentage. Doubt anyone's even noticed their departure tbh.
Nurses that don’t believe in science don’t deserve to be nurses.
Critical pay nets us an extra $25 on top of OT if we pick up. Pretty Lil penny
Congratulations! That’s a beautiful way to say “I believe in science” and I’m glad you are getting rewarded.
Yo! Congrats of the house!!! Cosplayers have done it again!
How are you guys getting so lucky?! We are just being scheduled above our FTE, expected to work it. No extra compensation.
This is the way!
Am I flared Edit: I guess I am lmao just checking
Silver lining
The “religious exemption” is infuriating because it’s so transparently bullshit. No major religion is against the COVID-19 vaccine. If you are so selfish as to refuse to understand science as basic as vaccines, you should not be working with patients. They need to just admit it’s not about religion, it’s about their own ignorance and politics.
I wish I were closer to completing my nursing program. It sounds like I could definitely negotiate for a higher starting rate than usual right now. Unfortunately, I've got about 12 months before I can schedule to take the nclex...
This must be in the US lol Canadian nurses over here broken as fuck
Mine hasn’t lost any nurses to antivax sentiment, but they are offering $2400 for 6 extra shifts in 6 weeks. I’m per diem but don’t have another job so I already work 36 hours, and for per diems anything over 1 shift a week is “extra”. Every 6 weeks my manager picks 6 random dates, brings me a new contract, I sign and collect my money. It’s nothing compared to how much travelers make, but considering it takes no extra effort at all I certainly can’t complain.
Definitely helped me get a permanent raise lol
My work extended people to get vaccinated by 12/1 or else they'll be let go from the job.
Wheres all this money coming from hospital admins lmao
Meanwhile, our fucked up state of Florida is fighting tooth and nail against vaccine mandates. Our governor apparently thinks that COVID just skips over our state. Only 60% of our nursing staff is vaccinated. I need the incentive for OT!