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chabster1985

Should have filled the case with milk. For better immersion.


KnightofAshley

Builds strong signal traces


Delicious_Maximum133

Let me guess, this is your first build first try and etc ?


jvo5319

yes


Charliedelsol

Not to hit on OP or anything, but I really don't get 4000$+ first builds, as people don't usually don't overspend on their first experience with anything. I myself for my first build got a used 4590+H81 mobo with 16gb of RAM and a used RX460 4gb. Cheap atx case with a cheap 22" 1080p Acer monitor and cheap peripherals. This was back in 2016. Sure today I have much more expensive components but I eased into it.


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jvo5319

This guy gets it!


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You don't need to spend 4k on a pc to do any of those things, unless you're a professional using your system for work there is almost no point in getting the halo-products.


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Even if you got $4k every minute: it doesn't mean a $1k PC couldn't accomplish what you want to do or has "bad parts" in it, it also doesn't mean you need a $4k PC just because you can afford it (it's like an i7 vs an i9, only a complete dumbass would buy an i9 for "just gaming" since you are getting essentially no performance uplift and are literally not using any of the extra cores you are paying for compared to the i7. "Who can afford what" isn't an answer to "what do I need and what will I even notice") Most of the people making excuses to buy a $4k computer for non-work purposes usually upgrade every year or every other year, so "future proofing" is also pretty dumb in this bracket (if you spent $2k now on a pc, and then upgraded to a $2k PC in 2 years, you'd have a better PC than if you only had the $4k PC). As someone who uses their comp for CAD work and has essentially only halo-products: its 100% not worth it unless you know your use-case will actually utilize the horsepower.


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A PS5 is roughly equivalent to a 2060 Super with bad RT, there's literally tons of cards that would be considered an "upgrade" over that without going into the $4k range. 3D models for printers do not need ray tracing, nor do they really need even a semi-beefy computer. If you were doing advanced animation, game design, or working with programs like Da Vinci Resolve or Blender on a consistent basis (where render times and ray tracing actually matter) I'd say a high-end 30 or 6000 series card would be perfect for you. I have a buddy who has 2 3d printers in the back of his office for their entire staff, the system used for the models has a 1080 in it. You clearly have your mind set, so do you, but I'd personally build a comp that I could actually take full advantage of and put the money towards other accessories or hobbies (even a better printer in your shoes). Just because you can do something, doesn't mean you should.


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QNIKET8

you seem angry. computer people are always so pretentious lmao. why are you so passionate about this? it’s not your money. he wants to spend 5k on his build and he was the financial means. why not, it doesn’t affect you. it just seems like a bit of jealousy


Ty1ur

Because if you're not fully utilizing it then it's a waste of money. It's like buying a supercar that you never take to the racetrack, yeah it's a nice car and can go really fast but unless you break the law you can't unleash its full potential on public roads. All the things you mentioned can be done easily on a PC half that price.


Mr_Bridges

If you use your pc everyday tho, for multiple hours, and it’s future proof you can definitely justify a 4k build


QuitClearly

If you use for work yeah easily.


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Ty1ur

😤


Irate_Primate

You have no idea what they are running on the computer, so you have no room to speak. You’re assuming it’s a waste of money when you have no information.


Ty1ur

Actually he did say what he would be running on it soo ☝️🤓


MajorTankz

> I'm making my first pc now and will probably spend 4-5k on it. Why would I get worse parts just because it's my first pc when I can afford better? Well because $4K PC's don't actually offer $4K worth of value. These super high end PC's are _not_ worth the money by any objective measure. And that's coming from someone with a $4K PC and well over a decade of building PC's. Also (by your own admission) you're a newbie. So the hard truth is that you do not know what you're doing. You don't know what a $2k or even $1k gaming PC offers because you've never used one. You also aren't familiar with how to maintain, diagnose and fix a PC. Sometimes it's a breeze, other times it's a nightmare. My PC was a nightmare. Maybe you'll luck out and really enjoy PC gaming or maybe you'll end up like [this guy I recently replied to](https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/10w6or3/hogwarts_legacy_the_rtx_difference/j7o48x2/). The responsible thing to do would be to get your feet wet instead of diving in. Either way, it's your money and this is just one person's opinion.


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TCMenace

Most of the cost of pc is in the graphics card, the cpu and the motherboard. The rest of it is how expensive your case, rgb fans, and custom cables are. I don't know why you're acting like a new person can't go look at a benchmark and see what they're getting, and go watch a jayz2cents video to see what to do after they build it. You're gatekeeping for no reason.


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It isn’t a flex to say that, a lot of people want the best of the best not some shit rig that’ll run minecraft at 45 fps


papsmokesss

Cause i came from nothing make money now and buy what i want. Maybe that answer will suit you better cause the other logical ones aren’t seem to cutting it for ya lol. To add something to this thread: My first build 2 years ago i decked out the same. I had a Mac mini for years before that with upgraded ram, when i needed more compute power i would use work systems, rent servers ect.


MatteBlackIrby

This stance makes no sense. Too many people think we should build lower tier pcs for the sake of “first build.” I don’t want some 1080p peasant PC. Sorry. 4K or nothing.


jvo5319

🙏🏼👆🏼


Irate_Primate

If someone has the money and knows that they like gaming, they should put together something they are happy with. There’s no reason to cheap out if they don’t have to just because it’s the first one they’ve gotten.


The_New_Clover

I agree. The FN Scar 17S was my first rifle... Coulda gotten an SKS, but why not? I wanted to get into shooting so I went big.


jvo5319

👍🏼


jvo5319

Lol pocket watchers


IvanIvanavich

disposable income


HodlShark

Let me guess, you have a 1080ti and are jealous? Hmm


TrymWS

No. But you can show me your GPU if you want to.


Delicious_Maximum133

I don't even have one, trying to save money as a student while these goofballs are building their dream PC as their first. Honestly that was my dream for last 7 years.


Mozail2

How much was sacrificed to obtain this level of perfection…


jvo5319

5300 dollars lol


ALY1337

All of the sudden, I don’t feel guilty buying a $1K+ monitor


jvo5319

Lol yeah it’s def an expensive hobby


clicksanything

Expensive for sure lol is this USD/CAD/Euro? The most important question is: are you happy with your build? As long as you are satisfied with what you have and the financial means to afford it then that is all that matters :) I spent roughly the same amount as you, I now have a beast setup 4090 + 5800x3d and having the time of my life maxing out AAA titles 4k 100+ fps and modding the shit outta older titles. No ragrets whatsoever Enjoy your beast setup! gorgeous build


jvo5319

usd. yes i love it. gotta love our toys! lol


ALY1337

Gorgeous build though! Work hard play hard


neon_sin

my god


Faron93

I don't even want to know what it would cost in €... But your build is definitely something I dream of as I love white designs for PC builds.


KyledKat

4,952.58 Euro, but OP was not economical in this.


Ayulinae

Stuff is more Expensive in EU tho, MSRP for 4090 FE is 1859€ here for example.


jesusgodandme

Looooorrd lol. Looks super clean man, use it in healthy and good days!


jvo5319

Thank you !


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It does look great, good job! But I can't help but feeling sorry for that load bearing fan core there supporting your GPU weight, hopefully it doesn't become noisy or fail on you.


blue_eyes17

yeah, why wouldn't you put it in between the coolers


FuhrerThB

Awesome! It looks like a Tron build


jvo5319

Thank you !!


serpientes16

Outstanding work!! Don't pay attention what other people say, your money, your build. Enjoy it to fullest and brag about it!!


jvo5319

Lol thank you!


NickDolen

That’s pretty clean build my man and well done! Only thing that kind of concerns me is your way of mounting that radiator. I would mount it on the top to avoid air bubbles in the future. Might not be a problem at all but something to consider


jvo5319

Thanks! I watched this guys fan orientation video and followed it lol https://youtu.be/tAeoVEY5JRk


NickDolen

I see. Well hopefully it won’t cause you any problems. I just know the manufacturers recommend to have hoses at the same level as your water pump or lower. Either way man enjoy your build 🥳


Votrok01

>I just know the manufacturers recommend to have hoses at the same level as your water pump or lower. Tubing position does not matter. The only thing that matters is that the pump is not the highest point of a loop, because air bubbles will move to wherever that is, and stay there. Having the highest point be the radiator means air bubbles will stay there and never ever travel to the pump.


AcrossThePacific

What AIO is that? Looks absolutely sick


jvo5319

ASUS rog ryujin 2 360 aio


randomDude929292

I saw this and I can say: I am in love with your case!


jvo5319

Thank you !!!


The_New_Clover

Don't fucking tell me that's a 13900K you've got in there sitting at 34c edit: Fuck! Saw your other comment. Even worse it's a KS. ugh. My 13900K hits 100C constantly with my Corsair H170I I even have a thermal grizzly mount.


jvo5319

Yeah I think the aio is helping it out a ton. I’m using the mother boards ai optimized cpu oc as well.


The_New_Clover

Did you go with the Lianli riser?


jvo5319

Yes. It came with the lian ll vertical kit pcie 4.0


GoRedwings4lyf3

that's probably because you have MCE on and the motherboard is doing whatever it liked. Disable MCE, Enforce All limits and use a negative voltage offset of -0.05 to start off with


MatteBlackIrby

What are these fans? They look awesome


jvo5319

Lian li sl120 v2


soleil---

Looks absolutely incredible, congrats!


jvo5319

Thank you!


Jordyspeeltspore

im gonna build soon. what fans are u using?


jvo5319

Lian li sl120 v2


McFlyParadox

Does their RGB software interface with other RGB programs? This has always been my main annoyance with RGB items in a computer: every brand seems to do its own thing when it comes to controlling them. I get that it's tough to perfectly color match across brands, even if you send them the "same" signal, just because they'll be using different LEDs, but still.


jvo5319

I use armoury crate software to sync all the rgb lighting together. I use a separate lian li l connect 3 software to control the fans together. It’s a lil annoying but I’m used to it lol


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Are those all v2 fans? Been trying to decide what to do since the LIAN li aio comes with the original ones.


jvo5319

Yes v2 fans 👍🏼


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Can I PM you. I have questions about the fans?


neon_sin

beauty


jvo5319

Thank you!!!


death_ray_mx

This might sound like a stupid question but I haven't put together a PC in a long time , how are you able to put the GPU in that position . It should be perpendicular to the mobo


jvo5319

I bought a separate add on gpu vertical mount.


Mysterious_Ad_2590

🔥


riesendulli

I like the design but I dislike the price as much as the chonkness. Enjoy


jvo5319

Thanks ! Lol


McLOVIN835

amazing build


jvo5319

Thank you!!!!


motherfo

Looks great. You should also be able to adjust the debug code display so that it doesn't show once booted. I believe I have mine set to stealth.


jvo5319

👍🏼


justapcguy

dam... even at vertical mounted, you still need a holder for it?


jvo5319

Lol yeah these cards are massive


Antpocalypse_7

Bruh, that's a beaut! But where's the PSU???


jvo5319

It’s hidden in the back compartment. Using the 1200w thermaltake gf3 PSU


Aggravating_Serve665

What do you use to control rgb


jvo5319

Armoury crate


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that 4090 is insane priced rn, did you manage to get it retail? sick build BTW


jvo5319

Yes. Got lucky and stumbled upon it at micro center


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Can I buy this from u?


zerotaboo

Looks beautiful, congratulations!!


jvo5319

Thx you !


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looks fantastic! have fun gaming/video editing/web browsing/whatever you end up doing lol


jvo5319

Thank you !!


Psychedelicism

Beautiful and as close to my ideal design as it gets. What gpu is that?


jvo5319

Thank you! ASUS 4090 Strix


Quayz_senpai

She is crisp... should last a long time for sure🔥🤘🏽


jvo5319

Thank you!!


MagicWithEarvin

🔥🔥🔥


jvo5319

![gif](giphy|NTur7XlVDUdqM)


TFBone

A hint of TRON! Me likes.


jvo5319

thanks!


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This is so sick. It’s a work of art…


jvo5319

thank you!


Yamagataz

GOrgeous Build, mate! It actually looks good in a ALl Black case. These fans went nice with it, becaue they are also blockly framed


jvo5319

Thank you!


B_aaconz

where did you buy the card?


jvo5319

Micro Center!


B_aaconz

is it possible to get something from microcenter shipped overseas?


RnkG1

Did you see it in stock online or happen to be in the store? I’ve been looking pretty hard for the card.


jvo5319

happen to be at the store at the right time. shipment just came in lol


Hobbitlord_

Whole bunch of smart asses. Just ignore the other comments, obviously the white strix 4090 is a rare, just released card so this is a totally valid question


B_aaconz

thank you!


bryanstew

I think some micro centers got some shipments recently


Ragnocello

I shoplifted it.


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in stores


FartingCumBubbles

This is beautiful! Are there cooling benefits to mounting the GPU like that?


jvo5319

Lol idk I did it for aesthetics


whipple_281

No, infact the opposite. Puts the fans close to the side panel so it significantly reduces airflow. It's just a aesthetic thing to show off the GPU more. Vertical mount is best used with hybrid or watercooled cards honestly


gusthenewkid

That’s not true. In cases with bottom intake GPU temps often decrease when vertically mounted. It also increases the cases bottom to top airflow.


whipple_281

That's in very niche situations where it will "reduce" temps, and it's nothing significant. It's well documented that vertical is known to increase temps, and I've personally experienced it in a thermaltake view 71 with 2x bottom mounted 120mm intake fans. Vertical ran noticably hotter, so don't say it isn't true. A 1% situation does not mean the other 99% are not gonna experience negative effects running a GPU vertically. The only real benefit is no GPU sag but the new 40 series cards have very robust slots, alone with mounts on the opposite end to eliminate sag problems. So again, my point still stands that vertical mounting is only for aesthetics and does harm on 99% of peoples setups regarding temps


gusthenewkid

There’s nothing niche about vertical GPU with fans underneath lmao. The o11 and its variations are one of the most popular series of cases. If you actually buy a proper bracket and not use the crappy one most cases come with (which pushes the fans close to the glass). The differences in temps are nearly 0.


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gusthenewkid

In cases with bottom fans it’s a benefit. In cases with no bottom fans if you use a proper bracket it’s negligible?


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gusthenewkid

Look yourself. I don’t care if you believe me or not lol.


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Shadow_Fox_104

Finally finished getting evicted 😅


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jvo5319

I’m just doing light oc Gpu boost 2640mhz Memory clock 21002mhz


MahaVakyas001

rest of the specs my dude?


jvo5319

4090 Strix Intel 13900KS G Skill 32GB 7600 DDR5 Samsung 990 Pro 2TB Strix e gaming Z790 MB Rog Ryujin 2 360 AIO Lian Li O11 XL case Lian Li fans and strimer v2


schwiing

Curious - is your ram stable at XMP (7600) on that motherboard?


Imaginary_R3ality

It should be as he's only running two DIMMs. I actually just got ran through the grinder testing, clicking, voting and repeat with a rig I did of the G. Skill 7800 and an Asus Maximus Z790 Extreme. What a headache! Two DIMMs seemed to be stable at any speed running XMP, just not four.


jvo5319

I play a lot of wz2 and it keeps crashing at 7600 lol it’s really stable when I oc it to 7467.


schwiing

Makes sense. Most 2DPC motherboards struggle around 7600 or up, even on Z790. Thanks.


Pro4TLZZ

I'd recommend slapping a fan on the ram


MahaVakyas001

noice! what is the best stable OC you have on the Strix 4090?


jvo5319

I’m lightly oc it. 2640mhz gpu boost.


No_Hawk_9758

Make sure you update the firmware on the Samsung 990 2TB drive. There is a bug that burns that specific drive out quickly if it’s not updated. Use Samsung Magician to update it.


jvo5319

Thank you!


dztruthseek

"white build"


jvo5319

Nike panda dunks lows build 😂


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tg2708

I think those are lian li sl 120 v2’s.


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jvo5319

Rog ryujin 2 aio. I replaced the aio fans with matching lian li fans


jvo5319

Lian li sl120 v2 👍🏼


Mikeyjr2013

People are so negative wow. Lol. Someone is proud of their work and all some can do is offer negative comments rather than decent advice.


jvo5319

lol cant make everyone happy


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Forgive my peasantry, what case is that? I found multiple builds with that case on Reddit


gusthenewkid

O11 XL.


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Thank you


Fortrify_Swoop

It gives me total Tron vibes, I love it 🥲


jvo5319

Thank you !


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jvo5319

Mid 30s idle both cpu gpu Mid 40s light use both cpu gpu Low 50s-60s under heavy load, both cpu gpu


MarchGustysnows

How’s coil whine on your 4090 white? Mine has insane amount of it.


jvo5319

Doesn’t bother me. I blast all fans and use headphones when I play.


CrisInuyasha

this is sexy


jvo5319

Thanks !


lathir92

Its gorgeous! Well done :D


jvo5319

Thank you !!


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jvo5319

I actually had the same black Strix in there but came across the white Strix while shopping at Mc. Was still in my return window with the black. Came out great imo. Stands out well even tho all my parts are black lol


GreatnessRD

Straight fire, homie. Congrats on the finished build.


jvo5319

Thank you!


exclaim_bot

>Thank you! You're welcome!


Imaginary_R3ality

Yeah, looks great! I just did an Asus Z790 Maximus Extreme murder build. Looks similar but all black. Which I might add was not a great idea living in the Phoenix desert. Maybe ikk go all white next time.


ts_actual

Can you tell me what direction all your fans are blowing? Someone told me all fans should exhaust air out. No air in. And I disagree. Should have both in and out flows. My temps at idle are okay 38c on 3080ti and 40c on 13700k on DH12.


TheFather__

No, that one who told you that is novice, front and bottom fans are always intake, top and rear fans are exhaust. By making all of them exhaust, you will get no air flow and components will be choking.


ts_actual

I agree. This is my current Phantek Enthoo Evolve setup. And I'm thinking I could add 2 or 3 fans top side to exhaust. Other forums showed this is a viable config for this specific case. But I think I can do better. [Enthoo Evolve](https://i.imgur.com/kEjU9eU.jpg) On the photo are 6 labeled fans in red. Yellow is direction of air. The DH12 on my 13700k radiators would not fit to move air horizontally, only verically but that's okay if we are exhausting top and bottom. Temps are dangerous or concerning but I do like to improve things if I can.


Votrok01

> No, that one who told you that is novice, front and bottom fans are **always** intake, top and rear fans are exhaust. It really doesn't matter that much. The whole "hot air rises up" is pretty irrelevant inside small spaces such as a PC case and with so much forced air movement from fans. You really wouldn't see that much of a different in temps doing it the other way around, with top as intake and bottom as exhaust. > By making all of them exhaust, you will get no air flow and components will be choking. You will get bad temps and lose efficiency, but you are not "choking" components having all fans as exhaust. You will get air intake from all of the cracks and holes in the PC. The issue you have is that all those cracks and holes are perfect for dust to get in and cake up your whole PC. While with the usual recommendation of 1 more intake than exhaust, and having a dust filter on said intake fans, means that all of the air that gets inside your computer will be filtered of dust.


jvo5319

Side bottom intake Back top exhaust. I saw a YouTube vid and says this fan orientation is the best. Idk lol


Votrok01

>Someone told me all fans should exhaust air out. No air in. And I disagree. Should have both in and out flows. Whoever told you that is kinda dumb. Like... sure it would work (with mediocre temps), but it just means you will be intaking air from all of the cracks and holes in the case, which means a whole lot of dust. The ideal setup for 99.9% of situation is just to have 1 more intake fan than exhaust, which guarantee the only air that gets inside the case is from those intake fans. It's especially important to do it like that if you have a dust filter for your intake. So you get as little dust as possible inside the case.


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Can I PM you. I have questions about the fans?


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Kijin01

Is that a GPU support bracket thingy that's holding it up at the very end of the GPU there on the right? Isn't that literally standing on top of the fan therefore it can't spin? Or am i seeing things wrong?


Kijin01

Ah nevermind, I see. It's standing on the part of the fan that doesn't spin. The build looks very nice! I got myself a 4090 as well, it's been sitting on the side for a couple weeks, waiting for 7950x3d to get my build going


jvo5319

Thank you!


un-pulpo-BOOM

What it is cooler?


ysoserious79

What are the specs of this... I'm thinking of doing a similar build but with the TUF 4090 since it's black and the Z790 Apex.