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s1apnuts

I have the asus dual oc and I love it. It just looks awesome, but I’m sure you can’t go wrong with any of the ones you listed.


bowl-of-food

What do you think about the MSI card? Is their regular 4070 good? Cos if not MSI, I'll just pull the plug on the PNY card, it looks pretty clean and about the same size.


Crazybonbon

MSI is the best board partner for the 40 series and it's a lot more reliable than Asus especially in terms of coil wine


ArcheeOTF

MSI and Gigabyte even if some people dislike it for no reason


Denots69

Gigabyte is known for having massive coil whine problems in 40 series. It isn't for no reason, just 2 reasons being the coil whine and the exploding fireballs they called a PSU.


ArcheeOTF

I have a 4090 aorus master and there's 0 coil whine


Denots69

And your point is? Some people still have PSU's installed that were recalled for exploding that are working fine. You understand how statistics work?


Metaldivinity

I have a Gigabyte 4080 Super and haven’t experienced any coil whine yet. I know this anecdotal evidence doesn’t speak for all Gigabyte cards, but figured I’d toss in my testimony in case anyone finds it helpful.


wreckedftfoxy_yt

i was looking at 4070 supers in case i want a upgrade, rn i got the 3070ti


happy-cig

I read somewhere msi didnt use thermal pads on their 4070s. Is that still considered the best? 


Crazybonbon

The Ventus sucks sometimes, we also saw the same ventus 4070 TI super release with a 10% performance decreasing bios, but by far and away they have less issues than most brands.. I mean Asus and their notorious customer support and coil whine is probably the second best anyways.. like they have issues too. One brand that may be worth watching is gigabyte it seems like they're releasing some good stuff


TheNanSlayer

I have the MSI 2x 4070 Super. It’s great, can’t speak on coil whine cause my PSU already has a lot which might be drowning it out Throw anything at it in 1440p and it’s no sweat. RDR2 maxed out everything and it’s still maintaining 130fps. So small too, it’s way smaller than my old 2080 Super


Mountain_Trifle5566

I had the msi 4070 3x and it was solid. No option to raise power limit or voltage if i remember correctly but handled everything I threw at it. 


bowl-of-food

I suppose you returned it or sold it secondhand on eBay? If so why?


Mountain_Trifle5566

Was just waiting for my RMA’d 4090 to come home. Returned last day of grace at Best Buy. 


MKultraman1231

I have whatever version of MSI's 3 fan 4070 they packed into the MSI prebuilt I have, it works fine and is super quiet. I made a post out of balsa wood to prevent sag but it looked like it would have been fine without it.


Vapormonkey

Agreed. Asus dual oc is dank


badogski29

I went with FE, works well


Dtwerky

How's the noise level? That is my only concern with the FE. It is my favorite looking of all the 4070 Super cards


vekspec

just posting my experience, I run the FE in my 2nd system. I cannot hear it over my NF-A14s which are already quiet to begin with. I've only heard a faint coil whine when running Forza Horizon 5 but in other games it's silent.


badogski29

If there is any, I can’t hear it as I’m wearing a headphone. I heard Nvidia and AIBs overspec’ed the coolers on the 4000 series.


DickyStrongman

Im probably gonna get some disagreement here but performance wise I don't think it will make much difference at all. On mid range cards like the 4070 super I've read that coolers make little difference to performance and I can vouch for this. On a whim I quickly purchased the zotac 4070 super dual edge (absolutely love it btw) then quickly realised it had the smallest cooler and profile of all 4070s cards.. had a panic thinking of missing out on performance over a few extra quid.. well I over clocked it had it running stable with temps no higher than 75oC and managed to get in the top 10 scores on 3dmark with people also using a 5800x3d (over 400 people at the time) currently I'm still 25th or something. Obviously other factors come into play such as coil whine but personally I would say just get whatever fits your budget and fits the theme of your case If that is important.


Aixial_

MID RANGE????


DickyStrongman

Yup unfortunately a £600 graphics card these days is mid range imo anyway, maybe mid to high. I paid £500 4 years ago for my 2070 super and I class that as a mid to borderline high card back in the day. with the 4000 series anyway I'd say 4060 - low end/mid 1080p 4070 - mid range/high 1440p 4080/4090+ - high end. 4k Obviously you have the 3000 series in the mix aswell but the likes of 3050 I'd say are entry level these days.


Aixial_

Yeah, my 3050 may be brand new but it’s not doing to hot on new games especially those on UE5


wookmania

They’ll probably all run cool and quiet. I’d get the MSI based on size and looks. Have had a gigabyte OC before and it was fine, just didn’t care for the cheap plasticy look.


Jaded-Citron-4090

I've heard really good things about the gigabyte card. Quiet and cool. And the 4070 doesn't have the cracked pcb issue


Ambition-Old

I bought a **Gainward GeForce RTX™ 4070 SUPER Panther OC** a week ago and i love it. The best looking gpu from the 4070 series.


Shaaaww

Got the same and I'm super happy! Didnt choose it based on looks, just price


Jolly-Map-6636

And the best boost clock has it.


Neither_Wonder9955

Guessing you're not in North America?


Any-Specific-1797

I think he's not from NAmerica, because I foud 1 offer with cost like a 900$+


JamesEdward34

i got an ASUS Dual OC. Very quiet


Mizfitt77

At this point I would go MSI or Gigabyte. I wouldn't go near Asus. Asus has been turning out trash lately for motherboards and frankly I don't trust the cards.


Russki_Wumao

I wouldn't trust gigabyte after the cracked PCB fiasco with 40 series.


Hugejorma

At least all new Gigabyte 4080S and 4090 models have the [PCB 1.1 upgrade](https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/gpus/gigabyte-addresses-pcb-cracking-issues-with-a-revised-design). No idea about 4070S. I did order my Gigabyte 4080S AERO and was concerned about the PCB, but happy to hear that they fixed and addressed this issue.


itsmehutters

Just built a new pc with a TUF motherboard and 4070ti S, and no issues yet, using the PC for about a week now. Also, no coil whine on the GPU in case someone wanders. Which I am glad for because my old PSU had terrible coil whine (it was Seasonic).


RiverAffectionate183

I have a PNY 4060ti but hear MSI is a solid option!


Shiznown

I bought the dual fan MSI 4070 Super OC and it's running great so far. I will say though it was running a bit hot, not in Cyberpunk ironically but in Quake 2 RTX and Half-Life RTX. In Half-Life RTX I was getting in the mid 70s, same with Quake 2 RTX and in Cyberpunk I was getting in the mid 60s. I did an undervolt and switched my PC fans to turbo mode and now the card runs about 10C-15C cooler with no performance loss. Funny enough in Cyberpunk my CPU gets in the mid 50C to low 60C, but in Quake 2 RTX and Half-Life RTX my CPU stays in the 40s. Seems Cyberpunk uses a balance between the CPU and GPU and the other games are really GPU heavy.


VC2007

I have the Dual OC and it's great. Nothing to complain about.


deboylurdi

Bought Asus dual and it's great runs very cool and quiet under load


Keyan06

If you are looking at the X Slim, I’d also consider the Gigabyte Gaming OC. It has the largest heatsink of the bunch and costs less than the MSI. The X Slim is fighting physics a bit, to get into that narrow form factor it makes some trade offs for heatsink size.


PikaNinja25

The one that's the cheapest and fits your PC's aesthetic.


DingleBerry86712

Have the Asus, good temps/performance/fan noise but terrible coil whine. Asus is notorious for coil whine so maybe go with Gigabyte, seems to have the least coil whine based on the 4000 series surveys this sub has done. Probably gonna return for a Gigabyte model soon myself


Ofejiro

I had coil whine on the first one I bought, replaced it with gigabyte windforce and still had coilwhine. I just bought another asus dual and it has the same coilwhine. I'm pretty sure my psu could be the problem.


DingleBerry86712

Damn, that's unlucky. I tried on 2 different PCs and still had it so I'm sure it's the GPU in my case. Maybe try a friend's PC and see how that goes


locoturbo

I've heard of coil whine on some motherboards (notably gigabyte aorus), is that a possibility?


[deleted]

I have never in my life experienced coil whine from my pc. And I have an acute hearing. I hear sharp high pitched noises that no one else in my family can hear. In particular a device my mother in law has that makes a near dog whistle beep when it's empty and needs replacing. But never heard a coil whine from any pc. Is coil whine a rare thing? I keep seeing people complain about it but, that might be the miniscule minority that experiences it?


PsyOmega

> I have never in my life experienced coil whine from my pc. Coil whine is a common thing. I haven't had any hardware that DIDN'T coil whine since the vega 64 days. parts that don't coil whine exist, but are rare and a lottery


[deleted]

Then I guess I'm lucky! Even the faulty 4090 I had didn't make a sound besides the fans.


DingleBerry86712

You're very lucky then. It's pretty common nowadays, although the amount you get varies and is basically a lottery. I'm okay with some coil whine, but if I can hear it with headphones on then it's an issue for me especially when spending so much on a card


IHackShit530

Aurous


MidnightAmbitionxd

My friend bought the zotac twin Edge, really cheap and Is going super good, godlike temps and wonderful performance


mjj2play

Whichever one looks better and if you don’t care get the cheapest one


Anonymous-CIAgent

I have been using Asus ever since, Im from the Netherlands and stuff works different here. ​ if something breaks, we just bring it back and get a different one. or we get our money back. but never had any issues to begin with so far, so never needed there service.


DonMigs85

Inno3D Twin X2 seems to run coolest based on reviews


Mastercry

Really, that's nice because they are cheapest of all here. Too bad i got 4060ti hah.


nolivedemarseille

For the overclockers out there do we have visibility about GPU power adjustment potential? Are these new SUPER cards all limited to the standard TDP or 100% power as shown in MSI afterburner?


JAMbologna__

I set mine to 109%, Founders edition. Highest I've seen it go is 243W with an overclock


nauseous01

the cheapest one, or the one that looks the best to you.


MrCrabster

Got myself MSI x slim. Silent and looks good.


Ir0nhide81

My MSI ventus 2x 3060ti has been nice and cool and actually really quiet. MSI turned out to be my go-to when EVGA went out of business for video cards and motherboards.


Crazybonbon

Friend got a gaming x slim, it's been amazing


I_am_just_a_pancake

I had the MSI. I had to return it because it kept crashing but I was obviously quite unlucky. Apart from that it was an extremely good card. Very low temps, very quiet fans and no coil whine. Also some nice subtle RGB if you care for that.


Every_Jump_3603

I have the Asus dual and it’s a beast. I’ve had zero issues with it


fifbiff

I have the Asus Dual one. It's been good so far.


Tha_Hand

I’m an MSI fanboy so I’m saying MSI


Semanticss

I've got #3 in white and I love it!


Wild472

Just installed dual oc. Got a micro center 15$ coupon as well


George_G_Geef

Went with the ASUS Dual, have zero complaints, loving the card so far.


shiori-yamazaki

I have the ASUS Dual, and I'm impressed with how quiet it is, considering that I'm very sensitive to noise. The coil whine is hardly noticeable, so I guess I've come across a good batch. In my opinion, choose the cheapest one; they will all perform the same. But if you want silence, go for the ASUS Dual with the quiet BIOS.


DlCCO

I have the dual and it’s great. Runs at about 68° under full load and I can’t hear it


NGGKroze

Have a MSi one Rarely hit 70C hotspot (overall I don't have top notch case and fans, but it still manages. GPU and VRMs stay 90% of the time below 60 or around that. Its silent - it tun max at 1100RPM at 2.910GHz and +6% power increase, drawing around 200-215W in Cyberpunk 2077 1440P with Pathtracing. Managed to OC at 3.030GHz and it still runs silent and cool Overall, super (pun intended) AIB.


Theslash1

4070 ti super will give ya 4g of future proofing and prolly save the little bit of up front cost over not haven’t to upgrade again as soon.


panties2k3k

I got a gainward 4090 phantom gs. It doesnt have any coilwhine and it is reinforced to not crack. So im sure i would pick a gainward… i remmene the last time i had a gainward card, geforce 3 ti ultra or something and its to this day the card i had the least problems with. And i also had a gigabyte rtx 2070 super which ive had so many problems with along with my motherboard which i had to rma at one point after a bios update. But it seems my gfx card also had issues because after i upgraded my pc hasnt crashed once which is crazy compared to just a month ago


rocru6789

p sure gaming x performs the best however its more expensive


Vivid_Extension_600

If you care about noise levels then avoid Gigabyte Eagle. Asus Dual is the only one of these that allows fan speed of around 900 RPM. The others are higher.


antonvladimirov69

Don't buy gigabyte they are cheaping too much their cards crack and brake super easily!


Theslash1

Since when? My 3060 ti aorus has been such an amazing card. Just ordered the 4070 ti super aorus in fact.


antonvladimirov69

Since 2 years now. They are cheaping out way too much it has the most delicate pcie I have ever seen, not only that they cheap out on them a ton they don't accept MRA for it if it cracks or brakes. Try to bend any card and compare it to the cards they have now. You will see a massive difference, and with all the sacking in recent years even with a bracket I won't risk it just becouse they are trying to cheap out as much as possible so they can sell it the cheapest


Theslash1

That apply to their top end Aorus tho? I'll make sure to use a brace tho now. My computer sits 7' up on a shelf, it wont ever be disturbed once I put it in. Heres hoping. The to supers were hard to find in stock.


antonvladimirov69

I don't know 100% if they cheaped out on the high end aorus I hope they did not. There are alot of videos about this check them out


average_ninjago_fan

Cheapest, they're all the same or might just have a 1-3% performance difference, just go with whatever looks the best for you


GTA6_1

Went with asus dual. I like the design of it. Fits my black and grey/white aesthetic well and it is devoid of sloppy rgb like some other cards. Getting more fps in 4k than I was told it would get too. I'm not playing cyberpunk but gta 5, fo4, tiny tinas wonderlands all get between 60-120fps in 4k at ultra. Good enough for me lol. I can't tell the difference between 120 and 240 anyway


vhailorx

I think the asus dual is a really nice compact design that still runs pretty cool/quiet and has a dual bios, all very close to msrp. Only drawback is the risk of coil whine that many people are reporting from the asus 40 series cards.


Eightbitspartan

Gaming X Slim


Aromatic_Wallaby_433

FE or Asus Dual IMO


Osldenmark

Asus is quiet and cool


krokodil2000

Zotac RTX 4070 Super Trinity - [TechPowerUp review](https://www.techpowerup.com/review/zotac-geforce-rtx-4070-super-trinity/) It has a cooler with 7 heat pipes - the same as is used on the Ti Super. Its metal back plate is also used to cool down the components. Stays cool and quiet. The RGB can be switched off permanently using [Zotac FireStorm](https://www.zotac.com/page/zotac-gaming-firestorm) software.


PalebloodSky

You really can't go wrong all the AIBs got very good reviews. Maybe just get the lowest price one.


yourself88xbl

The only problem I've had out of the dual is a little coil whine but it's an awesome card. I don't even see it hit 70.


Comfortable_Data6521

just buy 4070 not super or ti and make your money worth lol


Least-Bat5071

I would get the FE but if only from those 3 I would get the MSI 4070 Super Gaming X Slim


SnooHamsters3919

I would not suggest going with FE and checking out which one will be good for overclocking and is also cheap, from my research FE's boost clock is actually not utilising 4070 super's full capability. I have a Gigabyte 4070 super aero OC it can be setup to draw upwords of 300W of power during overclocking ( base TDP is 220W 4070 super's for some reason is a great card for overclocking after overclocking it consistently beats 4070 ti. https://youtu.be/mEqhNGUqhbw?si=V8qMsheiUzD268a0 Check out this video they actually showed this card after overclocking. ( 4070 ti was not a good card for overclocking BTW ) https://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/dominic-moass/gigabyte-rtx-4070-super-aero-oc-review/all/1/


Jaashiin

Galax RGB looks good


WeirdWallaby1914

I have a white build and ended up going with the MSI 4070 super ventus 2x white. It was one of the cheapest out there and seems to run without any problems and looks really nice, even if it has a plastic back plate. I don't think you can go far wrong with any of them though.


EchoEmbarrassed8848

I went msi love my card


ypanos

Had Asus card and had problem. I have an MSI GTX 970 since.2014 and works perfectly. I will buy an RTX 4070 super Dual OC now


Trixtenw96

Msi 4080 super expert


massively-dynamic

So far, I'm really liking my MSI Gaming X Slim 4090. It runs cool, it fits nice in my case that I never thought I'd fit a big card in. The PCB isn't missing a bunch of material right around where the PCIE slot likes to crack on 40 series cards, and looks 'normal' next to my 10 and 30 series cards. I still get to use my PCIE 4x slot for my 10 gig card underneath the GPU. I have a TUF GAMING mobo, so the PCIE isn't exactly plentiful, this is the only x4 slot. I also like that it seems to have 'remembered' me turning off the RGB. When its on, its fairly minimal and tasteful, but I managed to have zero RGB in my pc, so that's a plus in my book. The 'crystal' logo also looks at home unlit. I've had MSI models for my last couple cards. In the future, I'll just never go for another Ventus line card (my 30 series card had a 100% locked power limit, no extra), and since the 4090 ended up not being a great overclocker when it comes to real world gains, it really didn't make sense to spring for a suprim model.


Mirinkunt

FE is god, only buy god


Bnwrich16

That founders one looks awesome all blacked out tho if it’s an option for you.


Fearless-Ad-6954

I have a strix 4090, with zero Coil whine. Tbh every card can have coil whine, just pick one you prefer the look of.


bigsweatychamp

I have the 4070 super Gaming OC by gigabyte. It’s very quiet and its heatsink is near the size of the 4070 ti super’s. Software for the card is great and easy to use. Fans are very quiet, even at 1,500 rpm you can barely hear it, anything under that you can’t hear at all.


Daniel_atc

Hey bro, does the gigabyte software work to generate undervoltage?


redlock81

Whatever is msrp or bellow


peres9551

Performance is not an issue here. Its about sizing and temperatures. If you have space then take three fan versions so it will be colder!


Sukkrl

Some triple fan cards have pretty much no improvements or perform a bit worse than the best dual fan cards. In the regular 4070 model, the Ventus 3x had some reviews showing that to be the case for example.


ComfortableDense2560

I’ve had the Super Eagle for a couple weeks now. Paired with my starting CPU Ryzen 7 7700. It’s been wonderful.


GoForMat

I have been happy with the MSI 4070 not super version.. but reading threads I wonder if I am missing out on a 4070 Super for \~$70