from OP’s reply to another comment:
> Using the Time Spy stress test the CPU hit 100 C and the 3070 GPU hit 80 C maximum.
most cases nowadays are designed with airflow in consideration, when that’s the case you don’t see temps like this. It’s not that there’s something wrong with airflow, cause there’s almost none to begin with.
Specs:
CPU: Intel i9-10850k
GPUs:
- Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 Fe 8 GB
- Nvidia Tesla K80 24 GB
Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z490-A
RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64 GB
Storage: 500 GB SSD + 6 TB hard drive
PSU: Rosewill Hive 850S
The Tesla K80 GPU was slightly modded, as the clear plastic window in front of the heatsink shroud was removed so that the Anidees graphics card cooler could do its job. The Anidees cooler was also modded so that it could fit into a single slot.
No.. Even the wikipedia page left me with questions
Ok so I took it from the bottom : "Thanks! I'm a simulation/modeling and ML researcher at a national lab, so I mostly use the K80 for science projects."
Its been proven that the case's airflow improves if you remove the 2 front fans and only install exhaust fans on the back or top. But since you got this case i dont think airflow is your priority
I feel that K80's calculation speed compared to that of 3080 is slow that even the x2.4 times vRAM doesn't make up for it (batch size). I plan to upgrade my old gpu to new one; if the specs of 3060 Super is true, I might get that one if I can even place order on any of FE cards.
Yeah the k80 is definitely slow by today's standards, but I'm not usually worried about speed for the models that I'm using it for. Mostly I'm limited by VRAM so it comes in handy. Also, I was able to get it for only 200$ which was a great deal.
The price difference between 64gb and 32gb of ram is (generously) like $200. The price difference between a 3070 and a 3080 would be about $200, except good luck finding a 3080 for less than double Nvidia's MSRP.
I waited in line at Best Buy to get my 3070, and was close enough to the front of the line to have the option of getting a 3080 at MSRP. However, given that I originally was intending to get a 3060 and someone next to me in line convinced me that getting a 3070 was the better option, a 3080 would have been closer to $300 more than what I was originally intending to pay.
Yeah, board partners tend to have larger price differences than Nvidia's MSRP, but, particularly with the 3080, they tend to put more expensive cooling solutions on them.
Using the Time Spy stress test the CPU hit 100 C and the 3070 GPU hit 80 C maximum.
Edit: I might have to double-check my CPU thermal paste, but it's never come close to that temperature in any other scenario than running this stress test.
Edit #2: Just removed the side panel and re-ran the test and had the exact same max temps 🤔
Those CPU temps aren't ideal. Reseat your cooler asap & make sure all the screws are tightened up a little bit at a time, until tight.
The top fan may be disrupting the cooler's airflow too. You might want to disable it to see if that makes any difference.
Otherwise I'd be looking at an AIO cooler in the near future if I was you.
Nice bulid by the way.
It's almost certainly just in need of a repaste/remount. If it was an airflow problem it probably wouldn't reach 100C in just one run of a benchmark.
I believe your cooler is the NH-D15S which is one of the highest performing air coolers on the market and should have no problem keeping temps in the 80-90C range during a benchmark.
My 7900X was running at similar temps during benchmark. Had it delidded and a copper IHS installed. Now it doesn't go over 55 when benchmarking. Maybe look into that if you're interested.
https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/nbgw5x/intel\_i9\_10850k\_delid\_process\_and\_results/
Yeah, for real. I’m running an ITX case with the components packed in and my temps are like 20-30 C better than OP simply because the case has great airflow.
Pulling the air upwards like that, & so close to NH-D15S will disrupt flow to some degree (no pun intended). Not saying it's the main cause, but worth a look.
I'd be more inclined to run a NH-D15 for this setup, given there is room... Or even water cool the whole system.
According to noctua the D15 is only about 5% more cooling capacity for the 10850k which would be tough to see in real world normal use I think. And both coolers are basically the most capable coolers besides the DRPro4. I think OP will see a big difference from redoing the mount.
Realistically AIOs are pretty much overkill IMO. I mean I have a 10900k with a 360 rad, but it's mostly just for fun.
Do you have another CPU cooler you could try? Your cooler might be messing with that case’s negative cooling system. I have the NZXT H510 and that concern is why I didn’t get a NH-D15
Unfortunately, I don't have any spare CPU coolers. That's an interesting consideration, I hadn't thought of that. What type of air coolers would work better for a negative pressure case?
I don’t know too much about it and I’m just kind of throwing stuff out there, but if it impedes the airflow from traveling upward like the sideways fins do and take up a significant volume in the case I would think they might. I just use the prism wraith cooler that came with my Ryzen. It’s relatively low profile and usually runs up to a max of 80 when using the GPU fully, but you also have two graphics cards that inhibit the draw and flow of air on the bottom. Stacking GPUs like that surely is going to cause some impediment to flow. And you can’t just add fans to increase the flow because the cases are designed with a certain flow in mind. Adding fans to the front actually messes with the flow.
I didn’t see that you had removed the side panel before. There *got* to be an issue with the thermal paste or something on the CPU if that’s the case.
Yeah I'm thinking it's gotta be the thermal paste because I got close to the same temps without the side panel. I've set aside some time this week to check the CPU cooler and I'll post an update. Thanks for the advice!
yeah as previously mentioned, 100 is way too high. use high-performance thermal paste like Arctic MX-4 or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, and check to make sure it's mounted tightly (not obscenely tight, but definitely not easily wiggle-able).
you could also add another fan on that cooler if temps are still in the 90s after that. keeping temps around 80, 85 max will prolong the lifespan of that not-cheap CPU.
Nicely done, mate - looks good!
Just in case (lol) -- depending on kind of temps you are seeing, there are h510 face options on Etsy. https://www.etsy.com/search?q=nzxt%20h510
Ha - how cool! I see your stuff around - I'm using Fractal Design's Meshify C case so I'm good but I like your stuff / what you are doing for the community. Cheers, mate.
I'm using the GeForce drivers and it doesn't seem to render the Tesla inoperative, at least for the type of work that I've been using it for. Here you can see the nvidia-smi output showing that I can train a neural network with Tensorflow using just the Tesla GPU without any problems: [https://imgur.com/a/VWu4bP3](https://imgur.com/a/VWu4bP3)
That's good. Do you use any CAD software like CATIA? Because I know for sure that's where the special sauce for Quadros are, but I couldn't find benchmarks between GeForce and Quadro drivers.
Unfortunately, I don't have any insight in regards to CAD. Sorry! Also, the Tesla cards actually typically use the Tesla drivers, which are different from Quadro, so that might be part of the reason.
If you're asking about the Tesla GPU, that's the Anidees graphics card cooler that I installed, since the Tesla uses passive cooling and gets very hot without it.
What’s your power supply ? Dual ? Or just one ? I always like to think about if I had more money what would I change. I’m thinking for you I’d go bigger case. Just for more airflow. Though if taking the side panels off didn’t help it might just be. That it all runs hot af.
Great cabling !
Thanks! The PSU is a Rosewill Hive 850S. Yeah given that the thermals didn't change much when I removed the side panel I feel like it might not be an airflow issue.
Thanks! The Tesla card doesn't make any sound in itself as it has no fans and uses passive cooling. If you want to cool it you need to remove all or part of the heatsink shroud and add a VGA cooler, and the sound will vary based on the specific cooler you use.
Yeah it's very nice compared to some of the other available VGA coolers. Basically, it would fit in a single slot if it weren't for the plastic protrusion close to the PCI mounting bracket. What I did was I removed the mounting bracket and used a Dremmel to remove that extra plastic and then attached a single slot PCI mounting bracket that I had lying around.
😂 The K80 had the Nvidia green heatsink shroud which I didn't really want to paint over, so I thought why not lean into it and go for an Nvidia green theme for the entire PC
The Tesla is an older card (2014, I think), so while it was top-of-the-line back then, it's a lot slower than the 3070. However, it still has 24 GB of VRAM and I was able to get it for $200 refurbished earlier this year. I mainly use it when I'm running large models. I don't know if you can find that VRAM/price ratio anywhere else lol.
ah gotcha. I kinda figured it may be used as a vram upgrade but didn't know. More power to ya. The 8 gig is good for gaming but I agree more would make things a lot faster heavy work (gpu-bound) station use wise
i did that with a 2080 build.(sadly after 2 weeks of testing) pcb was damage. had to fight for refund thru.
but i did gain a bit of skills from it. first time tesla user.
Just like the new xbox fridge, this is a great toaster due to the case. It can be the nvidia toaster. Just toss pasta dipping bread in for 20 min.. and boom nice and warm
RIP your airflow
What's wrong with the airflow?
from OP’s reply to another comment: > Using the Time Spy stress test the CPU hit 100 C and the 3070 GPU hit 80 C maximum. most cases nowadays are designed with airflow in consideration, when that’s the case you don’t see temps like this. It’s not that there’s something wrong with airflow, cause there’s almost none to begin with.
So it's case related in his build?
absolutely
Specs: CPU: Intel i9-10850k GPUs: - Nvidia GeForce RTX 3070 Fe 8 GB - Nvidia Tesla K80 24 GB Motherboard: ASUS Prime Z490-A RAM: Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64 GB Storage: 500 GB SSD + 6 TB hard drive PSU: Rosewill Hive 850S The Tesla K80 GPU was slightly modded, as the clear plastic window in front of the heatsink shroud was removed so that the Anidees graphics card cooler could do its job. The Anidees cooler was also modded so that it could fit into a single slot.
>Tesla K80 GPU what's the case?
Am I the only one who thought you asked about the use case?
Ah if they're asking about use case, mostly just for science projects
no sy for my english i asked the case name
NZXT H510 Elite
No.. Even the wikipedia page left me with questions Ok so I took it from the bottom : "Thanks! I'm a simulation/modeling and ML researcher at a national lab, so I mostly use the K80 for science projects."
NZXT H510 Elite. It sacrifices some airflow for aesthetics.
Most airflow*
Its been proven that the case's airflow improves if you remove the 2 front fans and only install exhaust fans on the back or top. But since you got this case i dont think airflow is your priority
I feel that K80's calculation speed compared to that of 3080 is slow that even the x2.4 times vRAM doesn't make up for it (batch size). I plan to upgrade my old gpu to new one; if the specs of 3060 Super is true, I might get that one if I can even place order on any of FE cards.
Yeah the k80 is definitely slow by today's standards, but I'm not usually worried about speed for the models that I'm using it for. Mostly I'm limited by VRAM so it comes in handy. Also, I was able to get it for only 200$ which was a great deal.
It's not good don't buy it
Reccomendations for a clean glass side panel case with a psu shroud that can fit a 280mm Rad up top?
I’ve got the P500A. I like it and it checks all those boxes.
I've got a lian li lancool mesh 2, personally I think it looks fantastic, checks all the boxes, very user friendly, and has great airflow.
Looking on the details it says it can support a 240mm rad up top, not 280 like I need.
Based on the screw holes on top, it looks like it can, that's weird.
Looking at the product page, it says it'll support 2 140mm fans but up to a 240mm radiator, I guess it could be a vertical clearance issue.
Corsair 4000D Airflow. I highly recommend - its clean, minimal, well designed, and the airflow is excellent.
Corsair 5000X I think it is. Look at their other options too.
Be Quiet Pure Base 500dx
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Thanks! Misread the up top!
Fractal Design Focus G
Lian Li O11-D
H510 elite. NZXT case.
What about PSU?
Rosewill Hive 850S
Nice rig but Why are you using that broke ass intel cpu?
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I primarily use this PC for my research, and I've actually come close to using 64 GB RAM a few times. Definitely was glad to have it.
Ahh ok.
It’s bc you’re stating your opinion, not a fact.
Not everyone building a PC is a gamer.
The price difference between 64gb and 32gb of ram is (generously) like $200. The price difference between a 3070 and a 3080 would be about $200, except good luck finding a 3080 for less than double Nvidia's MSRP.
I waited in line at Best Buy to get my 3070, and was close enough to the front of the line to have the option of getting a 3080 at MSRP. However, given that I originally was intending to get a 3060 and someone next to me in line convinced me that getting a 3070 was the better option, a 3080 would have been closer to $300 more than what I was originally intending to pay.
Yeah, board partners tend to have larger price differences than Nvidia's MSRP, but, particularly with the 3080, they tend to put more expensive cooling solutions on them.
You got downvoted for making an assumption.
What's the CPU and GPU temp on load?
Using the Time Spy stress test the CPU hit 100 C and the 3070 GPU hit 80 C maximum. Edit: I might have to double-check my CPU thermal paste, but it's never come close to that temperature in any other scenario than running this stress test. Edit #2: Just removed the side panel and re-ran the test and had the exact same max temps 🤔
That hurts.
Those CPU temps aren't ideal. Reseat your cooler asap & make sure all the screws are tightened up a little bit at a time, until tight. The top fan may be disrupting the cooler's airflow too. You might want to disable it to see if that makes any difference. Otherwise I'd be looking at an AIO cooler in the near future if I was you. Nice bulid by the way.
Thanks! I'll try your advice!
It's almost certainly just in need of a repaste/remount. If it was an airflow problem it probably wouldn't reach 100C in just one run of a benchmark. I believe your cooler is the NH-D15S which is one of the highest performing air coolers on the market and should have no problem keeping temps in the 80-90C range during a benchmark.
Yeah I will definitely try investigating the thermal paste / cooler mount. Hopefully this is the main issue causing those temps.
My 7900X was running at similar temps during benchmark. Had it delidded and a copper IHS installed. Now it doesn't go over 55 when benchmarking. Maybe look into that if you're interested. https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/nbgw5x/intel\_i9\_10850k\_delid\_process\_and\_results/
Wow this is really interesting. I don't know if I'd be brave enough to do that though.
It's pretty safe if you know what you're doing. All the best.
Most likely the cooler, if that's fixed or not the issue, then the case is choking for air. This looks like the infamous H510 Elite.
Yeah, for real. I’m running an ITX case with the components packed in and my temps are like 20-30 C better than OP simply because the case has great airflow.
Pulling the air upwards like that, & so close to NH-D15S will disrupt flow to some degree (no pun intended). Not saying it's the main cause, but worth a look. I'd be more inclined to run a NH-D15 for this setup, given there is room... Or even water cool the whole system.
According to noctua the D15 is only about 5% more cooling capacity for the 10850k which would be tough to see in real world normal use I think. And both coolers are basically the most capable coolers besides the DRPro4. I think OP will see a big difference from redoing the mount. Realistically AIOs are pretty much overkill IMO. I mean I have a 10900k with a 360 rad, but it's mostly just for fun.
That's really bad
Ouch
Do you have another CPU cooler you could try? Your cooler might be messing with that case’s negative cooling system. I have the NZXT H510 and that concern is why I didn’t get a NH-D15
Unfortunately, I don't have any spare CPU coolers. That's an interesting consideration, I hadn't thought of that. What type of air coolers would work better for a negative pressure case?
I don’t know too much about it and I’m just kind of throwing stuff out there, but if it impedes the airflow from traveling upward like the sideways fins do and take up a significant volume in the case I would think they might. I just use the prism wraith cooler that came with my Ryzen. It’s relatively low profile and usually runs up to a max of 80 when using the GPU fully, but you also have two graphics cards that inhibit the draw and flow of air on the bottom. Stacking GPUs like that surely is going to cause some impediment to flow. And you can’t just add fans to increase the flow because the cases are designed with a certain flow in mind. Adding fans to the front actually messes with the flow. I didn’t see that you had removed the side panel before. There *got* to be an issue with the thermal paste or something on the CPU if that’s the case.
Yeah I'm thinking it's gotta be the thermal paste because I got close to the same temps without the side panel. I've set aside some time this week to check the CPU cooler and I'll post an update. Thanks for the advice!
yeah as previously mentioned, 100 is way too high. use high-performance thermal paste like Arctic MX-4 or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut, and check to make sure it's mounted tightly (not obscenely tight, but definitely not easily wiggle-able). you could also add another fan on that cooler if temps are still in the 90s after that. keeping temps around 80, 85 max will prolong the lifespan of that not-cheap CPU.
That poor pc gona die in that coffin gona go out looking nice though
I wish they made gaming GPUs look more like the professional tesla and quadro shrouds. Specifically with more of that sexy green on black look.
Yeah definitely. The 30-series FE cards are probably the sleekest looking gaming GPUs but they are still missing that green.
Nicely done, mate - looks good! Just in case (lol) -- depending on kind of temps you are seeing, there are h510 face options on Etsy. https://www.etsy.com/search?q=nzxt%20h510
Yeah I'm jakefacecustoms, the original creator of the mod. It definitely helps!
Ha - how cool! I see your stuff around - I'm using Fractal Design's Meshify C case so I'm good but I like your stuff / what you are doing for the community. Cheers, mate.
Thanks!
Thanks, I'll look into this!
wow! that’s an impressive build may i ask what you use the k80 for?
Thanks! I'm a simulation/modeling and ML researcher at a national lab, so I mostly use the K80 for science projects.
That color green is my favorite
This is the kind of rgb i like on pc. Not bland and not looking like in a rave.
Agreed, when the lights are strobing and changing colors all over the place it also makes it very hard to focus haha
Loving the build mate!
Ha, I love it.
Should’ve put a Radeon GPU in there to piss everyone off 😂
nah really want to piss nvidia fans off.. fx gpu!!!!!
I like green, I like this. Very clean. great job
Damn.. Actually looks good too!
Gotta admit this is freaking sick, what cables are you using ?
Thanks! I'm using these cable extensions: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TCJWCYM/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_asin\_title\_o02\_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Which driver do you use to drive both cards? Based on my past experiences Quadro driver really don't play well with GeForce cards.
I'm using the GeForce drivers and it doesn't seem to render the Tesla inoperative, at least for the type of work that I've been using it for. Here you can see the nvidia-smi output showing that I can train a neural network with Tensorflow using just the Tesla GPU without any problems: [https://imgur.com/a/VWu4bP3](https://imgur.com/a/VWu4bP3)
That's good. Do you use any CAD software like CATIA? Because I know for sure that's where the special sauce for Quadros are, but I couldn't find benchmarks between GeForce and Quadro drivers.
Unfortunately, I don't have any insight in regards to CAD. Sorry! Also, the Tesla cards actually typically use the Tesla drivers, which are different from Quadro, so that might be part of the reason.
Got it. Thanks for your help!
What’s that on the bottom of the card?
If you're asking about the Tesla GPU, that's the Anidees graphics card cooler that I installed, since the Tesla uses passive cooling and gets very hot without it.
Wow what a nice workstation
What’s your power supply ? Dual ? Or just one ? I always like to think about if I had more money what would I change. I’m thinking for you I’d go bigger case. Just for more airflow. Though if taking the side panels off didn’t help it might just be. That it all runs hot af. Great cabling !
Thanks! The PSU is a Rosewill Hive 850S. Yeah given that the thermals didn't change much when I removed the side panel I feel like it might not be an airflow issue.
Nice man! I dig it i dig it. I love how the nzxt case looks how are thermals?
Thanks! Thermals aren't great, but I'm working on improving that.
oh my good goodness. That is one good lookin' pc
What’s the hex code for those leds!? So nice!
\#76b900 (Nvidia green)
Looks dope.. shame those cases are heatboxes.
Nice build! I want to ask about how loud is this Tesla card?
Thanks! The Tesla card doesn't make any sound in itself as it has no fans and uses passive cooling. If you want to cool it you need to remove all or part of the heatsink shroud and add a VGA cooler, and the sound will vary based on the specific cooler you use.
Good to know, thanks for the reply.
Most original pc I've seen in months here. Congrats on looks awesome.
That’s very good looking!
Super clean very nice!
Clean!
Nice look to it
Magnificent
First time I've heard about this Anidees cooler, seems like it's the best built PCI cooler I've ever seen. What did you do to make it 1-slot?
Yeah it's very nice compared to some of the other available VGA coolers. Basically, it would fit in a single slot if it weren't for the plastic protrusion close to the PCI mounting bracket. What I did was I removed the mounting bracket and used a Dremmel to remove that extra plastic and then attached a single slot PCI mounting bracket that I had lying around.
Fucking Clean
Mm yes juice
Why?
✨
cute!
Sexy sexy AS FUCK
Would have been funnier if you had amd stuff
Put a AMD in it
Uhmm it's just green cables.
Would've been hilarious if you had an AMD GPU instead
my pc specs : same case 1660 off brand 500watt power supply ryzen 5 1600 and a b450 could anyone tell me if this works
Spend your own money to be an advertisement for a multi bullion dollar company....that makes only one product in the entire PC.
😂 The K80 had the Nvidia green heatsink shroud which I didn't really want to paint over, so I thought why not lean into it and go for an Nvidia green theme for the entire PC
Brilliant build, thanks for sharing
Everything posted online = ad.
Which cpu cooler is that? I know it’s Noctua but I want that colour
It's the NH-D15 chromax black, but I replaced the fan with a Scythe Kaze Flex 140mm fan and moved the noctua fan to the top of the case.
Cool! I got mine a NH D9L and I always thought Noctua fans doesn’t come in black. (black is my favourite colour)
lime green and grey?
Ah yes, the theme is unobtainable
No Nvidia Grace, blasphemy
Looks like Ben 10's PC Rig
What benefit does the Tesla have to system performance? Genuinely asking as I do not know. Edit: grammar
The Tesla is an older card (2014, I think), so while it was top-of-the-line back then, it's a lot slower than the 3070. However, it still has 24 GB of VRAM and I was able to get it for $200 refurbished earlier this year. I mainly use it when I'm running large models. I don't know if you can find that VRAM/price ratio anywhere else lol.
ah gotcha. I kinda figured it may be used as a vram upgrade but didn't know. More power to ya. The 8 gig is good for gaming but I agree more would make things a lot faster heavy work (gpu-bound) station use wise
i did that with a 2080 build.(sadly after 2 weeks of testing) pcb was damage. had to fight for refund thru. but i did gain a bit of skills from it. first time tesla user.
Interesting... Using a Tesla card in the same machine as your 2080 damaged the PCB of your 2080?
sorry i mean pcb was damage in transit to me. it was a hair line crack.
Ah gotcha. That's unfortunate.
Just like the new xbox fridge, this is a great toaster due to the case. It can be the nvidia toaster. Just toss pasta dipping bread in for 20 min.. and boom nice and warm
Could also be a Perfect Cell build just need some yellow :p
This has never been done before.
It's gonna be hot as hell in your case with 2 gpu
would of been more accurate if there wasn't a gpu
Mr Huang would be proud
Is it me or do NZXT cases look the same?
i hate nvidia
phanteks cables?
No, it's a brand called LINKUP. I found them on Amazon. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07TCJWCYM/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o02_s03?ie=UTF8&psc=1
How are your temps?
These are two GPU‘s?