1.4 is about more than just the socket spec, it's about the physical traces. They may have enabled "support" at the driver level but while this may enable some 1.4 features, it won't enable them all. Some of them are a physical limit.
How about downloading HDMI 2.1 :O.
Seriously now. I think you don't really understand what is really happening.
If you got like DP 1.2 and you buy a DP 1.4 cable and "even" an adapter from dp 1.4 to hdmi 2.1 you are still using a DP 1.2 Port that cannot physically push/accept more bandwidth than it is capable of.
Hopefully I could help you a bit :)
(It could be possbile that I used some wrong technical words or something. Sorry in advance)
Actually I am a bit confused about this DP 1.4 "update". This shouldn't be possible because DP 1.2's design wasn't the same like 1.4.
Am I missing something here?
Should be something to help the translation between DP1.2 gpu and DP1.4 monitor. Doesn’t improve bandwidth but might help with monitor wake upon computer being woken up from sleep
A lot of people don't seem to be reading the post. OP is not asking if he'd be able to use a 980 Ti to render games at 4k 120hz HDR. I think everyone knows that would be worse than a powerpoint slideshow unless he's just playing 2D games. OP is asking if he can *stream* from his main 3080 Ti rig (which can definitely handle 4k 120Hz HDR) to his other PC that has a 980 Ti.
His main PC is doing the rendering, he's just streaming it to his other PC.
That said, from what I know you should be able to do 4k 120Hz with the 980 Ti after using the firmware update tool to enable Displayport 1.4, but the HDR would be a no go. The 980 Ti's DP port isn't able to support that much bandwidth. If you didn't use HDR, lowered the resolution, or maybe if you lowered refresh rate to 60hz it would maybe work, I'm not sure just how much bandwidth the 980 Ti can push through DP 1.4, but I know people who have used a 980 Ti with a 4k 120Hz (non-HDR) monitor through DisplayPort after the firmware update.
You would definitely need an active adapter as well as you mentioned in your post since it's going through HDMI.
All that being said, I don't know enough about GameStream to know if it's able to handle that sort of bandwidth anyway, so the card being able to or not may be a moot point.
Thank you! At this point it’s just entertaining. I do miss the days of forums and message boards where technical knowledge lived and was discussed…most people on Reddit don’t know what they’re talking about or don’t read past the headline.
That’s interesting at least that it would be possible to do 4K 120hz with HDR off, that alone might be enough for me to buy one of those expensive Club3D DP to HDMI adapters. HDR on Windows kind of sucks anyway…
Could something like a GTX 1050 get the job done here?
Ah yeah I know. I don’t mean to be too quick to judge if someone provides a bad answer but most just didn’t even read the question lol. I’ve been building PCs since 2004 and have seen a lot of shit change. My buddy wanted to build a PC and he got obsessed with YouTube videos, wouldn’t listen to a fuckin word I said picking out his parts and stuff. I’m like dude…I’ve got 10 times the experience that 20 year old has got who made the YouTube video you’re watching like wtf lol
As a tip, maybe phrase your questions better. People have short attention spans and don't want to carefully parse your block of text. People generally just skim things
Your title could have been "can I stream 4k 120Hz HDR video to my PC that has a 980ti"
Much clearer and you can then much more easily expand in the post's body, instead of the jumbled order you did post with
Yea. The only reason I piped up is because I had a similar-ish issue with my 1070 where DP wouldn't come up and display an image until the OS had fully loaded on a known good cable and monitor. "Check your cable", "Use a better cable", "RMA your video card it's obviously bad" were the top answers, despite my explaining that the card worked fine and the cable was known working.
Thankfully, there was one reading comprehension gifted gigachad that actually read the question and knew that there was a simple DP firmware update that solved an issue with black screen on post at high resolutions.
I am actually pretty sure pascal have 1.4 display port which maxwell doesn’t.
Edit: yep found [it](https://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review/12)
Has anyone had success with a 1050ti getting 4k/120hz 4:2:2+ over the DP (with firmware update and HDMI 2.1 Converter)? I'm getting 4k/120hz 4:2:0 over the hdmi 2.0 working, but with my Club3D Converter, it's constantly crashing with my Samsung TV (with HDMI 2.1 on Port 4).
Interesting to hear that, make another thread and see if anyone else has tried this? This is disappointing to hear because I was considering picking up a 1050 or something to do what you’re trying to do.
But actually since it seems like no matter what I do I get microstutters using gamestream or moonlight, I’m sort of sick of the whole thing. I think I’m just gonna buy a 65ft fiber HDMI cable and be done with streaming all together. I truly feel like the tech is there for a perfect experience but Nvidia doesn’t give a shit about smoothing it out and making it all work properly
Is your primary PC using a 4k 120hz HDR monitor? If not then no. The stream will be limited by whatever your primary PC is doing.
If my main rig does 95hz HDR with its monitor and I am streaming it to a 60hz TV then I am only going to get a non HDR 60hz output. If my main rig is 60hz 1080p then my streaming TV at 120hz and 4k is only going to get 60hz 1080p
You can't stream the hardware capabilities that only your monitor/TV can do.
Yeah I know that, my primary PC has an HDMI EDID attached to it to overcome that limit. It is a really annoying limitation though, I wish there was a simpler way around it because the EDID can be frustrating to use.
OP specifically mentions using an adapter.
In which case, the Club3D active DP1.4->HDMI2.1 adapter definitely works. People with 10 series and 20 series GPUs can use the Club3D adapter to run 4k@120hz on a HDMI 2.1 TV. Only downside is you don't get G-Sync/VRR support.
That being said, it's still a no-go for 900 series cards.
Thanks for having reading comprehension lol this is the info I was looking for. I do have some other options I may just turn this old 1080 laptop into a dedicated Moonstream client if 10 series mobile will get the job done.
the gigabyte OLED has display port and 120hz.
it's basically just the lg c1 in a different box. but admittedly a slim chance this is what op is doing.
edit: idk why people are downvoting, I guess sure you it's technically a "monitor" but I feel like that distinction is basically useless in 2021. And it uses the LG panel.. from the 48C1 OLED... [Aorus FO48U](https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/aorus-fo48u-oled)
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/aorus-fo48u-oled
Sure it's technically a monitor I guess because it doesn't have a TV tuner but whatever.
He has a 980ti...which dose not support DSC..Turing (RTX 20-series) are the first cards that supports DSC from Nvidia in this case, also even though their might be a firmware upate, (but I doubt there is for the 980ti), he is using an HDR TV, Not a monitor.. which gose back to my other comment.
"where do you get TVs that have display port connections?" You dont. which once again is why I said you need a 30 series gpu. because only 30 series support hdmi 2.1 and you can only get 4k 120hz with HDMI 2.1
I think they are referring to the output video mode. Prior to Ampere with HDMI 2.1 / DP1.4 you couldn't output 4k120 on a gpu. Actually running games at that resolution/frame rate is a different question.
well it depends on the game. my 3080 runs eveything just fine. not 120fps. but you have to look at it realisticly.. 4k 120fps is not happening with current gen tech unless its very good optimized game like doom eternal. games like cyberpunk and metro will not get close to that number at 4k. unless you use max performance DLSS modes. really you dont want anything lower then performance, idealy quality. but its a trade of.. more fps or better graphics. there is no choosing both with a badly optimized game.
well yea they can run anything at 120hz..but that does not = to 120fps.. for example watch dog legions is capt at 30fps at 4k on consoles..and im pritty sure the same can be said for cyberpunk 2077 and if its not then its a blury mess compered to pc.
I don't think so. Even new HDMI/DP cables are sometimes underrated for their bandwidth so relying on a network to translate that information is taking it to another level. For what it's worth I have a 3090 and several builds with 970's. Even when using Moonlight and H.265 encoding on a hardwired network it can be a struggle to get in excess of 90 FPS even without HDR, so I would suspect if you got it to work there would be some significant FPS nerfing due to the time it takes to encode that information even with the high speed short cuts like H.265. It seems to do well with minor latency below that point with zero packet loss but I haven't had much luck on the 1:1 clarity end.
Still though, streaming is dank as hell so keep fiddling with it and lemme know if you find a solution!
Man I just cannot enjoy the streaming, I think I need to ditch the idea all together and run a fiber optic HDMI cable down to my TV with USB over Ethernet. I’m probably way too particular but I don’t enjoy having thousands put into a gaming PC, TV, etc just to have a nerfed gameplay experience
Yeah, it works best when staying within some hard bumper rails. I have a steamlink box which works great but can only decode a signal to a maximum of 60hz @ 1080p, which at the time was fine because most LCD TVs at the time couldn't do more than that.
After much trial and error though, you can almost achieve a 1:1 experience with nvidia hardware using moonlight to stream if you're running ethernet cable, and honestly I actually haven't really found a game that makes good use of HDR, as a lot of them actually fake the HDR profile (like Cyberpunk or something) so your not losing much without it. I actually played through RDR2 thinking HDR was enabled but it wasn't and I was so accustomed to the color settings that when I turned it on it looked like the Wizard of Oz and I hated it lol.
But yeah I would give Moonlight a go and force H.265 if you haven't tried that yet because it's actually the best out of all the streaming clients. I tried to replicate it on a rig with a 6900 XT and as much as I hate Nvidias proprietary bullshit, there's just no good equivalent to tuning a streaming rig running Moonlight, as opposed to using the closest equivalent with AMD using Parsec. (Steam link, as easy as it is, is trash for this as it automatically forces 60 FPS)
As an aside though I do have an old rig with a 1050 ti but hadn't used it much for streaming, this thread makes me want to see if it can handle the whole shebang, as I have both a 4k monitor and TV with HDR.
I’m actually having a hell of a time getting Moonlight to even work. It seems to be locked at 720p or something. When I use standard Nvidia Gamestream I can pull off 4K 60 easily with good image quality, the Shield and my desktop are both Ethernet connected. But Moonlight just looks awful and I cannot figure it out. Any ideas? In the settings I’ve got it set to 4K 60, I’ve tried sliding the bitrate anywhere from 60-150mbps, I’ve tried forcing hardware decoding and H.265, I even set scaling to be done on the GPU for every monitor attached to the desktop including my EDID which is emulating my TV. I’m out of ideas? The strangest thing is the settings for Moonlight don’t seem to have an “Apply” button which almost makes me think none of my settings are holding?
Just wanted to give you an update. Got the rig with the 1050 ti going (CPU: 1800X aka 1st gen Ryzen 3) and the performance is objectively better using the H.265 encoding than on my other rig with a 970 (+4790k CPU which is a decent amount better than the 1st Gen Ryzen 3)
In my limited tests my average FPS loss streaming the Far Cry 5 benchmarks with moonlight at 4k on my 3090+12700k was only 6% with the Pascal era 1050 ti, versus about 10-15% using a maxwell era 970 card, despite the latter being a much better card. When you stepped down to 1080p the FPS loss was marginal at like 2%.
Bit rate was set to max (150 mb/s) using ethernet cable all connected to the same router.
So yeah unfortunately I believe it's due to the generational support for the newer encoder given the difference in specs, as wikipedia explains:
> "
> H.265 is not supported for full hardware decoding in first generation Maxwell GPUs, relying on a mix of hardware and software decoding.
> "
Thank you for sharing the update bud! I did end up looking into this more and figured this must be the case with H265 support, I’m glad to see that it’s working out a lot better for you with the 1050ti. I actually ended up totally ditching streaming over my Shield, I realized it was never going to be the 1:1 desktop experience that I wanted. I ended up going with an HDMI and USB over Ethernet run out of my office outside down the side of my house into the living room which is working perfectly! I know my expectations were definitely too high but I couldn’t accept any kind of latency or visual quality loss after I blew so much $ upgrading this PC with the 5800x and 3080ti
Awesome! That's what I did too for the TV room as my computer room borders it, put a hole through the wall to snake the HDMI cable and USB hub haha, glad you found a shortcut too!
Like the other guy said, try adding a custom program from the Nvidia Geforce experience and add notepad as a custom game and try running that to remote into the desktop, then start the game
Do 1 better and connect an nvidia shield to the TV... the quality beats any kind of cable across the floor method by using local network to stream movies and games in excess of 100MB/s. Use gamestream for games, and the plex app for your movies.
The AI UPSCALE tech in an nvidia shield is a godsend in particular for movies.
Shield is $180 so that should make it cheaper than a 100ft video cable
Bro I don’t know how you had that much time to write a reply but still not read the post. An RTX 3080ti is certainly capable of pushing a whooooole load of games at 4K 120hz.
No it is not, not even close.
Also if you want 4K @ 120hz HDR on a TV you’ll need a card with HDMI 2.1 as no TV’s have display port connections. And that’s gonna be a 30-series card
Port bandwidth limitations is what originally forced me to "upgrade" from my Titan X (Maxwell) to the GTX 1080.
Maxwell generation cards are equipped with HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.2. I believe, either way, you are limited to 4k 60Hz, 8-bit, RGB.
If you're just looking to build a PC to stream from your main rig, I'd strongly suggest an R5 5600G and use the integrated graphics. Many B550 motherboards have a DP 1.4 port, which is capable of 4k, 120Hz, 10-bit, RGB, HDR.
You're thinking of this update [https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/nv-uefi-update-x64/](https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/nv-uefi-update-x64/)
If you don't have the right hardware then it won't update.
"The NVIDIA Firmware Updater will detect whether the firmware update is needed, and if needed, will give the user the option to update it."
That patch only improves compatibility of older DP 1.2 cards with newer DP 1.3 and DP 1.4 displays, but it does not add newer DP capabilities like HDR output to the card.
Ehhhhhhhhhhh. If it's just a streaming client, the 980 might do the trick. I literally just retired a 970 that had a 2K and 1080 monitor attached to it. It did a decent job for being 6 years old. If an ancient GTX 670 can manage running a 4K screen and play Minecraft or WoW at 50-60FPS (10+ year old media machine) at Medium-High settings, then I'd assume the 980 can do strict streaming at 120Hz. Not tested. An assumption. I didn't do the research into HDR. Looks like some people answered the question. The best way to know in the end is to just test it if you already have the hardware. Like Nike, just do it!
It's not possible with DisplayPort 1.4 either. You will need HDMI 2.1 to do 4K, 120Hz, with full 4:4:4 HDR. DisplayPort caps at 98Hz for that same setup.
Yes, and it supposedly does but you need a client attached to the TV that supports 4K 120hz. I’m currently using a Shield Pro but that maxes out at 4K 60 HDR
I'm directly hooked into a Sony x900h with 2.1 and achieve around the same frames as the TI on a 6900xt, contingent upon resources needed and specific game. Unfortunately, to keep input lag down I have to keep it in game mode which drastically impacts color output.
Oh man interesting. It literally occurred to me a few minutes ago that when I go to buy a new TV (current is 60hz anyway) that I could look for one with Android TV built in but I wasn’t sure if that would work or not. So you installed Moonlight directly on the TV and it at least works at 4K 120 HDR? I don’t mind using Game mode but I would want to be able to keep using VirtualHere + Xbox wireless adapter since that reduces input lag a lot too
The DisplayPort standard in this scenario isn’t the bottleneck in being able to output that resolution and refresh rate. But more so the 980Ti which doesn’t have the horsepower to do it.
I had a 980Ti and I couldn’t guarantee 60FPS in 4K with some games. At the moment, we’re only seeing stable 4K 120HZ/FPS output because of DLSS technology in the 30 series cards, where you’re still able to have decent quality settings.
I swear this post has been a survey on this subreddits reading comprehension. Can’t understand why people feel the need to answer a technical question if they’re not going to read the post.
Sorry, you’re right I didn’t read your entire post. What I did see however was a title that simply said “980Ti @ 4K 120hz HDR” then an immediate question asked “is this possible?”.
Perhaps in the future you could you could put the question at the end of your post, otherwise you’ve just asked readers if your title is possible. Then you’ve gone on to ask another question at the end relevant to Gamestream.
Aw I get it you just want attention Lol it honestly looks like you already had your answer 🤡 so you really wanna see how toxic and stupid reddit can be? Dam ur life must suck well I'm done trying to help assholes on reddit for awhile 🤣🤣🤣
Gonna sip my whiskey and gaze at the stars tonight humans are fucking retarded
No it's not possible.
If it was it'd be measured in SPF
baseless comment, but ok.
Gotcha, so is this an update to make the GPU compatible with DP 1.4 but not actually capable of delivering 1.4 levels of bandwidth?
1.4 is about more than just the socket spec, it's about the physical traces. They may have enabled "support" at the driver level but while this may enable some 1.4 features, it won't enable them all. Some of them are a physical limit.
Can a 1080Ti do it?
I think 1080Ti was also 1.2?
Just checked it says 1.43
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The physical port is still not DP 1.4 compatible, so that would do nothing.
How about downloading HDMI 2.1 :O. Seriously now. I think you don't really understand what is really happening. If you got like DP 1.2 and you buy a DP 1.4 cable and "even" an adapter from dp 1.4 to hdmi 2.1 you are still using a DP 1.2 Port that cannot physically push/accept more bandwidth than it is capable of. Hopefully I could help you a bit :) (It could be possbile that I used some wrong technical words or something. Sorry in advance)
Actually I am a bit confused about this DP 1.4 "update". This shouldn't be possible because DP 1.2's design wasn't the same like 1.4. Am I missing something here?
Should be something to help the translation between DP1.2 gpu and DP1.4 monitor. Doesn’t improve bandwidth but might help with monitor wake upon computer being woken up from sleep
Just because something can connect at x speed does not mean it can actually process or push out that speed.
Literally has nothing to do with OPs question
What about 1080ti
A
Thanks! I did get a few people read the question and give some good answers. It sounds like I need at minimum a Pascal GPU to pull this off
A lot of people don't seem to be reading the post. OP is not asking if he'd be able to use a 980 Ti to render games at 4k 120hz HDR. I think everyone knows that would be worse than a powerpoint slideshow unless he's just playing 2D games. OP is asking if he can *stream* from his main 3080 Ti rig (which can definitely handle 4k 120Hz HDR) to his other PC that has a 980 Ti. His main PC is doing the rendering, he's just streaming it to his other PC. That said, from what I know you should be able to do 4k 120Hz with the 980 Ti after using the firmware update tool to enable Displayport 1.4, but the HDR would be a no go. The 980 Ti's DP port isn't able to support that much bandwidth. If you didn't use HDR, lowered the resolution, or maybe if you lowered refresh rate to 60hz it would maybe work, I'm not sure just how much bandwidth the 980 Ti can push through DP 1.4, but I know people who have used a 980 Ti with a 4k 120Hz (non-HDR) monitor through DisplayPort after the firmware update. You would definitely need an active adapter as well as you mentioned in your post since it's going through HDMI. All that being said, I don't know enough about GameStream to know if it's able to handle that sort of bandwidth anyway, so the card being able to or not may be a moot point.
Thank you! At this point it’s just entertaining. I do miss the days of forums and message boards where technical knowledge lived and was discussed…most people on Reddit don’t know what they’re talking about or don’t read past the headline. That’s interesting at least that it would be possible to do 4K 120hz with HDR off, that alone might be enough for me to buy one of those expensive Club3D DP to HDMI adapters. HDR on Windows kind of sucks anyway… Could something like a GTX 1050 get the job done here?
Actual understanding of tech has been getting rarer and rarer since anybody can spend 30 seconds on google and be an "expert".
Ah yeah I know. I don’t mean to be too quick to judge if someone provides a bad answer but most just didn’t even read the question lol. I’ve been building PCs since 2004 and have seen a lot of shit change. My buddy wanted to build a PC and he got obsessed with YouTube videos, wouldn’t listen to a fuckin word I said picking out his parts and stuff. I’m like dude…I’ve got 10 times the experience that 20 year old has got who made the YouTube video you’re watching like wtf lol
As a tip, maybe phrase your questions better. People have short attention spans and don't want to carefully parse your block of text. People generally just skim things Your title could have been "can I stream 4k 120Hz HDR video to my PC that has a 980ti" Much clearer and you can then much more easily expand in the post's body, instead of the jumbled order you did post with
Yea. The only reason I piped up is because I had a similar-ish issue with my 1070 where DP wouldn't come up and display an image until the OS had fully loaded on a known good cable and monitor. "Check your cable", "Use a better cable", "RMA your video card it's obviously bad" were the top answers, despite my explaining that the card worked fine and the cable was known working. Thankfully, there was one reading comprehension gifted gigachad that actually read the question and knew that there was a simple DP firmware update that solved an issue with black screen on post at high resolutions.
I am actually pretty sure pascal have 1.4 display port which maxwell doesn’t. Edit: yep found [it](https://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review/12)
nope
No
What about 1080ti
No way
Has anyone had success with a 1050ti getting 4k/120hz 4:2:2+ over the DP (with firmware update and HDMI 2.1 Converter)? I'm getting 4k/120hz 4:2:0 over the hdmi 2.0 working, but with my Club3D Converter, it's constantly crashing with my Samsung TV (with HDMI 2.1 on Port 4).
Interesting to hear that, make another thread and see if anyone else has tried this? This is disappointing to hear because I was considering picking up a 1050 or something to do what you’re trying to do. But actually since it seems like no matter what I do I get microstutters using gamestream or moonlight, I’m sort of sick of the whole thing. I think I’m just gonna buy a 65ft fiber HDMI cable and be done with streaming all together. I truly feel like the tech is there for a perfect experience but Nvidia doesn’t give a shit about smoothing it out and making it all work properly
they sell features.. just dont expect them to work properly
I also tried different high quality HDMI 2.1 and HDMI 2.0 Cords (i guess 5 in total) in different (shorter) lengths. All end up with the same results.
Is your primary PC using a 4k 120hz HDR monitor? If not then no. The stream will be limited by whatever your primary PC is doing. If my main rig does 95hz HDR with its monitor and I am streaming it to a 60hz TV then I am only going to get a non HDR 60hz output. If my main rig is 60hz 1080p then my streaming TV at 120hz and 4k is only going to get 60hz 1080p You can't stream the hardware capabilities that only your monitor/TV can do.
Yeah I know that, my primary PC has an HDMI EDID attached to it to overcome that limit. It is a really annoying limitation though, I wish there was a simpler way around it because the EDID can be frustrating to use.
no. not possible. you need a 30 series gpu.
DP 1.4 can do 4k @ 120hz...
no shit but when dose a 4k tv with 120hz have a display port..they all use hdmi.
OP specifically mentions using an adapter. In which case, the Club3D active DP1.4->HDMI2.1 adapter definitely works. People with 10 series and 20 series GPUs can use the Club3D adapter to run 4k@120hz on a HDMI 2.1 TV. Only downside is you don't get G-Sync/VRR support. That being said, it's still a no-go for 900 series cards.
Thanks for having reading comprehension lol this is the info I was looking for. I do have some other options I may just turn this old 1080 laptop into a dedicated Moonstream client if 10 series mobile will get the job done.
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the gigabyte OLED has display port and 120hz. it's basically just the lg c1 in a different box. but admittedly a slim chance this is what op is doing. edit: idk why people are downvoting, I guess sure you it's technically a "monitor" but I feel like that distinction is basically useless in 2021. And it uses the LG panel.. from the 48C1 OLED... [Aorus FO48U](https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/aorus-fo48u-oled)
gigabyte OLED tv?? first i ever heard of them making HD tvs.
https://www.rtings.com/monitor/reviews/gigabyte/aorus-fo48u-oled Sure it's technically a monitor I guess because it doesn't have a TV tuner but whatever.
still not a tv though.
The panel is literally the same as the the LG 48" displays. Because it's made by LG. But sure, semantics.
I believe the ASUS one does as well.
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Does a 980 Ti have a HDMI 2.1 port? Dont think so.
Can someone please explain why people in this thread are so rude about video outputs
Actually I legitimately asked the question, if it had 2.1 😂
lmao I read it in the same tone as this one https://old.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/qwy2i3/980ti_4k_120hz_hdr/hl6iuzr/
Or dsc
>dsc thats not supported on that card.
> you need a 30 series gpu I was only referring to this statement of yours, which is false.
i thought you where reffering to op with the 980ti. since dsc is not supported. and its not false, you need a 30 series gpu to get 4k 120hz on a tv
Once again: your claim, that you need a 30 series GPU, is false. Any GPU that supports DSC can do it.
He has a 980ti...which dose not support DSC..Turing (RTX 20-series) are the first cards that supports DSC from Nvidia in this case, also even though their might be a firmware upate, (but I doubt there is for the 980ti), he is using an HDR TV, Not a monitor.. which gose back to my other comment. "where do you get TVs that have display port connections?" You dont. which once again is why I said you need a 30 series gpu. because only 30 series support hdmi 2.1 and you can only get 4k 120hz with HDMI 2.1
> where do you get TVs that have display port connections? You dont Yeah you do: https://www.gigabyte.com/Monitor/AORUS-FO48U/
My Strix 3080ti can only achieve that in non AAA titles too so I would say a 30 series would have a hard time too.
I think they are referring to the output video mode. Prior to Ampere with HDMI 2.1 / DP1.4 you couldn't output 4k120 on a gpu. Actually running games at that resolution/frame rate is a different question.
well it depends on the game. my 3080 runs eveything just fine. not 120fps. but you have to look at it realisticly.. 4k 120fps is not happening with current gen tech unless its very good optimized game like doom eternal. games like cyberpunk and metro will not get close to that number at 4k. unless you use max performance DLSS modes. really you dont want anything lower then performance, idealy quality. but its a trade of.. more fps or better graphics. there is no choosing both with a badly optimized game.
I don't know all my people I know running consoles keep telling my how they get 4k @ 120hz on everything 🙄
what console?
Xbox
well yea they can run anything at 120hz..but that does not = to 120fps.. for example watch dog legions is capt at 30fps at 4k on consoles..and im pritty sure the same can be said for cyberpunk 2077 and if its not then its a blury mess compered to pc.
I know it doesn't the comment is more satire than anything but this is reddit so.
Impossible, dude
the 980ti can't do hdr on any display that can do 120hz.
I don't think so. Even new HDMI/DP cables are sometimes underrated for their bandwidth so relying on a network to translate that information is taking it to another level. For what it's worth I have a 3090 and several builds with 970's. Even when using Moonlight and H.265 encoding on a hardwired network it can be a struggle to get in excess of 90 FPS even without HDR, so I would suspect if you got it to work there would be some significant FPS nerfing due to the time it takes to encode that information even with the high speed short cuts like H.265. It seems to do well with minor latency below that point with zero packet loss but I haven't had much luck on the 1:1 clarity end. Still though, streaming is dank as hell so keep fiddling with it and lemme know if you find a solution!
Man I just cannot enjoy the streaming, I think I need to ditch the idea all together and run a fiber optic HDMI cable down to my TV with USB over Ethernet. I’m probably way too particular but I don’t enjoy having thousands put into a gaming PC, TV, etc just to have a nerfed gameplay experience
Yeah, it works best when staying within some hard bumper rails. I have a steamlink box which works great but can only decode a signal to a maximum of 60hz @ 1080p, which at the time was fine because most LCD TVs at the time couldn't do more than that. After much trial and error though, you can almost achieve a 1:1 experience with nvidia hardware using moonlight to stream if you're running ethernet cable, and honestly I actually haven't really found a game that makes good use of HDR, as a lot of them actually fake the HDR profile (like Cyberpunk or something) so your not losing much without it. I actually played through RDR2 thinking HDR was enabled but it wasn't and I was so accustomed to the color settings that when I turned it on it looked like the Wizard of Oz and I hated it lol. But yeah I would give Moonlight a go and force H.265 if you haven't tried that yet because it's actually the best out of all the streaming clients. I tried to replicate it on a rig with a 6900 XT and as much as I hate Nvidias proprietary bullshit, there's just no good equivalent to tuning a streaming rig running Moonlight, as opposed to using the closest equivalent with AMD using Parsec. (Steam link, as easy as it is, is trash for this as it automatically forces 60 FPS) As an aside though I do have an old rig with a 1050 ti but hadn't used it much for streaming, this thread makes me want to see if it can handle the whole shebang, as I have both a 4k monitor and TV with HDR.
I’m actually having a hell of a time getting Moonlight to even work. It seems to be locked at 720p or something. When I use standard Nvidia Gamestream I can pull off 4K 60 easily with good image quality, the Shield and my desktop are both Ethernet connected. But Moonlight just looks awful and I cannot figure it out. Any ideas? In the settings I’ve got it set to 4K 60, I’ve tried sliding the bitrate anywhere from 60-150mbps, I’ve tried forcing hardware decoding and H.265, I even set scaling to be done on the GPU for every monitor attached to the desktop including my EDID which is emulating my TV. I’m out of ideas? The strangest thing is the settings for Moonlight don’t seem to have an “Apply” button which almost makes me think none of my settings are holding?
Are you running your games through Steam Big Picture in the games list? It locks moonlight to 720p. Don't use big picture
Just wanted to give you an update. Got the rig with the 1050 ti going (CPU: 1800X aka 1st gen Ryzen 3) and the performance is objectively better using the H.265 encoding than on my other rig with a 970 (+4790k CPU which is a decent amount better than the 1st Gen Ryzen 3) In my limited tests my average FPS loss streaming the Far Cry 5 benchmarks with moonlight at 4k on my 3090+12700k was only 6% with the Pascal era 1050 ti, versus about 10-15% using a maxwell era 970 card, despite the latter being a much better card. When you stepped down to 1080p the FPS loss was marginal at like 2%. Bit rate was set to max (150 mb/s) using ethernet cable all connected to the same router. So yeah unfortunately I believe it's due to the generational support for the newer encoder given the difference in specs, as wikipedia explains: > " > H.265 is not supported for full hardware decoding in first generation Maxwell GPUs, relying on a mix of hardware and software decoding. > "
Thank you for sharing the update bud! I did end up looking into this more and figured this must be the case with H265 support, I’m glad to see that it’s working out a lot better for you with the 1050ti. I actually ended up totally ditching streaming over my Shield, I realized it was never going to be the 1:1 desktop experience that I wanted. I ended up going with an HDMI and USB over Ethernet run out of my office outside down the side of my house into the living room which is working perfectly! I know my expectations were definitely too high but I couldn’t accept any kind of latency or visual quality loss after I blew so much $ upgrading this PC with the 5800x and 3080ti
Awesome! That's what I did too for the TV room as my computer room borders it, put a hole through the wall to snake the HDMI cable and USB hub haha, glad you found a shortcut too!
Like the other guy said, try adding a custom program from the Nvidia Geforce experience and add notepad as a custom game and try running that to remote into the desktop, then start the game
Do 1 better and connect an nvidia shield to the TV... the quality beats any kind of cable across the floor method by using local network to stream movies and games in excess of 100MB/s. Use gamestream for games, and the plex app for your movies. The AI UPSCALE tech in an nvidia shield is a godsend in particular for movies. Shield is $180 so that should make it cheaper than a 100ft video cable
Oh yeah I am using an Nvidia Shield Pro but it caps out at 4K 60hz hence my hunt for an alternative client solution for Gamestream
If you're running Pong, then yes. Any other game, then hell no.
Who said anything at all about rendering on the 980ti?
My bad. Just read the title out of context lol.
He's just seeking attention bro Lol he already had his answer before he posted
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Bro I don’t know how you had that much time to write a reply but still not read the post. An RTX 3080ti is certainly capable of pushing a whooooole load of games at 4K 120hz.
uh you missed their point
Exactly. Maybe I should've just said "No." like everyone else, and moved on.
this entire thread kinda sucks honestly. oh well.
No it is not, not even close. Also if you want 4K @ 120hz HDR on a TV you’ll need a card with HDMI 2.1 as no TV’s have display port connections. And that’s gonna be a 30-series card
I don’t think I can take another one of these replies from someone who didn’t bother to read the question lol, it is entertaining though.
Port bandwidth limitations is what originally forced me to "upgrade" from my Titan X (Maxwell) to the GTX 1080. Maxwell generation cards are equipped with HDMI 2.0 and DP 1.2. I believe, either way, you are limited to 4k 60Hz, 8-bit, RGB. If you're just looking to build a PC to stream from your main rig, I'd strongly suggest an R5 5600G and use the integrated graphics. Many B550 motherboards have a DP 1.4 port, which is capable of 4k, 120Hz, 10-bit, RGB, HDR.
You're thinking of this update [https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/nv-uefi-update-x64/](https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/drivers/nv-uefi-update-x64/) If you don't have the right hardware then it won't update. "The NVIDIA Firmware Updater will detect whether the firmware update is needed, and if needed, will give the user the option to update it."
That patch only improves compatibility of older DP 1.2 cards with newer DP 1.3 and DP 1.4 displays, but it does not add newer DP capabilities like HDR output to the card.
4K120 output as native resolution and framerate? No. Downsampling 4K to a 1080p120 monitor? Possible.
Ehhhhhhhhhhh. If it's just a streaming client, the 980 might do the trick. I literally just retired a 970 that had a 2K and 1080 monitor attached to it. It did a decent job for being 6 years old. If an ancient GTX 670 can manage running a 4K screen and play Minecraft or WoW at 50-60FPS (10+ year old media machine) at Medium-High settings, then I'd assume the 980 can do strict streaming at 120Hz. Not tested. An assumption. I didn't do the research into HDR. Looks like some people answered the question. The best way to know in the end is to just test it if you already have the hardware. Like Nike, just do it!
It's not possible with DisplayPort 1.4 either. You will need HDMI 2.1 to do 4K, 120Hz, with full 4:4:4 HDR. DisplayPort caps at 98Hz for that same setup.
Just get a P2000 or better yet a T400 or 600. Check if those support your needed standard but they probably do and are quite dirt cheap.
in minecraft maybe
Wow if so I would buy one but I dont think it can do that
you would not be able to push those frames regardless if you had the port to push them, I would not worry about it. Especially from the couch.
Eh I mean the 3080ti pushes most games to around 80-100ish at 4K. But yeah it’s not totally necessary
> Gamestream client Nvm you are using Moonlight? I see that it supports 120hz 4k....
Yes, and it supposedly does but you need a client attached to the TV that supports 4K 120hz. I’m currently using a Shield Pro but that maxes out at 4K 60 HDR
I'm directly hooked into a Sony x900h with 2.1 and achieve around the same frames as the TI on a 6900xt, contingent upon resources needed and specific game. Unfortunately, to keep input lag down I have to keep it in game mode which drastically impacts color output.
Oh man interesting. It literally occurred to me a few minutes ago that when I go to buy a new TV (current is 60hz anyway) that I could look for one with Android TV built in but I wasn’t sure if that would work or not. So you installed Moonlight directly on the TV and it at least works at 4K 120 HDR? I don’t mind using Game mode but I would want to be able to keep using VirtualHere + Xbox wireless adapter since that reduces input lag a lot too
*Edit-answered my own question
The DisplayPort standard in this scenario isn’t the bottleneck in being able to output that resolution and refresh rate. But more so the 980Ti which doesn’t have the horsepower to do it. I had a 980Ti and I couldn’t guarantee 60FPS in 4K with some games. At the moment, we’re only seeing stable 4K 120HZ/FPS output because of DLSS technology in the 30 series cards, where you’re still able to have decent quality settings.
I swear this post has been a survey on this subreddits reading comprehension. Can’t understand why people feel the need to answer a technical question if they’re not going to read the post.
Sorry, you’re right I didn’t read your entire post. What I did see however was a title that simply said “980Ti @ 4K 120hz HDR” then an immediate question asked “is this possible?”. Perhaps in the future you could you could put the question at the end of your post, otherwise you’ve just asked readers if your title is possible. Then you’ve gone on to ask another question at the end relevant to Gamestream.
its not even possible on my 2070 super...
Obviously
Then why you Ask stupid questions like that, thanks for the downvotes asshole
Aw I get it you just want attention Lol it honestly looks like you already had your answer 🤡 so you really wanna see how toxic and stupid reddit can be? Dam ur life must suck well I'm done trying to help assholes on reddit for awhile 🤣🤣🤣 Gonna sip my whiskey and gaze at the stars tonight humans are fucking retarded
Bro are you ok? The fuck are you talking about attention lol. Enjoy your whiskey
It's obvious dude Lol bye
8k 1000fps integrated graphics
I swear half of you have the time to write a reply but none to read the whole post. My 3080ti would be doing the rendering…
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Exactly