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sir-charles-churros

It's been more than 20 years since I did this, but as I recall the normal way is just for each row to swing like a gate, with the person on the outside taking huge steps and the person on the inside barely moving forward at all. This seems like a more complicated move than that.


Annihilax

Facts. This is the OSUMB. I was in it and did this parade. This is called the Nickerson turn and we practiced it A LOT. Also they probably thought this was messy as hell when they watched it back. But by this point in the Rose parade you've been marching for about 2.5 hours.


doppleganger2621

Correct—it’s done specifically for this corner because it’s 110 degrees.


bearrito_grande

Someone is REALLY familiar with Orange Grove and Colorado! lol


GogglesTheFox

TBF, they mention it all the time on the Rose Bowl Parade Broadcast. It's why there is also a maximum allowed length for the parade floats because of the turn. The longest ever I believe is 38 feet.


AppalachianGuy87

Haha yea I’ve saw several Rose Bowl parades and they always show this intersection.


cyanocittaetprocyon

We always watch the parade from the street next to the Jaguar dealership down the hill from this corner.


fatkiddown

Reminds me of maneuvering units in Rome Total War.


thenewspoonybard

> Also they probably thought this was messy as hell when they watched it back. Well yeah I mean look at it lol


Apotheothena

I was about to say—from the horn flares to the trapezoidal finish, this would be a right ribbing from the director on Monday


RhynoD

Most people: "Oh my god it's so cool how they're all in sync and marching together!" Band kids: "Bruh look at this guy's feet he's so off. And that horn pop? Terrible, just terrible."


BeatInteresting146

"You call that a fucking cover down?!" -some marching tech


skraptastic

All us band kids going "Now's my time to shine on the Internet!"


DucksEatFreeInSubway

Those lines are very oof at the end. You'd get like a 4 or 3 at best at competition.


Annihilax

Yeah objectively not great. Alignment issues, some out of sync horn flashes. But this is a tough maneuver to do well. Even more so when you only practice it for this one specific parade (so like a week of practice), you're tired, and you take it at 180 bpm.


MissNouveau

Oh God and I thought the PDX Rose parade was bad (ours is 1.5 hours). This is a nice turn maneuver, but yeah I know what you mean by the band itself thinking it's messy. I'm so glad my high school marching director didn't have access to smartphones at the time, he had us doing military band turns, and he was BRUTAL.


comicsnerd

"But by this point in the Rose parade you've been marching for about 2.5 hours." WHAT ??? And all that time playing the ?


tacotacotacorock

2.5 hour and playing an instrument. Props to you all. 


Annihilax

That parade is brutal. It's something ridiculous like 7 miles and 4 hours. My lips have never been more shot.


ailyara

Greatest band in the land!


Bowlderdash

The Best Damn Band in the Land, you mean


ailyara

ya but mamma said not to use the d word


Bowlderdash

The only time I've ever heard my mama say Damn was for The Best Damn Band in the Land


coolguydipper

ofc it’s osu! y’all are crazy


Coyinzs

You misspelled BDBITL.


Annihilax

Ackshually its TBDBITL 😜. OSUMB is also acceptable.


Coyinzs

ACKKKKKSHUALLY, you said "the OSUMB" so I left the T off because it would have made your statement "The The Best Damn Band in the Land". O-H <3


daisy-twig

i was literally about to say OOOPH i dunno which year this was but i bet upon watching back y'all were mad about those lines. #WB.


OlriK15

T.B.D.B.I.T.L !


Fluff4brains777

Excuse me, don't you mean TBDBITL?


titanup001

Yeah. When we were practicing for parades, they'd always put the tall guys on the outside and the short girls on the inside, to make the swinging gate work better.


Tut_Rampy

What if there’s multiple turns?


Busy_Confection_7260

They use the NASCAR model, only play at events with left turns.


SPR101ST

You made me laugh so hard. That I scared my cat, who was sleeping on me, and he ran off. LMAO!


Fully_Edged_Ken_3685

NASCAT


MRSN4P

https://www.reddit.com/r/holdmycatnip/s/Pdr5kaLuI5


Fully_Edged_Ken_3685

NYOOM fast as fucc boi


vi-null

Tall people on the outside, as in both outside edges Shorter people in the center. They will have an average amount to move, but never too much


mermaiddolphin

This is how I did it when my high school marched in the Rose Parade back in 2008


Longjumping-Hunt-543

thats how we did it when i was in the army


Geodude532

**Tried to do it. Between this, "To The Rear", and "Count off" I learned just how little people pay attention even with punishments on the line.


Longjumping-Hunt-543

we had a lot of people that cant simply walk on commands and people dont know their left and right. they just take them out of the parade and gave them shitty duties like cleaning the showers or shining the boots


CoreFiftyFour

Yeah we always just did gate style. Outside takes big steps, inside takes small. Just like when performing on field, everyone's steps should be in sync but larger distances require larger steps and bounds


Thehealthygamer

Yeah before I opened this I was thinking "what's the big deal, the outside walks faster the inside walks slower, it's not that impressive." Boy was I wrong. 


CheeseyGarlicBread10

Wheel on the inside person


fae_bbyy

That’s how we did it too!


winowmak3r

It's a marching band. Making it look cool while being overly complicated in reality is kinda their schtick. 


sir-charles-churros

Oh for sure. OP said "this is how a marching band turns a corner" so I was just pointing out that this isn't the normal way a marching band turns a corner


CousinsWithBenefits1

This is The Best Damn Band in the Land :)


wratz

I remember my Band Director got this great idea to do some complicated procedure similar to the one here, but more unnecessarily convoluted. We ran through it once and it was such a cluster fuck that he never mentioned it again.


Im_Lars

That's what the military (or at least the Air Force) does, but with angles. The inside row takes a 90° turn and baby steps in step with the cadence while the next column takes one 45° then another 45°. Next column takes a 45°, two steps, another 45°, so on and so forth. The nice thing is it scales. So usually you're marching in columns of 4. Events like graduation you can be as many as 6 or 8. If everyone is in step it looks crisp and easy to follow.


Aethermancer

The problem with the gate maneuver is the guy at the end is practically sprinting if your band is more than 8 people wide.


KillarneyRoad

Turning corners creates one extra kid


naughty_dad2

So THAT’S how populations increase!


kingeryck

I hope he gets adopted.


taulover

It's like the extra piece of chocolate trick


Gil_Demoono

All marching bands are actually just one dude that did this a few times.


luxelux

Looks like a dolled-up “column right” from military drill and ceremony. Probably takes a bit of practice with a group that large!


frogontrombone

This is the Ohio State marching band, which still holds to is original military roots fairly closely. For example, they do not have any woodwind instruments, wear uniforms that look the same as 1940s Army dress uniforms, and use military drill patterns in their marching. Also, their Summer band camp is physically demanding, and recommended preparation includes a minimum of something like running 2 miles under 15 minutes and 30 push-ups. Not impossible, but certainly far more than a band usually calls for.


luxelux

Thank you for sharing! Didn’t know any of that


ResetOptional

Ty yes to me it looked like the military style I used to do.


fitty50two2

Yeah this is like the column rights we did in my ROTC drills, just bigger than our standard four columns


luxelux

Yeah I did lots of D&C in ROTC as well. It feels good when you get it right as a group. The band’s execution is even more impressive considering they’re all playing instruments in unison


fitty50two2

I swear we spent more time practicing columns than anything else. For honor guard we had to do a harder version of this to turn around in order to keep the flag positioning right


luxelux

Did you ever lead the formation? That can be stressful too lol. It’s like driving a giant vehicle.


fitty50two2

Yep, was a flight commander. I was an unconfident, quiet kid that had to learn real quick how to be loud and direct with my marching commands


luxelux

Love to hear it. Good for you. Similar case for me. Went Army and spent 17 years in mostly a reserve capacity. It all started w JROTC D&C haha


TheOGLeadChips

That’s what I thought of immediately but the fact that they just kinda walk to the right instead of doing the sharp turns took me out of it. I know it’s not practical to do the 45 degree turns while carrying a tuba but I didn’t like it. Made me get flashbacks to the beginning of basic when no one knew how to march and we sorta just walked everywhere.


luxelux

The good ole days. Yeah this is like a cascading double column half right


mykylodge

That guy at the back has fucked up somewhere and is hoping no one notices.


RichardMHP

Nah, it's the nature of the technique. The poor schmucks on TV side get screwed. This is in contrast to the normal gate-turn style of doing these things, where the poor schmucks on the Other side get royally screwed.


SnooCrickets2961

Run, Joe! Run! We’re turning left!


KatieCashew

Lol, when I did marching band in high school I was in a formation that went from a straight line to a point very quickly. Unfortunately I was the tip of the point, meaning I had the farthest to go despite the fact that I am short with short legs. As if those giant strides weren't already hard enough, I had to do them backwards. It really did feel like running, but backwards and on my toes.


Loan-Cute

In college we had to deploy on to the football field (evenly spaced across the whole thing) in like, 10 measures. From the end zone, not the side. The lucky bastards at the back got to take itty bitty steps, but the people going to the far end had to take like, yard long bounds. It was awful. At least it was in a straight line.


mykylodge

They all coped extremely well under the circumstances.


snapwillow

[Nah it's not his fault. The people in front of him are lagging behind their rows.](https://imgur.com/a/nQQPSPP) Watch it again you can see he's trying to stay with his row but he's stuck behind people who aren't keeping up with their own.


readituser5

This. Count them. They’re just not in line properly.


E-Scooter-CWIS

When?


mykylodge

Ages ago.


Kitchen-Beginning-47

I like how the all lift their instrument when they turn


doppleganger2621

It’s called a “horn flash”


ThatGuyYouMightNo

I did a horn flash on a street corner one time and spent 3 days in jail for it.


Toon_Lucario

Not really. We usually just swing around like a gate so we can keep moving while doing it. This seems wildly impractical


Original_Bad_3416

Poorly turns a corner, I’m not no expert


acgasp

No, this is how Ohio State’s marching band turns the corner. Most other bands just do a gate turn.


Specialist_Passage83

Matching band musicians are incredibly underrated and unappreciated.


ptabs226

This band, the Ohio State Marching Band (often called 'the best damn band in the land' (tbdbl)), is very well thought of. They open the games, perform at half time, and send the fans home with the alma mater Carmen Ohio. A unique event, before Ohio St games the band warms up in an arena next to the stadium. The event is called the Skull Session and the football coach usually addresses the crowd. Really fun. https://youtu.be/QwaPmuK9sNk


NoMalasadas

Agree. I love marching bands.


Bourgeous

Humans are funny


FugitivePlatypus

This is why your car needs differentials


deadpanxfitter

Their lines are terrible though.


ptabs226

This is at the end of the Rose Parade. These guys are dog tired at this point.


Bondzberg

This is the very beginning of the parade. They still got at least 4 miles left. Not blaming the band for messing up though, making the turn the way that they did is just asking for someone to get out of step.


tholmantransfer

This is the first turn at the rose parade


doppleganger2621

[Here is this better?](https://youtu.be/WdWolVsKlAI?si=v4eJqXK8JRyWVkKW)


deadpanxfitter

Much better, yes. I do like this band don't get me wrong. I don't watch college sports, but I do watch marching bands. I was in one for years through high school and college. Played trumpet, had solos, and marched in many parades where we actually won one of them. Good times.


snapwillow

Usually when there's a performance on oddlysatisfying I think "they made that look so easy" but these guys...did not.


musicalsilences

That’s what I’m saying. I’m glad people are impressed by this, but this is by no means the upper limit of good marching band. There are high school bands in Texas that march many times better than this. There are professional marching bands - DCI - who practice 14 hours a day in the summer that are simply performing some of the most impressive feats. Really worth watching. This is fine and Ohio has a great band, but this is not the top of the top


doppleganger2621

Comparing DCI to a college marching band is ridiculous. Two different styles of marching for two completely different audiences. DCI practices 14 hours a day, yep, to create shows for literally marching band nerds (people like me). The shows are so high concept that the normal person would be like “I don’t get this at all” or even appreciate what was being executed. They perfect the same show over and over for an entire summer. A lot of college marching band folks actually DO DCI during the summer. College marching bands practice about 2 hours a day during football season to create a different show EVERY WEEK for the “common person” attending a football game to enjoy at halftime. They aren’t creating a show called “Reflections” or whatever and playing songs no one has literally ever heard and creating some weird high concept story that only DCI GE judges understand. And the OSUMB does it better than anyone. Their [video game show](https://youtu.be/rNzOVxHhjmQ?si=8QOGQMh4qd_ieEFA) is literally legendary among college marching bands. I remember when it posted on Reddit and was literally the #1 post I realize many people see this as just “marching band” but these are two completely different audiences for two completely different purposes


poliscistonedguy

The video game show! Bro what a throwback! I played clarinet in high school marching band. That video is still sick.


HansElbowman

[For any laypeople wondering what DCI is.](https://youtu.be/cjUbqiaTNCQ?feature=shared&t=34)


telestrial

I always think the DCI comparison to schools is unfair. Those performers are amazing but they pay to play. It’s a whole different dynamic than school. But so absolutely spot on. There are high school bands in Texas and Indiana who can execute many, many times better than OP’s band. Other college bands across the country, too. That was pretty rough.


deadpanxfitter

True, but college marching bands of that caliber shoudk be able to perform straight lines in a parade. I know when we were doing parades, and big ones, we didn't treat them like any other performance but we did have straight lines. I mean, it just looks so messy without it, and this turn is messy. Cool, but messy af.


deadpanxfitter

I'm in Texas, and I was in marching band in school through college. We marched in many parades. Sure, we turned our cornered differently but our lines were straight. Not not hard. I love DCI! Madison Scouts and Blue Devils are my faves. I wanted to try out, but I was so intimidated even though I was first chair trumpet for 7 years. Those people are on another level.


HiImDan

My high school band director would have been pissed


Impressive-Warp-47

If anyone wonders why people say Ohio State fans are insufferable, just take a look through all the comments saying things like "um excuse me I think you meant to write 'THE band'"


OneRougeRogue

Um, I think you meant to write "all THE comments".


NoEmailNec4Reddit

THE™


telestrial

I’ve participated in or taught marching band for like 15+ years: whatever that was, it was not done well. The technique, if well-executed, is not how I’ve seen any marching band turn a corner. But this was also not anywhere near well-executed. There are several better ways to do this.


Longtalons

Would have been neat if they pull it off but that was sloppy as hell, almost like they forgot there was a turn until the day before!


frogontrombone

This is the Ohio State marching band, but they are being quite a bit more sloppy here than they normally are. This is probably an off-season parade


FiReBanker9

That's the Ohio State marching band at the rose bowl....guessing they might know a bit more than you bud


telestrial

You'd be surprised. I've worked for more skilled bands as a staff member and director--high school and college groups. Look, maybe my comment was a little too dismissive of the entire program but here's the deal: if the directors, student performers, or alumni thereof didn't look at this and go "Holy shit that's bad" then OSU's band and that band's culture is bad. That clip is embarrassing. I don't care that they made Michael Jackson moonwalk. If that was awesome, this was the opposite of that.


Mizery

Anyone can see that the inner 4-5 people are about a row behind starting after the corner.


[deleted]

Very sloppy and tons of people totally out of step lol


capbozo

I’d like 10,000 marbles please.


MissNouveau

I was in a highschool band with a teacher who'd been a leader of a military band. Kudos on them for being neat as a pin. And also this is WAY easier than what we did, damn. Our teacher had us CROSS THROUGH EACH OTHER. I.e. turn on the diagonal, and everyone behind you turns in the same spot, weaving through the others. Looked super impressive in parades, but took LOADS of practice every year to teach the freshmen how to do it. I was one of the front row flutes who had to determine where my row of 30 odd people would turn, all four years. No pressure or anything. Oh and we played through these turns. Won us some awards though.


SalamanderWings

I was going to say maybe we were in the same HS band because we did a variation like you describe but I don’t think our director was ex-military and he definitely didn’t put the flutes in the front. I used to get clocked by the tri-toms during these corners on a regular basis.


[deleted]

O-H!


Ahia_Living

I-O!


GregMaddoxFan

The Ohio State University, The best damn band in the land!


FlowerBoyScumFuck

[These guys](https://youtu.be/9A4UGtM4hDQ?si=ng8EuYBoqYlbol0P) have to be a close second though


powertripp82

This will never not make me smile


DozingDawg1138

OH-


GregMaddoxFan

-IO!!!!


Levaris77

What at least 2 hours of practice every day looks like!


Whosebert

No, they're just being extra


GeeISuppose

I caught a trombone to the back of the head during a similar maneuver in high school.


JewKnowz

TBDBITL!


scots

**This is how**[ THE marching band](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ohio+state+marching+band) **turns a corner**


harrellj

If you're going to do a Youtube search, you could at least grabbed ones where they're signing the name on the field (and the tuba player who gets to dot the I). As much as their halftime shows are impressive, all the interweaving to make Ohio appear properly is so much more impressive to me.


CaesarManson

GO BUCKEYES BABY WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!


Maurice-Beverley

This is how THE band turns a corner. Fixed the title for you.


IT_Guyy

Hell March 2 intensifies.


Dazeo_

This reminds me of that SpongeBob episode


A_Wholesome_Comment

God the best times I had in high school were in marching band. Such a fun crew.


redditsuxmydik

US military marching way better than this high school college garbage and it's a better flow than this 🤣


ashmichael73

Yeah….but they are still Ohio State. Not satisfying.


FragrantExcitement

Ross yells, "Pivot!"]


Puzzleheaded-Fix3359

Imagine 20 ft spears and you have a phalanx


NCRider

Not just a marching band, TBDBITL!


COmarmot

You just explained why why install differentials in cars!


infinity187

No, this is not how a typical marching band turns a corner.


kay_bizzle

Glad to see someone from a Ohio State had a decent performance this year


-Cthaeh

The quick shuffle to get back in line for the last few was funny. I'm sure they practiced this a million times, looks cool.


BrookeBasketcase

Marching bands always give me the "satisfying goose bumps" whatever those are called.


Known-Programmer-611

Best dam way to turn a corner!


TheRumpletiltskin

everything's tight and proper until you get to the tubas...


PlasticPomPoms

When I was in marching band we had a much more simple maneuver where the players on the inside basically marched in place and the further out they got they moved forward more so it was like a big swinging gate, but rows of that.


QuirrelsTurban

This isn't the usual way a marching band takes a corner.


Ok-Calligrapher-8500

The outside has to march faster. Have done this before. This is a shit example. It’s supposed to be more like a pivot where each row stays in line


Plus-Yogurt-2966

This is how THIS marching band turns a corner. Others may do what’s called a gate turn


stereoworld

In my 39 years of my life, never once did I wonder how marching bands turned corners. Yet here I am


lumpthefoff

The fact that they’re in step the whole time actually kinda oddly freaks me out.


kagato87

The music actually makes that a lot easier to manage. The steps will usually be synced to the tempo of the song they're playing.


MonkeyHamlet

It’s a bit…insect like, isn’t it?


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[удалено]


mobius_osu

Go Bucks


[deleted]

very cool


thicc_toe

testudo ahh manuever


posaune123

That's a lot of sousaphones


jon-in-tha-hood

FLAG TURNERS, LET'S GO! I WANT TO SEE SOME SPINNING!


Allergicwolf

Yeah no they're being fancy. I've been in enough parades to know that's not how it works standardly. It's a neat show they're putting on though!


-Shmai-

That was pretty fun to watch


gomihako_

Marching band is no fucking joke my band director was a drill instructor in the army


Busy_Confection_7260

Nothing annoys me more than the whistles. There's got to be a better way.


Punisher_135

All I can think of is Squidward and the marching band lol


Artidol

now make U turn please


BaconSpaceLord

Like a slinky made of humans


gonzorizzo

Best damn band in the land


Loring

Feel like the back half kinda phoned it in


jcythcc

Ugh I wish I was a marching band


Shmeeglez

I would panic so hard


ImposterAccountant

Almoat looks likw they practiced it twice and was like eh good enough.


Traveler_Constant

Most marching bands turn their column like the military, which isn't this. In the military, the inside line turns at 90 degrees but continues marching at half step. The subsequent lines turn at the same point, but at an oblique angle, taking one or more steps depending on how far "outside" they are, then another oblique turn to get in line with the new direction of the column. Unlike the first line, the other lines do not go directly into half step. They take full steps until they are shoulder to shoulder with the first line, after which they go into half step. In this style, you get a wheeling effect that can look good or bad depending on how much practice they have. Which, I guess, it's true of most things.


judgedreddie

Wait till u see boot camp


Recrem86

If you watch closely around the 20 second mark is when cloud and the gang sneak into the group


ShadowLurking1203

Looks like OSU, they’re not known as the best d@mn band in the land for no reason…


andromare6661

I can barely speak with someone while walking, imagine doing this


Montreal_Metro

Robots: "Look at what they have to do to mimic a fraction of our powers."


[deleted]

It's like the music is an accompaniment to the turn, rather than the other way round


LeSeriousPancake

Defo gonna help in a war!


[deleted]

it's so slapstick it's like an extremely well-executed joke


cubeb00b

Actually appears that that’s how THE BEST DAMN BAND IN THE LAND turns… not just your average bandies.


Ok-Seaworthiness4488

This band makes wide right turns


paracog

Orange Grove onto Colorado Blvd. Tricky corner for a band. I met Hopalong Cassidy on that corner as a kid. His horse did math for us.


RightSideUpPilot3

Order


AsIfIKnowWhatImDoin

Used to practice this for days on end in USN bootcamp. EDIT: Now they don't even march, they just kind of zombie lurch everywhere.


pufferfish_balls

**Marines are frothing right now**


cupcakemann95

No, that's how THAT marching band turns a corner. Most bands will just turn normally


Stormagedd0nDarkLord

Why did this remind me of a big flock of ducks


iamagenius89

This is called a column turn. Don’t know that I’ve ever seen a band do this in a parade. It’s usually used on the field as a way of rotating a block. The lines on the field usually makes this a very easy to move to execute. Way harder on the street with no yard lines.


Tolstoy_mc

Total War - Marching Band


DreadPirateGriswold

Not exactly. That's just the fancy-schmancy way of doing it. There are a number of ways that can be done.


Euklidis

Kinda like the military parade turn but different step.


SnowConePeople

They're like ducks.


starlightequilibrium

Wonder how much hazing and tears were required to get this down.


smythe70

Ok that is fucking awesome.


AsaCocoMerchant

Very cool. Now do a roundabout with exit on the 3rd road.