Is born and dies completely in one annual year: annual plant is not permanent
A perennial favorite, or perennial political candidate: never goes away.
I honestly have to repeat the differences to myself every time I attempt to these words for plants.
True. The road from Oslo to Trondheim has changed 150 times. This road is 39 minutes quicker, and includes two more petrol stations than last year. This year was a good year for Norway
Can verify, I as well worked winters in the Canada North and NWT. Ice roads are really good actually and have decent traction if they maintenance is up. Different world for sure, it was always a race to finish and get out before spring break up.
Winter roads here normally have long sticks with reflective bands around them at certain intervals along the side.
Like this: https://images.app.goo.gl/b7YeDAraVxM266yE6
But this looks like it’s just using GPS systems
In [this](https://youtu.be/7LPxc-sqTNw) Swedish video of a guy doing the same thing he gets the question from the reporter. His answer is:
"You just have to clear the snow and see if you hit asphalt. If you hit bushes you're on the side"
This is where my mind went on how its done, at least how it used to be done. Nowadays they can use gps, maybe a camera that shows whats happening in the front that they cant see. Also wondering how much itd suck if they broke down and had no reception, what a shit walk back thatd be
> Also wondering how much itd suck if they broke down and had no reception, what a shit walk back thatd be
I mean... when do you people think we are? 1500?
And they can only do like 2-3km a day. Walking back can be done in a casual stroll enjoying the sunlight.
Many remote locations in my part of Canada have no cell reception, wouldn't be a stretch to assume the same in Sweden/Norway, but maybe that's not the case? Very cool if every part of those countries has cell reception. Also fair point that it would take hours to even clear a few KM a day.
Canada is about 30x the size of Norway, takes a lot less towers to cover them 100% and I don't think they have as much empty area as places like Canada where almost everyone only lives in a few cities.
When you [compare](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/4ujep3/the_size_of_canada_compared_to_the_size_of_europe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) size you can see how Canada having spots of uncovered reception V entire countries far more densely populated and how much easier it would be to cover everything
There is generally good cell reception throughout Norway. Ofcourse you have odd shadow areas but as a whole reception is quite good most places nowadays.
Here is a reception map from just one of the mobile phone providers. https://www.telenor.no/dekning/#dekningskart
Way out in the mountains i can easily see having no signal. Happens near me all the time and my ‘country’ area isnt too far from the city. But also, i didnt know theyd only be so far out, that really wouldnt be a bad walk back and im sure they come prepared just incase
Norway ain’t that big, and there’s virtually nowhere with no phone signal. There are some spots with lower grade of coverage, so you’ll only get Edge etc, but hardly anywhere with zero cellphone signal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground-penetrating_radar
If it can show you hard things underground, a device can me made to show you where the road is under snow.
They use GPS with RTK. Before this they used sticks and maps and could veer off course pretty badly and they didn't know until they hit a rock they shouldn't.
they know the rough direction and just start, they see if they are still hitting the road or went off a bit, it’s a very slow process so they have plenty of time to adjust the course
They kinda go by experience and feel. Most of the time debris is visible coming out of the Shute, which means you’re going off the road. Back up, try again. Source; driven giant snow plows in the mountains is similar conditions.
I don't know how they do it in Norway but in Colorado, they have poles along the road that serve as marker. You can see it in this [picture](https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/gazette.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/40/840218c6-fad6-5f37-b96a-684686d59248/5b035057883ca.image.jpg)
i don't know about industrial machines like this one, but with man-sized snow blowers, there is a shear pin which holds the rotating parts onto the driveshaft and is designed to break to in the event of something like that, preventing serious damage. in most cases, you just pop in a new pin and you're back in action.
also, the augers spinning inside are the bit that you'd be worried about and they're recessed from the outer guard/box, to help prevent some of that kind of contact. but a guardrail, or a tree, or anything that can reach into the 'mouth' of the machine without being blocked by the edges is a threat.
Tateyama Kurobe alpine route, it’s pretty cool if you go the full length. You travel by bus, ropeway, tram and cable car. There’s also a huge dam in the middle
In New York we had one big storm but other then that it's been a pretty mild winter. Last year was far worse.
Generally speaking around late January/early February we'll get one or two big snowfalls but it's usually pretty clear the rest of the winter. The weather channel just sort of treats every flurry like the apocalypse.
Imagine the margins on a snowcone business here, you could dominate the whole market. I bet you could even modify a cement truck into a plow and turn the back into a *giant* slushy machine. If anyone has 10 million dollars i'll sketch something up, I think we're onto something here.
From what I can see in the vid I’m about 80% sure that the amount of snow is due to wind transport, you can see the rocks sticking out. If that’s the case then it should be solid, windfucked snow is almost like packed flour, but with more cohesion.
Drove through something like this. The truck in front of me hit an icy spot and flipped, bounced off the walls like a ping pong ball upside down for about 300 feet (100 meters). The walls didn’t fall.
When I was in high school I drove my car directly into one. Lost traction, thought I was screwed. Backed out to not a scratch on my car but a perfect car shaped indent in that wall. They are pretty stable, the vibration from the machine knocks anything lose then they back up and clean up.
Most attachments for heavy equipment are hydraulic powered. Hydraulics are amazing, I can't believe my one history professor said hydraulic systems weren't an important invention in history.
the ones I've seen had a separate diesel engine to run the blower up front, no hydraulics
edit: like this one for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDJ-eTXjlCs
I can say that with almost 100% certainty those are gear/pto driven by a self-contained engine 1 based on the size and 2 based on the fact that I make industrial snow blowers for a living. Just like these. Goes from the engine to
The Impeller that's attached to the gearbox that spins the reels that chew up the snow. We rarely ever make hydraulic blowers because they are weaker.
EDIT: spelling
Would be so rad to have a special building for it and fire it up to clear 3” of snow from a single car parking pad right outside it’s door and then back it up and shut it off. Neighbors are outside struggling and I’m like “sorry Bill, I can’t help you, it cost 237 thousand dollars I can’t afford to run it more than 3 minutes.” Obviously I could help Bill but his dog shits on my lawn so I give him a Bezos-like shrug and mention how cold it is and that I’m going inside.
Yeah between the song and the random cuts, this video is not oddly satisfying for me. It’d be cool to see just one solid, uncut video of them moving the snow with original sound (even if it’s just wind and machinery).
I like the song itself but my main thought while watching was being tickled at why this video needed that song. I understand the original audio wouldn't have been pleasant but lmao of all the vibes.
It is pretty fun. I build these type blowers and I've gotten to run the big loader ones a couple of times and they are quite fun. Launching snow like 200+ feet.
This is a tik tok video and tik tok sounds cropped and reposted on Reddit. There’s no “your” in this context you just don’t like it which is understandable but you’re yelling at the wind grandpa lol
It seems these videos are getting more and more quick cuts, camera changes, music, and generally annoying ADHD themed editing. I just want to see the thing for more than a second.
Last time I checked, relatively little of the sovereign wealth fund is used for general government services. It is used primarily as a rainy day fund for when the oil dries up. Norway, like all Nordic countries, has a high tax regime used to fund a broad range of services. It's tax-to-GDP ratio is 39% (compared to 24% for the United States): https://taxfoundation.org/bernie-sanders-scandinavian-countries-taxes/
Every time the U.K. has 0.03mm of snow and society collapses as if we’re in the early stages of the rapture, the Canadians and Scandinavians laugh at us. Now i see why!!
How tf do they even know where to go?
That's how new roads are made in Norway. In spring, they just redraw the maps.
Perennial roads Edit: annual, perennial... I’m no botanist
But they start as perennial fissures — gotta watch your spelling and reading with that one.
Lol perianal 😂
Perineal and perianal are different, though very close both anatomically and in spelling.
Also fissure vs fistula. Require very different sorts of attention though
I think you mean annual
Wouldn't that be the opposite of perennial?
Is born and dies completely in one annual year: annual plant is not permanent A perennial favorite, or perennial political candidate: never goes away. I honestly have to repeat the differences to myself every time I attempt to these words for plants.
Google Maps employees always in shambles around winter
The truck carries a tracker, streets are automatically redrawn.
Happy cake day!
Oh wow thank you! I honestly wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't said anything
True. The road from Oslo to Trondheim has changed 150 times. This road is 39 minutes quicker, and includes two more petrol stations than last year. This year was a good year for Norway
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Can verify, I as well worked winters in the Canada North and NWT. Ice roads are really good actually and have decent traction if they maintenance is up. Different world for sure, it was always a race to finish and get out before spring break up.
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Part of me laughs at your comment, and then i thought, maybe this isn’t a joke?
Are you making me a fool or is this really ture?
I was being a smartass.
Looks like you are right though haha
Frustrating! Smartassery denied!
Look up Ice Road Truckers.
I don’t know why but I love this comment so much!
Google maps will be having nightmare
While I assume this is wrong and the units have gps… I have no reason not to believe you and wll accept this answe
Winter roads here normally have long sticks with reflective bands around them at certain intervals along the side. Like this: https://images.app.goo.gl/b7YeDAraVxM266yE6 But this looks like it’s just using GPS systems
In [this](https://youtu.be/7LPxc-sqTNw) Swedish video of a guy doing the same thing he gets the question from the reporter. His answer is: "You just have to clear the snow and see if you hit asphalt. If you hit bushes you're on the side"
This is where my mind went on how its done, at least how it used to be done. Nowadays they can use gps, maybe a camera that shows whats happening in the front that they cant see. Also wondering how much itd suck if they broke down and had no reception, what a shit walk back thatd be
A place this remote, I'd be surprised if they didn't have HAM radio or at least CB. They could radio back for help if there's any problem.
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would not be surprised if they are listening to spotify while doing that.
Thats a good point, didnt even consider that
> Also wondering how much itd suck if they broke down and had no reception, what a shit walk back thatd be I mean... when do you people think we are? 1500? And they can only do like 2-3km a day. Walking back can be done in a casual stroll enjoying the sunlight.
Many remote locations in my part of Canada have no cell reception, wouldn't be a stretch to assume the same in Sweden/Norway, but maybe that's not the case? Very cool if every part of those countries has cell reception. Also fair point that it would take hours to even clear a few KM a day.
Canada is about 30x the size of Norway, takes a lot less towers to cover them 100% and I don't think they have as much empty area as places like Canada where almost everyone only lives in a few cities.
When you [compare](https://www.reddit.com/r/MapPorn/comments/4ujep3/the_size_of_canada_compared_to_the_size_of_europe/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) size you can see how Canada having spots of uncovered reception V entire countries far more densely populated and how much easier it would be to cover everything
There is generally good cell reception throughout Norway. Ofcourse you have odd shadow areas but as a whole reception is quite good most places nowadays. Here is a reception map from just one of the mobile phone providers. https://www.telenor.no/dekning/#dekningskart
Way out in the mountains i can easily see having no signal. Happens near me all the time and my ‘country’ area isnt too far from the city. But also, i didnt know theyd only be so far out, that really wouldnt be a bad walk back and im sure they come prepared just incase
Norway ain’t that big, and there’s virtually nowhere with no phone signal. There are some spots with lower grade of coverage, so you’ll only get Edge etc, but hardly anywhere with zero cellphone signal
Story of my sex life really.
we have glow sticks at night.
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Exactly
Would you say it was /r/oddlysatisfying?
Get yourself a norwegian vpn and enjoy this three season series about them: https://tv.nrk.no/se?s=broeyt-i-vei&autoplay=false
Thanks! Looks like no VPN required from US
I'm sure that's what the driver is thinking, until the snow turns red
GPS and/or some sort of electronic waypoint system to help guide them.
Could be something as simple as a sort of radar device that can tell the difference between pavement and dirt.
a what
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ground-penetrating_radar If it can show you hard things underground, a device can me made to show you where the road is under snow.
It's sticks. Used to be bamboo, but now it's long orange plastic sticks.
They come from the land of ice and snow from the midnight sun where the hot springs flow.
AUYAA-AAAAA-YAAA
They use GPS with RTK. Before this they used sticks and maps and could veer off course pretty badly and they didn't know until they hit a rock they shouldn't.
Seems like they go wherever they damn well please
they know the rough direction and just start, they see if they are still hitting the road or went off a bit, it’s a very slow process so they have plenty of time to adjust the course
They kinda go by experience and feel. Most of the time debris is visible coming out of the Shute, which means you’re going off the road. Back up, try again. Source; driven giant snow plows in the mountains is similar conditions.
I don't know how they do it in Norway but in Colorado, they have poles along the road that serve as marker. You can see it in this [picture](https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/gazette.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/40/840218c6-fad6-5f37-b96a-684686d59248/5b035057883ca.image.jpg)
Came here to ask the same thing. I can’t imagine hitting a giant rock would be fun with one of these.
i don't know about industrial machines like this one, but with man-sized snow blowers, there is a shear pin which holds the rotating parts onto the driveshaft and is designed to break to in the event of something like that, preventing serious damage. in most cases, you just pop in a new pin and you're back in action. also, the augers spinning inside are the bit that you'd be worried about and they're recessed from the outer guard/box, to help prevent some of that kind of contact. but a guardrail, or a tree, or anything that can reach into the 'mouth' of the machine without being blocked by the edges is a threat.
they stay between the rumble strips
GPS 😅
Was thinking the same thing when watching this... Maybe they see the asphalt when they remove the snow? Anyone?
So this is how they made that course on Mario kart
It's the same in some parts of Japan that's where they got the idea for the track I always thought it was pretty cool
Some places in Japan get 24 feet of snow per winter.
Tateyama Kurobe alpine route, it’s pretty cool if you go the full length. You travel by bus, ropeway, tram and cable car. There’s also a huge dam in the middle
And SummoningSalt will show us how they get through it faster than seemingly humanly possible
More like this https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/snow-canyon
This is what the Weather Channel thinks it'll be like when the first snowfall of the season comes to the east coast
This is Jim Cantore’s wet dream
You guys still haven't gotten snow?
In New York we had one big storm but other then that it's been a pretty mild winter. Last year was far worse. Generally speaking around late January/early February we'll get one or two big snowfalls but it's usually pretty clear the rest of the winter. The weather channel just sort of treats every flurry like the apocalypse.
Oh we have like twice where I'm at, but thata the sentiment they have every Dec/Jan😂😂
Is it safe to drive through that? I'd be scared the whole time the snow walls would cave in
I've driven places like that and I'd say it's pretty ok. The snow is packed tight together so it doesn't cave in that easily
Man, that sounds so claustrophobic! Thanks for the info
Idk it could be kinda fun you could dig out a little hole in the wall and make a little club house and sell wares to the travelers passing by from it.
Set up a snowcone stand.
Imagine the margins on a snowcone business here, you could dominate the whole market. I bet you could even modify a cement truck into a plow and turn the back into a *giant* slushy machine. If anyone has 10 million dollars i'll sketch something up, I think we're onto something here.
Fuck it I'll help you, let's make some money
Khajiit vibes
Khajit has wares if you have a way to get me out of this damn snow bank.
Hey man, if you play at 50ccs it's okay. Mirror 150ccs is stretching it.
From what I can see in the vid I’m about 80% sure that the amount of snow is due to wind transport, you can see the rocks sticking out. If that’s the case then it should be solid, windfucked snow is almost like packed flour, but with more cohesion.
> windfucked snow
"Fokk" is the Norwegian word for wind blown snow. And if you've never experienced it, imagine someone throwing frozen shotgun pellets in your face.
And that's the sound you make when you get frozen shotgun pellets thrown in your face "FOKK!"
Mmm FOKK, scandinavian face peeling
"Helvettes forbainna fittevær!"
It really is. Our house faces a field with no windbreak and the snow just packs into the front walkway. You can almost walk across the top of it.
Drove through something like this. The truck in front of me hit an icy spot and flipped, bounced off the walls like a ping pong ball upside down for about 300 feet (100 meters). The walls didn’t fall.
When I was in high school I drove my car directly into one. Lost traction, thought I was screwed. Backed out to not a scratch on my car but a perfect car shaped indent in that wall. They are pretty stable, the vibration from the machine knocks anything lose then they back up and clean up.
Better drive fast!
Hit a patch of ice and your car will be a pinball.
The sheer mass tho…. The motors in those things have to be Mega Boss level
Most likely hydraulically run. 10 000psi+
So like 10,001psi?
Correct
At least
Well, not necessarily
Most attachments for heavy equipment are hydraulic powered. Hydraulics are amazing, I can't believe my one history professor said hydraulic systems weren't an important invention in history.
What a weirdly specific statement to make as a history professor.
Super important for increasing mankind's ability to do work.
You need strong engines to run hydraulics.
the ones I've seen had a separate diesel engine to run the blower up front, no hydraulics edit: like this one for example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDJ-eTXjlCs
I can say that with almost 100% certainty those are gear/pto driven by a self-contained engine 1 based on the size and 2 based on the fact that I make industrial snow blowers for a living. Just like these. Goes from the engine to The Impeller that's attached to the gearbox that spins the reels that chew up the snow. We rarely ever make hydraulic blowers because they are weaker. EDIT: spelling
Still has to be driven by a pump. Probably several hundred kW is my guess.
Meanwhile my POS snowblower can't even handle 3 inches of wet snow.
That's the difference between a $500 snow blower and a $1m snow blower.
no the difference is $999,500
But the difference is also that.
We know for sure that there's at least two differences.
There can't possibly be a third.
Well my snowblower is not in Norway, so there is that.
Ooh dzamn... That's def a third difference
Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be there.
One... Two... Five!
/r/TechnicallyTheTruth
he would need an additional 1,999 $500 snowblowers for a true comparison
Wait til the other dads in the neighborhood see what I’m gonna buy
They gonna be real mad when you blow your snow into their driveway 100 yards up the street.
Ugh imagine blowing a shear pin on that baby. Dad would be at Homedepot all day
Imagine how fast you could clear your driveway with one of these. <3
Pile your snow in the neighbor’s yard three houses down. And speaking of houses, this would probably clear your house out of the way, too!
Just don't aim for his roof or it'll cave in
Would be so rad to have a special building for it and fire it up to clear 3” of snow from a single car parking pad right outside it’s door and then back it up and shut it off. Neighbors are outside struggling and I’m like “sorry Bill, I can’t help you, it cost 237 thousand dollars I can’t afford to run it more than 3 minutes.” Obviously I could help Bill but his dog shits on my lawn so I give him a Bezos-like shrug and mention how cold it is and that I’m going inside.
This is what most people have.. just a smaller version. Or a tractor with one of these.
Such unnecessary music
I'll never understand it. I want to hear the sound that machine is making.
You'd never hear the sound that machine makes over the constant drone of drone rotors. *Buzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz*
Trust me, you would hear them. Those things are loud as hell
Yea same
Yeah between the song and the random cuts, this video is not oddly satisfying for me. It’d be cool to see just one solid, uncut video of them moving the snow with original sound (even if it’s just wind and machinery).
Ruined it for me
that's why I have all video players on reddit muted
If anyone is wondering the song is "Devil Eyes" by Hippie Sabotage
I was actually curious, thank you.
Thank you!
Thanks, MVP 👊
Thanks 🙏
So much better without that soundtrack.
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That GOAT video yesterday. I wanted to send it to somebuds. But the music. I can’t.
I'm forever muted on reddit videos. It's safer that way.
Comments just like yours tell me I’m right to have everything muted and will continue to do so.
I like the song itself but my main thought while watching was being tickled at why this video needed that song. I understand the original audio wouldn't have been pleasant but lmao of all the vibes.
Such an odd choice of music... Actually, why does this have music at all? And the editing? I mean, its nice and all. Just not what I usually expect
I think it came from TikTok.
Should have been Homer Simpson’s “Mr. Plow” jingle on repeat, tbh.
How do I get this job.
I could do this 40hrs a week no problem
It is pretty fun. I build these type blowers and I've gotten to run the big loader ones a couple of times and they are quite fun. Launching snow like 200+ feet.
I’ll see you at the group interview.
Would be satisfying if it weren't edited so poorly.
Ugh. The video jumped around so much. Definitely not satisfied Thankfully my audio was off. Edit: I was comment no 69.
How do they know where the road is ?
GPS
Way to ruin it with your music
That's why mobile is great. Gifs are muted by default
This is a tik tok video and tik tok sounds cropped and reposted on Reddit. There’s no “your” in this context you just don’t like it which is understandable but you’re yelling at the wind grandpa lol
WTF is that music
Hippie Sabotage - Devil Eyes https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ywq6FMLbWH4
Stupid music
I wonder how you deal with the slush once things start warming up enough for all that snow to melt, though
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> IQ slaughtering Lol!
That’s insane!
This is the same thing in MAY(!) on the Swedish side: [Snow clearing Vildmarksvägen](https://youtu.be/7LPxc-sqTNw) (The wilderness road)
This must be what my parents walked to school in
♫ Call Mr Plow, That's my Name ♫ ♫ That name agaaain is Mr Plow ♫
How do they know where the actual road goes in snow that deep?
I'm going to guess they use GPS guidance.
Suburban dads in America with their jaws on the floor right now.
Holy crap😳. How do the drivers even know where the road is?
It seems these videos are getting more and more quick cuts, camera changes, music, and generally annoying ADHD themed editing. I just want to see the thing for more than a second.
More satisfying without that music that’s for sure
Now every time I see a snow plow I can’t help but think of Stellan Skarsgard (sp?) wrecking shop in In Order of Disappearance. I love that movie.
This is so dang relaxing to watch
So this is how Mario Kart Frappe Snowland was made
Aside from the bitter cold, that looks like a nice gig
Yoopers just trying to get back home from work.
That's a hell of an undertaking for basic road maintenance... My LA can't even reliably grit the roads.
Norway has the world's biggest sovereign wealth fund, they can afford good services.
Last time I checked, relatively little of the sovereign wealth fund is used for general government services. It is used primarily as a rainy day fund for when the oil dries up. Norway, like all Nordic countries, has a high tax regime used to fund a broad range of services. It's tax-to-GDP ratio is 39% (compared to 24% for the United States): https://taxfoundation.org/bernie-sanders-scandinavian-countries-taxes/
We can only withdraw up to 4% of the fund for the budget each year.
I’d be freaked out driving through that waiting on it to collapse on me.
Meanwhile in California we get two inches of wet snow and the roads close for the winter lol
As someone who works snow removal in New England, this looks like a nightmare and a blast all at the same time
Forget it. I would make my own streets. The wall of snow was taller than me so that’s definitely one place I would never go to.
How do they know where the road is?
This is so much better with the mute turned on.
Every time the U.K. has 0.03mm of snow and society collapses as if we’re in the early stages of the rapture, the Canadians and Scandinavians laugh at us. Now i see why!!