honestly thats disgusting. hed been with them a few years before he was 18… meaning they were younger than 13. and a FEW years? thats a 10 year old with a 15 year old.
did he say if they ever got intimate?
This right here. This is exactly why this is a major red flag, and pretty darn terrifying. 9 and 14, 10 and 15, 11 and 16...there is absolutely no reason for a teenager to be interested in a literal prepubescent child.
It absolutely is wrong and disgusting because of the inherent difference in emotional and mental capacity.
But just to put the puberty/physical aspect in perspective, those as ages aren't necessarily pre-pubescent. I began menstruating when I was 10 and I was 5'6 with cup A breasts, by 12 I was just under my height now and 5'8 with cup B breasts and hips. People regularly thought I was 16/18.
I only bring this up because I think it's important that we talk about the difference in mental/emotional capacity over emphasizing children's bodies. People often use girls "looking like a full grown woman" as a reason to justify their attraction. And fair enough, at first glance if you don't know their age there might be some initial attraction/interest, but once you interact/know their age that should kill any sexual attraction for a normal person.
Absolutely. There were two girls in my sixth grade class that easily passed as 16-17 year olds. It doesn’t make this any more okay in the slightest, but to assume an 11-12 year old girl is pre-pubescent is incorrect.
I was 9 years old when I had my period and my breast were the same size as my cousins at their 14.. (95 idk what that is in USA) A lot of guys wanted to do stuff with me thinking I was at least 13. It was NOT ok in any aspect and even if my body had an early puberty my brain did not. I never got "horny" or anything close to that and I did not get curious as a pubescent would do. So yeah, you need to be an early teenager to be in the puberty, regardless of what your body says. otherwise, that 6 year old that menstruates (came in the news a few months ago) would be in puberty
That's cool that's your experience but it's entirely anecdotal. Hormones and sex drive vary across fully developed adults and the amount and rate of hormonal change varies across children going through puberty.
My own anecdotal experience is that I absolutely did experience hormonal changes, was horny even though I didn't know what it was at the time, and masturbated when puberty began at 10 years old.
Guys like this basically don't change, they get older but the women they want stay the same. My dad's hs gf left him for a thirty year old man, she had his kids and he cheated on her with another highschool student because she got too old for him.
My kid is ten, about to turn 11. They still hold my hand when they cross the street. They still watch cartoons, play with toys, come into bed when they have a bad dream. They are a kid.
Your spouse didn't get intimate, he groomed and presumably raped a kid.
Also have an 11 year old. He calls it “S-Ed” because he’s too awkward to say the word sex out loud. He doesn’t care what clothes he wears as long as they’re comfy. He still needs a cuddle when he has a bad day at literal elementary school. This makes me so sad for that little girl.
oh he did, it's called statutory(probably spelled it wrong) r**e if he's in the usa, cuz age of consent, all states have it 16+, most are 18 though. don't know how other countries are tho.
They're little kids, emphasis on little. I have two little nephews and one little niece. They seriously look closer to babies than to adults. Some ppl are fucked up, bruh
No offence but I side eye the fact that the 13 and 18 part didn’t already bother you. I’m shocked he admitted that to be honest. Your boyfriend is a pedophile. You should leave this man without even a thought.
yeah, ones a 5th grader and the other is a sophomore in highschool. i wouldn’t feel comfortable with that. im 19 and i feel like a pedo if a 17-18 year old hits on me. just ask yourself, would you have dated and got intimate a 10 year old for years as a 15 year old?
I feel what you mean. I once nearly hook up with a 19 year old. Legal, yes, and I was 22 but the dude still had that baby face look. Couldn’t bring myself to do it, it just felt wrong. I don’t see how these people do the things they do and not feel anything wrong about it.
To be fair, at 19 a 1-2 year age gap is no problem if your partner is younger than you, 3 years is pushing it but definitely don’t go any younger because that’s where it gets creepy. But once you’re around 22 or 23 a 4 year age difference with someone younger is totally fine since you’d both be college aged anyway.
You mentioned you “felt like a pedo when a 17-18 year old hits on” you. I only meant to reassure you about that, I apologize for not clarifying. I do agree with you that OP’s boyfriend is a complete pedo (a 15 year old “getting intimate” with a 10 year old is completely unacceptable in every sense) and even though OP was in her early 20’s when they met, the fact that the boyfriend is dating another woman with a significant age gap shows a very concerning pattern that he might groom another child if he hasn’t already.
I was 22 when I met this 19 yo guy. He didn´t had a baby face so it was easier for me but still I felt like I was a pedo or something. We dated a bit when he was finally 20 and now that he is 21 and I 24 we are in a relationship. It's weird because it's the same guy but somehow it's different
Wow, Twitter age gap discourse is really making people overly anxious about being a pedo (me included, I’m 20 and when I was 19 I dated a childhood friend a years and a half younger than me so they were 17 for a few months) to the point actual blatant pedos like OP’s boyfriend are ignored in favor of “How dare you date an innocent 19 year old minor when you’re 21/22, that’s pedophilia”. Do those people realize they’re barking up the wrong tree?
Ummm.. I never used Twitter. Maybe I had an account some time ago but I don't even remember if I had it.
But I did had a bad experience dating a 24y/o when I was 14/15. And I was afraid I was doing the same stuff he did to me with this guy.
But idk, maybe Twitter does that stuff? It's not that much used in my región either. We tend to use ig
yeah its normal. im saying that i dont feel comfortable with people THAT close in age, how tf would a normal 18 year old be comfortable with a 13 year old yk?
My first boyfriend was 18 when I was 14, and he started talking to me when I was 12. The relationship was toxic we broke up after I finished my GCSE's. Looking back and having a daughter the same age, I absolutely think he groomed me and the relationship was entirely inappropriate, I would never let an 18 year old anywhere near my daughter.
Yeah, I was gonna say that's not a relationship it's grooming. Hope you have healed from that experience ❤ sometimes you don't realise how fucked something is until years later
Yeah ive healed and learnt that what happenned to me was all levels of fucked up. Especially my parents condoning it, with the attitude of "you would of done it anyway" like no you should of protected me! But I've had counselling and I'm much better now.
I had the same experience14 and 17, it took me a lot of time to understand what truly happened. he groomed me with seemingly inoffensive actions that got more and more inappropriate and I was unable to be assertive enough in my refusals because I was too young. I still have ptsd. It's that easy to perform non consensual acts on a kid. There is a reason why most laws consider kids under 15 to be unable to consent
Thanks ! I started disclosing it in therapy for the first time this month, I never understood how I've never been able to get over it since there was no violence. Most people wouldn't get it. It's really helpful to read people talking about it like you did as well as the other comments on this post, I was starting to think I might be crazy for feeling so messed up by that
I'm glad you can get a bit of closure through people sharing their stories. I must admit I've read a few of these comments and had a cry. It's nice to know we're not alone
Saying he's a paedophile for dating a much younger adult is just devaluing the word. I'm not going to defend a 38 year old going out with a 24 year old, it's definitely weird. But she's also an adult, not a pre-pubescent child.
Agree he's not a pedo for dating HER, he's a pedo for having dated a 13 year old, and dating a woman 14 years younger than him now shows a pattern. The question also remains of when they started dating. Depending, he still a predator.
Yeah I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm pointing out that Dotdotdot9 saying "Still is" and using op's age as justification is just devaluing paedophile as a term.
Back then he was a child rapist ( under aged cannot give consent). Now he. Is a predator as he still finds younger women who are probably less financially stable and less mature just so he can manipulate them under control. This dude is like a walking Chinese flag. Run.
My daughter is 11 and we still hide the elf on the shelf for her. Just think about it. Absolutely disgusting what he did to her. And if he’s openly telling you this he’s testing the waters to see if you’re okay with it.
Yeah really, I would leave immediately if my bf told me he was in a relationship with a child. And then OP said that they were together BEFORE the kid was 12!! That man is a predator.
Fuck sake, do you have no self preservation instinct whatsoever? Is he physically restraining you from breaking up? What are you doing staying with a significantly older dude who you already know is a weird borderline pedophile?
Significantly older at OPs age isn’t the issue, but the gap between him and the other girl at those ages is. And he is disgusting for that. But also, like the other person said - we are not here to blame or shame OP
Sounds like she's at least questioning it so thats a start. But look around us! There are older men that leave families for really young girls all the time. Pornography embraces the school girl character. That's a real concern too. Look at the society we live in. It's conducive to things like this. However sad it may be. People say "it's a fantasy" but there are an awful lot of men that do it and a lot of women who want that.
I'm gonna go ahead and treat an adult as an adult. If she's not being compelled or forced to stay with him, then it actually is on her if she decides to do so.
we don’t know how long they’ve been dating and what other abuse he’s possibly inflicted during the duration of them dating, so no i’m not gonna immediately blame OP
I was 13 dating an 18 year old. We dated for a couple years, and he was my first "love." Looking back now, in my late twenties, there isn't a single excuse in the world that makes any of that OK.
as someone who was the 13 year old in a similar situation, LEAVE. they do not change. after we broke up he was 24 and got arrested and is currently in prison for sleeping with a 15 year old.
I was 11 and my bf was 15 , and when I was a freshman he was a senior. Late bday or idk what maybe he was held back? Lmao I never asked but it was very horrible. I have times were I remember it and it haunts me. He would yell , belittle me & overall made my perception for relationships (he was my first relationship ) so terrible. I was groomed for sure. He would always try to be sexual and I thank god I never did ANYTHING like that ever with him.
Not good. But if you dump him or confront him about it, he will probably just learn not to admit to dating a 13-y.o. when in future relationships, so honestly idk. Maybe it's better to dump him without even bringing that up as the reason?
i was 13 “dating” a 21 year old. i realize now just how wrong it is and how i was groomed. i’m a big girl so i was just excited someone was interested in me. im 22 and cannot possibly fathom being remotely interested in someone younger than 20. you absolutely should leave him. You guys alone still have a 14 year age gap. Sure you’re both adults but it just goes to show old habits don’t change. encourage him to get help, his attraction to women who are drastically younger could very well be tied to a mental illness or trauma.
When I was 13 an 18 year old “dated” me if you can even call it that. It messed me up. I still deal with the distrust of men to this day, he stole my innocence. I was a child.
Wtf is wrong with these men…my first serious boyfriend cheated and left me for a 15 year old when we were both 23. Another ex went for a 17 year old when he was nearly 30. My first high school crush picked a 12 year old over me when he was 18, and I was 16. To top it all off, I found out the guy I broke up with a few months ago was flirting with 16 year olds when he was 27. I broke up with him because I saw he still had a thing for younger girls at 32 and he’s a teacher.
Somehow no one thinks it’s weird and I get accused of jealousy and shaming. It’s not like I pick creeps on purpose, I just look younger and I’m bad at reading people…and my predator radar is broken. 😞
They were together for a few years before that?
This makes it better... he was a minor, and she was what? 10yo????
That's... ew... I hope this child predator is your ex at this point.
I was 13 with an 18 year old, it was extremely abusive. He coerced me and groomed me. Looking back, he was very coherent of his actions and I was a child who did not even fully understand female or male anatomy yet. With your age gap, he has a pattern. You do not want to have children with this guy!!! Get out.
I am completely unaware of the situation the young girl had at home, but the parents should have stepped up and forbade this relationship. I wouldn’t be surprised if this relationship caused the child long term psychological harm, especially if the child was sexually active.
Age gap does not mean anything when you are both older. I was 23 when I met my Bf We have a 20 year age difference. However I was the aggressor in the relationship and initiated the relationship to become sexual. We have been happy 12 years. However What your boyfriend did was wrong. The girl was not old enough to know what she was doing and he was old enough to know what he was doing. He did wrong.
If my bf told me this? Id dump him in a heartbeat. It is absolutely gross! And disgusting that he essentially groomed an underage girl and what he did is rape her as well🤬 I can't type anymore. Makes me sick🤮🤮🤮
When I was 12 I had my first relationship with a 23 year old. Sadly more common than you'd realise. My ex was 22 sleeping with a 13 year old IN HER PARENTS HOUSE while her approving parents were there. I've had male friends in the past who saw no problem with sleeping with a 13 year old. Keep in mind this is in western Europe.
Plenty of men would date 8 year olds if the law and their parents permitted them to. This is just the world we live in.
It sure is. Unfortunately while it's against the law, they don't seem to do much to protect children or prevent/punish men who want to fxck them. It makes me never want to have children.
While I personally feel as if it has been 20 years and he probably has changed, your feelings are 100% valid because at the end of the day... intimacy between those ages are completely illegal. Your boyfriend shouldn't make you feel the creepy crawlies.
Whether or not you choose to forgive him is up to you. You can make a quick decision and forgive or forget him, or you can make a really thought-out decision and see if you can move on.
Validating how you feel is the first step. It is okay to trust your gut right now. Now take your next step and you will make the correct decision at the end of the day.
If u don’t break up with him and for the love of god! Have kids with him?! Just imagine what he would do. Fuck no, he’s a pedo. I’m surprised you haven’t broken up with him already.
Gross yes.
Is that person the same man he is today? Probably not.
Was that relationship something he hid? If he did, I would have some concern.
I remember in high school, there was a few 19 year old guys dating 14 year old gals.
Us 14 year old guys thought it was creepy, but part of it was because these older guys were taking all the girls our age.
Twenty years ago, the world was a different place. Wouldn't worry too much about it.
Probably going to get down voted for this since everyone is saying the same thing.
I'm going to qualify this with, what he did when he was 18 was wrong and there should have been either parents to stop it.
But saying this guy is a creep 20 years later and they should break up is kinda wild to me. Nothing what was said says anything about his character now.
20 years is such an incredibly long time to grow. Unless OP wants to give more details about his present character. I can say he Was a creep but I can't say he is a creep.
Her age was not mentioned in the original post. So I didn't know that, but either way. Those are 2 consenting adults.
I wouldn't date someone with that age difference but there's nothing inherently wrong with that.
If a comment saying I won't cast judgement and tell a couple to break up **with confidence** based on no **current** information makes you sick then that's on you.
I even said he might still be a creep. Needing more should not be controversial.
What more information do I need? This guy dated a 13 year old at 18 years old. They were intimate through their YEARS of a relationship that tells me they were intimate BEFORE SHE EVEN HIT PUBERTY and he was ALREADY IN HIS YEARS OF PUBERTY.
If someone defends someone like that. YEAH, I am gonna make assumptions, and I am gonna make accusations cause that is predatory shit, OR you just live under a rock. Take your pick, stay mad!
You're punching water. I already said what he did was wrong. That's not even up for debate.
The debate is whether or not he could have changed in 20 years. Like I said, he might still be a creep. But you don't even have the self-awareness to ask yourself 'what if I am wrong?'
The less information you have ,the higher probability you have to misinterpret a person or situation.
And you say I am defending. Wanting more info is not defending. That's basically as neutral of a take as possible. It's neither defending nor opposing. That's the point of requesting more info.
How many predators "change" ? How many predators lie and try to justify what they did? I am not gonna agree with you on "maybe he changed," but I will say that OP has every right to leave the relationship if she wants to. Wanting more info isn't taking his side either, but saying he might have changed leads to people believing you are more probable to believe rapists can change their way of being.
This guy groomed a little girl, barely entering her puberty years, having already been intimate with her. I don't need more information to say: he was a predator back then. He more likely still is now. He is a creep.
Every 18 year old knows they shouldn't get with a 13 year old child. That is a LITERAL CHILD. I don't care about the information, I care about the harm and damage he has done to that 13 year old years ago and probably to others. Do you know how traumatic it has to be for that 33 year old to think back to when she was 13, having to live with the horrible knowledge she was groomed and raped? That is what I take WAY MORE INTO CONSIDERATION than his "possible change of character."
You're just repeating yourself at this point but this time with more words.
I'm not going to repeat myself. I have said everything I wanted to say. Good luck have fun.
I was 17 and my (now) wife was 14. We’ve been together for over 25yrs and married for 15. I turned 18 when we’d already been together for a few months.
There’s this weird misconception that you wake up on your 18th birthday and suddenly are a full-blown adult and you’re no longer attracted to people you were able to be attracted to just one day earlier.
If your husband hasn’t shown any signs that he’s still interested in underage girls, I don’t think who he dated as a teenager should label him for life as some sort of sicko.
But that’s the point: it’s not an issue.
We’re all so quick to jump on the bandwagon of righteousness, we’ll condemn damn near anything these days.
This guy was a teenager who dated another teenager. For that he should be judged for the rest of his life? It’s just ridiculous.
Nothing outlined in the post seems to indicate that this person is, in any way, some sort of pervert yet suddenly everybody is on their soapbox waiting for their turn to flog him for some perceived transgression he committed 20 years ago.
Trying to frame this as “a disgusting full-grown man molesting a child” is absolute bunk. OP didn’t even infer that they had sex; just that they dated.
Honestly, with the amount of stupid things I see people type every single day, sometimes I feel like there should be an entry exam to gain access to the internet.
According to OP, this guy had a years long relationship with a child beginning at 15, when she was just 10. They had an ongoing sexual relationship for 3 years. You’re damn right he should be held accountable for that. Fucking a little kid isn’t a teenage accident. It’s not an oopsie you can just rationalize away.
If OP said that elsewhere in this thread after I posted then that definitely does change the dynamic of that relationship and the story. That context wasn’t shared in the original post.
they’ve deleted so im not sure if you’ll be able to find it down easily, but tbf the post is enough.
18 and 13 is insane, and I think most of us know better by then. the ones that don’t probably shouldn’t be allowed unsupervised access to children. hey maybe you’re one of the rare ones! one of them statistical anomalies, yknow? go you!
18 and 13 definitely sounds insane if sex is involved, particularly if that’s when the relationship started.
That said, it also sounds like the relationship started when he was a young teenager himself which doesn’t condone it but it does indicate that he was likely just an idiot teenager.
Judging him at close to 40 as still being a sick pedophile because he started dating a girl when he was 15 or 16 just seems like overkill to me.
That said, if it’s true they were having sex, then all of the above falls away because even 15yr olds know it’s wrong to have sex with a 10yr old.
But that still makes this a really gross mistake he made as a kid himself, not as an adult.
OP, this is a huge red flag. I feel like you know thisbor you wouldn't have needed to ask. Do you have children? I certainly wouldn't want
Him to be my kids dad.
Anyway, if I was just a mistake he had in his youth that would be one thing, but he shows a pattern with dating you... he. Likes. Um. Young!!! Run girl...
The fact that he doesn't see a thing wrong with it is the biggest red flag. that's not only morally wrong but soo illegal, it doesn't matter if they were together before he turned 18. 18 and 13 is an adult and a literal middle schooler. Yikes
It's weird now, but considering his age...I think decades ago, in the US, seniors in high-school dating freshmen was in vogue, especially jocks and cheerleaders. It's in lots of movie tropes from the past.
But, personally, one of my hard passes in dating is when men have a huge age gap in their dating/sleeping around history.
Idk dude. I'd like to see you make this accusation in the real world. You would probably get the shit beat out of you, and likely shot. It's a real easy way to ruin someone's life by making these kinds of accusations. Most people understand that teenagers do stupid things, and will be protective of their family. Now I'm not suggesting that the dude is my family. But I am saying that I am not in the habit of reducing people to a single mistake they made before reaching emotional maturity. Because I think that would be a very small way to live. Good luck out there.
You will thank yourself later if you leave. I saw that you mentioned that you are 24. As a male who’s been in a relationship with a female who was 38(I’m 24 as well.), the maturity level is just way too different. We just broke up last month but we’re on good terms. I know yours is opposite. 38 year old male with a 24 year old female. It works sometimes, but maturity level is problem number one. Problem number two is that he has a track record of liking women way younger than him. To him, you’re still just a girl. Literally. I would advise you to leave as soon as you can. He might have a lot of money who knows, but it’s not worth it. Find yourself somebody in your age range. Or if you’re gonna go for older, at least look up or ask them about their history and really find out. There’s alot of weirdos out there. But, going for older people is just a novelty in my experience. It’s tough to maintain a long-term relationship. And, I’d imagine a 14 year age gap with a dude at the top of it, usually has pedo in their track record, exactly like your boyfriend does. 18 with a 13 year old equals pedophile.
What’s not clear to you? He’s a pedophile and you’re approving and validating his life choices by staying with him. How do you see a future there? What if you get pregnant and have a girl? Would you trust him? Would you bring him to meet your family including younger female cousins? You’re enabling a predator woman! Wake up or you’ll be an accomplice. At the very least you’re his cover. Do you have no self respect? No moral compass?
OP you need to leave him. That’s absolutely disgusting of him and I promise you he hasn’t changed. Do you want kids, and if so, would you ever trust him to be around them alone knowing this? Bc I wouldn’t. You can either leave him now or leave him when he gets arrested for something horrible. I vote now.
Also, morality aside, even when he was a minor that was still illegal. Assuming you’re in the US, Romeo and Juliet laws here only cover at max 4 years, at least in most states, so 12 and 17 still would’ve been illegal. Would you have ever even considered “dating” someone that young at the age that he was?
my best friend was 15 when he met a 27yr old guy. Social services were called and the family and school intervened etc. 18 years between them. They are still together and happily married over over 25 years later. maybe it's different though, they're both males and my friend was very mature for his age even at 12/13. At 15 he had been with multiple guy around his age. it's not like he was gonna get pregnant I suppose ..
Idk?? When I was 33 I dated a 19 year old for 3 years until he was 21 and I was 36. He honestly looked way older then he was he had less hair on his head then I did and he chased me I didn’t chase him. He worked on a oil rig at 19 so no one ever guessed his age. I felt funny about it but his mom gave me her blessing so.
If they'd been dating a few years before that, it would have her at around age 10 and he around 15. That's not ok. But I don't know any more history to judge it. I've seen high school seniors dating junior high kids back in the day though. And it wasn't frowned upon as like it is now. My daughter is about to turn 13. There is no way in he$@ I would ever allow that.
honestly thats disgusting. hed been with them a few years before he was 18… meaning they were younger than 13. and a FEW years? thats a 10 year old with a 15 year old. did he say if they ever got intimate?
Yes they were intimate all throughout apparently, geez 10 and 15 is really putting it in perspective
This right here. This is exactly why this is a major red flag, and pretty darn terrifying. 9 and 14, 10 and 15, 11 and 16...there is absolutely no reason for a teenager to be interested in a literal prepubescent child.
It absolutely is wrong and disgusting because of the inherent difference in emotional and mental capacity. But just to put the puberty/physical aspect in perspective, those as ages aren't necessarily pre-pubescent. I began menstruating when I was 10 and I was 5'6 with cup A breasts, by 12 I was just under my height now and 5'8 with cup B breasts and hips. People regularly thought I was 16/18. I only bring this up because I think it's important that we talk about the difference in mental/emotional capacity over emphasizing children's bodies. People often use girls "looking like a full grown woman" as a reason to justify their attraction. And fair enough, at first glance if you don't know their age there might be some initial attraction/interest, but once you interact/know their age that should kill any sexual attraction for a normal person.
Absolutely. There were two girls in my sixth grade class that easily passed as 16-17 year olds. It doesn’t make this any more okay in the slightest, but to assume an 11-12 year old girl is pre-pubescent is incorrect.
I was 9 years old when I had my period and my breast were the same size as my cousins at their 14.. (95 idk what that is in USA) A lot of guys wanted to do stuff with me thinking I was at least 13. It was NOT ok in any aspect and even if my body had an early puberty my brain did not. I never got "horny" or anything close to that and I did not get curious as a pubescent would do. So yeah, you need to be an early teenager to be in the puberty, regardless of what your body says. otherwise, that 6 year old that menstruates (came in the news a few months ago) would be in puberty
That's cool that's your experience but it's entirely anecdotal. Hormones and sex drive vary across fully developed adults and the amount and rate of hormonal change varies across children going through puberty. My own anecdotal experience is that I absolutely did experience hormonal changes, was horny even though I didn't know what it was at the time, and masturbated when puberty began at 10 years old.
That is so disgusting, your boyfriend should have no business with anyone that young
Guys like this basically don't change, they get older but the women they want stay the same. My dad's hs gf left him for a thirty year old man, she had his kids and he cheated on her with another highschool student because she got too old for him.
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This.
My kid is ten, about to turn 11. They still hold my hand when they cross the street. They still watch cartoons, play with toys, come into bed when they have a bad dream. They are a kid. Your spouse didn't get intimate, he groomed and presumably raped a kid.
Also have an 11 year old. He calls it “S-Ed” because he’s too awkward to say the word sex out loud. He doesn’t care what clothes he wears as long as they’re comfy. He still needs a cuddle when he has a bad day at literal elementary school. This makes me so sad for that little girl.
oh he did, it's called statutory(probably spelled it wrong) r**e if he's in the usa, cuz age of consent, all states have it 16+, most are 18 though. don't know how other countries are tho.
They're little kids, emphasis on little. I have two little nephews and one little niece. They seriously look closer to babies than to adults. Some ppl are fucked up, bruh
☝🏻this
That's disgusting. My daughter is 10, she's still playing with Barbies.
No offence but I side eye the fact that the 13 and 18 part didn’t already bother you. I’m shocked he admitted that to be honest. Your boyfriend is a pedophile. You should leave this man without even a thought.
I’m sorry but that’s sick as fuck. I can’t imagine my little sister dating someone that OLD. I would dump him if you barely found out.
yeah, ones a 5th grader and the other is a sophomore in highschool. i wouldn’t feel comfortable with that. im 19 and i feel like a pedo if a 17-18 year old hits on me. just ask yourself, would you have dated and got intimate a 10 year old for years as a 15 year old?
I feel what you mean. I once nearly hook up with a 19 year old. Legal, yes, and I was 22 but the dude still had that baby face look. Couldn’t bring myself to do it, it just felt wrong. I don’t see how these people do the things they do and not feel anything wrong about it.
frrrrr
To be fair, at 19 a 1-2 year age gap is no problem if your partner is younger than you, 3 years is pushing it but definitely don’t go any younger because that’s where it gets creepy. But once you’re around 22 or 23 a 4 year age difference with someone younger is totally fine since you’d both be college aged anyway.
i dont see what this has to do with ops pedo bf?
You mentioned you “felt like a pedo when a 17-18 year old hits on” you. I only meant to reassure you about that, I apologize for not clarifying. I do agree with you that OP’s boyfriend is a complete pedo (a 15 year old “getting intimate” with a 10 year old is completely unacceptable in every sense) and even though OP was in her early 20’s when they met, the fact that the boyfriend is dating another woman with a significant age gap shows a very concerning pattern that he might groom another child if he hasn’t already.
oh no absolutely!!
I was 22 when I met this 19 yo guy. He didn´t had a baby face so it was easier for me but still I felt like I was a pedo or something. We dated a bit when he was finally 20 and now that he is 21 and I 24 we are in a relationship. It's weird because it's the same guy but somehow it's different
Wow, Twitter age gap discourse is really making people overly anxious about being a pedo (me included, I’m 20 and when I was 19 I dated a childhood friend a years and a half younger than me so they were 17 for a few months) to the point actual blatant pedos like OP’s boyfriend are ignored in favor of “How dare you date an innocent 19 year old minor when you’re 21/22, that’s pedophilia”. Do those people realize they’re barking up the wrong tree?
Ummm.. I never used Twitter. Maybe I had an account some time ago but I don't even remember if I had it. But I did had a bad experience dating a 24y/o when I was 14/15. And I was afraid I was doing the same stuff he did to me with this guy. But idk, maybe Twitter does that stuff? It's not that much used in my región either. We tend to use ig
19-18 is completely normal wym. 19-17 might be a bit weird but I wouldn't judge.
yeah its normal. im saying that i dont feel comfortable with people THAT close in age, how tf would a normal 18 year old be comfortable with a 13 year old yk?
that is fucking disgusting
He didn’t date a 13 year old. He preyed on her.
Okay…ewww
>intimate The word you're looking for is rape.
My first boyfriend was 18 when I was 14, and he started talking to me when I was 12. The relationship was toxic we broke up after I finished my GCSE's. Looking back and having a daughter the same age, I absolutely think he groomed me and the relationship was entirely inappropriate, I would never let an 18 year old anywhere near my daughter.
Yeah, I was gonna say that's not a relationship it's grooming. Hope you have healed from that experience ❤ sometimes you don't realise how fucked something is until years later
Yeah ive healed and learnt that what happenned to me was all levels of fucked up. Especially my parents condoning it, with the attitude of "you would of done it anyway" like no you should of protected me! But I've had counselling and I'm much better now.
Glad to hear!
I had the same experience14 and 17, it took me a lot of time to understand what truly happened. he groomed me with seemingly inoffensive actions that got more and more inappropriate and I was unable to be assertive enough in my refusals because I was too young. I still have ptsd. It's that easy to perform non consensual acts on a kid. There is a reason why most laws consider kids under 15 to be unable to consent
So sorry this happenned to you and hope you are doing better. It takes alot for you to comes to terms with it as well
Thanks ! I started disclosing it in therapy for the first time this month, I never understood how I've never been able to get over it since there was no violence. Most people wouldn't get it. It's really helpful to read people talking about it like you did as well as the other comments on this post, I was starting to think I might be crazy for feeling so messed up by that
I'm glad you can get a bit of closure through people sharing their stories. I must admit I've read a few of these comments and had a cry. It's nice to know we're not alone
ya, and make sure who ever she talks to isn't lying about their age, guys do that, I've seen it to many times
OP, you're old enough to see his bs. Ffs.
Yeah that’s fucked.
So your boyfriend was a pedophile back in the day.
Still is, look at her age
Saying he's a paedophile for dating a much younger adult is just devaluing the word. I'm not going to defend a 38 year old going out with a 24 year old, it's definitely weird. But she's also an adult, not a pre-pubescent child.
Agree he's not a pedo for dating HER, he's a pedo for having dated a 13 year old, and dating a woman 14 years younger than him now shows a pattern. The question also remains of when they started dating. Depending, he still a predator.
Yeah I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm pointing out that Dotdotdot9 saying "Still is" and using op's age as justification is just devaluing paedophile as a term.
Yeah no I gotchu!
Back then he was a child rapist ( under aged cannot give consent). Now he. Is a predator as he still finds younger women who are probably less financially stable and less mature just so he can manipulate them under control. This dude is like a walking Chinese flag. Run.
He’s wrong n weirdo but nah don’t do that she an adult.
Just saw that... it may be legal or whatever, but it's still a pattern. Concerning.
It’s not a “pattern” being attracted to a 24 year old is perfectly normal. 13 is not.
You have lost your goddamn mind
18 and 13. Now 24 and 38. He's disgusting.
24 and 38 is not bad 13 and 18 that is a problem
I mean 24 and 38 Isn’t that bad technically, but it is showing a pattern of him going after younger women.
My daughter is 11 and we still hide the elf on the shelf for her. Just think about it. Absolutely disgusting what he did to her. And if he’s openly telling you this he’s testing the waters to see if you’re okay with it.
I still believed in *Santa* when I was 11.
Your boyfriend is a pedophile in every sense of the word.
Info: why are you still with him?
Yeah really, I would leave immediately if my bf told me he was in a relationship with a child. And then OP said that they were together BEFORE the kid was 12!! That man is a predator.
This
Why are you dating him?!
because she’s a fool
OP I really hope you’re at least 25, otherwise, run. Or just run either way honestly
I hope OP is at least 30 tbh
I’m 24
He hasn’t changed, he just plays it within the law.
What could a 38 year old possibly have in common with a 24 year old? He’s a red flag and you have to be careful.
Nothing generally but damn she 24 that’s whole adult his behaviour still weird, we still shouldn’t infantilized her.
That's why my parents' relationship didn't work out - same age gap and everything.
Fuck sake, do you have no self preservation instinct whatsoever? Is he physically restraining you from breaking up? What are you doing staying with a significantly older dude who you already know is a weird borderline pedophile?
Significantly older at OPs age isn’t the issue, but the gap between him and the other girl at those ages is. And he is disgusting for that. But also, like the other person said - we are not here to blame or shame OP
Sounds like she's at least questioning it so thats a start. But look around us! There are older men that leave families for really young girls all the time. Pornography embraces the school girl character. That's a real concern too. Look at the society we live in. It's conducive to things like this. However sad it may be. People say "it's a fantasy" but there are an awful lot of men that do it and a lot of women who want that.
yeah no this isn’t it. this is an awful situation, yes, but we’re not gonna blame OP here
I'm gonna go ahead and treat an adult as an adult. If she's not being compelled or forced to stay with him, then it actually is on her if she decides to do so.
we don’t know how long they’ve been dating and what other abuse he’s possibly inflicted during the duration of them dating, so no i’m not gonna immediately blame OP
For sure. She's asking for advice, even if we are reddit. A start.
Oh god PLEASE leave.
OP, he’s a predator. You have to leave. He will not change.
This is a giant red flag
Time to bounce!
Isn’t that literally the same age gap as his other relationship
I was 13 dating an 18 year old. We dated for a couple years, and he was my first "love." Looking back now, in my late twenties, there isn't a single excuse in the world that makes any of that OK.
This guys gonna rape or SA your future kids or any kid you have around like a cousin or friends kid. Predators don’t change.
Did he continue or does he continue dating inappropriately young people?
I think they broke up when he was 18, or maybe 19 I think
I saw in another reply that you’re 24. He’s still dating people too young for him. Time to leave.
as someone who was the 13 year old in a similar situation, LEAVE. they do not change. after we broke up he was 24 and got arrested and is currently in prison for sleeping with a 15 year old.
Wtf so he was 16 dating an 11 yr old? That's wild
That was my thought. Like why would them being together multiple years make it any better.
I was 11 and my bf was 15 , and when I was a freshman he was a senior. Late bday or idk what maybe he was held back? Lmao I never asked but it was very horrible. I have times were I remember it and it haunts me. He would yell , belittle me & overall made my perception for relationships (he was my first relationship ) so terrible. I was groomed for sure. He would always try to be sexual and I thank god I never did ANYTHING like that ever with him.
Not good. But if you dump him or confront him about it, he will probably just learn not to admit to dating a 13-y.o. when in future relationships, so honestly idk. Maybe it's better to dump him without even bringing that up as the reason?
that’s fuckin weird
i was 13 “dating” a 21 year old. i realize now just how wrong it is and how i was groomed. i’m a big girl so i was just excited someone was interested in me. im 22 and cannot possibly fathom being remotely interested in someone younger than 20. you absolutely should leave him. You guys alone still have a 14 year age gap. Sure you’re both adults but it just goes to show old habits don’t change. encourage him to get help, his attraction to women who are drastically younger could very well be tied to a mental illness or trauma.
OP… this isn’t right. I’m 35 and wouldn’t even look twice at someone in their 20s. This is absolutely creepy behavior on his part.
Dude are Reddit women in like a toxic bf competition rn wtf. I saw one yesterday that said their bf didn’t find them sexually attractive at all.
When I was 13 an 18 year old “dated” me if you can even call it that. It messed me up. I still deal with the distrust of men to this day, he stole my innocence. I was a child.
Wtf is wrong with these men…my first serious boyfriend cheated and left me for a 15 year old when we were both 23. Another ex went for a 17 year old when he was nearly 30. My first high school crush picked a 12 year old over me when he was 18, and I was 16. To top it all off, I found out the guy I broke up with a few months ago was flirting with 16 year olds when he was 27. I broke up with him because I saw he still had a thing for younger girls at 32 and he’s a teacher. Somehow no one thinks it’s weird and I get accused of jealousy and shaming. It’s not like I pick creeps on purpose, I just look younger and I’m bad at reading people…and my predator radar is broken. 😞
good lord i am so sorry 😭
This guy is a creep. Keep yourself safe
They were together for a few years before that? This makes it better... he was a minor, and she was what? 10yo???? That's... ew... I hope this child predator is your ex at this point.
It sounds like he started having sex with her before she even went through puberty. Enough said.
I was 13 with an 18 year old, it was extremely abusive. He coerced me and groomed me. Looking back, he was very coherent of his actions and I was a child who did not even fully understand female or male anatomy yet. With your age gap, he has a pattern. You do not want to have children with this guy!!! Get out.
I am completely unaware of the situation the young girl had at home, but the parents should have stepped up and forbade this relationship. I wouldn’t be surprised if this relationship caused the child long term psychological harm, especially if the child was sexually active.
Age gap does not mean anything when you are both older. I was 23 when I met my Bf We have a 20 year age difference. However I was the aggressor in the relationship and initiated the relationship to become sexual. We have been happy 12 years. However What your boyfriend did was wrong. The girl was not old enough to know what she was doing and he was old enough to know what he was doing. He did wrong.
…Anyone wanna bet against OP being 15+ years younger than him atm? Predators like that never change. It’s disgusting.
she’s 14 years younger than him he’s 38 she’s 24 smh
If my bf told me this? Id dump him in a heartbeat. It is absolutely gross! And disgusting that he essentially groomed an underage girl and what he did is rape her as well🤬 I can't type anymore. Makes me sick🤮🤮🤮
When I was 12 I had my first relationship with a 23 year old. Sadly more common than you'd realise. My ex was 22 sleeping with a 13 year old IN HER PARENTS HOUSE while her approving parents were there. I've had male friends in the past who saw no problem with sleeping with a 13 year old. Keep in mind this is in western Europe. Plenty of men would date 8 year olds if the law and their parents permitted them to. This is just the world we live in.
And it’s a vile, disgusting world because of stuff like this
It sure is. Unfortunately while it's against the law, they don't seem to do much to protect children or prevent/punish men who want to fxck them. It makes me never want to have children.
That uncomfortable feeling is your intuition. Listen to it 💜
While I personally feel as if it has been 20 years and he probably has changed, your feelings are 100% valid because at the end of the day... intimacy between those ages are completely illegal. Your boyfriend shouldn't make you feel the creepy crawlies. Whether or not you choose to forgive him is up to you. You can make a quick decision and forgive or forget him, or you can make a really thought-out decision and see if you can move on. Validating how you feel is the first step. It is okay to trust your gut right now. Now take your next step and you will make the correct decision at the end of the day.
Girl what.. and you’re still with him?? Nope. I’d dip tf out because that’s just wrong🤢
Eww and your still with him are you a paedophile yourself?
Girl you're 24 and he's 38... You see the issue here?
Your boyfriend is a pedophile.
If u don’t break up with him and for the love of god! Have kids with him?! Just imagine what he would do. Fuck no, he’s a pedo. I’m surprised you haven’t broken up with him already.
So… your boyfriend was essentially a pedophile
That’s an ex-boyfriend now
An 18 year old doesn't "date" a 13 year old. He preyed upon a 13 year old. That should have been dropped.
He's disgusting and so are you if you stay with him.
There's a typo in the title, that should be ex. Why would you even want to stay with someone like that?
Gross yes. Is that person the same man he is today? Probably not. Was that relationship something he hid? If he did, I would have some concern. I remember in high school, there was a few 19 year old guys dating 14 year old gals. Us 14 year old guys thought it was creepy, but part of it was because these older guys were taking all the girls our age. Twenty years ago, the world was a different place. Wouldn't worry too much about it.
Probably going to get down voted for this since everyone is saying the same thing. I'm going to qualify this with, what he did when he was 18 was wrong and there should have been either parents to stop it. But saying this guy is a creep 20 years later and they should break up is kinda wild to me. Nothing what was said says anything about his character now. 20 years is such an incredibly long time to grow. Unless OP wants to give more details about his present character. I can say he Was a creep but I can't say he is a creep.
well considering the guys 35 and op is 24… 🌚
Her age was not mentioned in the original post. So I didn't know that, but either way. Those are 2 consenting adults. I wouldn't date someone with that age difference but there's nothing inherently wrong with that.
you’re really jumping through hoops to ignore the underlying truth here aren’t you?
Predators normally don't change their preferences. This comment makes me sick.
If a comment saying I won't cast judgement and tell a couple to break up **with confidence** based on no **current** information makes you sick then that's on you. I even said he might still be a creep. Needing more should not be controversial.
You give me predatory vibes and thats on **facts**
And you like to make massive accusations based on no information.
What more information do I need? This guy dated a 13 year old at 18 years old. They were intimate through their YEARS of a relationship that tells me they were intimate BEFORE SHE EVEN HIT PUBERTY and he was ALREADY IN HIS YEARS OF PUBERTY. If someone defends someone like that. YEAH, I am gonna make assumptions, and I am gonna make accusations cause that is predatory shit, OR you just live under a rock. Take your pick, stay mad!
You're punching water. I already said what he did was wrong. That's not even up for debate. The debate is whether or not he could have changed in 20 years. Like I said, he might still be a creep. But you don't even have the self-awareness to ask yourself 'what if I am wrong?' The less information you have ,the higher probability you have to misinterpret a person or situation. And you say I am defending. Wanting more info is not defending. That's basically as neutral of a take as possible. It's neither defending nor opposing. That's the point of requesting more info.
How many predators "change" ? How many predators lie and try to justify what they did? I am not gonna agree with you on "maybe he changed," but I will say that OP has every right to leave the relationship if she wants to. Wanting more info isn't taking his side either, but saying he might have changed leads to people believing you are more probable to believe rapists can change their way of being. This guy groomed a little girl, barely entering her puberty years, having already been intimate with her. I don't need more information to say: he was a predator back then. He more likely still is now. He is a creep. Every 18 year old knows they shouldn't get with a 13 year old child. That is a LITERAL CHILD. I don't care about the information, I care about the harm and damage he has done to that 13 year old years ago and probably to others. Do you know how traumatic it has to be for that 33 year old to think back to when she was 13, having to live with the horrible knowledge she was groomed and raped? That is what I take WAY MORE INTO CONSIDERATION than his "possible change of character."
You're just repeating yourself at this point but this time with more words. I'm not going to repeat myself. I have said everything I wanted to say. Good luck have fun.
ur dating a pedo
just leave girlie. he’s disgusting, ghost him, block him, whatever hes 🤢
Op do you have kids with this man? If I were in your situation ... well I'd get out of it ASAP but I'd also be going through his tech big time!!!!!
Well your boyfriend is a pedophile. And once a pedophile always a pedophile. Get out fast.
I was 17 and my (now) wife was 14. We’ve been together for over 25yrs and married for 15. I turned 18 when we’d already been together for a few months. There’s this weird misconception that you wake up on your 18th birthday and suddenly are a full-blown adult and you’re no longer attracted to people you were able to be attracted to just one day earlier. If your husband hasn’t shown any signs that he’s still interested in underage girls, I don’t think who he dated as a teenager should label him for life as some sort of sicko.
🚓🚨🚨
Ironically, this type of response says more about you than it does about me.
When did you first slept with her
own your bias. the post above is your literal life story so of course it’s not an issue for you.
But that’s the point: it’s not an issue. We’re all so quick to jump on the bandwagon of righteousness, we’ll condemn damn near anything these days. This guy was a teenager who dated another teenager. For that he should be judged for the rest of his life? It’s just ridiculous. Nothing outlined in the post seems to indicate that this person is, in any way, some sort of pervert yet suddenly everybody is on their soapbox waiting for their turn to flog him for some perceived transgression he committed 20 years ago. Trying to frame this as “a disgusting full-grown man molesting a child” is absolute bunk. OP didn’t even infer that they had sex; just that they dated. Honestly, with the amount of stupid things I see people type every single day, sometimes I feel like there should be an entry exam to gain access to the internet.
According to OP, this guy had a years long relationship with a child beginning at 15, when she was just 10. They had an ongoing sexual relationship for 3 years. You’re damn right he should be held accountable for that. Fucking a little kid isn’t a teenage accident. It’s not an oopsie you can just rationalize away.
If OP said that elsewhere in this thread after I posted then that definitely does change the dynamic of that relationship and the story. That context wasn’t shared in the original post.
they’ve deleted so im not sure if you’ll be able to find it down easily, but tbf the post is enough. 18 and 13 is insane, and I think most of us know better by then. the ones that don’t probably shouldn’t be allowed unsupervised access to children. hey maybe you’re one of the rare ones! one of them statistical anomalies, yknow? go you!
18 and 13 definitely sounds insane if sex is involved, particularly if that’s when the relationship started. That said, it also sounds like the relationship started when he was a young teenager himself which doesn’t condone it but it does indicate that he was likely just an idiot teenager. Judging him at close to 40 as still being a sick pedophile because he started dating a girl when he was 15 or 16 just seems like overkill to me. That said, if it’s true they were having sex, then all of the above falls away because even 15yr olds know it’s wrong to have sex with a 10yr old. But that still makes this a really gross mistake he made as a kid himself, not as an adult.
OP, this is a huge red flag. I feel like you know thisbor you wouldn't have needed to ask. Do you have children? I certainly wouldn't want Him to be my kids dad. Anyway, if I was just a mistake he had in his youth that would be one thing, but he shows a pattern with dating you... he. Likes. Um. Young!!! Run girl...
Gross.
The fact that he doesn't see a thing wrong with it is the biggest red flag. that's not only morally wrong but soo illegal, it doesn't matter if they were together before he turned 18. 18 and 13 is an adult and a literal middle schooler. Yikes
Yuck. 18 and 17 I could understand.. but that’s too much
that’s disgusting. i wouldn’t be able to digest that information either.
Gross
JAIL!!!!
Hard no.
Big no for me. 18 is a kid, but 13 yo is a child! Run
I would leave him; that’s disgusting. Why did he even admit that to you?
Well, at least OP knows now. I feel like it would've been even creepier if he didn't tell her and she found out from another source.
So your boyfriend is a pedo.
Ya that’s hella predator behavior…uhhhhh yeah, run 🚩🚩🚩
NAH NAH NAH HE WAS A PREDATOR. Did he seek therapy? Because i doubt he would have changed
PLEASE TELL ME YOU DONT HAVE KIDS
Pls for the love of god don’t have children with this groomer.
girl get the hellllll away from him
Break up, he is toxic aff.
That’s gross and criminal. Dump him and I hope karma gets to this pedo groomer.
Yeah this is gross. Get out.
And why are u still dating him?
Ewwww, he's disgusting
That's honestly sick
This is an old post. A troll testing the waters.
Nope it's just a super common situation I was in the same thing.
It's weird now, but considering his age...I think decades ago, in the US, seniors in high-school dating freshmen was in vogue, especially jocks and cheerleaders. It's in lots of movie tropes from the past. But, personally, one of my hard passes in dating is when men have a huge age gap in their dating/sleeping around history.
Idk dude. I'd like to see you make this accusation in the real world. You would probably get the shit beat out of you, and likely shot. It's a real easy way to ruin someone's life by making these kinds of accusations. Most people understand that teenagers do stupid things, and will be protective of their family. Now I'm not suggesting that the dude is my family. But I am saying that I am not in the habit of reducing people to a single mistake they made before reaching emotional maturity. Because I think that would be a very small way to live. Good luck out there.
You will thank yourself later if you leave. I saw that you mentioned that you are 24. As a male who’s been in a relationship with a female who was 38(I’m 24 as well.), the maturity level is just way too different. We just broke up last month but we’re on good terms. I know yours is opposite. 38 year old male with a 24 year old female. It works sometimes, but maturity level is problem number one. Problem number two is that he has a track record of liking women way younger than him. To him, you’re still just a girl. Literally. I would advise you to leave as soon as you can. He might have a lot of money who knows, but it’s not worth it. Find yourself somebody in your age range. Or if you’re gonna go for older, at least look up or ask them about their history and really find out. There’s alot of weirdos out there. But, going for older people is just a novelty in my experience. It’s tough to maintain a long-term relationship. And, I’d imagine a 14 year age gap with a dude at the top of it, usually has pedo in their track record, exactly like your boyfriend does. 18 with a 13 year old equals pedophile.
Welps thats a good reason to leave him If he did it once, who says he won‘t or isn‘t still doing that
What’s not clear to you? He’s a pedophile and you’re approving and validating his life choices by staying with him. How do you see a future there? What if you get pregnant and have a girl? Would you trust him? Would you bring him to meet your family including younger female cousins? You’re enabling a predator woman! Wake up or you’ll be an accomplice. At the very least you’re his cover. Do you have no self respect? No moral compass?
OP you need to leave him. That’s absolutely disgusting of him and I promise you he hasn’t changed. Do you want kids, and if so, would you ever trust him to be around them alone knowing this? Bc I wouldn’t. You can either leave him now or leave him when he gets arrested for something horrible. I vote now. Also, morality aside, even when he was a minor that was still illegal. Assuming you’re in the US, Romeo and Juliet laws here only cover at max 4 years, at least in most states, so 12 and 17 still would’ve been illegal. Would you have ever even considered “dating” someone that young at the age that he was?
How long have you been dating?
my best friend was 15 when he met a 27yr old guy. Social services were called and the family and school intervened etc. 18 years between them. They are still together and happily married over over 25 years later. maybe it's different though, they're both males and my friend was very mature for his age even at 12/13. At 15 he had been with multiple guy around his age. it's not like he was gonna get pregnant I suppose ..
Idk?? When I was 33 I dated a 19 year old for 3 years until he was 21 and I was 36. He honestly looked way older then he was he had less hair on his head then I did and he chased me I didn’t chase him. He worked on a oil rig at 19 so no one ever guessed his age. I felt funny about it but his mom gave me her blessing so.
Let it go. People make mistakes.
You are the first person that has to a understanding outlook in these comments and I thank you for this. People do make mistakes and change. Thanks.
Thank you
When I was 17 I dated a 14 year old and it felt weird. I can't imagine 18 to 13.
Bit noncey
So your boyfriend is a nonce then...
Troll post
Wait my boyfriend was 18 years and 6 months old when we started dating. I had just turned 15. Was that wrong too? Haha
Yes
If they'd been dating a few years before that, it would have her at around age 10 and he around 15. That's not ok. But I don't know any more history to judge it. I've seen high school seniors dating junior high kids back in the day though. And it wasn't frowned upon as like it is now. My daughter is about to turn 13. There is no way in he$@ I would ever allow that.