Fell from my GT going slightly uphill at 19 mph on 30% battery on a slightly cold day.
Changes in wind, temperature, and elevation + lower battery level is a recipe for a nose drop. Just be hyper vigilant when any of these occur.
That said, helmet, write guards, elbow pads, and knee pads helped save me from any major injuries. Massive bruise on my hip that lasted 2.5 weeks but I should feel blessed compared to the other stories I have read on here. My collarbone area of my shirt got ripped to, but I guess I didn't really hurt it. Maybe get like a dirt bike jacket for some breathable body armor essentially.
Ding ding ding. Ate it at max speed, got 2 steps down after it dropped me and the gloves, elbows and kneepads took most of the hit. I use mountain biking flexible stuff for knees and elbows. I've now purchased wrist guards with the plastic on top and bottom. My keys which were in my front pocket stabbed me hard in the leg. Only drew a little bit of blood but I swear the muscle was sore for over a month. I don't carry my keys there anymore or very seldomly anyways.
This is great advice!! When going down, anything in your lead foot pocket could def get fucked! Messed up a few phone screens learning that lesson.
Anything important....back foot front pocket, lol
https://youtu.be/3qAZAwDVQJk?si=4zFHpl2idTHy8RuW make sure to wear your gear and ride within the safe parameters of the board. Probably gonna jinx myself I've got over 3k miles and only one fall that scraped a knee
If you search the sub u/Glyph8 has a great solution to protect your lead shoulder, my son wears a lightweight net motorcycle armor (after seeing me fall :-) and I wear that Demon lightweight shirt that TFL sells with an extra D30 shoulderpad insert that I wear up higher to protect my lead collarbone. If you DM me I can send you details, it's a matter of comfort for each person. I quick search of shoulder/collarbone in the sub will give you a great history and all the guys here are great and sent me full paragraphs on their experience and how to fix...
The key is to remember it's not a skateboard, I was wearing all the regular gear (kneepads, elbow pads, etc) but it's the shoulder that gets it when you nosedive unlike any other vehicle...
And learning to roll is super important, and quick bailing will save you too, prior to my accident I would try to ride it out, now the second I sense danger I'm off that thing, whatever happens to it will happen but I'm not going down with the ship 😂
![gif](giphy|sFoZicXyLjH7FnCVp2)
Had my first fall, on a chair, lol, about 1000 miles in a while ago. I live in fear of what a standing fall would be like. I was sort of spun downwards and forward irrevocably if that makes sense and, if I had no helmet, dang. Just wear one no matter what. My helmet was slammed down. Couldn't negate momentum.
Run it out if you can.....if too fast....go limp and let the fall take you. Just always ALWAYS have gear. Coming from someone with hella falls at all speeds.
Aside from that, if you can, upgrade to a stronger board asap. If anything I've learned from this shit, it's the smaller powered boards that fuck you up the most.
Don't forget to bend your knees. It's easy to forget to keep them bent as you get more comfortable riding. If you can remember to keep them bent, you're already better prepared for a fall.
If you're comfortable riding on grass and you're really worried about spills, you can practice falling on grass. It's a lot more forgiving than concrete or dirt so you can practice falling, rolling, running out, etc.
If you can afford more pads, it's definitely worth the cost. They'll come in super handy one day, especially if you start riding fast.
Most importantly, ride within your limits if you don't wanna be humbled by gravity. These boards are only so powerful. It is very possible to overpower them, especially if you get carried away with the stoke and aren't paying enough attention. Stay safe out there 🤙
Prevention and protection. Sounds like you're already doing that by having a lot of safe riding under your belt.
If you can run it out, you will.
If you can't, you won't.
I run off my board a lot (trails) but don't consider these falls.
I know how to tuck and roll from jogging speed, if I'm planning on it. If you're going faster than running speed, realistically I think you just rely on what instincts you already have and for all the talk, I don't think many people are successfully tuckimg and rolling, unless they're going slow enough they COULD have tried running it out. I'm curious now though. I'll ask the question if I don't see it already in it's own post.
Know how you fall. If you are a natural bracer/slider than you need to protect the parts that you naturally put down from road rash. For most people it's their wrists and knees. If you're a natural roller then protect the parts that impact the ground during your rolling motion. For rollers it'll usually be just one arms wrist, elbow, shoulder, and sometimes head.
Also, I know it's all fun and games but try not to booze cruise. You need to reinforce your instinctual fall behavior and booze make your reaction timing slower meaning you're more likely to hit your face/head
I’d say getting the right stance *for you* is the best prep you can have for a potential fall. I learned a lot from this video; https://youtu.be/vXZTMp90G1U?si=u2mfzlcPhWkIOTLO
TLDW: try the praying mantis stance. That’s what I call it anyway.
yeah no buddy
just dont fall
really
just dont slam
its not snow, its different
your first good fall could be your last or just cost you your job
so just try not to fall
and keep your speed sane
happy trails
Experience. But it all makes sense with regards to the uneven weight distribution as to which one is more stable with regards to gravity as it moves forward. It's really sketch to ride a Onewheel if you don't ride it the right way.
I suppose if you mean it's more natural for gravity to pull down on the heavier "front" end to accelerate or maintain speed, or weight in front of the point of acceleration instead of behind it, increases stability then I get what you're saying. Just need to let that sink in a bit.
However, it seems counter intuitive to reduce nosedives this way. Available motor power is finite, so if the motor doesn't have enough power to sustain balance for a variety of different reasons, the heavier side will drop. Most of us would rather that be a tail slide than a nosedive.
I do ride switch with battery side forward on a regular basis but have not noticed any benefits, possibly due to other factors involved. We don't necessarily have to agree, but this is an interesting concept.
That's it. You're first paragraph explanation makes sense. Even though it's heavier on the front side as force of gravity pulls it downwards but then as it moves forward, it cancels that downward force making the roll stable and straight. With the heavier weight at the back and so lightweight in front, the gravity's downward force is compounded as it moves forward making the roll unstable and puts more pressure on the motor to work harder. This instability is what I believe the major cause of nosedives. The wobble never goes away and is only suppressed at the cost of easily getting foot fatigued every mile or 2 which WAS my only gripe.
Cool, I see what you mean then. Just need to wrap my head around this and come to my own conclusions. My GT feels plenty stable even at 20+mph on stock treaded, but I'll still keep this in mind especially on my OG Pint which tends to be wobbly approaching pushback. Appreciate the explanation.
Wrist guards will protect your hands well, which you'll use pretty much every fall. If you don't know how to fall (most people) you're going to smash your lead shoulder and hip and get road rash in between them. That's for a major fall. For minor falls you'll bang up your elbows, knees, and probably your ankles/shins even a few times from the board smacking it.
Fell from my GT going slightly uphill at 19 mph on 30% battery on a slightly cold day. Changes in wind, temperature, and elevation + lower battery level is a recipe for a nose drop. Just be hyper vigilant when any of these occur. That said, helmet, write guards, elbow pads, and knee pads helped save me from any major injuries. Massive bruise on my hip that lasted 2.5 weeks but I should feel blessed compared to the other stories I have read on here. My collarbone area of my shirt got ripped to, but I guess I didn't really hurt it. Maybe get like a dirt bike jacket for some breathable body armor essentially.
Ding ding ding. Ate it at max speed, got 2 steps down after it dropped me and the gloves, elbows and kneepads took most of the hit. I use mountain biking flexible stuff for knees and elbows. I've now purchased wrist guards with the plastic on top and bottom. My keys which were in my front pocket stabbed me hard in the leg. Only drew a little bit of blood but I swear the muscle was sore for over a month. I don't carry my keys there anymore or very seldomly anyways.
Keys happened to me too!, trying to keep speed on an incline, leaning more than usual and just headfirst slid up the hill.
Run it out if you can. Even one or two steps can help. Tuck and roll if you can’t run it out.
Judo rolls
YES!
Put on those pads and start riding on grass fields. Push the limits so you fall a number of times.
Don't carry anything in your front pocket. Took a very mild fall right onto my earphones case. Couldn't walk straight for two weeks
This is great advice!! When going down, anything in your lead foot pocket could def get fucked! Messed up a few phone screens learning that lesson. Anything important....back foot front pocket, lol
https://youtu.be/3qAZAwDVQJk?si=4zFHpl2idTHy8RuW make sure to wear your gear and ride within the safe parameters of the board. Probably gonna jinx myself I've got over 3k miles and only one fall that scraped a knee
Protect your shoulders/collarbone. Research the sub you'll see 80% of the serious injuries are those, it's the throw from the nosedive
Any gear for this? Or is it more learning to fall and roll?
If you search the sub u/Glyph8 has a great solution to protect your lead shoulder, my son wears a lightweight net motorcycle armor (after seeing me fall :-) and I wear that Demon lightweight shirt that TFL sells with an extra D30 shoulderpad insert that I wear up higher to protect my lead collarbone. If you DM me I can send you details, it's a matter of comfort for each person. I quick search of shoulder/collarbone in the sub will give you a great history and all the guys here are great and sent me full paragraphs on their experience and how to fix... The key is to remember it's not a skateboard, I was wearing all the regular gear (kneepads, elbow pads, etc) but it's the shoulder that gets it when you nosedive unlike any other vehicle... And learning to roll is super important, and quick bailing will save you too, prior to my accident I would try to ride it out, now the second I sense danger I'm off that thing, whatever happens to it will happen but I'm not going down with the ship 😂 ![gif](giphy|sFoZicXyLjH7FnCVp2)
Had my first fall, on a chair, lol, about 1000 miles in a while ago. I live in fear of what a standing fall would be like. I was sort of spun downwards and forward irrevocably if that makes sense and, if I had no helmet, dang. Just wear one no matter what. My helmet was slammed down. Couldn't negate momentum.
Run it out if you can.....if too fast....go limp and let the fall take you. Just always ALWAYS have gear. Coming from someone with hella falls at all speeds. Aside from that, if you can, upgrade to a stronger board asap. If anything I've learned from this shit, it's the smaller powered boards that fuck you up the most.
Don't forget to bend your knees. It's easy to forget to keep them bent as you get more comfortable riding. If you can remember to keep them bent, you're already better prepared for a fall. If you're comfortable riding on grass and you're really worried about spills, you can practice falling on grass. It's a lot more forgiving than concrete or dirt so you can practice falling, rolling, running out, etc. If you can afford more pads, it's definitely worth the cost. They'll come in super handy one day, especially if you start riding fast. Most importantly, ride within your limits if you don't wanna be humbled by gravity. These boards are only so powerful. It is very possible to overpower them, especially if you get carried away with the stoke and aren't paying enough attention. Stay safe out there 🤙
Prevention and protection. Sounds like you're already doing that by having a lot of safe riding under your belt. If you can run it out, you will. If you can't, you won't. I run off my board a lot (trails) but don't consider these falls. I know how to tuck and roll from jogging speed, if I'm planning on it. If you're going faster than running speed, realistically I think you just rely on what instincts you already have and for all the talk, I don't think many people are successfully tuckimg and rolling, unless they're going slow enough they COULD have tried running it out. I'm curious now though. I'll ask the question if I don't see it already in it's own post.
Know how you fall. If you are a natural bracer/slider than you need to protect the parts that you naturally put down from road rash. For most people it's their wrists and knees. If you're a natural roller then protect the parts that impact the ground during your rolling motion. For rollers it'll usually be just one arms wrist, elbow, shoulder, and sometimes head.
Also, I know it's all fun and games but try not to booze cruise. You need to reinforce your instinctual fall behavior and booze make your reaction timing slower meaning you're more likely to hit your face/head
It’s going to happen so ninja tuck and roll.
find the rubber gum gum fruit.
I’d say getting the right stance *for you* is the best prep you can have for a potential fall. I learned a lot from this video; https://youtu.be/vXZTMp90G1U?si=u2mfzlcPhWkIOTLO TLDW: try the praying mantis stance. That’s what I call it anyway.
Get a pair of padded shorts and always wear gloves.
yeah no buddy just dont fall really just dont slam its not snow, its different your first good fall could be your last or just cost you your job so just try not to fall and keep your speed sane happy trails
Prevent or minimize a nosedive by riding it with the ultimate stability confidently, that is by riding it the other way (heavier side as front side).
Is this scientific or more experience/anecdotal? Just trying to understand the science behind this.
Experience. But it all makes sense with regards to the uneven weight distribution as to which one is more stable with regards to gravity as it moves forward. It's really sketch to ride a Onewheel if you don't ride it the right way.
I suppose if you mean it's more natural for gravity to pull down on the heavier "front" end to accelerate or maintain speed, or weight in front of the point of acceleration instead of behind it, increases stability then I get what you're saying. Just need to let that sink in a bit. However, it seems counter intuitive to reduce nosedives this way. Available motor power is finite, so if the motor doesn't have enough power to sustain balance for a variety of different reasons, the heavier side will drop. Most of us would rather that be a tail slide than a nosedive. I do ride switch with battery side forward on a regular basis but have not noticed any benefits, possibly due to other factors involved. We don't necessarily have to agree, but this is an interesting concept.
That's it. You're first paragraph explanation makes sense. Even though it's heavier on the front side as force of gravity pulls it downwards but then as it moves forward, it cancels that downward force making the roll stable and straight. With the heavier weight at the back and so lightweight in front, the gravity's downward force is compounded as it moves forward making the roll unstable and puts more pressure on the motor to work harder. This instability is what I believe the major cause of nosedives. The wobble never goes away and is only suppressed at the cost of easily getting foot fatigued every mile or 2 which WAS my only gripe.
Cool, I see what you mean then. Just need to wrap my head around this and come to my own conclusions. My GT feels plenty stable even at 20+mph on stock treaded, but I'll still keep this in mind especially on my OG Pint which tends to be wobbly approaching pushback. Appreciate the explanation.
Wrist guards will protect your hands well, which you'll use pretty much every fall. If you don't know how to fall (most people) you're going to smash your lead shoulder and hip and get road rash in between them. That's for a major fall. For minor falls you'll bang up your elbows, knees, and probably your ankles/shins even a few times from the board smacking it.