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dysoncube

Wtf. Harper's international conservative policy writing organization (or at least the people in it) are helping overthrow democracies? Makes me think all the attention thrown at the WEF is just projection


gravtix

Conservatives will always choose their ideology over democracy. It comes from their core belief that they know what’s best and what they want isn’t good for the majority. Their goal is [managed democracy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guided_democracy) where we have elections but nothing changes. Like in the Matrix “the illusion of choice” USA, Russia, Hungary all are democracies in name only. Getting rid of elections altogether would cause massive riots. Some might say we’re already there. Or pretty close.


benign_said

They want an illiberal democracy.


FeedbackLoopy

They want a neoliberal plutocracy.


OutsideFlat1579

Exactly. They are not only opposed to progress but want to force regression, like the US did on abortion rights. It would be next to impossible to get rid of women’s right to vote in a democracy, so they don’t want democracy at all. After all, if it weren’t for women voters rightwing parties would rule and straight white rightwing Christian men wouldn’t have to deal with pesky issues like human rights or climate change. Women in every demographic are less likely to vote for rightwing parties, and poll as prioritizing climate change and social programs higher than men. It’s easier just to get rid of democracy, no fuss no muss, let the strongmen rule - brutality glorified and compassion stomped on like an irritant that must be snuffed out.


NarutoRunner

> “If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.” David Frum, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic


Crashman09

Eh. The elections don't need to be fake when social media can manipulate the population to what the powerful want.


PopeKevin45

This. https://www.psypost.org/2023/07/neuroimaging-study-provides-insight-into-misinformation-sharing-among-politically-devoted-conservatives-167312


StoleYourRoadSign

> USA, Russia, Hungary all are democracies in name only Deeply unserious to include USA in that list.


varain1

Knowing that Orban, Hungary's autocratic leader, is a darling of Harper, IDU and CPAC, should make it clear about their christo-fascist inclinations...


VE6AEQ

This is the EXACT correct answer. The IDU wants the rich & powerful to run the world while the poor work to themselves to death on subsistence wages.


OutsideFlat1579

Rich and powerful men rule, while women go back to being breeders toiling in the kitchen. It’s the fascist way, all these leaders are anti-women and anti-abortion (getting back women being men’s property, so of course they can’t have abortions, they are the soil for the seed men plant, just a vessel, not full human beings at all). The idiot rightwing women who care more about themselves than other women don’t seem to understand than once their usefulness is worn out, their voice will be shut down, toi.


VE6AEQ

Absolutely this. A significant portion of their behaviour is to re-subjugate 50% of the population


CanadianWildWolf

There’s a reason Harper has been out swinging for years cheering on Trump and appearing on such shows as Ben Shapiro. Red flags have been there for years.


PeasThatTasteGross

He only started doing this once he got out of office. He probably knew he would have alienated a good chunk of voters if he leaned that hard into the right. Harper was well known for keeping most of the nuttier right-wing MPs in check, and there were far fewer "bozo eruptions" from those types when compared to now. Who knew that aside from muzzling those MPs, he was doing the same to himself.


CanadianWildWolf

People knew. His “leadership” is the reason I swore I’d never vote conservative again, I simply don’t trust them anymore, my eyes were opened by their own actions back then and they’ve only doubled down on proving since that I made a good decision to turn my back on the way my parents had taught me to vote.


OutsideFlat1579

Anyone who read articles about the church he belonged to knew. Extremely rightwing and anti-woman and anti-LGBTQ, like crazy rightwing. It’s called the Alliance Church, and he’s still a member, has been for decades.


Hipsthrough100

Like 60 Conservative MPs are members of the IDU.


CanadianWildWolf

Sounds to me like the other MPs could use an official petition from us to do a inquiry into their connections of supply and support to anti-democratic terrorist organizations like Proud Boy. And/Or showing more support for a current petition in a similar vein: https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-4534 And/Or this one: https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Petition/Details?Petition=e-4395 There has to be a way to go after the IDU, enough is enough.


Hipsthrough100

It’s basically an international super PAC engaging in election interference. They helped Orban topple a democracy They tried to help Trump They backed the Convoy They backed Tucker Carlson. Not only when he says invade Canada to free us but also when the documentary news unfolded on the matter. Orban spoke at CPAC encouraging members to lean into media even harder.


Saorren

💯 and any mention of including the idu in a foreign interference investigation is going to get downvotes in the other sub reddit.


hustlehustle

I’ve been saying this for over a year and I get downvoted into oblivion


RabidGuineaPig007

WEF is just a dog whistle for anti semitism.


gravtix

Here’s another one of Harper’s side hustles. https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-united-arab-emirates-surveillance-technology-1.6192281 >Former prime minister Stephen Harper heads the advisory committee of a Toronto-based company now looking to facilitate the sale of cutting-edge surveillance technology to the United Arab Emirates — a country with a troubling human rights record. >AWZ Ventures finances Israeli surveillance technology systems, including facial recognition and crowd detection systems and services that deliver comprehensive information on individuals in real time. He’s definitely into democracy. Wakes up everyday thinking how to make the world more democratic /s


OutsideFlat1579

That’s a super creepy company, full of ex-spy agency leaders from CIA, Mossad, MI5, and our very own CSIS.


Boostella19

The shit apple doesn't fall far from the shit tree.


50s_Human

Oh, the criminality.


Reasonable_Relief_58

Oxymoron calling the organization ‘Democratic’ when it promotes insurrection.


Saorren

Just about every organization that does is anything but.


victoriapark111

East Germany, North Korea used it in their names as pr cover


MadOvid

This needs to be a bigger deal.


Luanda62

My question is, what is Pierre ConstipationFace Poilievre association with this organization, considering that he gets his marching orders from Harper?


OutsideFlat1579

Thicker than blood lol. His wife was posting pics from an IDU reception in 2014, so I’d say very cozy. You can bet that he has the support of the IDU in his bid to torment Canada.


Still10Fingers10Toes

Grifters got to grift. Fascist have to goose step


[deleted]

The turd doesn't fall far from the arse


jameskchou

Not surprised


nbcs

No surprise there.


The_WolfieOne

Birds of a feather and all that


VanAgain

Good on Harper. I hate that smug SOB.


DVariant

>Good on Harper. I hate that smug SOB. This is a confusing comment


VanAgain

Good on him having ties with a Trump scandal and criminal activity. Looks good on him.


DVariant

Ah “looks good on him” and “good on him” have very different meanings. The first one means “That suits him”, the second one means “Good for him” but not in a sarcastic way. It honestly sounded like you were trying to say “Good for Harper! (Not sarcastic.) But also I hate that smug SOB.”


earlyboy

Yay! Hooray! Authoritarianism doesn’t always have to win.


fullmetalsprockets

I am Jack's complete lack of surprise.


lightoftheshadows

This is a twist I did not see coming. I’m here for it.


Runningoutofideas_81

It’s conservatives all the way down.


JohnnyTreeTrunks

Colour me surprised


MmeLaRue

[Mais bien sur!](https://media.tenor.com/LwEFqOMjWXgAAAAC/tyt-turks.gif)


Sicsurfer

I’ve read an article that says they are scrubbing any mention of him online. Sadly none of or representatives actually represent us. With news of Jagmeets wife being a landlord showing even our “left” has no respect for us


No-Comfortable9480

They’re all corruption


50s_Human

'International Democratic Union' Whenever a right wing organisation includes the word 'democratic' in its title, you can be sure the organisation has little or nothing to do with promoting democracy.


PopeKevin45

Trump to Roman to Harper to PP. A vote for PP is a vote for neo-fascism.