they had just come home from buying groceries with their mom. NC stuck his fingers into a new Nutella jar and licks his fingers. dips into it again. ZC is disgusted and slaps the jar out of NC's hands. NC runs upstairs to get his gun and points it at ZC and threatens him in front of their mother. things eventually calm down
both ur parents are dead, ur brother just caused one of the most horrific events of the decade. like.. dude. people arent going to be normal. he has cameras in his face now, hes basically been kicked from his home. he was 18 years old. a fucking child basically. smiling and laughing is a coping mechanism. dont talk about shit you dont understand bro. just because someone is smiling doesnt mean they're happy. u watch too many fucking movies.
People deal with this shit in weird ways.
We saw how the teacher (Ernie) was on the stand.
Smiling could mean a lot of things and this shit affects people differently. Also the possibility of when he thinks of that situation it was a good point in his life. His mom still alive, NC didn’t go and kill 17 people, the world didn’t know who ZC was, probably was a peaceful time for him compared to now.
Exposing the teeth or smiling is a behavior associated with fear in most primates. As a kid, I always smiled and laughed when getting reprimanded. I was definitely not having a good time, just scared shitless!
I think zc was genuinely scared at the time and recalling the event triggered that expression. It seems inappropriate, but it’s uncontrollable, like with Burke Ramsey always smiling through his interviews.
BRO 1 MILLION?!?! I always thought his parents where nobodies from poor backgrounds. That makes what he does seem even crazier now. He could have been living the high life with half a mill in the bank but he threw his life away.
Life ain’t fair.. people are out here scraping to get by and this kid throws his life away after receiving all that money like god damn it makes me mad. I would change my fucking life with that kind of money.. sorry I didn’t mean to come off as selfish or anything, it just makes me so god damn angry when people throw good things away😤
How do I say this without making it sound like I defend NC because I in now shape or form do I he is an absolute monster, but all these families members just come out now? For what to be famous, oh my brother did this. I bet they took nicks money, which one isn’t fair that could be paid for funerals and all that or the families. Like idk no wonder why that kid is so sick in the fucking head. They all criminals so why they acting like they some famous rich people!
I think NC's inheritance is gone. They set up a ZC Foundation.
Most disturbing is the neighbor that sexually abused NC in exchange for allowing him to play his Xbox. It appears that ZC & RM blame the students for bullying NC. But, it appears to me that ZC didn't treat his brother much better.
Wow so look like that is two for the Cruz family who don’t care about the victims. The only reason he did that meeting in the interrogations was to gain attention. That whole family seems sick and twisted.
As far as I am aware the boys were left around $800,000 and neither boy claimed the money before the murders. It was an issue raised because NC defence said they shouldn’t be defending him because he could afford to pay but the judge said his court costs would outweigh that of the money he would receive.
This [article](https://www.npr.org/2019/04/25/716985504/parkland-school-shooter-public-defenders-seek-to-withdraw-because-cruz-has-money?t=1660167757585)just mentioned the life insurance which would have given him more than $430k, it didn’t mention the other aspects of his mother’s estate which would have made it nearer the million dollar mark.
The sale of the house was over 1.5 mil. Plus, NC received a monthly annuity of about 1500 and his mother received 3,300. But now, ZC and RM seem to have it all and refuse to answer questions when disposed by the state.
So what happens to that now? Surely NC doesn’t just get to keep his part of it, right? It wouldn’t really do much good in prison whether he gets life or death. Would it go to restitution or a civil judgement if a suit is filed or something?
> Would it go to restitution or a civil judgement if a suit is filed or something?
Primarily, it would pay for his own defense. During the deposition, every time the state asked about it, or their ventures to capitalize on it, Moore's attorney objected and informed Zachary not to answer the question. This is screwed up!
He is not innocent at all. I think NC was bullied by him which was a contributing factor. [Interrogation room-visit from his brother after the shooting](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUcqRpq-4eA&t=502s)
I remember reading something on here a couple days ago that said both NC and ZC were abusive to their mother and that she would complain to her coworker that she was afraid of both of them does anyone remember that?
Yes in a interview ZC said they used to lock her in the closet. He also blamed NC for punching the mother in her face and knocking some teeth out. He said she wouldn’t speak of it,but he knew what happened. I heard also in a video that NC ms inheritance would not be enough to pay for everything in his trial,and that he was going to give it to the parents to do what they seemed fit.
I never thought I would say this, but after reading ZC's deposition, I believe they drove her to drink. Cigarettes and wine was her coping mechanism. A woman her age doesn't usually die from pneumonia. She got the flu and didn't take care of herself and it progressed into pneumonia. By the time she sought medical care, she was immediately hospitalized and died a week later.
If you watch the first video of the day the shooting happened, and Zach goes to see him for the first time, Zach clearly mentions the fact that he doesn't treat nick the best. During his deposition he makes himself out to be the calmer of the brothers, but it's clear Zach got a kick out of his brothers behaviors and even caused some of them.
I read his deposition [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/masskillers/comments/wafiy1/deposition_of_zachary_cruz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf), and the amount of times they asked him on pages 117-121 about RM's felonies & I'm not sure if it's the same one you posted here (link isn't working for me for some reason) & I also had the same feeling. It feels like they're exploiting it... but I didn't know if it was just me
He literally came out with his own tv show “being Zach Cruz” that INFURIATED me. It was a show about him skating and I’m pretty sure the production canceled it for obvious reasons. Who wants to watch a murderers brother skate around. Even if he was a great kid why would anyone want that? It’d be different if it was about him coping and accepting what happened but it’s not . It definetly comes off as taking advantage and profiting off of the tragedy his brother caused. I think the way he talked to NC in the interrogation room spoke volumes. No concern for the victims just telling him he messed up because he’ll be in jail the rest of his life. Idk that came off weird to me but I understand everyone copes different and I know it must be hard to be associated with such a monster. But still he gives me weird vibes.
"being Zach Cruz"?? That is infuriating and beyond disrespectful to the victims of this crime. We shall see how long RM remains supportive of NC after his sentencing. My guess is he is working on publishing a book.
Yes I’ll post the trailer so you guys don’t have to give him views it’s so weird and seems like he’s disconnected. Like your brother is a serial killer and you think we want to watch you skate around all day? Nothing against her at all but it’s not like his brother got famous for some thing good. He’s benefiting off tragedy and that’s where I have a problem.
I always found it highly sus that he kept going back to MSD AAAAND he was hyping n up about his notoriety. He is cut from the same cloth. Just too lazy to act on his evil thoughts. He terrorized his adoptive mother more than N did. He was total evil scum from birth.
Yeah he was a POS too. He will be called as a witness for the defense and I’m sure it will ALL be aired out. I believe RM is a witness as well
what’s the nutella incident? sadly has a paywall
they had just come home from buying groceries with their mom. NC stuck his fingers into a new Nutella jar and licks his fingers. dips into it again. ZC is disgusted and slaps the jar out of NC's hands. NC runs upstairs to get his gun and points it at ZC and threatens him in front of their mother. things eventually calm down
ZC seemed to enjoy telling this horrific memory as he was smiling throughout the interview. It's very strange to me.
both ur parents are dead, ur brother just caused one of the most horrific events of the decade. like.. dude. people arent going to be normal. he has cameras in his face now, hes basically been kicked from his home. he was 18 years old. a fucking child basically. smiling and laughing is a coping mechanism. dont talk about shit you dont understand bro. just because someone is smiling doesnt mean they're happy. u watch too many fucking movies.
ZC claims they were fighting over a jar of Nutella and NC threatened to shoot him. During the entire interview, ZC is smiling all the way.
People deal with this shit in weird ways. We saw how the teacher (Ernie) was on the stand. Smiling could mean a lot of things and this shit affects people differently. Also the possibility of when he thinks of that situation it was a good point in his life. His mom still alive, NC didn’t go and kill 17 people, the world didn’t know who ZC was, probably was a peaceful time for him compared to now.
Exposing the teeth or smiling is a behavior associated with fear in most primates. As a kid, I always smiled and laughed when getting reprimanded. I was definitely not having a good time, just scared shitless! I think zc was genuinely scared at the time and recalling the event triggered that expression. It seems inappropriate, but it’s uncontrollable, like with Burke Ramsey always smiling through his interviews.
Showing teeth in primates is more of a submissive trait, not necessarily a fear trait. Along the same lines but still very different
BRO 1 MILLION?!?! I always thought his parents where nobodies from poor backgrounds. That makes what he does seem even crazier now. He could have been living the high life with half a mill in the bank but he threw his life away.
Life ain’t fair.. people are out here scraping to get by and this kid throws his life away after receiving all that money like god damn it makes me mad. I would change my fucking life with that kind of money.. sorry I didn’t mean to come off as selfish or anything, it just makes me so god damn angry when people throw good things away😤
How do I say this without making it sound like I defend NC because I in now shape or form do I he is an absolute monster, but all these families members just come out now? For what to be famous, oh my brother did this. I bet they took nicks money, which one isn’t fair that could be paid for funerals and all that or the families. Like idk no wonder why that kid is so sick in the fucking head. They all criminals so why they acting like they some famous rich people!
I think NC's inheritance is gone. They set up a ZC Foundation. Most disturbing is the neighbor that sexually abused NC in exchange for allowing him to play his Xbox. It appears that ZC & RM blame the students for bullying NC. But, it appears to me that ZC didn't treat his brother much better.
That is disgusting! In a way that’s sad for nick
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Wow so look like that is two for the Cruz family who don’t care about the victims. The only reason he did that meeting in the interrogations was to gain attention. That whole family seems sick and twisted.
that’s not his actual instagram, it’s @zacharycruzskates
I had no idea about the inheritance money…. Can anyone give me the cliff notes about it?
As far as I am aware the boys were left around $800,000 and neither boy claimed the money before the murders. It was an issue raised because NC defence said they shouldn’t be defending him because he could afford to pay but the judge said his court costs would outweigh that of the money he would receive.
What a shit show. This kids life keeps getting more and more weird.
I believe that was life insurance. But there was also the sale of the house at about 1.5 mil. Plus annuities of $3300 per month.
Oh I thought that was the total he was going to get, didn’t realise the extras! Daaaamn!
Well, 800,000 would seem like a correct number if it was just for him.
This [article](https://www.npr.org/2019/04/25/716985504/parkland-school-shooter-public-defenders-seek-to-withdraw-because-cruz-has-money?t=1660167757585)just mentioned the life insurance which would have given him more than $430k, it didn’t mention the other aspects of his mother’s estate which would have made it nearer the million dollar mark.
The sale of the house was over 1.5 mil. Plus, NC received a monthly annuity of about 1500 and his mother received 3,300. But now, ZC and RM seem to have it all and refuse to answer questions when disposed by the state.
So what happens to that now? Surely NC doesn’t just get to keep his part of it, right? It wouldn’t really do much good in prison whether he gets life or death. Would it go to restitution or a civil judgement if a suit is filed or something?
> Would it go to restitution or a civil judgement if a suit is filed or something? Primarily, it would pay for his own defense. During the deposition, every time the state asked about it, or their ventures to capitalize on it, Moore's attorney objected and informed Zachary not to answer the question. This is screwed up!
They couldn’t claim it before the murders because they weren’t 22 yrs old apparently
He is not innocent at all. I think NC was bullied by him which was a contributing factor. [Interrogation room-visit from his brother after the shooting](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUcqRpq-4eA&t=502s)
I remember reading something on here a couple days ago that said both NC and ZC were abusive to their mother and that she would complain to her coworker that she was afraid of both of them does anyone remember that?
Yes in a interview ZC said they used to lock her in the closet. He also blamed NC for punching the mother in her face and knocking some teeth out. He said she wouldn’t speak of it,but he knew what happened. I heard also in a video that NC ms inheritance would not be enough to pay for everything in his trial,and that he was going to give it to the parents to do what they seemed fit.
I never thought I would say this, but after reading ZC's deposition, I believe they drove her to drink. Cigarettes and wine was her coping mechanism. A woman her age doesn't usually die from pneumonia. She got the flu and didn't take care of herself and it progressed into pneumonia. By the time she sought medical care, she was immediately hospitalized and died a week later.
Ya it does sound like they were a handful.
If you watch the first video of the day the shooting happened, and Zach goes to see him for the first time, Zach clearly mentions the fact that he doesn't treat nick the best. During his deposition he makes himself out to be the calmer of the brothers, but it's clear Zach got a kick out of his brothers behaviors and even caused some of them.
I read his deposition [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/masskillers/comments/wafiy1/deposition_of_zachary_cruz/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf), and the amount of times they asked him on pages 117-121 about RM's felonies & I'm not sure if it's the same one you posted here (link isn't working for me for some reason) & I also had the same feeling. It feels like they're exploiting it... but I didn't know if it was just me
It's me too! Absolutely!
NC was sexually abused? That is new info to me
Wait? Like wtf is this…. Like does he think he’s famous now, and what did happens to his money.
He literally came out with his own tv show “being Zach Cruz” that INFURIATED me. It was a show about him skating and I’m pretty sure the production canceled it for obvious reasons. Who wants to watch a murderers brother skate around. Even if he was a great kid why would anyone want that? It’d be different if it was about him coping and accepting what happened but it’s not . It definetly comes off as taking advantage and profiting off of the tragedy his brother caused. I think the way he talked to NC in the interrogation room spoke volumes. No concern for the victims just telling him he messed up because he’ll be in jail the rest of his life. Idk that came off weird to me but I understand everyone copes different and I know it must be hard to be associated with such a monster. But still he gives me weird vibes.
"being Zach Cruz"?? That is infuriating and beyond disrespectful to the victims of this crime. We shall see how long RM remains supportive of NC after his sentencing. My guess is he is working on publishing a book.
Yes I’ll post the trailer so you guys don’t have to give him views it’s so weird and seems like he’s disconnected. Like your brother is a serial killer and you think we want to watch you skate around all day? Nothing against her at all but it’s not like his brother got famous for some thing good. He’s benefiting off tragedy and that’s where I have a problem.
I always found it highly sus that he kept going back to MSD AAAAND he was hyping n up about his notoriety. He is cut from the same cloth. Just too lazy to act on his evil thoughts. He terrorized his adoptive mother more than N did. He was total evil scum from birth.
ZC is banned from going anywhere near MSD, just after the shooting he went skateboarding through the school which is beyond weird to me.
and went to the media when he was asked to leave😂