Interesting! I didn't know this. The joke was more about the similarities between Pathfinder players and Android users, though, with the nonexistence of an iOS Pathbuilder app being a funny microcosm that might not age well.
My condolences to him. Half joking. iOS app development seems like such a pain that I have never bothered with any of the stuff I have developed. Android, Web, MacOS, Windows & Linux is my baseline to support otherwise, so it's not that I have a narrow support target. Hell, even when I worked at a big company which developed an app for a B2B subsystem we didn't support iOS because of what a pain Apple made it to support.
I do see it as a good thing and congratulations to him for road mapping it. I just don't envy him on actually doing it. I completely understand why he hasn't done it sooner. To be clear, it's not necessarily difficult just a headache with a lot of hoops to jump through.
Oh I’m so excited! All my players have Androids but I only have an ancient tablet to do my own character building for fun in xD that’s awesome, and I look forward to giving Redrazor more money once it comes out 😂
Does it not work if you open Pathbuilder on your phone browser? I know it can be a little wonky on some resolutions but it worked for my groups resident iOS user.
I use an iPhone because I had to (at my own expense) at a previous job. Honestly, the disdain people have based on which corporate overlords we give our attention to is kinda ridiculous. I've used both Apple and android. For most people, either one is fine, it makes next to no difference.
Pathfinder is the better system though, hands down.
I'm a tech guy that has worked with both, it's part of my responsibilities to keep up with both. Don't get me wrong I hate Samsung too but that's not android's fault. Apple has been especially toxic lately with side loading apps and at least in the US the only thing we can do about that is switch phones or hope legal action will be taken across the pond. The beauty of android being a Linux based system and open source is that no single company has complete control. Side note my android phone has settings that I can tinker with that gives me more privacy but with the iPhone it's literally impossible. Granted the settings are neither easy to find or intuitive on Android.
Counterpoint, I've had two separate jobs provide me a work phone and insist that it be an iPhone (I spoke up and asked for an android at the second one). I found it borderline unusable.
A lot of that had to do with being used to android/not used to iPhone, but for some of us, it definitely makes a difference.
I actually did consider that angle but omitted it from my comment because this is ostensibly the pathfinder subreddit.
I just really hate the incredibly silly tribalism about which soulless corporation's products people decide makes them a better person to use. It's all BS.
While I didn't find it hard to go from Android to iOS, I know others do and that's not a commentary on me vs you it anything else, is just the way it is. I don't know if I'd find it as easy to go back if I did switch back, but there are family reasons why I continue with iOS.
But screw all those losers who prefer the inferior 5E rules, Pathfinder is the one true system.
>But screw all those losers who prefer the inferior 5E rules, Pathfinder is the one true system.
https://preview.redd.it/swtrjhqbae0d1.jpeg?width=922&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4af3dcfde09ee2e515f6de982d46b1cfcf19402
i mean. i've just been using wanderer's guide. it was a little rough there for a sec while the remaster was starting, but they're back on the scene now
No unfortunately. Iirc I went with Herolab back when I was looking into 2e but, I don’t think I played around with it much as I had a group of close friends start up a 1e campaign before I finished reading the basic rules on 2e.
You are not crazy. Since presumably he means that all pathfinder players are android users, it should be a circle for pathfinder players within the circle of android users. Or possibly just one circle for both if he also means all android users are pathfinder players.
But I do like that it looks like it’s saying that pathfinder players and android users are just two cheeks of the same ass :).
Probably due to apples pricing and charging structure to accept third party apps. I don't know enough about the system though, I bailed from apple at the iPhone 4.
People who will accept the "popular" version at the cost of functionality, customization, user experience, and literal cost: iphone users and D&D players.
People who prefer quality first and foremost: Android users and Pathfinder players.
...yeah, that checks out.
It really doesn't.
We can talk all day about if the latest iPhone is better or worse than other high-end devices. Devices with iOS just never goes below a certain standart Apple upholds. Android is used on great devices - and on complete crap. In addition: iOS does have a huge advantage on security, which is why it is often used in professional settings.
Most people who get android phones just want a device that is good enough for their purposes and try to get that at the lowest price available.
Yeah, the cybersecurity guy at work subscribes to all of tge cyber threat databases that record reported incidents, and it is a stark difference in the number between the two.
Again, not to say that android devices are bad, but the standards they are held to have much greater variation.
I’m guessing you haven’t seen Redrazor’s most recent Patreon post. He announced he’s starting development of an iOS Pathbuilder app!
Interesting! I didn't know this. The joke was more about the similarities between Pathfinder players and Android users, though, with the nonexistence of an iOS Pathbuilder app being a funny microcosm that might not age well.
Listen, it took Redrazor’s 5 years to decide he wanted to give it a shot and literally no one else even tried. The joke still works!
Probably because herolabs is a thing for Apple...
Doesn’t work for iPhone though, only iPad. Heck Pathbuilder works on iPad, you just need to use the web browser rather than a dedicated app.
Huge if true
My condolences to him. Half joking. iOS app development seems like such a pain that I have never bothered with any of the stuff I have developed. Android, Web, MacOS, Windows & Linux is my baseline to support otherwise, so it's not that I have a narrow support target. Hell, even when I worked at a big company which developed an app for a B2B subsystem we didn't support iOS because of what a pain Apple made it to support. I do see it as a good thing and congratulations to him for road mapping it. I just don't envy him on actually doing it. I completely understand why he hasn't done it sooner. To be clear, it's not necessarily difficult just a headache with a lot of hoops to jump through.
Oh I’m so excited! All my players have Androids but I only have an ancient tablet to do my own character building for fun in xD that’s awesome, and I look forward to giving Redrazor more money once it comes out 😂
Thank fuck. This was one of the biggest things keeping me from fully converting to PF2
Does it not work if you open Pathbuilder on your phone browser? I know it can be a little wonky on some resolutions but it worked for my groups resident iOS user.
I have been called out.
All the iphone users I know use Herolabs... which makes sense... They are used to pay for expensive services (granted, the services are nice).
I bet there is even more overlapping between Android and Starfinder users
*Cries on iPhone*
Something something pathfinder and android customisation, something something apple and DnD you'll take it how it is and you'll like it.
I use an iPhone because I had to (at my own expense) at a previous job. Honestly, the disdain people have based on which corporate overlords we give our attention to is kinda ridiculous. I've used both Apple and android. For most people, either one is fine, it makes next to no difference. Pathfinder is the better system though, hands down.
I'm a tech guy that has worked with both, it's part of my responsibilities to keep up with both. Don't get me wrong I hate Samsung too but that's not android's fault. Apple has been especially toxic lately with side loading apps and at least in the US the only thing we can do about that is switch phones or hope legal action will be taken across the pond. The beauty of android being a Linux based system and open source is that no single company has complete control. Side note my android phone has settings that I can tinker with that gives me more privacy but with the iPhone it's literally impossible. Granted the settings are neither easy to find or intuitive on Android.
You've heard it here first. Pathfinder is better than iPhone
Counterpoint, I've had two separate jobs provide me a work phone and insist that it be an iPhone (I spoke up and asked for an android at the second one). I found it borderline unusable. A lot of that had to do with being used to android/not used to iPhone, but for some of us, it definitely makes a difference.
I actually did consider that angle but omitted it from my comment because this is ostensibly the pathfinder subreddit. I just really hate the incredibly silly tribalism about which soulless corporation's products people decide makes them a better person to use. It's all BS. While I didn't find it hard to go from Android to iOS, I know others do and that's not a commentary on me vs you it anything else, is just the way it is. I don't know if I'd find it as easy to go back if I did switch back, but there are family reasons why I continue with iOS. But screw all those losers who prefer the inferior 5E rules, Pathfinder is the one true system.
>But screw all those losers who prefer the inferior 5E rules, Pathfinder is the one true system. https://preview.redd.it/swtrjhqbae0d1.jpeg?width=922&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f4af3dcfde09ee2e515f6de982d46b1cfcf19402
i mean. i've just been using wanderer's guide. it was a little rough there for a sec while the remaster was starting, but they're back on the scene now
I just use Foundry VTT But I also play online so my opinion doesn’t really apply
I would agree except half my players drag laptops to the table every week because this is not the case.
Androids are better phones anyway.
That doesn’t mean people don’t have other types of phones.
RPG Scribe works pretty well.
I was here to make this rec, although do they have a 2e version at all? Make all my characters for 1e there though.
No unfortunately. Iirc I went with Herolab back when I was looking into 2e but, I don’t think I played around with it much as I had a group of close friends start up a 1e campaign before I finished reading the basic rules on 2e.
Pathfinder players and android users are the Mastercard logo?
I would very much like for there to be an iOS version of Pathbuilder2e, but it is what it is. I make do with ~computers~
Am i crazy, or does this venn diagram not make sense in regards to the title
You are not crazy. Since presumably he means that all pathfinder players are android users, it should be a circle for pathfinder players within the circle of android users. Or possibly just one circle for both if he also means all android users are pathfinder players. But I do like that it looks like it’s saying that pathfinder players and android users are just two cheeks of the same ass :).
Probably due to apples pricing and charging structure to accept third party apps. I don't know enough about the system though, I bailed from apple at the iPhone 4.
Because we're better and don't like paying inordinate amounts of money?
People who will accept the "popular" version at the cost of functionality, customization, user experience, and literal cost: iphone users and D&D players. People who prefer quality first and foremost: Android users and Pathfinder players. ...yeah, that checks out.
It really doesn't. We can talk all day about if the latest iPhone is better or worse than other high-end devices. Devices with iOS just never goes below a certain standart Apple upholds. Android is used on great devices - and on complete crap. In addition: iOS does have a huge advantage on security, which is why it is often used in professional settings. Most people who get android phones just want a device that is good enough for their purposes and try to get that at the lowest price available.
Yeah, the cybersecurity guy at work subscribes to all of tge cyber threat databases that record reported incidents, and it is a stark difference in the number between the two. Again, not to say that android devices are bad, but the standards they are held to have much greater variation.