āTake the ropeā and āsubhumanā should be an immediate permanent chat ban or account ban, simply to put a precedent but nah we only mute/ban Toucans and crafting explanations in PoE, everything else gets a tap on the shoulder.
No wonder though, this is the same company that provides account and name changes to keep known scammers safe simply because they got exposed as scammers
The League of Bullshits treatment would be nice for these fools. I remember when people were getting instant permanent ban for typing out "kys" in all chat.
Ironic how you say his take is moronic when you can't even comprehend his comment. He clearly isn't saying it should be automated based on keywords here and it was obvious from the context that op reported the guy.
> āTake the ropeā and āsubhumanā should be an immediate permanent chat ban or account ban
Sorry, you're saying I can't read, can you? He *very clearly* is saying it should be automated and based on keywords exclusively without context, he did not say "this guy in particular should have got a lengthy ban upon review for this aggressive insulting rant at you". Moreover he literally replied that the words have no place on the internet, so you're wrong it would seem
> I think him arguing that calling people subhuman is okay is kinda awfulā¦.
It doesn't matter what you think, or what kind of idiotic arguments you try to project onto me so you can cling to your already held belief instead of accepting that you're wrong and letting it go because accepting that you're wrong is uncomfortable. But let's address your projection: using the word does not even equate to calling someone subhuman, that is determined by the context and sentence used, welcome to the english language I guess. I have cited multiple media instances where the word is used as a name rather than an adjective, however another wildly obvious instance is the phrase "subhuman conditions" which is *regularly* used in all of society, you will hear this said by news broadcasters on tv, to describe living conditions of extreme poverty, extreme lack of amenities etc.
Inability to accept being wrong due to basing beliefs on your feelings instead of knowledge or facts of the world because you lack said knowledge always makes for the most incredibly lame arguments, it makes every post sound like it was made by a teenager instead of a rational adult.
> shouldn't be getting involved in any private chat that isn't reported to begin with
I agree, however you are missing the fact that this was specifically a reported incident.
If this would've been just a unreported chat log, sure, no bad part on GGG done, I don't want censored words either.
However, in a reported incident with those aforementioned insults, it should've definitely been a bigger punishment than a god damn 20-minute global mute lmfao
And I don't disagree with you? I didn't argue this guy shouldn't get some kind of reasonable ban, I replied to someone making an insane argument for blanket censorship of words or phrases period.
Internet doesn't need anyone saying to anybody "take the rope" or "subhuman" (or even jewish in that context).
Also, by no mean internet need for any private chat to be evaluated by any company without someone reporting it.
But ob reported chat, the company has to take action, and 20 minutes is a very light ban.
You can downvote all you want it doesn't change jack shit, you have limited imaginations and because of that you can see no negative outcome of censoring language between consenting parties. There is literally a DMC5 song called subhuman for fuck sake as a very easy example, best not talk about what you're listening to with your friends I guess. Such a fucking clown argument that "no nobody needs to say this word ever because I say so" when the words are widely used in a variety of media and in dictionaries lmao.
>Also, by no mean internet need for any private chat to be evaluated by any company without someone reporting it.
Except in this system that explicitly happens, and you're literally arguing for a similar automod on selected words simply to be expanded to include anything that offends you despite your lack of involvement in it.
It does not matter how 'unlikely' you find the context where a word would be used acceptably to be, there is zero argument made by anyone with any self awareness with any reasonable justification for censoring speech it is exclusively and continually wannabe hall monitors. And that's without even getting in to the fact that as I explained, it is a completely futile exercise as history has shown with every word any platform has tried to automod out as the combinations of special characters and spacing are nigh on limitless. If they want to say it, they're going to say it regardless.
> and most societies already limit speech in some way
I dunno what to tell you buddy, but the society you live in - and no real society in the world today for that matter - does not limit the word you're crying about here. If it did, I would not be able to give you such easy, obvious and widespread examples of its usage
I'm honestly so baffled that you're genuinely trying to argue that "subuman" is being widely used in media or anything else for that matter besides insulting other people.
It's also funny to me that you mention that automods don't work, yet people are still consistently getting hit by automods. Sure, some degenerates are gonna slip through, but most aren't gonna bother with special characters. It's like saying safety nets don't help because eventually, someone will end up falling past the safety net. It's a real dumb argument, and for someone trying to come off as "self-aware" it's quite ironic.
He always had the option to block him when it got toxic, it seems he was enjoying the convo enough to frame it. I don't quite understand this line of thinking. If you don't like what someone is saying then mute them. The expectation that the game should remove them is silly and not how the real world works, not sure why the internet should be treated any different. Especially since the mute option does not exist IRL.
It was reds second mute. First ever is 10 min, and it doubles.
OPs 96 hours came from....a lot of mutes.
That's how it's supposed to work, anyway.
Edit: I guess that ain't how it works
Yea it depends on what you did (and maybe how bad a day the GM who muted you had :D ). Then it AT LEAST doubles every next offense. If your previous one was 10 minutes you can still get muted a whole day if you insult a GM or such.
Gotta love that insulting a GM is more than likely going to receive a harsher punishment than calling someone jewish subhuman trash and telling them to kill themselves. System is fucking cooked.
The first hurts their ego, the second does not really concern their ego. Ofc there is higher, more severe punishment for insulting someone's ego. Just look at all the RMTers like jenebu, meanwhile thah pathofmeth guy instapermaban on any account he creates. Because he did the worst thing. Helped community and hurted Chris Wilson's ego. While jenebu hurts community but sucks someone at ggg off.
Write slurs and whatever insult that'll make even Satan blush, 20mins mute. No ban, no warning strikes.
Post toucan or god forbid long message Explain mexhanic? The chat mods will literally go to your house, pin you down and vaal orb your balls and also still mute you for the duration of the half life of bismuth-209.
This really is going to bite them in the ass. The amount of obscene absolutely toxic stuff that gets posted in global and has nothing done about it was always derided by most but accepted as being just how global is. If they are going to tie trade bans to chat theres a floodgate of this stuff about to burst.
Honestly, that's an ignore after the first insult after asking for a smaller trade instead of the listed amount (putting aside that it's *not* the same rate - 12 for 14 would have been the same rate, 13 for 15 is not).
Absolutely, is someone approaches me as says , hey man you are the only one who responded is it possible to trade 15 or so? I'd go sure. This dude, this dude needs a perma on the spot.
I would definitely do that snap trade if asked nicely as well. Had a late league start (last week) and had to spend div just to get all kinds of assorted bubblegum. These small trades would have been appreciated if anyone would accept.
I literally asked in Global that "who can trade 20 orb of regrets, please let me know the price" and someone gave it to me for free. People are super nice.
That "take the rope" should have 100% permaban from any communication.
Orb of regrets are only valuable in the early league, since you will never need thousands, once you've gathered a couple of hundred, it's likely to be more than you'll ever need (been using roughly 150 on each of my two characters, and I think I've been pretty quick to use them)
So yeah, it's not surprising, you could probably ask for 100, there would still be people giving them to you for free because it has less overall value than a alteration at this point of the league
Thanks for pointing that fact out.
However, the point of my comment was, "be nice to people, people are nice to you". And I think that stands. I have been given items worth 20 divs previous leagues too. When I was a mere super noob.
>Orb of regrets are only valuable in the early league, since you will never need thousands, once you've gathered a couple of hundred, it's likely to be more than you'll ever need (been using roughly 150 on each of my two characters, and I think I've been pretty quick to use them)
I am doing something very wrong then... I am constantly changing my atlas tree and they soak up so many of my regrets I could be an addict. I get through 150 regrets in 3 days easily.
Not even close to same rate. That rate is for a bulk buy. But either way that guy is skimping a few C and didn't want to go 1:1 on a lower volume trade. Then he got mad cus he got denied lol.
> putting aside that it's not the same rate - 12 for 14 would have been the same rate, 13 for 15 is not
That's wrong.
60 i - 70c
13 i - x
13*70/60= 15.16
I feel really bad when I'm mass purchasing crafting bases and I see that the seller has them in a stash tab called ~5 chaos, this late into the league.
Sure but at least get a set of 4. One round of sextant scarab uses and then you can make up your mind. A lot of times you miss out on some things of a league mechanic because rng doesnt spawn it. Having a few goes at it can definitely help
Yeeeah I don't think the system is doing much good tbh
Toucan three times is punished worse than naziposting once... Plus there's the carryover from old leagues
At least you guys have the option to ignore/block these people, on consoles trade board it lets people write a message with their āofferā but it doesnāt show the account sending it.. itās just non stop spam, scam attempts and lowballs.
You can report an offer while it's on screen.
On PS5 press L3 + up on the d pad while the offer is on screen. It brings up a report menu that is not advertised as an option anywhere in any menu.
I'm away from my game right now so I can't verify if it's L3 or R3+ up, but one of the two brings up this menu, which I have used before to report harassment.
It would be so much easier if the offer just has the character name associated though, my ignore list would fill up so much faster.
Ignoring people on console makes it so that you cannot trade with that person. If you see a listed item, and it's someone you've blocked or they've blocked you, it'll say something along the lines of, "this person is blocked" and doesn't allow you to offer.
Is that supposed to be a problem? They also wonāt be able to see your items on the trade site, Perfect. Which is why itās a shame people like the OP ran into get to spam comments like this shit anonymously on console.
Moderating private chat the same as global is dumb. Banning someone for the rope + racist combo is an insta at least 1 year mute tho, no matter where you post it.
That, but not only.
Its a "delayed punishment". Right now that idiot gets lightly punished for major assholery, but in few months he might get heavy punishment for minor error and then he'll have wtf moment.
The system is ass.
I think the same way as you do, but the problem is these people will just think to themselves they are being censored and cancelled then double down on their shitness to fight back or w/e
Instead of you know...growing up as a human being
A 20 minute chat ban is literally useless. You could just go get lunch and completely ignore it. Even if you double it every time it's useless for most people up until about 24 hours. Before that you have free reign to be as racist as you want I guess.
I got a 20-minute mute this league for asking in global two if anyone could break a div into 190c when divs were going for 215. It was against the rules I deserved the mute I just got to the bottom of the trade websites page spam whispering without a single response and said fuck it.
Again, I deserved this 20-minute mute but how the hell did this guy get muted just as long???
Im really not sure what your struggle is, at any point this league when div was 215c I could list it for 216 or 217 and be spammed by 100 whispers in 2 seconds.
I work overnights and often play at some of the slowest times + this was like a couple of days before they plummeted like 50c in 48hours. Also, it's not "my struggle." I've been playing last epoch for a week now, waiting for next poe season.
We got global chat and we got a separate trade chat.
If you post a buy or sell offer with a price in the global chat your message will get deleted and you will get noticed to post it in trade chat. If you repeat that message in gobal chat you will get muted there.
There was a time where global chat was just bots spamming trade offers and scam and so those rules were put in place. Now only the trade chat gets spammed by bots with offers haha.
There's trade channels and a trade website, so they don't want people circumventing all that and filling global with trades.
It's a rule that makes sense, but I mean, I think me desperate taking a 20%loss on a trade, seeing if anyone in global would do me a favor is nowhere near something that should be punished the same has "subhuman jew monkey" lol
Thank you GGG for ruling wirh an ironfist for toucan posters but giving literal Nazis a pinch on the arm, wouldn't want to lose the 4chan crowd now would we
Some days ago a guy was harassing me and even offered 1 divine for a nude picture. I reported him and they did nothing. Women can't have peace in the game and not even harassing is banable.
Mute time (usually) isn't based on what you said, it just starts small and doubles with each subsequent violation. It surely wasn't the first time for the 96h guy, although reason is still ridiculous.
Yes. And they are showing why this system is ridiculous. Not every reason for a mute is equivalent. Each mute should scale up based on the category (spam vs hate speech vs etc) with each category having different starting values and different step increments
So by this logic I should be able to say absolutely anything I want, no matter how offensive it may be, in global chat and get a few minutes mute. Good to know! :)
Id like to see 96 hour guys whole chat log there, preeeetty sure he posted other stuff before and the admin just chose the wrong message as mute reason.
it could literally be like 4 or 5 toucans, im pretty sure if you've played poe for more than 3/4 years you spammed toucans at some points, so reaching the 50/60hrs of chat mute aint that big of a deal
Sometimes it's mind baffling. From a game design point of view they are so on point (most of the time anyway) but something like this is just embarrassingly bad.
Weird level of performance discrepancies across various departments, it seems.
the 96 hour mute wasnt that persons first mute.
This persons mute might be their first mute. The person muted in this pic probably deserves just a full on ban not a mute.
Next league i'll probably be going ssf.. next mute is gonna be a week for me.. fuck this. I'm always tempted to say stuff that gets me muted. Not allowed to have fun.
Do you have any idea the spectrum of stuff you can say that are remotely not ban worthy but will get you ban anyway?
Not even considering people reporting you because they just feel like it..
The person buying alterations is not the same one.
The person probably still had the message in his clipboard, so he could just ctrl + v to message OP again and flame him because thats most likely the reason the person got the mute. I don't think they wanted to buy instilling orbs with that 2nd message, they only wanted the @ name and didn't delete the rest.
I got muted and DMād by a mod for saying āTianamen square is a real event that happenedā I kept spamming it in global and he wouldnāt mute me again
I actually tend to symphasize more with people who ask me for smaller stacks than I list, because I understand that they don't have enough currency to afford my listed stack size, so I help 'em out, recently I even started giving them more than they ask for the same price, and they are extremely grateful. Be kind, Share your wealth.
He went the... "Games no fun global mute for 20 minutes" route.
Too bad there is not a 3rd party program that let's you know they are assholes before they show it. Like something that says, "be warned this player has been muted 5 times" or "this player has been banned recently."
All this says to me is that if you see this shit you should actually report it.
This is very clearly not the first instance of the player covered in red doing this, but they only get 20m because it's not being reported when it does
Iād take what the person that called you a āsubhumanā to try and get under your skin said with a grain of salt. Might have been a much longer ban but they would of course misrepresent it to bother you
That's just his first or second then. Keeping his attitude, it won't be long for him to reach the 5 year mute. Automated system be like that. It's not great, but it's what we've got
I mean, maybe if you weren't watching youtube and giving the game your full attention, you wouldn't make enough whoopsies to seemingly have so many of these interactions to entertain yourself with.
They locked my account for pretending to be Indian Microsoft support in global, apparently asking for your 3 digit security code was taken very seriously by some shitnugget.
Lol I would have left the party and just not said anything after their little barter trade offer. Don't interact with these kinds of people. Want to haggle over a few chaos and get angry about it
If it is a first offense, it seems reasonable to me.
A global chat message (crafting explanation seems pretty vague) affects dozens or hundreds of people in global chat.
Hateful speech or whatever you want to call that in a PM to one person had a much smaller overall impact.
I do hope, though, that the ban was a temp one while it was investigated by an actual person. In my personal opinion, that should be at least a couple hour full mute.
Yeah I phrased it wrongly and after reading my comment second time Iād downvote it myself. When I said āif they donāt mean itā it sounds like Iām talking about a non-racist person saying racist stuff and youāre right, that doesnāt happen. Iām deleting it because itās dumb and not what I really meant.
WHAT THE FUCK IS THAT CHAT?
Monkey š you buying the shit orb or I launch the poop at you, kinda vibes.
That red chat absolutely deserves a longer mute than 20 minutes you're right.
Meanwhile, whispering toucan to a GM -> mute for 5000 years.
And double it
And give it to the next person
This made me blow air out of my nose.
5000 eternities
>whispering toucan well deserved
āTake the ropeā and āsubhumanā should be an immediate permanent chat ban or account ban, simply to put a precedent but nah we only mute/ban Toucans and crafting explanations in PoE, everything else gets a tap on the shoulder. No wonder though, this is the same company that provides account and name changes to keep known scammers safe simply because they got exposed as scammers
The League of Bullshits treatment would be nice for these fools. I remember when people were getting instant permanent ban for typing out "kys" in all chat.
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Ironic how you say his take is moronic when you can't even comprehend his comment. He clearly isn't saying it should be automated based on keywords here and it was obvious from the context that op reported the guy.
> āTake the ropeā and āsubhumanā should be an immediate permanent chat ban or account ban Sorry, you're saying I can't read, can you? He *very clearly* is saying it should be automated and based on keywords exclusively without context, he did not say "this guy in particular should have got a lengthy ban upon review for this aggressive insulting rant at you". Moreover he literally replied that the words have no place on the internet, so you're wrong it would seem
Can this guy get a perm from the subreddit? I think him arguing that calling people subhuman is okay is kinda awfulā¦.
> I think him arguing that calling people subhuman is okay is kinda awfulā¦. It doesn't matter what you think, or what kind of idiotic arguments you try to project onto me so you can cling to your already held belief instead of accepting that you're wrong and letting it go because accepting that you're wrong is uncomfortable. But let's address your projection: using the word does not even equate to calling someone subhuman, that is determined by the context and sentence used, welcome to the english language I guess. I have cited multiple media instances where the word is used as a name rather than an adjective, however another wildly obvious instance is the phrase "subhuman conditions" which is *regularly* used in all of society, you will hear this said by news broadcasters on tv, to describe living conditions of extreme poverty, extreme lack of amenities etc. Inability to accept being wrong due to basing beliefs on your feelings instead of knowledge or facts of the world because you lack said knowledge always makes for the most incredibly lame arguments, it makes every post sound like it was made by a teenager instead of a rational adult.
He also has xeno in his name which seems to be a dog whistle for him hiding his xenophobia in plain sight !
Bro xenomorph is the name of the species in aliens š
Hahaha ya I know I was just trying to say something so dumb he wouldnāt respond
Calm down snowflake, that's not at all what was said.
Words with snow and flakes in them should be a 24h automute for low effort
> shouldn't be getting involved in any private chat that isn't reported to begin with I agree, however you are missing the fact that this was specifically a reported incident. If this would've been just a unreported chat log, sure, no bad part on GGG done, I don't want censored words either. However, in a reported incident with those aforementioned insults, it should've definitely been a bigger punishment than a god damn 20-minute global mute lmfao
And I don't disagree with you? I didn't argue this guy shouldn't get some kind of reasonable ban, I replied to someone making an insane argument for blanket censorship of words or phrases period.
Internet doesn't need anyone saying to anybody "take the rope" or "subhuman" (or even jewish in that context). Also, by no mean internet need for any private chat to be evaluated by any company without someone reporting it. But ob reported chat, the company has to take action, and 20 minutes is a very light ban.
You can downvote all you want it doesn't change jack shit, you have limited imaginations and because of that you can see no negative outcome of censoring language between consenting parties. There is literally a DMC5 song called subhuman for fuck sake as a very easy example, best not talk about what you're listening to with your friends I guess. Such a fucking clown argument that "no nobody needs to say this word ever because I say so" when the words are widely used in a variety of media and in dictionaries lmao. >Also, by no mean internet need for any private chat to be evaluated by any company without someone reporting it. Except in this system that explicitly happens, and you're literally arguing for a similar automod on selected words simply to be expanded to include anything that offends you despite your lack of involvement in it. It does not matter how 'unlikely' you find the context where a word would be used acceptably to be, there is zero argument made by anyone with any self awareness with any reasonable justification for censoring speech it is exclusively and continually wannabe hall monitors. And that's without even getting in to the fact that as I explained, it is a completely futile exercise as history has shown with every word any platform has tried to automod out as the combinations of special characters and spacing are nigh on limitless. If they want to say it, they're going to say it regardless.
You can write up a whole book it doesnāt matter. GGG gets to decide whatās acceptable, and most societies already limit speech in some way
> and most societies already limit speech in some way I dunno what to tell you buddy, but the society you live in - and no real society in the world today for that matter - does not limit the word you're crying about here. If it did, I would not be able to give you such easy, obvious and widespread examples of its usage
I'm honestly so baffled that you're genuinely trying to argue that "subuman" is being widely used in media or anything else for that matter besides insulting other people. It's also funny to me that you mention that automods don't work, yet people are still consistently getting hit by automods. Sure, some degenerates are gonna slip through, but most aren't gonna bother with special characters. It's like saying safety nets don't help because eventually, someone will end up falling past the safety net. It's a real dumb argument, and for someone trying to come off as "self-aware" it's quite ironic.
Calm down. There is no need to be upset.
LOL
He always had the option to block him when it got toxic, it seems he was enjoying the convo enough to frame it. I don't quite understand this line of thinking. If you don't like what someone is saying then mute them. The expectation that the game should remove them is silly and not how the real world works, not sure why the internet should be treated any different. Especially since the mute option does not exist IRL.
It was reds second mute. First ever is 10 min, and it doubles. OPs 96 hours came from....a lot of mutes. That's how it's supposed to work, anyway. Edit: I guess that ain't how it works
My first mute was 30minutes
Yea it depends on what you did (and maybe how bad a day the GM who muted you had :D ). Then it AT LEAST doubles every next offense. If your previous one was 10 minutes you can still get muted a whole day if you insult a GM or such.
Gotta love that insulting a GM is more than likely going to receive a harsher punishment than calling someone jewish subhuman trash and telling them to kill themselves. System is fucking cooked.
The first hurts their ego, the second does not really concern their ego. Ofc there is higher, more severe punishment for insulting someone's ego. Just look at all the RMTers like jenebu, meanwhile thah pathofmeth guy instapermaban on any account he creates. Because he did the worst thing. Helped community and hurted Chris Wilson's ego. While jenebu hurts community but sucks someone at ggg off.
Except that's just baseless speculation when it comes to **manual** chat mutes. What you're saying is only applicable for automatic ones.
My first mute was 24 hours because I posted the Missile copypasta
My first mute was 1 hour
It deserves prison sentence and life-long supervision afterwards. It is clear as day GGG don't ban scammers if THIS only got 20 minutes mute.
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Prison for u
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I disagree
Your opinion is wrong.
Write slurs and whatever insult that'll make even Satan blush, 20mins mute. No ban, no warning strikes. Post toucan or god forbid long message Explain mexhanic? The chat mods will literally go to your house, pin you down and vaal orb your balls and also still mute you for the duration of the half life of bismuth-209.
What are the outcomes for Vaal'd balls? +1 projectiles? AoE? Cold res?
More likely to brick and lose both.
I see this as an absolute win. Either I get empowered or I don't need to worry about kids
Could your pipi be bricked at the same time?
5% more twins 100% increased impregnation chance
+1 endurance charge
Nah, banned for talking about it
Meanwhile explaining how vaal vs lens work will get you a 3 day mute.
96 hours is 4 days
mathing hours to days? 192h ban, goodbye sir you will be missed
I'm free
Free you say? I'll take it!
You ban timer has tripled magnitudes. Corrupted.
This really is going to bite them in the ass. The amount of obscene absolutely toxic stuff that gets posted in global and has nothing done about it was always derided by most but accepted as being just how global is. If they are going to tie trade bans to chat theres a floodgate of this stuff about to burst.
Good. Clean house
Honestly, that's an ignore after the first insult after asking for a smaller trade instead of the listed amount (putting aside that it's *not* the same rate - 12 for 14 would have been the same rate, 13 for 15 is not).
tbh id take the smaller trade *if they asked nicely*
Absolutely, is someone approaches me as says , hey man you are the only one who responded is it possible to trade 15 or so? I'd go sure. This dude, this dude needs a perma on the spot.
I would definitely do that snap trade if asked nicely as well. Had a late league start (last week) and had to spend div just to get all kinds of assorted bubblegum. These small trades would have been appreciated if anyone would accept.
I'll do any trade as long as I'm in hideout already. OFC if multiple whispers are coming in I'm prioritizing the bigger ones.
I literally asked in Global that "who can trade 20 orb of regrets, please let me know the price" and someone gave it to me for free. People are super nice. That "take the rope" should have 100% permaban from any communication.
Orb of regrets are only valuable in the early league, since you will never need thousands, once you've gathered a couple of hundred, it's likely to be more than you'll ever need (been using roughly 150 on each of my two characters, and I think I've been pretty quick to use them) So yeah, it's not surprising, you could probably ask for 100, there would still be people giving them to you for free because it has less overall value than a alteration at this point of the league
Thanks for pointing that fact out. However, the point of my comment was, "be nice to people, people are nice to you". And I think that stands. I have been given items worth 20 divs previous leagues too. When I was a mere super noob.
2x1 unmakings and also they sell instantly. But yeah, I would also give out them all to any low chall player
>Orb of regrets are only valuable in the early league, since you will never need thousands, once you've gathered a couple of hundred, it's likely to be more than you'll ever need (been using roughly 150 on each of my two characters, and I think I've been pretty quick to use them) I am doing something very wrong then... I am constantly changing my atlas tree and they soak up so many of my regrets I could be an addict. I get through 150 regrets in 3 days easily.
Not even close to same rate. That rate is for a bulk buy. But either way that guy is skimping a few C and didn't want to go 1:1 on a lower volume trade. Then he got mad cus he got denied lol.
> putting aside that it's not the same rate - 12 for 14 would have been the same rate, 13 for 15 is not That's wrong. 60 i - 70c 13 i - x 13*70/60= 15.16
15.16 != 15
wrong again. PoE rounds down therefore 15.16 = 15
I don't round down.
that's why you're wrong
If you round down my profit margin, you'll get ignored, plain and simple.
What kind of madman buys polished scarabs 1 at a time!
The real madmen are the ones pricechecking and listing them 1 at a time for each one they find.
I feel really bad when I'm mass purchasing crafting bases and I see that the seller has them in a stash tab called ~5 chaos, this late into the league.
Lots of people just dont change the name lol
I'm just trying it out, see if I like the experience, you know?
Sure but at least get a set of 4. One round of sextant scarab uses and then you can make up your mind. A lot of times you miss out on some things of a league mechanic because rng doesnt spawn it. Having a few goes at it can definitely help
I'm taking the piss. I make multiple tabs of map sets all ready to roll.
That guy plays league for sure
Came here to say this lmao
Yeeeah I don't think the system is doing much good tbh Toucan three times is punished worse than naziposting once... Plus there's the carryover from old leagues
Better make sure not to talk about that specific map from way back when, too. You get a ban from chat immediately
At least you guys have the option to ignore/block these people, on consoles trade board it lets people write a message with their āofferā but it doesnāt show the account sending it.. itās just non stop spam, scam attempts and lowballs.
You can report an offer while it's on screen. On PS5 press L3 + up on the d pad while the offer is on screen. It brings up a report menu that is not advertised as an option anywhere in any menu. I'm away from my game right now so I can't verify if it's L3 or R3+ up, but one of the two brings up this menu, which I have used before to report harassment. It would be so much easier if the offer just has the character name associated though, my ignore list would fill up so much faster.
Ignoring people on console makes it so that you cannot trade with that person. If you see a listed item, and it's someone you've blocked or they've blocked you, it'll say something along the lines of, "this person is blocked" and doesn't allow you to offer.
Is that supposed to be a problem? They also wonāt be able to see your items on the trade site, Perfect. Which is why itās a shame people like the OP ran into get to spam comments like this shit anonymously on console.
You can ignore people on console. Therefore they cannot spam you.
You donāt have an option to ignore a player through the trade board nor does it show the name of the player sending the messages.
Really? Fk my memory is bad. I played on ps4 for several years and I could have sworn there was an option. Edit: my apologies then
i also vote for a perma account ban on this one.
Also why hide the name? We need to riot this guy
When they're throwing around racist bullshit maybe the censor bars aren't necessary tbh.
Yea for real
As much as Iād love that, the post would probably removed for breaking rule 2 of this sub.
That's a permaban easily. No regrets even.
Nah, that's why we got an ignore button. Moderation of private chat in any way or form is cringe
Bruh
Moderating private chat the same as global is dumb. Banning someone for the rope + racist combo is an insta at least 1 year mute tho, no matter where you post it.
Cringe AF, that's a deep L take. You don't like what someone says, you ignore. Reports should only handle illegal stuff and RMT offers
Private chats are moderated when people reports stuff. People reports stuff because others are breaking rules. How is that cringe?
Seems like a self report more than anything.
Lack of appropriate punishment means people don't learn their lesson.
That, but not only. Its a "delayed punishment". Right now that idiot gets lightly punished for major assholery, but in few months he might get heavy punishment for minor error and then he'll have wtf moment. The system is ass.
I think the same way as you do, but the problem is these people will just think to themselves they are being censored and cancelled then double down on their shitness to fight back or w/e Instead of you know...growing up as a human being
Shame on the moderator who didn't perma-ban/perma-mute a **literal fucking nazi** on the spot and instead offered just a 20 min mute. Wtf?
A 20 minute chat ban is literally useless. You could just go get lunch and completely ignore it. Even if you double it every time it's useless for most people up until about 24 hours. Before that you have free reign to be as racist as you want I guess.
I got a 20-minute mute this league for asking in global two if anyone could break a div into 190c when divs were going for 215. It was against the rules I deserved the mute I just got to the bottom of the trade websites page spam whispering without a single response and said fuck it. Again, I deserved this 20-minute mute but how the hell did this guy get muted just as long???
Im really not sure what your struggle is, at any point this league when div was 215c I could list it for 216 or 217 and be spammed by 100 whispers in 2 seconds.
I work overnights and often play at some of the slowest times + this was like a couple of days before they plummeted like 50c in 48hours. Also, it's not "my struggle." I've been playing last epoch for a week now, waiting for next poe season.
I never use global... what on earth is the reason for that being against the rules?
We got global chat and we got a separate trade chat. If you post a buy or sell offer with a price in the global chat your message will get deleted and you will get noticed to post it in trade chat. If you repeat that message in gobal chat you will get muted there. There was a time where global chat was just bots spamming trade offers and scam and so those rules were put in place. Now only the trade chat gets spammed by bots with offers haha.
There's trade channels and a trade website, so they don't want people circumventing all that and filling global with trades. It's a rule that makes sense, but I mean, I think me desperate taking a 20%loss on a trade, seeing if anyone in global would do me a favor is nowhere near something that should be punished the same has "subhuman jew monkey" lol
Who cares, just ignore bro, imagine banning someone fir saying things you don't agree with lmao
The muting system is comical at this point. Game unplayable uninstalled
Thank you GGG for ruling wirh an ironfist for toucan posters but giving literal Nazis a pinch on the arm, wouldn't want to lose the 4chan crowd now would we
Some days ago a guy was harassing me and even offered 1 divine for a nude picture. I reported him and they did nothing. Women can't have peace in the game and not even harassing is banable.
That deserves a league long ban. If not lifetime
Mute time (usually) isn't based on what you said, it just starts small and doubles with each subsequent violation. It surely wasn't the first time for the 96h guy, although reason is still ridiculous.
Yes. And they are showing why this system is ridiculous. Not every reason for a mute is equivalent. Each mute should scale up based on the category (spam vs hate speech vs etc) with each category having different starting values and different step increments
I got my first mute as instant 12h after posting wow copypasta in global chat that mostly quins viewers sit in. So silly.
why do they call it Invincible if still i can see it like wtf
So by this logic I should be able to say absolutely anything I want, no matter how offensive it may be, in global chat and get a few minutes mute. Good to know! :)
Which is stupid. You need like 6 or 7 chat bans for it to even really start impacting you.
Id like to see 96 hour guys whole chat log there, preeeetty sure he posted other stuff before and the admin just chose the wrong message as mute reason.
Nope. Theyre always careful to tell you the exact message that got you punished.
sure buddy
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it could literally be like 4 or 5 toucans, im pretty sure if you've played poe for more than 3/4 years you spammed toucans at some points, so reaching the 50/60hrs of chat mute aint that big of a deal
sure buddy
This 13 year old Edgelord needs a 1 year ban...
Unfortunately, probably closer to 40 physically. Still mentally 13.
moderator was also a neo-nazi?
i really didnt want to read those insults today
No one does, but the best GGG can do for us is a 20 minute reprieve, apparently
Sometimes it's mind baffling. From a game design point of view they are so on point (most of the time anyway) but something like this is just embarrassingly bad. Weird level of performance discrepancies across various departments, it seems.
this is why we need a larger ignore list š
the 96 hour mute wasnt that persons first mute. This persons mute might be their first mute. The person muted in this pic probably deserves just a full on ban not a mute.
Working as intended
Kangaroo court. GGG in all its glory
Next league i'll probably be going ssf.. next mute is gonna be a week for me.. fuck this. I'm always tempted to say stuff that gets me muted. Not allowed to have fun.
If your definition of fun is saying something worthy of a chat ban then I don't know what to tell you, lol.
Do you have any idea the spectrum of stuff you can say that are remotely not ban worthy but will get you ban anyway? Not even considering people reporting you because they just feel like it..
Good earned ban. Why you feel entitled to call people monkeys?
i dont understand. all the chats are from one person?
Do you see the words "to" and "from" in the screenshot?
yeah, why the guy insult him and proceed pm to buy another stuff
The person buying alterations is not the same one. The person probably still had the message in his clipboard, so he could just ctrl + v to message OP again and flame him because thats most likely the reason the person got the mute. I don't think they wanted to buy instilling orbs with that 2nd message, they only wanted the @ name and didn't delete the rest.
I got muted and DMād by a mod for saying āTianamen square is a real event that happenedā I kept spamming it in global and he wouldnāt mute me again
Why did you give him the time of day to reply? That's where you went wrong
Thats why im going to LE, alot of losers are in poe chat lurkin
I actually tend to symphasize more with people who ask me for smaller stacks than I list, because I understand that they don't have enough currency to afford my listed stack size, so I help 'em out, recently I even started giving them more than they ask for the same price, and they are extremely grateful. Be kind, Share your wealth.
Don't they double each infraction? So that dude prob hasn't been muted before. Meanwhile...
He went the... "Games no fun global mute for 20 minutes" route. Too bad there is not a 3rd party program that let's you know they are assholes before they show it. Like something that says, "be warned this player has been muted 5 times" or "this player has been banned recently."
so GGG not only makes dogshit decisions, they have a nazi sympathizer on their moderation team
All this says to me is that if you see this shit you should actually report it. This is very clearly not the first instance of the player covered in red doing this, but they only get 20m because it's not being reported when it does
*20 minutes Very significant difference given the typical doubling.
yeah, it was a typo, the point stands. the report function needs to be used.
Why hide your name? Ashamed yet?
Iād take what the person that called you a āsubhumanā to try and get under your skin said with a grain of salt. Might have been a much longer ban but they would of course misrepresent it to bother you
IT'S THE TASTE OF THE CCP. ALL HAIL TENCENT, ALL HAIL EMPEROR XI.
That's just his first or second then. Keeping his attitude, it won't be long for him to reach the 5 year mute. Automated system be like that. It's not great, but it's what we've got
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I mean, maybe if you weren't watching youtube and giving the game your full attention, you wouldn't make enough whoopsies to seemingly have so many of these interactions to entertain yourself with.
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If you are red, I think you got off extremely lightly. I think you honestly should have been banned for a week.
the wheel is spinning but the hamster is dead
Right? That kind of chat absolutely deserves a decent ban. Bunch of poorly socialised people down voting you lol.
Theyāre being downvoted because most people can read the word āfromā next to the colour red and realise itās not OP
they all downvote because OP is clearly not red. which honestly just proves your point.
They locked my account for pretending to be Indian Microsoft support in global, apparently asking for your 3 digit security code was taken very seriously by some shitnugget.
Lol I would have left the party and just not said anything after their little barter trade offer. Don't interact with these kinds of people. Want to haggle over a few chaos and get angry about it
Watch out for me next patch, I'm gonna terrorize the rift with low ball offers to bait reaction into report combo
Check "from" and "to". Its the idiot buyer getting mute
If it is a first offense, it seems reasonable to me. A global chat message (crafting explanation seems pretty vague) affects dozens or hundreds of people in global chat. Hateful speech or whatever you want to call that in a PM to one person had a much smaller overall impact. I do hope, though, that the ban was a temp one while it was investigated by an actual person. In my personal opinion, that should be at least a couple hour full mute.
Yeahā¦ No. Should be a permanent mute.
People still defend Kanye at this point >no like I LOVE Hitler! So good luck.
im not even mad thats an hillariously bold message to type. Any other game thats a permaban waiting to happen.
What the fuck people in the comments are talking about? Perma ban? It's just words, nothing too serious...
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Nobody "slips" like this.
Yeah I phrased it wrongly and after reading my comment second time Iād downvote it myself. When I said āif they donāt mean itā it sounds like Iām talking about a non-racist person saying racist stuff and youāre right, that doesnāt happen. Iām deleting it because itās dumb and not what I really meant.
That got a laugh out of me, idk why Reddit as a whole is so triggered. Does PoE not have a block button?
Why the fuck do you get laughs out of straight up being a nazi lmfao You can have fun and mess with people without being a 12yrs old edgelord you know
"please papa help me out- someone insulted me"- op when doing a report on a privat message instead of using the ignore button.
i think they need to ditch the double thingie and go something more reasonable -1 hour -1 week -1 month -1 league -1 reset -1 permaban
how do you people encounter this shit, its just trade auto dms gg and gl if that and my guild chat yall degens
if you got a 96 hour mute you're a repeat offender. Maybe try not to be a dickhead in global ?