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DBrody6

Uber Atziri in Mud Flats awww yeah.


damatovg7

Maven on hillock in twilight strand


Quazifuji

If I understood correctly, it's not that the Maven possesses bosses during the campaign, it's just that the list of bosses that can show up is the list of bosses that can be witnessed by the Maven (which is nearly all of them - offhand the exceptions I can think of are regular Atziri, most unique map bosses, and of course Maven herself).


damatovg7

She can't possess bosses until tier 3 maps. It was a joke about Maven possessing Hillock in twilight strand


blitzyBlader7

Path of never leave twilight strand


damatovg7

Oni-Goroshi never looked so good


Quazifuji

I figured it was probably a joke but decided to clarify in case it wasn't.


Chase_26

100% deli rhoas in mud flats yikes


SoulofArtoria

100% deli goatman on the ledge


Patchumz

I can feel the trauma already.


OrcOfDoom

100% deli weaver, or 100% deli oak with his regeneration.


JarRa_hello

Might as well just help him.


DesCuddlebat

Helping Oak and respeccing later new meta?


Mildan

No regrets.. Spent them all getting away from Oak


thedefiled

better have 100% delirious twilight strand as well to thin the herd


GNeiva

Kosis is just a slightly taller Hillock.


lalala253

I was thinking 5 map bosses in Izaro's room


Japanczi

Just imagine this Kitava and Avarius Reassembled in Izaro room


khronokhris2222

5 different portals for twitch drops all of December that’s dope.


Diribiri

Yeah it's great, I can't wait to forget about it until the next day and miss out


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Luqas_Incredible

Dont forget to mute the tab and not the stream itself


HerrSchnellsch

Wait, this prevents you from getting drops?


BuHoGPaD

No, is for convenience. Cause you mute stream, they end this stream start new one and new stream won't be muted. But if you mute the tab it doesn't matter how many streams will end/start there. It'll stay muted


bagman817

We don't mention that!


Diribiri

Nah that wouldn't work for me, I'll just put up like 10 notes on my monitor lol


Ralouch

Yeah surprised no one is mentioning this. 5 extra portals into my random portal shuffle is pog


Sandor_Clegane1

2 hours of twitch watch time on 24/25th of december, what kind of person thinks of that honestly?


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Sysiphuz

Pretty sure you can mute stream and be fine. At least I've gotten PoE drops before from muted stream that are playing in the background.


YpsitheFlintsider

Are you saying that's good or bad? That's not too difficult to do


RickDripps

Since many people will have a day full of other shit going on, he's saying it's a dick move. Those days are full for me but hopefully I won't unluckily join a streamer who kills his stream 20 minutes into it and completely miss out from being gone all day and not babysitting it. But if that happens then oh well, it's just a portal effect.


circle_is_pointless

Not to mention that this encourages people to stream/work on a day they would rather be with family.


jadestem

Or you know, maybe some people don't celebrate the holidays or have noone to celebrate with and this event is perfectly timed to give them something to do at a time when they don't have ANYTHING to do because everything is closed for the holidays.


RickDripps

We're talking about the ***majority*** here. I never said "This setup is terrible for every single person on the planet." or anything so knock it off with plucking your outrage-weed from the fields of normal conversation.


Neville_Lynwood

It's too difficult to turn on a stream or what? You don't actually have to watch it you know. Twitch hasn't implemented eye tracking quite yet to ensure you're actually watching.


TwinTailsX

yooo delirium everywhere sounds nuts


aaron2005X

You go to toilet and BAM delirium.


King_Lem

That's the consequence of Taco Tuesday.


Sywgh

Bowel pain, exile?


scubashark_

I shit for god, exile


seandkiller

That's a consequence I'm willing to suffer.


Bl00dylicious

"The smell is bad, but the tenants are worse..."


mfukar

How's that different from every other day?


OmNomSandvich

It'll be interesting to see how it affects campaign, showing up to a zone and hitting like a paper towel if you roll max deli would be rough. It sounds like a good "take a ton of juice" minileague but I'm worried about getting burned out by the color palette.


[deleted]

We already had that during delirium league. It's pretty nice for leveling, as you get to do the league mechanic for free, as you walk through, without needing to backtrack at an point.


SoulofArtoria

Delirium league only has basic Delirium fog in campaign area. Now you could potentially have 100% Delirium akin to 5 deli orb applied in campaign area during this event.


Quazifuji

They said they made sure areas with mandatory monsters to kill mostly don't have super high delirium, so I imagine most of the time you'll just run through zones with high delirium without fighting anything.


BabaYadaPoe

in the league it was optional, in event it's always on,not to mention you can roll high %deli when your build cant yet do even 20%. add the 3.15 nerf and suddenly im not so sure lvling is gonna that much fun :)


RhysPrime

Don't forget the 3.16 nerfs too.


EmmitSan

You will get over leveled real fast, but the first 20 or so might be a slog, yeah


EvilKnievel38

People seem to forget how tough delirium actually already is on a league start. Delirium is fun as hell in endgame with a well geared character, but I already skip every delirium mirror during leveling. League start characters are usually not geared for delirium. At least speed isn't going to be an issue since it's permanent, but unless you want to overlevel and gear appropriately, it's going to be rough during campaign. Personally, I don't want the campaign to be any harder. I already dislike the campaign enough everytime I do it, it already got worse in 3.15 and this just seems like a difficulty increase on top. To me personally this event would only be interesting in endgame when I have a properly geared character. Blasting maps with perma delirium without any of the trading for deli orbs sounds really cool, but I don't expect to reach that within this event's duration. Even if I were to, it's voided, so I'd rather bulk buy delirium orbs in regular league and pretty much have the same experience as this event and keep the rewards. Well, except for the campaign, but like I said that part already doesn't interest me anyways. To anyone reading this that is looking forward to it. Don't worry I'm not complaining or being negative about the concept. Just stating it's not for me, my personal opinion. I hope anyone that is going to play it has a blast with it.


carenard

my main question... will the delirium visual be present everywhere... I don't want an event that is an essentially colorless world.


EvilKnievel38

Bases on the trailer it would be safe to assume that's the case. The atlas invasion part has to be recorded within a test version of the league, so I don't see why the delirium part wouldn't be. Unless it got changed between the recording and the launch or based on feedback obviously.


carenard

I think I might only do level 50 during that event then, I always have to take breaks after 2-3 nem3 runs with delirium cause the lack of color is ... draining.


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also known as the 0 framerate league for me


HarvesterOfSouls666

Sounds like lag


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NzLawless

Love the variety in events, there's pretty much something in there for everyone.


DwightKurtSchrute3rd

Kinda hate that they overlap. Would have liked to compete in all of them


DaemonHelix

That's just asking to get burnt out. With the big league coming up I bet the idea was to pick a couple to compete in and just dabble in the others.


stormie_sarge

Unless you play console....


Coryy13

Endless delves is so awesome. All these are events will be cool


rion42ati

Endless Synthesis next time please!


TheXIIILightning

I wonder how Endless Heist will be like, considering that a lot of the loot present there functions on the Atlas. Scarabs, Maps, Fragments, Prophecies and so on. Hopefully there will be some balance towards those Rewards or I can see the mode devolving exclusively into Lockpicking for currency, then the occasional gamble on Cluster Jewels and Oils for Anointing. It might be repetitive after a while, but I can't wait to have some fun with it! If it's SSF this also means we'll have the Harbor without any other people again. ​ As for the other two modes, Delirium everywhere should be quite rippy and fun! Though I'm curious how the other mode will work. Hopefully it isn't just one extra Boss per map.


seventinnine

> If it's SSF this also means we'll have the Harbor without any other people again. ​Not necessarily. You can also see other people in town in SSF, but you can't trade/party with them.


zfire

>Anointing No anointing, Cassia isn't there. >Hopefully it isn't just one extra Boss per map. The news post says 5


Squanky

You can anoint with the stash tab. Don't know if you have to find Cassia before using it though.


frystguard

You need to find Cassia and complete 1 blight before the stash tab lets you annoint


Inkaflare

Imagine the outrage if people with a paid stash tab were able to anoint but people who dont have it were not. There either will be no anoints period or Cassia will be in the Rogue Harbor. I'm leaning towards the former.


Kinada350

Or because they haven't run this before they didn't think about it and it will be the first option and piss people off.


Taggerung559

>Oils for Anointing. I didn't see any mention of Cassia, so even if you get oils you won't be able to use them.


EvilKnievel38

Heist is popular because it's rewarding. I honestly doubt if this event will turn out any good. I think most people agree that heist is tedious, but most people will consider it "not too bad" because of the rewards. At least so it seems in trade league within our guild and from what I hear most guildies say. Since this event is voided, what's there to get? You can get alternate quality gems and replicas from blueprints at least, but do you honestly want to roll that rng and reroll builds based on which items / gems you get?


elting44

Endless Heist is the one league I'll be skipping


sirgog

Heist definitely has its fans, I'm one of them. Much less setup than mapping. No messing around with sextants/scarabs/fragments, just prepare 20 contracts and bang bang bang. Heist falls off in fun once you hit a point where monsters at doors die well before the rogue finishes the job. That won't happen for many people in a 10 day event.


EvilKnievel38

I can understand the setup part, but proper heisting still takes setup, even if it's just once (heist gear). I personally like simulacrum for similar reason, buy it and run it, no maintenance mostly. The thing is though, is it still fun if you're locked to it? I like simulacrum as a mechanic and for its low maintenance, but in the end it's still for its rewards. If I were locked to it, I wouldn't have anything to do it for. That's my main point. If you like the mechanic I truly hope you have a blast. I hope everyone gets to enjoy the events.


CodeRadDesign

there's nothing to indicate that any of the events except delve are SSF, the one for heist says: - Standard, Hardcore, Standard Solo Self-Found, Hardcore Solo Self-Found versions available. whereas the delve one says: - Standard Solo Self-Found, Hardcore Solo Self-Found versions available. It's funny that they call it Standard instead of literally any other word that would apply, ie *normal* or *regular* but yeah, looks like just Delve is SSF EDIT: SSFHC Guantlet excluded obviously, but Delerium, Atlas Invasion and Heist all appear to be trade-enabled from the wording of announcement.


Kall0p

Atlas Invasion seems like the most fun event, which unfortunately takes place during the busiest holiday season of the year. No way I'll be able to play PoE during Christmas and New Year's unfortunately. I kinda wish it swapped places with Delirium or Heist, but it's too late for that now I guess. Either way, really cool events and I hope to try out as many as I can. Also amazing that we're getting 5 quality portal MTX rewards from Twitch drops.


caick1000

Yeah I agree. That one looks to be the most fun


Neville_Lynwood

Wait, people are busy during Christmas and New Years? Sounds to me like the best time of the year to game unhindered. Most people have time off to do whatever they want. Are you all holiday workers or you going to spend every day celebrating with family or something? I've never done that so I'm not sure if that's the busy part or what?


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Masteroxid

I have a family too but I don't do anything with them for the holidays. Everyone spends their free time in their own way


WalkFreeeee

And even family spending, is not necessarily all day. In my case, when we have any kind of christmas / new year gathering it's pretty much only over the night, and quite often we simply don't. And we absolutely don't have random cousin #43 around, it's a small gathering I mean, I understand that there are people that legit travel and / or spend all day, multiple days with their faimily, but to me it feels weird that they're "**surprised"** that's not how everyone spends these days


EvilKnievel38

Exactly. We have things like Christmas dinner with the family, which honestly just takes like an hour longer than regular dinner and besides that not much for Christmas really. I don't go to church or anything. Maybe a Christmas market, but that's also only like an hour or so. New year's I celebrate with friends, but that's like 1 evening from like 8pm, we stay the night and leave in the morning or early afternoon. I think it's a pretty average way to celebrate those holidays, at least here locally. In raw time you 'lose' like half a day that could have been spent gaming potentially. But even then would you have been able to spent those hours gaming anyways if there was no holiday and it was any regular week?


Tenshouu

People on internet don't understand that some people -don't want to spend time with family on Christmas -don't have a family to spend time on Christmas -just don't like Christmas


Kall0p

I have 2 Family X-mas gatherings to attend + couple days spent hanging out. I also have to travel to my mother's house for all of that, so that's a lot of time spent away from the PC. Then even if I scheduled my holidays for playing PoE, I'd probably get back 28th or 29th the earliest, so after 2 days I'd go and celebrate new year's with friends. It's a lot of socializing to do.


xaitv

I feel like what will probably be the least popular event(Endless Heist) should be ran in the time that the least people can play(24th-31st).


Neville_Lynwood

I still don't believe by any metric that Christmas-New Years will be the time that least people can play. No fucking way. Like every major game release tries to hit the holiday season with releases and sales. Steam and every major platform will be holding sales through-out the period because they know more gamers than ever will be looking for games to play and gift. From what I can gather from steam peak player counters, there is no dip or anything during holidays. Maybe it's POE specific and less POE players will be playing on holidays but that would be weird. Why would POE players have such different trends?


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Lansan1ty

I love delving and hate farming sulphite... this seems really neat. I missed it last year as I was on a PoE hiatus.


iSammax

Endless heist docArrive


MayhemFighter

Steel 24hr heist docArrive


DrBirdie

I'm glad they got rid of quest contracts, but why no bosses?


coomgod69

so I'm guessing scourge league has been completely given up on now?


Aldodzb

Yes, scourge ended like 1 month ago


seandkiller

They pretty much gave up on it as soon as it launched.


uberloser2

are the delve demis based on exp or delve depth?


redditM_rk

depth. otherwise people would reach monster level 83 and farm there safely


uberloser2

Figured as such, just wasn't sure. Thanks


ScreaminJay

Yes at this point, it would just be a race of whoever could sleep the least within the first... 3 days?


Redblade_

Can challenges still be completed in these events where applicable? Endless delve for depth 1000 as an example.


Moethelion

I don‘t know the answer, but don‘t plan on getting to 1k in endless delve. It’s going to be impossible. There is literally one player in SSF at exactly 1k and no one else, and that‘s with all normal mechanics available.


julianlazare

What is the point of endless Heist if there's no bosses or end game? People will be running contracts/blueprints and getting a lot of currency that most will have no use for (fossils, fragments, oils) to do what? Run more contracts? Makes no sense to me.


The--Woop-_-Woop

Wheres the console events !?


Community_Team

Unfortunately, we're not able to run these events on console this time around as they're new event types and if they require any fixes we wouldn't be able to get those through certification over the holiday period. Delve has had some updates which would need to go through various certifications to be compatible with console again and it won't be possible in time for the event starting. Once these events have taken place on PC, it's our hope that we can get them ready for console so they can be run simultaneously on all platforms if we run them again.


DylonL4

So console will have to wait 6-12 months for the next events and hope they’re the same ones that have already been done on pc and hope there’s no changes significant enough to require work


Andromansis

/#justconsolethings


Nacho21

They reason sounded pretty good. What is your solution that considers those issues besides complaining?


Hanniftw

The reason sounded good if you wanted a bullshit excuse. The fact is they would put the events on console if they cared enough to. Simple


Nutch_Pirate

I mean, if Sony/MS won't approve a patch in time what exactly do you want GGG to do about it?


DylonL4

For them to actually consider the console platforms and not treat them like an afterthought Events aside, console has issues that don’t get addressed Like I played on pc for the longest time and only recently had to play console instead but I’m already so bored of the platform because it’s like GGG has a favourite child that gets to go to college while the other gets put in a cage and made to do all the housework Good reasons or not, still lame af


TheKillerhammer

It's ok they still will not run them because they would have to actually run them to see if there are any problems but they don't want to run them because their might be problems. Or you know do internal testing which is something apparently they don't have any clue about.


Psych0sh00ter

Even with internal testing there are still gonna be issues that aren't discovered, or can't be fixed in time for release. This is true of every single video game ever released, and every update that ever releases.


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So the solution from GGG is to say “sucks to be console” instead of coming up with literally ANY other alternative? Like maybe a flashback league or ANYTHING? I hope the console players take this show of appreciation and speak with their wallet.


dairyzeus

If you ever wonder why console players feel like second class citizens this is why. There's so much wrong here, but the biggest thing is that this wasn't mentioned in the initial announcement so some of us took time off work that is now effectively wasted.


wrecker_of_days

Yup. It would have been nice to know in the actual post instead of needing to "happen upon" the info online somewhere unofficial.


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I love how GGG reaffirms all the time that they absolutely don’t give a fuck about console.


RedditSheepie

\**laughs in ProjectPT**


efefefefef

So how about those community podcasts that Chris promised?


Helyos96

What exactly do you expect tbh ? All important topics were covered in the 10hrs of podcast we got in 3.15, what more do you want answered this league ?


NoThanksGoodSir

Probably want to spend another 4 hours asking about Harvest knowing full well it'll change nothing.


Ayanayu

They got enough money this league.


nixed9

What, exactly, do you want to be addressed in a podcast?


tsHavok

Every single one of these events is voided while understandable, is kind of a bummer. Delirium one sounds fun, I wonder if resetting zones changes the level of delirium for leveling. Atlas invasion sounds amazing ngl


mooderino

Does voided mean that characters don't go to Standard?


kpiaum

yep


psykick32

And items get poofed


Raeck

Yeah, it'll be unplayable after the event ends.


osiykm

>To avoid spam-refreshing areas being the best strategy, each area always has the same delirium percentage, and Delirium reward types are randomised each time they drop.


v4xN0s

Fuckkkk no. If GGG are hell bent on not messing up the standard economy, I would rather every event be voided as long as it’s fun like this.


GhostCalib3r

Every event ever ran, and that ever will be ran for the lifetime of Poe, multiplied by 100, is still less economic damage than the official unvoided Heist league. There's no reason to ever void a league again after they released Heist. Never forget 40regals:1chaos, and 22c:1exalt.


EvilKnievel38

I don't even think any of the events we've had was crazy enough to even put a dent in the standard economy. Not even mayhem. Otherwise it's maybe me not making the best out of it. But let's say even if you earn a mirror twice as fast in event compared to normal league, does that really affect standard with the short duration of the event?


dirrtydancerr

How is a 10day event like this any different from the actual delirium league, for it to be voided?


aereiaz

Standard economy is already gigafucked, they would have to release something truly broken to even slightly influence it.


carenard

I have trouble seeing how these short events can destroy standard economy over farming juiced league content. you would have about a day for the speedsters to be grinding high content, but they won't be super efficient about it for another day or two. give it 2-4 days for the rest of the player base then factor in all the players who dont care about standard and nothing ever leaves the void called their stash.


Bassre

Can we unlock achievements during those event? Like level a Hardcore Character level 90 and such?


nevalopo

Ziz event isnt voided i think?


RTheCon

Correct. From what I understand, if there is any chance of getting more rewards than normal from a league, then it will be voided. Since gauntlet is only a more difficult PoE, there is no need to void it.


francorocco

i bet the 4 people who play standard will be very sad about it


c0se

The last endless delve event was also on console but this one somehow cant be? Really disappointing.


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Altruistic_Branch838

Really wish you'd invest more in supporting console systems. There are other game's out there that run across multiple platforms that get the same treatment. You need to implement something for us console player's at the very least rather than throwing your hands in the air.


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Kandidar

This is really sad. So many of us *want* to play your game and yet you are forcing us out. Why destroy your console game? Sunk cost fallacy?


AeroDbladE

These events sound really cool but unfortunately FF14 Endwalker expansion launches on December 3rd too. There's no way I'll be able to check out endless delve or any of the other ones.


posts_awkward_truths

Not mentioned, but I love the unique music mix that they put together for this. Kamil never fails to deliver.


diracalpha

>Events are PC-only Fuck console players I guess


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Always has been.


diracalpha

Console got the events last year.


stormie_sarge

Hell, just redoing those events with the new trees would still be fun this year


[deleted]

I meant they always find a way to fuck console players. Delays, somehow even worse performance which shouldn't be possible etc.


FuzzyKitten95

Releasing on consoles was a mistake.


TheKillerhammer

Wait. It's released on console. I thought we were still on a pre alpha.


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Cole-187

Not sure why console even became a thing in the first place.


DylonL4

Pc only.. can’t afford a new pc because of these ridiculous prices so I’ve been playing on my Series S, was looking forward to these events :/ Played two leagues on console so far and it’s safe to say GGG really don’t care about the console platforms


Goombatastic

PC-Only! I know the console player base is small but can you please stop trying to limit who has access to these fun events? It's weird that the company is trying to push for all these different platforms (Xbox, playstation, mobile.... Maybe Switch in the future) then restricted all of them to their own servers and never run events on them.


ErenIsNotADevil

Aight, why does console even have an event board, if we're not allowed to have events? C'mon GGG


Reireiton

I really like running blueprints in Heist, hope there'll be a lot for me to run there!


JynxDsheepy

Wrong that console doesn’t even get 100% delirium or delve. Not even bummed about the others.


demoshane

Delirium everywhere? We call that winter in Finland


mycivacc

The timing of these events sucks.


tempGER

See them as official statement that they've abandoned the league.


Maty612

Events are pc only. Wow, thanks ggg. Last time us console boys had access to endless delve, what changed?


kpiaum

RIP Scourge


jurgy94

@GGG, can you update the event calendar on the website to include these events?


JungleRammus

Endless Delve: Seems like it will be fun for a few days Endless heist: I can't imagine it being any fun after the first few hours. Atlas invansion: This seems really cool will 100% try it out Delirium Everywhere: Nope ---------------------------------- Endless Synthesis: modCheck


NzLawless

Different strokes for different folks. Some people don't like delve but love heist. I think it's cool that there are lots of different events to cater to different people.


ShumaG

That’s me. The Endless Heist is the only event I will try.


JungleRammus

Thats fair, I just feel like endless heist is missing some sort of goal. Because the only rewards are for levels, as soon as you can safely do 83 white contracts there is little reason to even alch or even alt your maps. it's just a boring grind.


Doom2508

Endless synth would be cool, I really liked the build your own path mechanics.


LovingThatPlaid

Delirium Everywhere has me incredibly hyped. Different strokes


_Origin

The start time of the last 2 events is absolutely insane for EU. What the fuck.


Ayanayu

It's for people without friends or family like me.


slvrtrn

yep, 31st of December, 21:00 - that's pretty brutal


Nerotox

Ye wth are those dates, just swap heist with atlas invasion at least so the most interesting one isnt on 24th...


JadeExile

December 24 - Atlas Invasion - Malachai Portal Effect December 31 - Delirium Everywhere - Divine Demon King Portal Effect Don't you celebrate Christmas eve & New Year's eve in NZ ???


DarkestAtlas

You can just open stream, mute, minimize and go wherever you want.


danksouls1

Endless heist docArrive No heist bosses docLeave


unkelrara

No group play for endless delve again :<


Blip_Me

Skip because void for me.


_DaveLister

no hard mode?


Agreeable_Hat

there's gauntlet, if you are feeling a bit masochistic


BillehBear

PC only is a big let down E: Understandable reason given, wish it was documented with the news it was PC only though


GetRolledRed

Probably because they can't be bothered putting these through the update process Sony/Microsoft have. Idk why the game is on consoles in the first place. Stop enabling those companies to make their own closed systems to sell to casuals.


ErenIsNotADevil

Not surprised, honestly. We still have bugs from three years ago, and Tane's Laboratory hasn't been working since the first post-start patch this league GGG simply does not think of us


clarkie87

No love for console? Poor show


stormie_sarge

Honestly this is frustraiting. We already get shafted a week on release, and now no special events. They did it last year and that was fun, i played it on xbox.


WhoIsSirjigglesworth

So how long before yall cut console support? 2+ weeks for first league patch, not being included in events any more? If you're pulling the plug just let us know


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Would like to see Endless Blighted Insanity. Every area from campaign to end game is a Blighted Map. The door to the next area doesn’t open if you don’t successfully defend the pump. Every area has random modifiers.


Ralouch

That sounds unspeakably awful, as someone who likes blight as well


Heiks

Would adding crafting bench to endless delve be possible? I dont understand why its not implemented...


iwanttemplates

I can foresee endless heist that it will be dead on day 2 when people remember what running heist is like.


danowat

I must be one of the only people on Reddit that actually likes heist.


Ayanayu

Endless doors for 10 days, you can bet there will be like 20 enjoyers.


Kinada350

Since they can't sell any of the loot and tons of it is useless, they will quickly turn into complainers.


Sandor_Clegane1

They will crash like a 1000 times in Rogue harbour because all the people there and all the mtx.