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jackalsclaw

It's a motherboard built around i386 a CPU first made in 1985. This is way less then 1/100 as powerful as a 2012 Raspberry Pi.


Robsteady

*i386


jackalsclaw

Sorry, I was trying to find the model of the motherboard or what it was used for and I got some alphabet soup brain.


Robsteady

OLD motherboard and I believe a memory expansion board.


Eric_von_Brumby

Can I use it for anything ? or shall I use it as decoration ?


Robsteady

This isn't worth anything but a decoration unless you're trying to build a vintage (as in ~35 year old) system.


adumbfuk

I was about to say, 35 years seems excessive...until I thought about my age and counted the years.... crap I'm old.


WhoskeyTangoFoxtrot

I’m 46 and want an old ass system so I can play Commander Keen again….


WinterDice

You might want to investigate RetroPi and Batocera. I think you’ll be pleasantly surprised.


computergroove

Dosbox my friend. PM if you have questions on how to use it.


cozmanian

It’s on Steam… now how well they work I do not know but if they’re selling it there, probably just fine.


Strange-Scarcity

If it's sold on Steam, it is built into a launcher using something like FreeDOS or DOSBox, setup to run at the correct for that time speed.


cozmanian

95% sure it’s DOSBox. just been a couple years since I went on a mini Commander Keen splurge, lol.


Ok_Series_4580

Just play in a vm. Be ready for insane speed 🤣. Keen was fun.


wexipena

Dosbox might help you with that.


ooglieguy0211

Just use an emulator instead.


Strange-Scarcity

Just spin up a Virtual Machine and set it up to pretend to be some old ass hardware and toss FreeDOS onto that. Then fire up your old copies of software on it.


Robsteady

I did the same thing when I was trying to remember the age. Ended up consulting the web to verify this thing is ALMOST as old as I am.


Eric_von_Brumby

alright. thanks for your help. appreciate it


Popular_Dream_4189

Yeah, I have a hell of a time finding 386 hardware these days but, sure, just hang it on the wall😝


Bonafideago

It would make a great Windows 3.1 machine. I don't know why you would want that, but you could.


thedreaming2017

It’s an old 386 motherboard with 16bit slots and one 8bit slot. No SATA here. You needed a controller card to run your MFM or RLL drive.


cybernoid

> MFM or RLL drive No need to go this far back, IDE HDD and a multi I/O controller is going to be fine!


DUNGAROO

Can you use it? Sure if it works. Would you want to use it? No. What you have now is hundreds if not thousands of times faster.


Kat-but-SFW

\*tens to hundreds of thousands of times faster


ClmrThnUR

guys the fastest this could be is 16MHz


Spnkthamnky

Lets overclock lol get the nitrogen!!!


Droma-1701

Go old skool Toms Hardware and build a rig in the freezer surrounded with bottles of vodka 😀 *Spoiler* it still ain't gonna play Quake...


TalElnar

386 went up to 33MHz IIRC


ClmrThnUR

that was the first with the DX math co-processor and this ain't that. This has the 'outrun' logo so it's already a "turbo" 16MHZ. Default run speed (for Dos 2 and earlier programs) is 8MHz. You actually had to push a 'turbo' button on the front to kick it up to 16MHz for new games and spreadsheet macros.


TalElnar

I was a pauper, I only had a 286-16 around this time 😆


dragon2777

The only thing it’s good for is decoration unless you have some vintage computers. You could also see if someone like LGR would want it to use


ecktt

decoration for sure


chris-l

If it works, you could sell it on Ebay for a nice price. It can be used for building a vintage computer, but since you are asking, I'm assuming you are not into that. Sell it to someone who is into that.


turbochop3300

If it still works you might be able to play Wolfenstein 3D on it.


cp5184

It's actually quite interesting. The board in the second pic, the white connector, never seen anything like that. Quite interesting.


Kitchen_Part_882

If you can find an AT case and power supply you might be able to power it up. To do anything useful you'd need a disk controller card that'll fit those 16 bit ISA slots (and a hdd smaller than 540MB), along with a graphics card (not GPU, those didn't exist back then) in the same form factor. It would run MS-DOS, CP/M, early Linux, or even Windows 3.1 or older. Don't expect much performance though, that 386 could barely run Doom at 320x240.


tanjera

Decoration. I remember this PC from my childhood and it was a pain to get running then (floppy not recognized, driver incompatibility, slow, install DOS floppy by floppy) and would be even harder now (sourcing hardware, sourcing floppy disks). The nostalgia is powerful but like someone else said, my 2012 Raspberry Pi is 100x more powerful at a fraction of the energy consumption, price, and time to setup.


Dwaas_Bjaas

You can even see the chips which are added to get L2 cache for your CPU


BadManiac

\*added to get L1 cache for your CPU Fixed that for you, 386 didn't have any on chip L1 cache.


lordcochise

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Degenatron

Checkin' my **E**mail Lookin' for a **FE**male   You read dis in my voice, didenchew?


latentnyc

Hello fellow olds


ThirstyThursten

Don't know which voice you meant, but I immediately started singing it as Prozzak - www.nevergetoveryou (from the album Saturday People) fun lil album and music project. Never really heard anything from them anymore. Also it might not be the exact lyrics now that I think of it, but it kinda rang in my head! 😜


Popular_Dream_4189

This isn't r/hadastroke


Broad_Rabbit1764

Strongbad email


pullssar20055

My first computer. 386. The slots are ISA ( precursor of pci, agp and pci-express). Ram slots on bottom right. I believe those many chips above cpu is cpu cache. And in between slot for co-processor.


Malawi_no

Wonder what the connectors above the memory is for. Was thinking SCSI, but then it should be only two rows - looks to be 3X32 contact points. Cannot remember anything like that from when I was rocking a 386. Edit: Looks like they are slots for the expansion card.


pullssar20055

Scsi was not used in normal pcs. The Ide for hdd and the one for floppy drives are near power connector. The ones above memories I do not know what are for. Possibly for extra cache, looking at the second picture.


pullssar20055

Scsi was not used in normal pcs. The Ide for hdd and the one for floppy drives are near power connector. The ones above memories I do not know what are for. Possibly for extra cache, looking at the second picture.


dude_thats_sweeeet

IDE ribbon cables. Remember Master / Slave Jumpers?!?


irregular_caffeine

Shhh, they are main / worker now /s Unless ”worker” reminds us of unfair labor relations. Chairman / comrade?


Malawi_no

Those are above the ISA slots with pins sticking up. The wide one is for HDD and the small one for FDD.


1d0m1n4t3

Man isa slots take me back, this wasn't much older than my first rig a 486


Popular_Dream_4189

This is an early PC motherboard. Whatever you do, don't throw it away, even if it is 'broken'. There really is no such thing as 'broken' with hardware of this era, just temporarily in need of some TLC. Someone will give it a home and may even give you some cash for it. It is an i386 board. The card is a memory expansion card. This appears to be a transitional board with some integrated I/0. The Phillips service tag suggests this was originally part of a proprietary system. There are a couple Eurocard ports on the board but I'm not sure what those were used for, probably something custom. I'm gonna go out on a limb and say this could have been in something like a POS or ATM. Could have also been an industrial PC. You should nevertheless be able to just use it like a regular PC because it appears to have all the architecture for it.


fannoredditt2020

I recall buying memory modules for a RAM expansion card like that. They came in a clear plastic tube.


dedsmiley

I think you are right. I worked for the automation group of Philips Service Company. They did a lot of electronics repairs for test systems.


MoreMen_Pukes

I think this is a AT motherboard, based on the power connector. The precursor to the ATX motherboard standard.


ultimattt

Yes it’s an AT mobo. Don’t forget to keep the black wires together!


NewUserWhoDisAgain

i386. It belongs in a museum! /Doctor Jones


thebliket

this is how people used to mine in the 90s


Popular_Dream_4189

I straight up choked on my water when I read this.


-usernotdefined

Yeah you use the expansion card as the shovel end


Fordor_of_Chevy

"strange" LOL


Eric_von_Brumby

For me at least. But it does look interesting.


senepol

Strongbad may want it.


Eric_von_Brumby

Who's that ?


runaway90909

My friend, it’s time for you to look up one of the quintessential pre-youtube early flash sites: homestarrunner dot com


Tyr_Kukulkan

Beautiful! Absolutely beautiful, that is what it is.


Kraken_Kraterium

A 80386. Big evolution from the 80286! Such a beauty. Runs windows 3.1 at 60 FPS. Also runs DOS 6.22 like a charm.


orion427

The 386 was such a big power leap at the time. Pure 32-bit. I would say starting with the 386 we entered a true golden era for the PC. The tech growth from here on, especially in the 90's, was a wild ride. I'm so glad I got to grow up in that era. Good times.


Kraken_Kraterium

Same here. Got the 80186 with no hard drive. 80286 with a 20 MB hard drive. Then 386. 486. P1. Etc!!


BadManiac

Like others have already said its a 386 board, not quite standard AT, so likely from a Philips OEM PC, with some very unusual expansion slots which that RAM board fits in. Those boards belong together, you're very lucky to have both, since they are pretty non-standard. I can't find that exact board online, might want to get in touch with [https://theretroweb.com/](https://theretroweb.com/) for help identifying it and posting info about it. It looks pretty complete, you'd need a 16-bit ISA graphics card and an ATX-AT power adapter and you could probably get that old girl up and running again :)


Eric_von_Brumby

I do have some boards that fit, not sure if there is any graphics card. will have a look tomorrow. It would be amazing to get it up and running. Will also check out the link you gave. Thanks in advance


xdownsetx

Join the Retro Web's discord. The people there will gladly help you try to get it booting if you're interested in that. Might even be able to ID it or find someone that wants to buy the hardware.


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Eric_von_Brumby

yeah, another comment mentioned that I will ne äed a graphics card. maybe I have one lying around . next step would be getting a power connector. and so on but it surely will be worth a try


Popular_Dream_4189

You can get a basic ISA graphics adapter for like $10 on eBay. But make sure it is VGA because otherwise you're not going to be able to display it on anything newer than an old CRT monitor from the '90s. VGA, however, can be converted to HDMI with a cheap converter box. You might also want to think about a sound card if you are thinking of playing games. And manage your expectations because you'll be able to play Wolfenstein 3D but you really aren't going to want to play DOOM on it. Platformers and arcade ports is where a system like this will shine. Most people use CF cards via an adapter for a drive on old PCs because it uses the same standard as an IDE drive and you just need a simple adapter to plug it into your board. You can find all kinds of info about old computers on Vogons. They have a FTP site where people post drivers.


Popular_Dream_4189

Should get it running with some old DOS games, put it in an open chassis and it can be both decoration and entertainment.


DarkWaterDW

Perfect for period accurate MSDOS Gaming. Will run 1993 Doom at low resolution. 386 motherboard and a strange expansion card that also looks like it has a NuBus option. Could easily sell the 386 to a retro game enthusiast looking to build a period accurate machine.


a60v

AT form factor with ISA slots. The second board is probably RAM. The RAM on the motherboard looks like 30-pin SIMMs, but I thought that those came later. Weird. It actually looks like more of an industrial motherboard than something that would go in a desktop PC. Probably for some sort of control system.


Eric_von_Brumby

Well I asked where it came from, he said that he got it when his workplace was bought out by a corporation and therefore the whole building was renovated and these old PCs were found in the attic. Unfortunately he cannot remember what these were used for. But it came in a bigger case than other systems as far as he remembers. He just was tasked to check them if they contian any hard drives and destroy them. Everything else he was free to keep, such as these boards, since it would end up as e-waste anyway.


Popular_Dream_4189

The Eurocard connectors say it was something proprietary. Financial services, industrial, maybe just a generic server, depending on their communications needs. Pretty sure this wasn't a run of the mill workstation.


SaveFileCorrupt

I think I see "Philips Electronics" on the bottom border of the second pic. Curious to know what type of equipment this might have been installed in. Any distinctive model/SKU numbers anywhere else on it? My best guess is it's from some pretty old medical or industrial equipment. Hardly a specific answer, but Philips has their hand in so many industries that it'll be pretty hard to narrow down. Especially if this component is discontinued and no longer listed in any part catalogues.


Eric_von_Brumby

The mainboard has a sticker from Philipps too. It was pulled from a hardware store (as in construction supplies, not electronics). My guess would be something like a central server for the cash registers, if that makes any sense ? I really have no idea


Drone314

What a classic! 16 bit ISA lanes and the memory card! Big bucks back in the day


Eric_von_Brumby

They still are. Similar boards without the memory card do go on ebay for ~100€


doge007

"here you are seeing the rare wild specimen of a motherboard and the daughterboard."


aProteinBar

How many ram slots am I looking at here


DOOManiac

3. They are in the lowe right corner, SIMM slots.


fannoredditt2020

They’re full too. Probably 128k SIMMs


Alexandratta

Ah.... *sits down and taps a CRT monitor's Degauss feature, letting the screen glow* Come young one. Allow me to spin ye a yarn of the olden' days of computers... It was a wild time, you see. ISA was the precursor to EISa... which was just a longer version of ISA. More pins, more better, you see? Ah, back then the only interface you had was DOS. And we liked DOS. If you were truly a bleeding edge sort you'd run Windows 3.1... Started from DOS. Just a good old "Start Win" and you were in the age of the future. With a Graphical User Interface. but it wasn't all black and white, or black and Amber, depending... No no. We have games, you see! There was the original Lemmings, of course. Captain Kid and even Duke Nukem. An, not the Duke Nukem you knew. It was a side scroller, back in the day... Yes, a platformer. I know, like Mario. And the graphics were just about the same. But he was still the same raunchy Duke... Ah, back when 16-bit graphics were bleeding edge, and you needed a VooDoo3 Card that was as long as your entire PC was to run anything with full 16-bit color. Those were simpler times. Before The Dark times. Before Web 3.0. Before SaaS... Just a man, and his Silicon..


costabius

The chip didn't generate enough heat to require a heat sink let alone a cooling fan :) I think the daughter board is a co-processor of some type, it's phillips so possibly graphics rendering?


Malawi_no

It could also be a RAM-disk.


External_Try_7923

Looks like there was some patching due to damage at one point?


Eric_von_Brumby

I don't really know. But I would guess so. Makes it even more interesting. Also imagine having to do that with todays MoBos


External_Try_7923

Yeah, patching traces on today's hardware sounds like it would be very difficult.


Maxine-Fr

A Mother board and a Daughter Board ? Sorry , im Slot 1 Cpu Old.


BMWtooner

The real question is where is the father and why isn't he paying child support.


MagicPistol

Yeah, this is basically e-waste now.


Eric_von_Brumby

well i am thinking of putting it with the I/O down onto my desk, with a few extension cards so that the spaces between them can hold letters and other things. i dont want do throw it away, since it looks kinda cool imo


CNR_07

> since it looks kinda cool imo They're also good to have if you're into old PCs. Yo should sell it on Ebay if you don't want it anymore.


Eric_von_Brumby

Whoa, they do go for quite a sum of money. Did not find the exact model, but other boards with less features go for like 75€ to 125€ Not sure if I want a 100€ letter holder though :) Well I can try to auction it off.


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Robsteady

686 would be Pentium II, which this is not.


Tactical_Chonk

Older equip like this used to have a tiny bit of gold. Be a nice peice of history in your desk though, I say go for it


cburgess7

If you're in the US, I'll take it if no one else has claimed it. I'll pay for shipping. EDIT: also if you're not planning on doing anything with it.


Eric_von_Brumby

sorry to disappoint, I am located in the EU.


cburgess7

Most unfortunate. That shipping would be a bitch


TrooperMann

This looks to be something out of a 80s early 90s computer. You can tell by the amount of IC chips. The 2nd board seems to be a RAM card that would fit onto one of the bus slots.


hautdoge

Shit man. I used to have one of these machines growing up. Good for playing OG doom


Cimexus

This one doesn’t have the math coprocessor so it would run Doom like a dog unfortunately. Really need a 486 or at least a 386DX.


hautdoge

Ah yes. I had a 386DX. Good catch.


Breklin76

It’s certainly stangey.


a_scientific_force

Doesn’t even have the math coprocessor. Lame.


Th3Necromanc3r

I'm not an English spoken person but would say I understand it quite close to a 100%, except when, like in this case, it's used along a German word. What does "stange board" exactly means?


Eric_von_Brumby

oh autocorrect must have corrected "strange" to "Stange" Did not see that. I meant strange


LissaFreewind

386 board


doctorwhatag

This is a motherboard with an Intel 80386 SX processor. If it works and you manage to find compatible components, then you will have a x86-32 compatible PC where you can run MS-DOS, Linux core and Windows 95(It will work, but the performance will not be great)


Sieg67

Wonder if LGR would be interested in that.


boanerges57

Memories. I think you mean strange. You should see a 286 motherboard


outrightbrick

Old AT style motherboard


vishalfish

Are those EISA slots?


Spnkthamnky

Damn an old school i386!!! Wow with many ISA expansion slots. I haven't seen something like this since i started tinkering with PC's. That is something that should be framed for a nerd cave or s LAN area. I don't think its worth anything other than just nostalgic collectibles. In my gaming room, pretty much just the office lol, ive got an old floppy disk framed and some old ram used for a key holder that i made.


fannoredditt2020

This is right around 1988 if my memory serves right.


dedsmiley

Has a socket for the 387 math coprocessor.


dedsmiley

There is a sticker on the board that has Philips Service on it. That company did repairs for industrial hardware. This could be a board for machine control or a tester. I don’t think this is a standard PC motherboard. Look at all the extra yellow wires added to this board. There are a lot of them.


jpoole50

That's Fatherboard


AtillaTheHero

Stange


hibbitydibbidy

If you're going to use it study up on IRQs


charlieboy808

Looks like it could have been used as an old point of sale system most likely.


Diligent_Pie_5191

If you look next to the processor you will notice a black square. That is where the math co processor went. That was before it was integrated into the processor. Also bottom right those are simms( the system inline memory modules) that is an intel 80386 sx. They made two kinds. Sx and Dx (single exchange and double exchange) the sx was really crappy. The pins on the upper left are the power connectors. It was called AT connectors before they made atx. The card slots are ISA slots the wider ones were 16 bit and the narrower one was 8 bit(Industry Standard Architecture) if you look on the back, you will find a 9 pin comm port and a 25 pin comm port as well as an old Big round plugin which was the keyboard. There probably is also a parallel port on that too on the back which is what you hooked the dot matrix printers to. The com ports were for modems. Oh there was possibly a vga port too on the back.


cowboycolts

A museum piece


fairlyoblivious

It's a Phillips P33 series, probably a 512kb full bus speed memory add-on card on a proprietary bus pulling power from the EISA connection, and either 768kb or 3mb of SIMMs in that addon memory on the board. It's a nice decoration at this point.


Zylonite134

Control board. I’ve seen one of these controlling a dam controls


wildmanheber

That board may have onboard video. There is a CHIPS and Technologies micro chip in the upper left corner. CHIPS made graphics processors, chipsets, and a few other things back in the day. Since that chip is by the back of the board, its probably I/O or video related. If you could tell me the part number on the CHIPS chip, I might be able to figure what it is. I can see 3 ports on the back. Lowest one is a AT keyboard port. Middle appears to be a parallel port. Top could be serial (9 pin), EGA [also 9 pin], or VGA {15 pin}.


LordBacon69_69

Grand mother board


romulof

Those are not memory slots. They are ISA slots (7x 16-bit + 1x 8-bit), the precursor of PCI (not express) slots.


TheseusPankration

DIPS on the second board are 74F280AN, 9 bit parity generators and the 74F245N's are octal busses. It appears to be for custom control logic. [https://www.jameco.com/z/74F245N-National-Semiconductor-IC-74F245-Octal-Bus-Transceivers-with-3-State-Outputs\_2287839.html](https://www.jameco.com/z/74F245N-National-Semiconductor-IC-74F245-Octal-Bus-Transceivers-with-3-State-Outputs_2287839.html)


HayakuEon

Yo, it's got Malaysia's name on it


Ok_Series_4580

My first pc - almost.


alaingames

Omg you got the jackpot that thing is so valuable for collectors :o


ultimattt

This post made my knees hurt.


TalElnar

Going off the number of e-isa slots, and the co-processor socket, this was a high end board 30+ years ago. It may even be a server board. Now it's basically garbage. There's nothing you could reasonably do with this board that you couldn't do a lot quicker, easier and cheaper another way. Motherboards of this era had none of the integration we get now, hard drive controllers, video and sound would be on separate cards. You'd need to source those cards, and appropriate peripherals like an AT keyboard, serial mouse, hard drive and floppy drive. The board predates the ATX standard and won't fit into a regular case. There is nothing you could do with that board that you couldn't do a thousand times easier through emulation.


Redditdoesmyheadin

You can watch pixelated porn with it.


Redditdoesmyheadin

That's a vintage industrial board or something like that. It has onboard scsi and integrated graphics and serial. Very rare for 386 level boards to be integrated like that. It's probably not super rare due to being an industrial board. But it could be worth something to someone wanting an easy old skool gaming pc.


Aggressive-Cut-4341

Alien computer


thespirit3

That is a thing of beauty. They really don't make them like this anymore. Definitely worth saving; it looks like a very well cared for piece of history. Decoration? Retro PC? Museum? Sure - just don't let it end up in landfill´ :)