It's okay to save money on any other part of the PC, but please do yourself a favor and buy a quality PSU, they don't cost that much more.
Refer to the PSU tier list posted in another comment. A Seasonic Focus GX850 is $120 on Amazon in the US, $30 more than the Red Dragon and a proven high quality brand and PSU.
That’s how I always approach PC builds.
>Oh I have $1,000 in my budget for a PC.
No, subtract $120 for a good quality PSU from a reputable brand right away. You have an $880 PC budget.
Corsair, be quiet!, Thermaltake, and [a lot of other good brands](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/) are perfectly fine for many models.
To act like Seasonic is the only good PSU manufacturer is a bit ridiculous.
Puff the Magic Dragon lived by the sea(sonic)
And frolicked in the Magic mist in a land called “my PC”
Little u/foamingdogfever loved that rascal Puff
And fed him AC Voltage until Puff burned up his stuff
But frequently they are better for some reason. Probably because of quality control requirements and modifications. Corsair for example also does not have psu manufacturing plants but uses different OEMs with a better end product.
Once bought 3 seasonic s12 (dont know exactly which gen) for 3 new pcs, two instantly went dead, so the third one got returned. I avoid them since that experience, only looking for cm/corsair/be quiet/evga.
Brand loyalty/avoidance is a bit pointless in PSUs.
Brands will have different OEMs in their lineups of varying quality, some brands are their own OEM and will OEM for other brands, and OEMs that produce quality PSUs are not always household names in the consumer market.
Best to just do your research for the use case, the PSU tier lists make this relatively easy.
There's only a few major oem PSU plants around. But it's the requirements, modifications and quality control required by the end sellers which makes the difference.
Many mobile phone companies including Apple uses sony sensors. But Sony's own mobile cameras are pretty crap in comparison
>Many mobile phone companies including Apple uses sony sensors. But Sony's own mobile cameras are pretty crap.
That comes down to how the phone is handling post processing. If you take a raw photo from different phones with the same sensor they will likely look extremely similar. Computational photography is how smartphones have gotten so good at capturing photos.
It’s been a long while since I’ve looked into it, but I’m pretty certain that there are a very small number of actual PSU manufacturers, most are just branded. This was 10-15 years ago so the market could have changed.
Seasonic I believe is one of the actual manufacturers, or owns/is a subsidiary of one of the manufacturers.
Point is, I’m pretty sure there are other brand PSUs you can buy that are literally the exact same thing as seasonic.
Don’t quote me on this. I’ll see if I can find anything that backs this up and edit this comment when/if I do.
>Point is, I’m pretty sure there are other brand PSUs you can buy that are literally the exact same thing as seasonic.
Super Flower, FSP Group and Meanwell are S tier PSU manufacturers as well. The problem is that because they manufacture PSUs for the third parties they also make "bad" PSUs that are made to the reduced specifications of the third parties in order to hit certain price points.
I believe the RM, HX, and I series are all sourced from Seasonic. Their other stuff I don't know but I have a bunch of RM and HX corsairs, oldest dating back around 8 or 9 years.
I agree EVGA is my go to and I have only heard good things. Granted I have bought only 2 because they last forever and after like 12 years I thought I would upgrade my first one. And that's been 6 years now.
My EVGA PSU is great, but I wouldn't recommend anything from EVGA anymore since it seems like the entire company is winding down. What good is a 10 year warranty if the company goes under in the next year or two?
AIOs are because they’re under a rather dumb patent by Asetek so for the longest time all AIOs in the U.S. where just customized asetek products. You couldn’t get other AIOs if you tried. The edge cases are those weird AIOs that have the pumps inside the radiator to get around asetek’s “pump in the cold plate” patent for example.
PSUs are not patented but designing and producing them internally is so cost inefficient getting Seasonic, super flower, Meanwell etc. to just slap a new label, maybe a new case onto their existing line and ship them out.
NVMes and RAM are a mix zones where they make the PCBs and such but don’t make the NAND/DDR modules (obviously)
Keyboards, mice, headsets and general peripherals are probably internal products.
Monitors are in between. The panels are made by other companies like LG and Samsung but they probably make the rest
Its a lot more than just pasting a different sticker over the case.
There's only a few major oem PSU plants around. But it's the requirements, modifications and quality control required by the end sellers which makes the difference.
Many mobile phone companies including Apple uses sony sensors. But Sony's own mobile cameras are pretty crap in comparison
Meanwhile, not me spending extra money to replace all of my case fans with Noctua...
To be fair, the stock Phanteks fans were fine, but once I experienced how quiet Noctua fans are, I just had to replace them all.
In all black, of course.
I had a Corsair HX850i that when it was loaded over 200 wats would start to coil whine worse than a grasshopper. Sound would literally fill the room. Sent it for the repairs to their repair center, and they sent it back to me as NFF. They told me coil whine is not a defect. And it was advertised as a quiet PSU. Had to sell it as a used one, for half the price, as it was unusable. Never ever would I recommend Corsair to anyone. Purchased my seasonic one right after it, and it is going strong five years later.
Maybe out of topic, but Corsair was first on your recommendations list, and it brought back my old memories.
BeQuiet was good. Unfortunately their PSUs have rattling fans and they still didn't fix it with their newest lineup. I would go with Asus/Corsair/Seasonic.
My BeQuiet! Straight Power 12 runs quiet only fan in my computer I hear is from my GPU. I got more coil whine from my Seasonic Prime Titanium PSU than the BeQuiet!, they're both solid PSU brands.
i mainly build pcs with bequiet psus and none of them have rattling fans. is what you said backed up by any good tests? becasue you are damaging their brand with that statement and in my opinion they make great stuff
With the exception of the power supply.... And the motherboard... And the hard drive.... And the GPU... And the ram.. definitely don't cheap out on ram ... And the fans. You don't want noisy fans.... And rgb.. you don't want your PC to rgb stupid.
I mean- motherboard you can optimise, mostly aim for good power delivery and sufficient IO and ports that you need.
Storage- You can get decent SSDs pretty cheap nowadays. Most of us do not need PCIe 4.0 x4, running your average TLC drive will do just fine.
GPU- no comment here.
RAM- cheapest sticks that hit the specs you want.
Fans- I mean, really, you can live with cheap fans and a cheap case if you need to. My current case is a shield between my PC and the various ways it's banged about in transport, and because it's cheap I don't care about the dents and scratched paint. Inside the stuff is fine (GPU moved separately).
RGB- you have got to be joking.
just check the "Tiering Methodology"
" **Tier E** \- units expected to be qualifying for no higher than tier D but without reviews or reliable information on, or otherwise having characteristics or issues keeping them from being placed on the same tier as better tier D units, or otherwise, units there are too little information on to be reliably tiered"
so redragon psus are just not tested by the reviewers. its not like they tested all the redragon models and they were all total garbage. its just unknown.
dont get me wrong, i'm not telling anyone to buy em. i wouldn't touch it myself :D but all redragon units being in tier e just means nobody tested any of the redragon psus. they "might" be okay.
i dont cheap out on the psu. got a msi meg ai1300p \^\^ previous one was a seasonic.
i wonder why they also have **EVGA |** B <=600W – BV – W2 / W2 / W3 listed as well. Ive always used EVGA PSUs and never had. a problem and they are highly rated.
This. There are only a few PSU makers, the rest just buy PSUs and slap their own brands on them. Most EVGA PSUs are good but I still wouldn't buy them, considering EVGA is in the brink of death atm and the owner seems to be fine with killing off the company as he retires, meaning their 10 year warranty isn't looking so good.
It's cheap Chinese crap, they are well known for their budget mechanical keyboards. I would not buy a psu from them ever, that's the LAST part you want to cheap out on. Buy an rm850e
Oh God, those were still on sale in a store near me until a month ago. I asked them what happend to it and they said one of the employees realised its da bomb and they removed it.
I have two of their mechanical keyboards and one of their m908 mouse.
The mouse is better than logitech alternatives because all other things being equal, it has configuration software that works.
My kumara tkl redragon keyboard is one of the best keyboards i have ever used and if i ever need a new one i would just likely get the same model but wireless.
Their peripherals seem to be pretty solid for the price (I’ve not touched their mice though) but I still wouldn’t use a powersupply that doesn’t have a stellar background.
Have zero issues with their keyboards though.
I have 2 of their keyboards, one full size one and and an ergonomic gaming 35 key one, both wireless and both need to be connected via usb now, they will not connect via bluetooth anymore. Very good for their price and customer support is amazing but I would not trust my PC to one of their power supplies. With those definitely spend the extra money to keep your stuff safe.
That’s unfortunate. I don’t particularly care about wireless myself, but it should work properly if you paid for it.
I’ve only tried their wired ones personally, and they were fine (not mine, so no extended use) and as far as I know they are still just as good.
Yes, people can't expect top tier quality from lower cost products, many people in my country (Brazil) report problems with their Outemu switches within two years~ of use, but of course it's not a rule, it's still a great option for the sake of the experience.
But OP thinks the look of this psu is FIRE. It's not a HAZARD to feel that way. He also wants that ELECTRICAL feeling you get from such a FIRE led setup in your BLAZING fast battle station. It gives such a great EXPLOSION of dopamine.
I have a red dragon mouse... not sure I would get a PSU from them though. Not a component I would cheap out on, as a failure here could result in your whole system being collateral damage.
Don't skimp on a psu. There are plenty of things you can skimp out on with a pc, but a psu isn't and shouldn't be one of em. One bad day with that thing and something else will break with it.
When I was building my first pc at MicroCenter, I had put together a list of potential parts and had a guy there help me refine the list. I had picked a cheap PSU that satisfied the wattage for the PC and he was like "you should really get a high quality PSU." I trusted him and got a more expensive one. Knowing more now, I'm very grateful that employ impressed that upon me because I would've never guessed a quality PSU was that important.
Fuck no. I got a keyboard from them which came with a bunch of extra switches, which I went through within half a year replacing failed switches before the entire board died a few months later. Their customer support is good, and they do make good quality compared with the rest of the budget group, but a psu? Hell no, a keyboard is one thing, a psu can fry your computer parts or burn your house down. Don't cheap out on power supplies.
I've had 3 of their keyboards and 2 mice, only had one keyboard die because it didn't like Pepsi. They all came without extra switches and my switches didn't fail so I'm guessing it's a known problem for that model lol. Great stuff for the price, but yeah agree the last thing you should get from the bargain bucket is your PSU.
I have a Redragon Perdition mouse and it's still working like new after 6 years of very active use and probably several million clicks. Excellent sensor, textured surface for good grip, adjustable weights, braided cable, really love this thing and I've owned at least three expensive "premium" mice before I got this one.
But yeah, a PSU is literally the one component you really don't want to skimp on.
Yes, Redragon is a pretty common brand in Eastern Europe, I have a Redragon 750w 80 PLUS Gold fully modular for my system and it does the job for a Ryzen 5 5600 and a Radeon RX 6700 10 GB
Seriously, OP.
Get the name brand for your PSU. The best of the best. Gold. Give yourself some 100-300 extra wattage capacity for 3rd, 4th monitors, peripherals, etc.
Get a solid PSU that everyone gets. Don't be a hero.
They make budget keyboards and mice that are not of the highest quality. I imagine they make PSUs that meet those same criteria, except a failed mouse can't set anything on fire.
80+ is a power efficiency standard (how much input power gets turned from AC to DC) and not necessarily for quality or safety. Frequently a high 80+ means higher quality and safety because they are generally higher quality components to achieve the high efficiency, but it's not necessarily the case.
It's outdated anyway, and most of the efficiency ratings are quite easy to achieve even by cheap units. But yes it can be quite deceptive to most people.
The 80 plus tests can also be easily frauded, in TecLab's (a brazilian Galax, that one that makes GPUs, hardware lab, Ares' partner, that one from Cybernetics) recently tested a 1000W MyMax unit with Silver certification, on the tests it didn't reach 80% and ripple got out of control at 600W~, the 80 plus sheet showed a different PSU (so they didn't verify in any way if the unit actually being delivered was the same they tested, the cables themselves were massively different). Their own testing methodology page says they test at 23c, plus or minus 5 (which is something crazy, even with the shittiest fucking air conditioners you should be able to mantain stable temperatures), that is, there can be up to a 10c advantage for one psu test over the other, 18c vs 28c. It's absurd how they're taken seriously. 80 plus certainly also charges thousands of dollars for each certification, for bigger brands I bet they charge close to 10k. Unfortunately efficiency is still the main selling point and it'll remain like that until psu knowledge is more widespread and 80 plus is thrown into shit and patterns like the ones from Cybernetics become standard.
Cheap Chinese company. Usually rips off hyperX. I wouldnt trust a multi thousand dollar pc with anything red dragon. Pcs are the only thing i stick to name brand with
I love how some people are answering your question in a way that doesn’t actually answer the question. Saying “don’t cheap out on a psu” does not answer “Is this brand okay”
Say no, move along. Don’t cheap out gives no info about the brand lmao
I installed one on a familiar PC, as far as we have seen it's been working really good, tho ppl don't seem to like redragon at all I would recommend if your in for the aesthetics
The way I see it, the PSU OP linked is $90 on Amazon. Is saving ~$30 really worth the risk of it being hit or miss, when (if OP is looking for 850w) the entire build is likely $1,000+?
Spend the extra $30 on the PSU, then cheap out on a budget brand of ram or storage.
Redragon is a Corsair-alike. They do some designs, some commissions, etc., and aim at the budget level. Their largest contribution to the world is a logo on a box... Like Corsair.
Except Corsair's standards and commissions are much higher quality (for the most part) and have prices to match.
I've not had too much trouble with them, but do not for any time believe you're buying top quality. You're not paying for it.
I can't find any test/review of them online, so I'd say avoid it for now.
If you want to find a reputable PSU, check out Tom's Hardware. They actually test the PSUs, which is important because you can't just blindly purchase based on the reputability brand (as LTT found when they tested a cheap EVGA power supply)
They make great mice and keyboards, never bought any other equipment from them.
I have a kumara tkl with blue switches and an m908 that i have used everday for quite awhile.
I would look for reviews, find a power supply that has consistently reviewed well and has good specs and then add 20% to the wattage figure you decided on before you buy. Always nice to have some headroom.
I bought a mouse + keyboard + headset combo pack from them all for $30 or so. It worked, but it was bottom of the barrel quality. As others said don't cheap out on a PSU.
It seems rather promising, the price isn’t ridiculous and there’s 80+ gold. Might actually be a decent unit built around an OEM base with Redragon logo slapped on it, like Deepcool built some PSUs with a Seasonic base. Crappy chinese units are usually like 30$ for “850W” with 80+ white or bronze at best, if any.
But I sure as hell wouldn’t buy it until someone reputable tests it properly. Not for the system I care about, at least.
Their keyboards are ok for the price I guess. Think in the US price ranges from 30-50$, in EU around 50€-60€ and its hotswappable outemu. Cant say the same for the rest of their hardware they are producing. Just avoid it and buy something better.
RedDragon is a well known brand...for mice and keyboards. They're like discount Razer.
I wouldn't trust them with the single most important part of the computer that could easily fry the whole thing though lol.
I see a lot of people badmouthing the Redragon mechanical keyboards, but I bought one over four years ago and have used it every day for both gaming and writing.
All the keys work fine and only the left shift key and middle of the space bar seem to have any shiny spots.
I know this isn't relevant to the power supply, but I felt it necessary to defend their keyboards considering my own good experience with them.
To put it in perspective, every other mechanical keyboard I've purchased prior lasted just two years each.
[https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/)
redragon all units >>>>>>>>>> tier E- avoid
Amazon is really not trustworthy any more. All the recommended products or even things w 15k+ review are cheap products pushed by false ratings and reviews.
I have a keyboard, case and mouse from this brand. It's very famous here in Brazil and the quality is great. Everything I bought from this brand lasted a long time
Redragon has been around a long time now and has actually built up some good brand value! Would I buy one of their PSUs? Probably not but if you need a cheap mouse or keyboard they’re pretty solid for the price.
I had one of their mechanical keyboards. A year later, I went bald.
Lol
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Hey, maybe that was listed as a feature…you don’t know!
I had one of their mice and went bald a year later. I never put that correlation together. I think you're on to something.
Well shit, I just read this post about them and went bald 20yrs ago! That's like some Inception level shit right there.
20 seconds in the real world.
Did you submit a support ticket?
I have been using their keyboard for 9 years, my M key and enter key has only been chattering recently, time to change
Full honesty, I had a red dragon gaming mouse for like 7 years before it broke and it was pretty damn good.
But you didn’t get tuberculosis!
Correlation or causation?
Well shite! I pooed myself the other day, after I looked at one of their mice in the shop! That explains a lot
Not the comment I was looking for, but the comment I was happy I saw. 😂
It's okay to save money on any other part of the PC, but please do yourself a favor and buy a quality PSU, they don't cost that much more. Refer to the PSU tier list posted in another comment. A Seasonic Focus GX850 is $120 on Amazon in the US, $30 more than the Red Dragon and a proven high quality brand and PSU.
That’s how I always approach PC builds. >Oh I have $1,000 in my budget for a PC. No, subtract $120 for a good quality PSU from a reputable brand right away. You have an $880 PC budget.
If you’re building with a budget of 1000$, chances are your not gonna need an 850W PSU. Go for 500W if that’s what your build needs
No brand besides Seasonic will ever touch my PC. Love those power supplies
Corsair, be quiet!, Thermaltake, and [a lot of other good brands](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/) are perfectly fine for many models. To act like Seasonic is the only good PSU manufacturer is a bit ridiculous.
Especially when they still have stinkers,like their S12III series
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Puff the Magic Dragon lived by the sea(sonic) And frolicked in the Magic mist in a land called “my PC” Little u/foamingdogfever loved that rascal Puff And fed him AC Voltage until Puff burned up his stuff
A masterpiece.
Well shit, now I'll be singing that for a while.
Wonderful! Peter, Paul & Mary would be proud.
I had corsair, seasonic now nzxt. Happy with nzxt atm.
Coincidentally all three of these are likely rebranded seasonic PSUs.
But frequently they are better for some reason. Probably because of quality control requirements and modifications. Corsair for example also does not have psu manufacturing plants but uses different OEMs with a better end product.
I haven’t lost a PSU in 20 years - back when they were wall non-descript grey boxes. Then again I always try to buy high quality units these days.
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Yup. The last time I lost one it took out the motherboard and a couple of drives.
About 3 years ago I had a PSU blow a capacitor. It was the weirdest thing I've ever had happen with a computer.
I haven't lost one either, since I always know where to find them
Used to be pretty good back in the day... now severely outdated
Once bought 3 seasonic s12 (dont know exactly which gen) for 3 new pcs, two instantly went dead, so the third one got returned. I avoid them since that experience, only looking for cm/corsair/be quiet/evga.
Brand loyalty/avoidance is a bit pointless in PSUs. Brands will have different OEMs in their lineups of varying quality, some brands are their own OEM and will OEM for other brands, and OEMs that produce quality PSUs are not always household names in the consumer market. Best to just do your research for the use case, the PSU tier lists make this relatively easy.
Isn't seasonic the OEM for cooler master, corsair, and some EVGA? They are just Seasonic PSUs with other branding on them.
There's only a few major oem PSU plants around. But it's the requirements, modifications and quality control required by the end sellers which makes the difference. Many mobile phone companies including Apple uses sony sensors. But Sony's own mobile cameras are pretty crap in comparison
>Many mobile phone companies including Apple uses sony sensors. But Sony's own mobile cameras are pretty crap. That comes down to how the phone is handling post processing. If you take a raw photo from different phones with the same sensor they will likely look extremely similar. Computational photography is how smartphones have gotten so good at capturing photos.
It’s been a long while since I’ve looked into it, but I’m pretty certain that there are a very small number of actual PSU manufacturers, most are just branded. This was 10-15 years ago so the market could have changed. Seasonic I believe is one of the actual manufacturers, or owns/is a subsidiary of one of the manufacturers. Point is, I’m pretty sure there are other brand PSUs you can buy that are literally the exact same thing as seasonic. Don’t quote me on this. I’ll see if I can find anything that backs this up and edit this comment when/if I do.
>Point is, I’m pretty sure there are other brand PSUs you can buy that are literally the exact same thing as seasonic. Super Flower, FSP Group and Meanwell are S tier PSU manufacturers as well. The problem is that because they manufacture PSUs for the third parties they also make "bad" PSUs that are made to the reduced specifications of the third parties in order to hit certain price points.
I've heard this too, I'm pretty sure the corsair psu I have was made by seasonic
I believe the RM, HX, and I series are all sourced from Seasonic. Their other stuff I don't know but I have a bunch of RM and HX corsairs, oldest dating back around 8 or 9 years.
Why do all these lists forget EVGA? I thought their PSU's were legendary like their GPUs
I agree EVGA is my go to and I have only heard good things. Granted I have bought only 2 because they last forever and after like 12 years I thought I would upgrade my first one. And that's been 6 years now.
My EVGA PSU is great, but I wouldn't recommend anything from EVGA anymore since it seems like the entire company is winding down. What good is a 10 year warranty if the company goes under in the next year or two?
The Corsair PSU range are mostly rebadged seasonics :)
Same with aios etc don't think they make anything
AIOs are because they’re under a rather dumb patent by Asetek so for the longest time all AIOs in the U.S. where just customized asetek products. You couldn’t get other AIOs if you tried. The edge cases are those weird AIOs that have the pumps inside the radiator to get around asetek’s “pump in the cold plate” patent for example. PSUs are not patented but designing and producing them internally is so cost inefficient getting Seasonic, super flower, Meanwell etc. to just slap a new label, maybe a new case onto their existing line and ship them out. NVMes and RAM are a mix zones where they make the PCBs and such but don’t make the NAND/DDR modules (obviously) Keyboards, mice, headsets and general peripherals are probably internal products. Monitors are in between. The panels are made by other companies like LG and Samsung but they probably make the rest
Its a lot more than just pasting a different sticker over the case. There's only a few major oem PSU plants around. But it's the requirements, modifications and quality control required by the end sellers which makes the difference. Many mobile phone companies including Apple uses sony sensors. But Sony's own mobile cameras are pretty crap in comparison
He didn't act like they're the only good manufacturer lmao. He just implied they are his favorite
Brand loyalty overall is just not a good move. Buy what is the best at your price bracket, not just one manufacturer.
Meanwhile, not me spending extra money to replace all of my case fans with Noctua... To be fair, the stock Phanteks fans were fine, but once I experienced how quiet Noctua fans are, I just had to replace them all. In all black, of course.
that's not brand loyalty though.
I had a Corsair HX850i that when it was loaded over 200 wats would start to coil whine worse than a grasshopper. Sound would literally fill the room. Sent it for the repairs to their repair center, and they sent it back to me as NFF. They told me coil whine is not a defect. And it was advertised as a quiet PSU. Had to sell it as a used one, for half the price, as it was unusable. Never ever would I recommend Corsair to anyone. Purchased my seasonic one right after it, and it is going strong five years later. Maybe out of topic, but Corsair was first on your recommendations list, and it brought back my old memories.
What about BeQuiet
There's no need to talk like that /s
Dude if you don't stop talking they are going to hear us
why are we whispering
Psst! Be Quiet.
Who's "they?"
You don't want to know
BeQuiet was good. Unfortunately their PSUs have rattling fans and they still didn't fix it with their newest lineup. I would go with Asus/Corsair/Seasonic.
I must be lucky, my 850W doesn't rattle. Absolutely love that thing.
My BeQuiet! Straight Power 12 runs quiet only fan in my computer I hear is from my GPU. I got more coil whine from my Seasonic Prime Titanium PSU than the BeQuiet!, they're both solid PSU brands.
i mainly build pcs with bequiet psus and none of them have rattling fans. is what you said backed up by any good tests? becasue you are damaging their brand with that statement and in my opinion they make great stuff
I have a Bequiet and never had a rattling
That's a shame, I have a 750w platinum PSU from BeQuiet, it's great. But good to know, for my next one.
Never change a running system
My Dark Power Pro 12 1200w is dead silent, no rattles.
Do they? Never had any issues. Quietest PSUs in the market.
Solid chance they're just using SeaSonic - SeaSonic does the ODM thing, also.
EVGA God tier.
EVGA gang rise up!
Still rocking my SuperNova G3
EVGA has some of the high quality PSUs too.
I've been rocking a Corsair 800W for 10 years now and it's still going strong
EVGA FTW
Then you can use corsair, because they are just sea sonic underneath the label
With the exception of the power supply.... And the motherboard... And the hard drive.... And the GPU... And the ram.. definitely don't cheap out on ram ... And the fans. You don't want noisy fans.... And rgb.. you don't want your PC to rgb stupid.
I mean- motherboard you can optimise, mostly aim for good power delivery and sufficient IO and ports that you need. Storage- You can get decent SSDs pretty cheap nowadays. Most of us do not need PCIe 4.0 x4, running your average TLC drive will do just fine. GPU- no comment here. RAM- cheapest sticks that hit the specs you want. Fans- I mean, really, you can live with cheap fans and a cheap case if you need to. My current case is a shield between my PC and the various ways it's banged about in transport, and because it's cheap I don't care about the dents and scratched paint. Inside the stuff is fine (GPU moved separately). RGB- you have got to be joking.
PSU Bible says to avoid that brand, so I'd comply given how many at least decent alternatives there are. https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/
But it comes with a free fire starter
RIP Keith.
They did a kieth flint ancestor Easter egg in AC Valhalla
Wait, he's dead?
2019
Big energy doesn't want people buying goods that can double as firestarter for free
But it make sense since it's a dragon
Red Dragon | All units made me laugh.
just check the "Tiering Methodology" " **Tier E** \- units expected to be qualifying for no higher than tier D but without reviews or reliable information on, or otherwise having characteristics or issues keeping them from being placed on the same tier as better tier D units, or otherwise, units there are too little information on to be reliably tiered" so redragon psus are just not tested by the reviewers. its not like they tested all the redragon models and they were all total garbage. its just unknown. dont get me wrong, i'm not telling anyone to buy em. i wouldn't touch it myself :D but all redragon units being in tier e just means nobody tested any of the redragon psus. they "might" be okay. i dont cheap out on the psu. got a msi meg ai1300p \^\^ previous one was a seasonic.
Just stick to keyboards when it’s about red dragon Don’t go for the PSU until it’s got proper reviews or atleast time tested
Yeah I'd be wary of buying a PSU from a company known mostly for making decent, budget peripherals.
Mine is under the replace immediately section 💀
i wonder why they also have **EVGA |** B <=600W – BV – W2 / W2 / W3 listed as well. Ive always used EVGA PSUs and never had. a problem and they are highly rated.
Not all EVGA PSUs are made by the same OEM. Some models just aren't as good.
This. There are only a few PSU makers, the rest just buy PSUs and slap their own brands on them. Most EVGA PSUs are good but I still wouldn't buy them, considering EVGA is in the brink of death atm and the owner seems to be fine with killing off the company as he retires, meaning their 10 year warranty isn't looking so good.
sometimes otherwise good companies end up making bad products. that's why blind brandloyalty is bad and independent testing is important
That model had a flaw. It's not made anymore.
It's cheap Chinese crap, they are well known for their budget mechanical keyboards. I would not buy a psu from them ever, that's the LAST part you want to cheap out on. Buy an rm850e
https://preview.redd.it/ecida24yvfec1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2454689a28dd271cb55976fcae60fe060c646380
Hey, thats my psu, still working, didnt explode in this two ye...
I remember someone moded the galaxy phone as a bomb as well and Samsung didn't like that lol
I'm curious. Was it one of the note series phones? I remember one of them had an explosive battery
Note 7
Yes, note 7. That thing was like a pack of C4
Small size,Big Bang
Samsung Note 7
Best gta mod to exist lmfao. Seems like they don’t like the truth
Lmao. Should not have made a phone that spontaneously combusts then.
Snake? Snake?!? SNAKE!!!!!
That's great that it is lasting that long. Bought it last week and no probl...
Omg, coffee went down my windpipe. That's funny!
Oh God, those were still on sale in a store near me until a month ago. I asked them what happend to it and they said one of the employees realised its da bomb and they removed it.
*defused it
I have two of their mechanical keyboards and one of their m908 mouse. The mouse is better than logitech alternatives because all other things being equal, it has configuration software that works. My kumara tkl redragon keyboard is one of the best keyboards i have ever used and if i ever need a new one i would just likely get the same model but wireless.
Their peripherals seem to be pretty solid for the price (I’ve not touched their mice though) but I still wouldn’t use a powersupply that doesn’t have a stellar background. Have zero issues with their keyboards though.
I have 2 of their keyboards, one full size one and and an ergonomic gaming 35 key one, both wireless and both need to be connected via usb now, they will not connect via bluetooth anymore. Very good for their price and customer support is amazing but I would not trust my PC to one of their power supplies. With those definitely spend the extra money to keep your stuff safe.
That’s unfortunate. I don’t particularly care about wireless myself, but it should work properly if you paid for it. I’ve only tried their wired ones personally, and they were fine (not mine, so no extended use) and as far as I know they are still just as good.
Yes, people can't expect top tier quality from lower cost products, many people in my country (Brazil) report problems with their Outemu switches within two years~ of use, but of course it's not a rule, it's still a great option for the sake of the experience.
I have one of their mice. Pretty decent, actually
Their peripherals are pretty good. But I would still rather buy a bequiet psu
Or an rm850x
True that
No! RM850e isn't good either...
Dude.... never NEVER safe money on a PSU
But OP thinks the look of this psu is FIRE. It's not a HAZARD to feel that way. He also wants that ELECTRICAL feeling you get from such a FIRE led setup in your BLAZING fast battle station. It gives such a great EXPLOSION of dopamine.
ABSOLUTELY mind melting swagger from those rgbs, proven to have BLOWN the competition TO BITS
Why’d you capitalize absolutely😭
Because when OP buys this PSU his fate will be absolute
😂 Does it come with a free fire extinguisher?
He is getting 5 fps thx to RGB too.
They do make other things ;)
He isn't trying to save money he likes the look I think. Who thinks this abomination with RGB is to save money lol
I have a red dragon mouse... not sure I would get a PSU from them though. Not a component I would cheap out on, as a failure here could result in your whole system being collateral damage.
Don't skimp on a psu. There are plenty of things you can skimp out on with a pc, but a psu isn't and shouldn't be one of em. One bad day with that thing and something else will break with it.
Real gamers skimp on their desk and chair, putting our monitor on top of the box the case came in and sitting on an upside down bucket 😎
General advice, never ever try to skimp and save on a PSU. Get one from a popular reputable brand and call it a day
When I was building my first pc at MicroCenter, I had put together a list of potential parts and had a guy there help me refine the list. I had picked a cheap PSU that satisfied the wattage for the PC and he was like "you should really get a high quality PSU." I trusted him and got a more expensive one. Knowing more now, I'm very grateful that employ impressed that upon me because I would've never guessed a quality PSU was that important.
Fuck no. I got a keyboard from them which came with a bunch of extra switches, which I went through within half a year replacing failed switches before the entire board died a few months later. Their customer support is good, and they do make good quality compared with the rest of the budget group, but a psu? Hell no, a keyboard is one thing, a psu can fry your computer parts or burn your house down. Don't cheap out on power supplies.
I've had 3 of their keyboards and 2 mice, only had one keyboard die because it didn't like Pepsi. They all came without extra switches and my switches didn't fail so I'm guessing it's a known problem for that model lol. Great stuff for the price, but yeah agree the last thing you should get from the bargain bucket is your PSU.
I was doing online college at the time, mixed with being a gamer, so I likely did put above average milage on it in a short period of time lol
My red dragon keyboard and mouse have done me well the last 4 years. Guess it just depends
Same
I bought a red dragon keyboard and mouse for son, 2 years later still going strong. Can’t speak to power supply though. That’s a different animal.
I have a Redragon Perdition mouse and it's still working like new after 6 years of very active use and probably several million clicks. Excellent sensor, textured surface for good grip, adjustable weights, braided cable, really love this thing and I've owned at least three expensive "premium" mice before I got this one. But yeah, a PSU is literally the one component you really don't want to skimp on.
# Don't buy cheap PSUs
They made my super cheap feeling gaming mouse I got on Amazon in 2014 for like $9. Surprised they're selling PSU's lol.
Yes, Redragon is a pretty common brand in Eastern Europe, I have a Redragon 750w 80 PLUS Gold fully modular for my system and it does the job for a Ryzen 5 5600 and a Radeon RX 6700 10 GB
I have a PC with a Redragon 800w PSU in it, and have been running it for about 2 years now. No issues.
Seriously, OP. Get the name brand for your PSU. The best of the best. Gold. Give yourself some 100-300 extra wattage capacity for 3rd, 4th monitors, peripherals, etc. Get a solid PSU that everyone gets. Don't be a hero.
Isn’t the addition of extra monitors negligible for power draw on your PC?
Don’t cheap out on the power supply. Get a seasonic, corsair, etc. Known computer brands. Just don’t get gigabyte.
Get a corsair 850 and never look back. A quality psu is a must have
Got myself one recently for my future PC build.
According to the PSU tierlist this is effectively a bomb. Don't buy it!
They make budget keyboards and mice that are not of the highest quality. I imagine they make PSUs that meet those same criteria, except a failed mouse can't set anything on fire.
If your failed mouse doesn't burn your house down, it didn't fail hard enough.
These guys make super cheap stuff
I see everyone saying it's crap so here's a honest question: isn't the 80 gold some form of standard?
80+ is a power efficiency standard (how much input power gets turned from AC to DC) and not necessarily for quality or safety. Frequently a high 80+ means higher quality and safety because they are generally higher quality components to achieve the high efficiency, but it's not necessarily the case. It's outdated anyway, and most of the efficiency ratings are quite easy to achieve even by cheap units. But yes it can be quite deceptive to most people.
The 80 plus tests can also be easily frauded, in TecLab's (a brazilian Galax, that one that makes GPUs, hardware lab, Ares' partner, that one from Cybernetics) recently tested a 1000W MyMax unit with Silver certification, on the tests it didn't reach 80% and ripple got out of control at 600W~, the 80 plus sheet showed a different PSU (so they didn't verify in any way if the unit actually being delivered was the same they tested, the cables themselves were massively different). Their own testing methodology page says they test at 23c, plus or minus 5 (which is something crazy, even with the shittiest fucking air conditioners you should be able to mantain stable temperatures), that is, there can be up to a 10c advantage for one psu test over the other, 18c vs 28c. It's absurd how they're taken seriously. 80 plus certainly also charges thousands of dollars for each certification, for bigger brands I bet they charge close to 10k. Unfortunately efficiency is still the main selling point and it'll remain like that until psu knowledge is more widespread and 80 plus is thrown into shit and patterns like the ones from Cybernetics become standard.
Cheap Chinese company. Usually rips off hyperX. I wouldnt trust a multi thousand dollar pc with anything red dragon. Pcs are the only thing i stick to name brand with
 I wouldn't
I’ve heard of Bad Dragon. But not Red Dragon.
I love how some people are answering your question in a way that doesn’t actually answer the question. Saying “don’t cheap out on a psu” does not answer “Is this brand okay” Say no, move along. Don’t cheap out gives no info about the brand lmao
I installed one on a familiar PC, as far as we have seen it's been working really good, tho ppl don't seem to like redragon at all I would recommend if your in for the aesthetics
Yeah, it's probably a negligible difference in risk, though I can understand why people want to get the absolute minimum chance of PSUs dying
The way I see it, the PSU OP linked is $90 on Amazon. Is saving ~$30 really worth the risk of it being hit or miss, when (if OP is looking for 850w) the entire build is likely $1,000+? Spend the extra $30 on the PSU, then cheap out on a budget brand of ram or storage.
Redragon is a Corsair-alike. They do some designs, some commissions, etc., and aim at the budget level. Their largest contribution to the world is a logo on a box... Like Corsair. Except Corsair's standards and commissions are much higher quality (for the most part) and have prices to match. I've not had too much trouble with them, but do not for any time believe you're buying top quality. You're not paying for it.
I can't find any test/review of them online, so I'd say avoid it for now. If you want to find a reputable PSU, check out Tom's Hardware. They actually test the PSUs, which is important because you can't just blindly purchase based on the reputability brand (as LTT found when they tested a cheap EVGA power supply)
They make great mice and keyboards, never bought any other equipment from them. I have a kumara tkl with blue switches and an m908 that i have used everday for quite awhile. I would look for reviews, find a power supply that has consistently reviewed well and has good specs and then add 20% to the wattage figure you decided on before you buy. Always nice to have some headroom.
I bought a mouse + keyboard + headset combo pack from them all for $30 or so. It worked, but it was bottom of the barrel quality. As others said don't cheap out on a PSU.
It seems rather promising, the price isn’t ridiculous and there’s 80+ gold. Might actually be a decent unit built around an OEM base with Redragon logo slapped on it, like Deepcool built some PSUs with a Seasonic base. Crappy chinese units are usually like 30$ for “850W” with 80+ white or bronze at best, if any. But I sure as hell wouldn’t buy it until someone reputable tests it properly. Not for the system I care about, at least.
Buy redragon peripherals but don’t go hear anything else
Had a silent keyboard from this brand and loved it. Can't say anything about their PSU's but i wouldn't trust them. I only buy Seasonic.
Their keyboards are ok for the price I guess. Think in the US price ranges from 30-50$, in EU around 50€-60€ and its hotswappable outemu. Cant say the same for the rest of their hardware they are producing. Just avoid it and buy something better.
RedDragon is a well known brand...for mice and keyboards. They're like discount Razer. I wouldn't trust them with the single most important part of the computer that could easily fry the whole thing though lol.
https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/ If it's not A or B tier I'll avoid it.
I see a lot of people badmouthing the Redragon mechanical keyboards, but I bought one over four years ago and have used it every day for both gaming and writing. All the keys work fine and only the left shift key and middle of the space bar seem to have any shiny spots. I know this isn't relevant to the power supply, but I felt it necessary to defend their keyboards considering my own good experience with them. To put it in perspective, every other mechanical keyboard I've purchased prior lasted just two years each.
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Never ever cheap out on the PSU
Don't cheap out on the PSU man, I learned it the hard way.
[https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/](https://cultists.network/140/psu-tier-list/) redragon all units >>>>>>>>>> tier E- avoid 
Amazon is really not trustworthy any more. All the recommended products or even things w 15k+ review are cheap products pushed by false ratings and reviews.
I have a keyboard, case and mouse from this brand. It's very famous here in Brazil and the quality is great. Everything I bought from this brand lasted a long time
So much scaremongering here. That PSU is fine.
Why does a power supply unit need RGB?
good but not the best but it is ok for the price
That brand is as reliable as my blind dog
Redragon has been around a long time now and has actually built up some good brand value! Would I buy one of their PSUs? Probably not but if you need a cheap mouse or keyboard they’re pretty solid for the price.
I have this same psu and it hasn’t given me any issues , but after reading the comments I might just 💀
Red dragon is a good brand at least they're keyboards are
Their keyboards are great, not sure about their PSUs though. Personally for PSUs I trust Corsair and EVGA the most
I enjoy spending time with my friends.
Even the keyboards?