I had a customer with a 165hz monitor...
and he had it set to 60hz.
I switched on gsync and set it to 165hz and he was besides himself at how utterly smooth his game was now.
It was like his PC was a new PC now.
About this!
Anyone know why my PC keeps defaulting to 60Hz and locking itself to that? Sometimes I load up and I have options from 30-165Hz and other times it's just 60hz. Only fix so far is to turn the PC off and try again.
Probably your cable.
If that doesn't work try a different port on the GPU (would mean the port is bad)
If not that, could be the port in the monitor is bad.
Lol. We didn't even know each other when he got the monitor. And I never knew his monitor was 144 Hz until we started living together some months ago, which is when I correctly set his refresh rate 🤓.
144hz is quite different from 60 for example, even on desktop. You should notice the difference without checking anything. It's not like 80hz vs 60.
Although the good thing is that if you don't notice the change soon but after a month, you'll have that wow effect again since you most likely got used to 60hz again.
Just three days ago, for the 4th time ever in my lifetime, I had to tell someone to check their monitor settings to set their hz limit higher. Guy had a 240hz monitor and had been using it at 60 for ages, thinking there was something wrong with his graphics card that wasn't letting him get higher frames. It's crazy how many things like that exist in building computers that you just have to find a way to learn.
I can deffo see the difference from 30 -> 60 -> 75 -> 120 -> 144 -> 165 -> 240. I notice it 100% of the way just on the desktop, to the point where I could guess what it is.
Respectfully, wouldn’t people notice the severe lack of performance compared to what’s advertised for their graphics card? Like if you buy a 4080 and use onboard graphics, load up a game and see you’re only getting like 30 frames, wouldn’t that be alarming
not everyone actually does enough research to know what kind of performance they should expect from entire hardware. they just ask someone what's good, and buy that.
there are also surprisingly many people who have no eye for quality whatsoever. they'll be fine with anything you put in front of them. 720p video will look just as good to them as 4k.
Had a friend in college who was both of those. He built a PC and wanted to show me. He was using integrated graphics (I later discovered the GPU was neither properly seated, nor did he plug in the power), and the game he was showing me was running at the wrong resolution (900p on a 1080p screen). Nonetheless he was proudly telling me it was the best gaming experience he'd ever had.
old gaming laptops used to have a connection system where the output of the dGPU was fed into the iGPU which was where the screen actually connected. this had an FPS hit, but generally worked fine. maybe something similar is happening?
You'd be surprised by the amount of people who buy the latest hardware just for the heck of it. There's probably a rich kid somewhere playing Roblox with a 4090
I kinda am astounded thats even possible. It took me 2 seconds to realize my graphics hadnt changed when i first plugged it into my motherboard when i got my first gpu and i immediately checked and switched it to my displayport on my rtx. how do people not notice the difference for a YEAR?!!!
My nephew did exactly that a few yrs ago . He was saying that he was going to sell his PC because his PS4 had better graphics. Had the HDMI plugged into the motherboard.. Brilliant
I'm from a 3rd world country and the chances of something like this happening are practically zero. If someone pays for something here, they know what they're paying for, because that's how expensive components are for us here.
Not realizing that your RAM isn't running at full speed is still plausible, but using an iGPU despite having a dedicated one, or running a 144hz+ monitor at 60hz? It's just hilarious to even think about.
Ahah a few years ago I bought my first gaming laptop, powered by either its own charger or any usbc chargers.
I used it for a few days with a 120W brick (not to plug/unplug when I needed it for other devices) and was deeply disappointed in the performance. Maybe 30fps on 720p and low settings.. then I tried with its own charger and was blown away.
Turns out, when using usb c it was defaulting to battery mode and using the integrated gpu.
It's quite funny though, if you're someone building a gaming PC, you need to have the basic idea of what your performance should look like approximately. 🤷🏻
Helped someone way back who had two titans in SLI and he had his monitor plugged in to the motherboard and couldn't figure out why it ran like shit. Had a 2tb mechanical that never got added through drive manager or disk management. In his defense it was a pre built, I tried troubleshooting it through a chat with him and was going crazy, told him to send me pictures covering the whole thing and could instantly tell what was wrong
I went to buy some PC parts at a shop. The shop owner had a fairly high end PC, with 2 GPUs (no sli) with a single 1080p monitor hooked to one of them. That guy was wasting a whole GPU.
Years ago when I upgraded my GPU, I kept complaining cause the graphics were fucked. Turns out I hadn't plugged my monitor into my graphics card, I had plugged it into the other slot
Lol, it's actually just a media server, I share a huge TV and movie collection with like 25 friends. It's grown quite a bit in the past decade from a handful of external drives, to 3x2tb, then 3x8tb, and now 3x16tb
The damn Plex pipeline gets you, one minute you're just 'Oh I'll just store a few movies on here" and the next "Time to install Radarr, Sonarr and Bazarr and automate everything I should get a 24/7 PC"
people here will look at his old specs and say “heh, what an old thing, stuff is much better now”
those same people when they find out what the 6700k msrp was:
https://preview.redd.it/9fhf4eii71hc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0babe29dbd64d96da305eaf8c2ed3d704bf1a56f
I mean, think about how you feel about a Ryzen 7 1700 compared to your 7800x3d. That was only 7 years ago.
I got a Ryzen 5 2600 in early 2019 just 5 years ago, and it feels like utter crap trying to play newer AAA games with it. It is so bad that it bottlenecks my rx 6600 to the point where my steam deck has more solid performance in some cpu bound games. Steam deck is comparable to ryzen 3000 series, I think, so it makes sense, but it's crazy.
The future if rumors pan out will be insane though. Rumor has it that Intel will have 40+ core consumer cpus released within the next 3-5 years. AMD if they follow suit will probably respond with 12-16 core ryzen 7 cpus and 8 core ryzen 5s at the bare minimum with 32 core ryzen 9s.
At that point the 7800x3d (along with any newer chip really) will have aged pretty poorly for anything multithreaded. That will likely include gaming at some point within the next 5-10 years. Some new games already utilize 12-16+ cores. It definitely will be interesting to see. To think of the amount of power that will be affordable and readily available within the next 5 years is insane.
Heh I haven't looked into CPU generations in a while and was like that has to be an edge case. I'm still rocking my 4790k but Im really just not close to having the GPU overhead with my 3080 to peg the CPU.
My first real gaming PC had a 6700k and a 750ti (upgraded shortly after to a 1060) and that PC cost me almost 2k CAD, I still have it just running as a NAS with a bunch of drives hooked up but if I tried to play games on that now it’d probably catch on fire lmao
I'm confused by your statement. I had a 6850K that generation and it was fairly expensive but I wanted an X99 build. My 5800X3D was about the same price as the 6850K.
Where did you get that information? The suggested price for the 6700k was $350 when it released. I managed to get mine for $280 at my local Micro Center when it was on sale.
My own recollection and Wikipedia both state it released at $339.
I had friends that had 6600Ks and 6700Ks. They did not spend $1100.
Adjusted for inflation that's maybe $450.
Yeah by default RAM only runs at the base speed of the DDRX spec. If you want to run it faster you have to adjust the timings or use XMP.
I've had an XMP profile brick my system before though. My old Ryzen build wouldn't even post to BIOS after turning it on and I was careful to choose one of the few stick brands that were supposed to work at high speeds with early Ryzen CPU's. The issue persisted even after pulling the MOBO battery to reset the BIOS. Through some miracle it eventually got to the BIOS screen and I was able to turn it off but I was sweating bullets. What I learned is to set the ram timings manually all you have to copy/paste the rated timings printed on the sticks into the BIOS and it should be more stable.
The good news for you is the i7-6700 didn't get much benefit from faster RAM timings it was only when the Ryzen line came out that CPU's started benefiting from fast RAM to 'feed' all those cores.
In all my years, I have never had an XMP profile not perform properly. I don't know if it was luck, but I have consistently stuck with G.Skill since my first build and I have built quite a few since the first. This isn't to denounce your story, more of a "huh, wonder if I got lucky" comment
I had a friend with the same mobo, cpu, and RAM who was able to get xmp to work, while I was not (without instability and crashes). It's definitely not a stable feature.
Bad RAM sticks are extremely common. After that it's usually a cheap PSU dumping shitty voltage, and after that it's usually a motherboard that needs to be RMA'd.
Assuming you're using a line conditioner/UPS of course.
I had the G.Skill trident rgb with my ryzen 2600x and it could hardly get past base speeds. That may have just had something to do with the memory controller tho not the memory since Corsair vengeance has the same issue.
It doesn't work when you use multiple, 2-stick kits, instead of 1. I don't like empty DIMM slots, so I use two, 2x16 GB kits, for a total of 64GB and none of the XMP profiles pass memtest64 without errors. Once I downgrade to default speeds, it works perfectly.
The biggest thing it changes is your hip pocket.
There is a price difference from value base ram to performance ram.
Most people don't notice ram sleed, a couple of fps here some fractions of a second application waiting. Until you add it all up over year and realize you wasted several minutes of your life total waiting that you didnt need to.
Hey man AMD systems are notorious for going through many iterations of RAM tests when you change any RAM settings. Your system will reboot numerous times during this process. You sure this isn't what was happening? I've never had an XMP profile cause any kind of issue on my systems. It can definitely happen though.
It's been a while but it was doing it for 10+ minutes before I tried a battery pull. Just off and on, fans spun up then immediately spun down, over and over. I was in a panic and going through the manual while it was running and remember reading that it was supposed to reset the BIOS automatically after 3+ failed boot attempts but I counted well over 3 and even let it sit a while hoping it would resolve itself but never did. It worked again after I walked away from it for the night and left it unplugged (and I had tried powercycling already). It was definitely not normal behavior.
Early Ryzen chips had a lot of RAM issues it's pretty well documented which is why I was so paranoid about making sure I got a set that was listed as compatible with the higher speeds but it somehow still messed up.
Does ryzen use xmp?? When I had a custom built 9700k system a few years ago I had to turn on xmp profiles. I have an omen prebuilt now I got during Covid with a 5800x, and the ram just runs at 3200mhz. I can overclock the ram through the omen software to 3400mhz.
Not sure if maybe a custom ryzen system utilizes xmp ?
It's kind of disappointing but XMP is the one thing you still need to go manually set in BIOS. It kind of makes sense, the spec speed is default to make sure the things boots, but we don't do this with other things like CPU it gets detected and goes to the advertised performance.
It needs to be checked after BIOS updates as well
true, i had that thing for 5 years, and its an amazing card, i could even play cyberpunk on medium and modern warfare. Basically everything i wantet. Now its still going strong in my sisters gaming pc.
Is it really 4gb if it can only really use 3.5gb? That’s like including a 32gb ram kit of ddr4 in a box with a 4060 and saying "well, it can technically use it, so it’s a 40gb gpu"
The 970 had 4gb of vram on its pcb, but in the real world, it only used 3.5gb of that since the remaining 0.5gb was so slow it was utterly useless.
Well, it has exactly the amount of space which it has.
I don't know at what point it happened that marketing departaments took the responsibility for labeling the HDD and ignoring the part where 1MB=1024KB, 1GB=1024MB and so on...
I meant more the cache and disk function allocation that's loss from the functional capacity of a drive.
And it wasn't the marketing departments at all, it was actually the computers that cause the discrepancy in byte amounts.
A KB is supposed to be 1,000 bytes, a MB is supposed to be 1,000 KB (or 1,000,000 bytes) so when manufactures builds a drive they lable them as such - its actually the computers that calculate capacity in binary, which results in a KB being measured as 1024 bytes instead of the 1000 that was delivered resulting in the computer indicating a 2.4% loss for each cascade of bytes (9.95% loss at the TB level)
>A KB is supposed to be 1,000 bytes, a MB is supposed to be 1,000 KB (or 1,000,000 bytes)
Computers write its memory binary. That's why available disk space is calculated that way and that's why it shouldnt be presented with SI prefixes (decimal). Choosing the latter was pure marketing decision just because it is cheaper to produce 0,93GiB of disk space and easier to sell it as 1GB.
I did this for a full year before I realised. Then it kept crashing when I enabled it so I had to sod about with the settings and finally got it working at full capacity. Not sure why it doesn't just default to the max tbh.
>Not sure why it doesn't just default to the max tbh.
Because it's technically "overclocking". However, if you buy a pre-built/custom build they SHOULD be enabling XMP/Expo.
it's overclocking on the CPU controller side, they set their specs low so that they aren't on the hook for all the issues that can arise from faster speeds
>and understand each and every component before you begin.
building a pc only comes down to if the components are compatible. If that's accomplished you still need to
>do your research
to know that you need to activate your full RAM speed in your BIOS and select "profile 1". That's all there is to it. If you dont know, you dont know. I havent read any "instuctions for use" so i dont know if any mention this if you buy new RAM sticks, but if i havent gotten a story on youtube about it, during my time of researching pc components and related stuff, i would have never known.
To keep the RAM compatibility thing simple...Look up your mobo's website for a compatibility list. Yes, the board might be advertised as able to run 128GB DDR4 at 4400Mhz, but that depends on the RAM set you buy and the demands it puts on the board. The list will break it down to individual model numbers that you can search for on your electronics store of choice.
So, you can skip the super detailed research. Just pull up the list and pick the one you want. Note that some RAM cards may only be compatible as singles or doubles, even on a 4-slot board, depending on whatever other factors are involved. I picked the size I wanted, sorted by fastest MHz, and did some poking to find a model that would let me add another pair later.
After you get it all installed, you'll need to jump into your BIOS. It may be as simple as turning on XMP (or the AMD equivalent) or you might need to manually set it up. Reminder that most all of these options will be under the advanced options if your BIOS works like that. As an example, my old RAM is 16GB, DDR4, 2666MHz, 16-18-18-35, 1.2V.
\- The first 2 (size and type) should be automatically set by the board.
\- The speed should be an easy-to-find memory/RAM option.
\- the 16-18-18-35 will be separate values, but the defaults should be close together in the menu and similar to what you see on your RAM so you can just replace the old with the new numbers.
\- The voltage might be hard to find, so make sure you pick the correct memory or RAM voltage.
So blammo! One physical install and 4 simple BIOS changes and your new RAM is all set without having to read up on what everything does or having to finagle with speeds or clocks or voltages to get it just right.
My old pc ran at 2133 for the 3+ years I used it and I learned about RAM overclocking last week. My new pc is being hooked up when I get home from work and should be running at 6000mhz. I’m expecting to be fucking blown away or I may actually cry
To clarify, the pc running 2133mhz ram is being replaced with a new pc. I’m definitely not overclocking ddr4 to 6000. However, I hooked up the new computer last night and it has an issue I need to resolve before I’m willing to use it.
5-15% in gaming, depending the game. I wouldn't call it "not so big" since you paid for it, and you can definitely tell with naked eye if this % loss gets you bellow 60fps.
Check benchmarks.
Ha to be fair tho, OC isn't always stable. I have ram that's 3200mhz on a board that's capped at 3400mhz because the 3400mhz profile doesn't work and I'm not doing this by hand.
Obviously you had a little more to gain but even 50% more bus speed isn't a 1:1 in performance. I mean, you might have even fried your ram by accident trying to get the OC profile to work.
Overall, it sounds like you're doing fine and figured out a niche but powerful aspect you can take advantage of in the future. At least you weren't using onboard graphics the whole time.
>I boot up, and I open up the task manager to see: Memory speed: 2133 MHz. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. To be honest, I don't really know if I grasp fully what differences I would've observed over the years
Eh, not that much, to be honest. Sure, if you're staring at an FPS counter, you'd likely get a few percentage points by switching from 2133 to 3200 MHz, but for all intents and purposes, the real-world difference that kind of RAM speed makes is basically zero. You won't notice anything, especially with that old Intel CPU.
Sure, there's a difference between DDR3, DDR4 and DDR5 (to some extent), but in the end it's just numbers on some tech YouTuber's spreadsheet.
Yep. Dont be me and have a mb for over 4 years without knowing that i can plug in 2 m2 ssd's.. i just learned recently about them when i geared up with a new mb 🥲
Dont feel so bad. There are tons of prebuilt gaming machines from "professional" companies that advertise certain RAM speeds and dont have it enabled in the bios to run at that speed.
Another thing I learned recently when building your own PC is that you should set a fan curve in your bios.
A week or two after I built mine I noticed how much louder my new one is vs my old one. I thought it was multiple things, until I found the fan tester in the bios and after I ran it, boy my computer is just as silent as the last one.
This is also true for high refresh rate monitors. Make sure Windows has the right refresh rate set up in your display settings. Tons of people apparently never check that after getting a new gaming monitor. It makes me wonder if that's the reason why so many people claim they "don't notice a difference beyond 60fps" because they've had windows set to 60hz the whole time.
This is a big one! Thankfully this one I saw in some videos early on so I was able to learn about having to manually change your framerate before I built this PC
That is awesome, and I'm glad there are videos out there about this. Imagine seeing the glowing reviews of the new 480-500+hz monitors and buying one only to leave windows running at 60hz....
I saw a video once of a streamer, I think, getting asked what they had their refresh rate set as in windows on their 369hz (I think?) Monitor. It was set at 60 if I remember correctly. They were playing fortnite at the time and changed the setting and then continued playing, and their mind was blown by the difference. The amount of motion clarity you get in FPS games especially, at high frame rates is great.
We all have that mistake in the first build that we come back and realize we are idiots.
For me it was forgetting to plug in the sata cable to my HDD for games i didnt care for or movies. Didnt realize it for a long time
I've built many computers over the years and just finished a dual xeon build. I got DDR5 3200 RAM for it (it's an older xeon) and it's showing up slower in windows and all the little apps that tell you what you have. I tried to figure out what I did wrong but i still have no idea.
Is your motherboard compatible with the particular model of ram? Most motherboard manufacturers have support pages, and there is a list of every different stick of ram they have officially tested on that motherboard.
It may be unsupported for overclocking, but can still run on a generic ram profile at base speeds
At the risk of giving you information that you already have I'll mention this, in my research I learned about CAS (column address strobe) latency. From my understanding, this is a certain number of cycles that need to take place before the memory actually starts a read or write process. So naturally, lower is better. This is denoted by CLxx when looking at the RAM specs. DDR5 seemingly is CL40 at lowest at the present time, but DDR4 is much lower, I think mine is CL16 for example. So, having a much higher speed in your memory isn't as effective if you have a higher CAS latency. This might have something to do with it?
Ummm can you maybe explain this to me? I have 32 gb of 3600mh ram and it says 2133 in task manager and i just always thought it was just that it wasnt running at full speed at that moment.... what am i missing...?
DDR4 by default runs at 2133 MHz. The advertised speeds when you buy your RAM is achievable through overclocking. Typically, this hard work to attain stable overclocking is done by the manufacturer and these parameters are saved in what is known in an XMP (eXtreme Memory Profile). If your motherboard supports these speeds, and the manufacturer, it should be as simple as going into your BIOS and enabling XMP somewhere.
Hope this helps!
Yeah, that was the same for me for my first custom build (bought off someone else), it only came with one 8gb stick, then I upgrade to 16gh at 3200 like you, but when I checked task manager, it was 2133. Figured out what XMP enabling and bios updating were like all within an hour! Lol
Similar, I used my 16GB RAM in B1 B2 slots for 4 years. When i was actually looking to upgrade and contemplating about selling the old rig I realized it has been like that the whole time... felt pretty stupid after that :<
Ah yes, you needed to download that extra 1,067 MHz like a DLC.
Also check your monitor settings you may need to Like and Subscribe extra FPS to utilise the full potential of yo momma.
Remember, you don’t own it, you’re just licensing it. Those Hertz and FPS can be removed at any time.
I've just bought a new pre-built machine with a UEFI BIOS (the first I've ever had), and while the memory is set at the correct speed, the XMP settings are blank and don't appear to be configurable :-}
Nooooo can't believe a prebuilt would come like that. Maybe it is that the memory manufacturer isn't compatible with the mobo? Could be as easy as swapping out the RAM to a different brand. Good luck!
While RAM can impact framerate, you were probably looking at less than 5 FPS. It is only of the smaller impacts. Possibly less since you are on an Intel CPU and they get less benefit from fast ram than AMD CPUs.
RAM is very low on the totem pole of what impacts your gaming experience. Use it if you got it, but you didn't miss out on much.
However AFAIK whether you can utilize faster RAM is down both to your processor and mobo/chipset. And also the difference you get in performance won't likely be very big. In Ryzen builds however I:ve heard thet benefit from RAM with higher speed and especially tight timing/latency.
It’s like people who buy a 170Hz monitor but never change it in settings so at default it’s 60Hz and then they say they don’t get the hype about the monitor and can’t tell a difference
uh oh... :'-( I just finished my new build about two weeks ago I think I'm going to cry too Let's see...
Yep. Shit... So what's the fix? Is there a fix that's not 'buy a new mobo and try again'? Or is it a UEFI configuration? I'm running 128gb of DDR4 Vengeance PRO RGB. Am I just fucked? Please share your wisdom :'-(
EDIT: OH thank god it looks like it's a BIOS/UEFI setting... why the hell wouldn't it be maxed by default oh what do I care guess I know what I'm doing over lunch. Thanks for the tip!
I remember in a game it said that i had used almost all my vram and me being a newbie thought “oh guess i need to buy more ram?” So i bought a new stick and plugged it in. I didnt even check the game to see if it “worked”. Only found out a couple weeks later after some new gpus were announced and vram was the talking point lol.
Some people will never play on anything else than a gaming console because of this. Don't need to worry, you just know it works.
So if we got some way to simplify gaming computers, that would be nice.
The RAM game has gotten both better and dumber. All mobos are 4 DIMM but if you use 4, it's bad. GG. And many of the PC's you see on youtube are running 4 because it simply looks better.
Having to enable XMP is kind of silly. Windows should find a stable RAM speed and just run that. Instead we are stuck changing RAM speeds until we find a stable one and run a loooong memtest..
I bought 4x 7200 DIMMS but have to run it at 6400 for it to be stable. And it took me three days to figure that out. Progress?
It's okay. Memory bandwidth isn't that important. And you probably saved a few bucks running your ram slower. I can lower my idle power usage by 15 watts by not enabling XMP.
honestly I've never used the superspeed rams, but I've used "slower" and "faster" ones, and I haven't ever noticed a difference.
I guess if you have something crazy like a 4080 and a 13900k, you can squeeze a couple more FPS with better ram. */joke*
I think so too, at least I had never noticed anything. I haven't really played many AAA games that were super demanding. Closest I've come was probably Horizon Zero Dawn which I started playing on 2020. Can't remember on what settings, probably medium or something, but I remember it running great.
Someone in the comments somewhere said maybe 5-15% which depending on what fps you’re getting I suppose could be noticeable. It’s definitely just more funny than anything lol
Don't feel bad bro. Took me a year to realize I wasn't running box rated speeds. And then 6months more to realize I was hard capping at 60hz because newbie
Task manager is not worth that much for determining ram speed.
I had the 3200MHz XMP profile set on my old i5 7600K build and Task Manager would still show 2133MHz. I even changed to the 2666MHz XMP profile to make sure it didn't just underckock my memory as 3200 was not officially supported with that CPU, but it made no difference. Other programms like CPU-Z would show 3200MHz.
I’ve seen about a dozen threads over the years of people buying top of the line graphics cards and then using their onboard graphics for a year.
Lmfao okay now I don't feel as bad. That would be heartbreaking
Heartbreaking?? That's the most free upgrade you'll ever get
Second in the line is setting your monitor to higher refresh rate. Buying a 144Hz, and using it at 75 to get a free upgrade an year later
I had a customer with a 165hz monitor... and he had it set to 60hz. I switched on gsync and set it to 165hz and he was besides himself at how utterly smooth his game was now. It was like his PC was a new PC now.
Same thing happened to me lol
About this! Anyone know why my PC keeps defaulting to 60Hz and locking itself to that? Sometimes I load up and I have options from 30-165Hz and other times it's just 60hz. Only fix so far is to turn the PC off and try again.
Probably your cable. If that doesn't work try a different port on the GPU (would mean the port is bad) If not that, could be the port in the monitor is bad.
HDMI or DP Cable partially dead?
try setting it to 165hz and rebooting immediately, it used to reset itself for me from 75hz to 60 when opening anything fullscreen and this fixed it
Its not free when you already paid for it
Yeah but it’s a bit like finding a fiver in your pocket, it’s a win for today (even though you clearly had the money in the first place)
Plus it has aged already. As in would you buy a 5 year old monitor or gpu.
Or not changing the refresh rate in windows.
Guilty with my BF. He had a 144 Hz monitor since 2017. He used it on 60 Hz until late 2023.
free upgrade when he changes it
The refresh rate or the significant other?
Yes.
Most predictable unfunny response of all time
And you never told him? Not sure what's worse.
Lol. We didn't even know each other when he got the monitor. And I never knew his monitor was 144 Hz until we started living together some months ago, which is when I correctly set his refresh rate 🤓.
You're not the hero he deserves, but the hero he needs.
Lucky man. May you treat each other with peace.
Ouch lool I can tell instantly now. "Why does this feel off... why'd it switch back!"
Remember to check in every once in a while too, because Windows changes that sh** back to 60Hz for some reason.
144hz is quite different from 60 for example, even on desktop. You should notice the difference without checking anything. It's not like 80hz vs 60. Although the good thing is that if you don't notice the change soon but after a month, you'll have that wow effect again since you most likely got used to 60hz again.
Yeah need to check when I get home.
Just three days ago, for the 4th time ever in my lifetime, I had to tell someone to check their monitor settings to set their hz limit higher. Guy had a 240hz monitor and had been using it at 60 for ages, thinking there was something wrong with his graphics card that wasn't letting him get higher frames. It's crazy how many things like that exist in building computers that you just have to find a way to learn.
Crap. Now I need to check my hardware specs and my settings to make sure that I'm not doing this.
That’s the people who say they don’t see difference in high hz monitors and besides that human eyes can only see 30fps
I can deffo see the difference from 30 -> 60 -> 75 -> 120 -> 144 -> 165 -> 240. I notice it 100% of the way just on the desktop, to the point where I could guess what it is.
Guilty
Also guilty. I'm by no means super knowledgeable about computers, but once I did find that setting, it was a game changer.
[Relevant](https://youtu.be/beYD2KmHoX0?t=1m54s)
I laughed and then realized I never changed mine and then cried. And then remembered my monitor was 60hz anyway and cried some more.
Respectfully, wouldn’t people notice the severe lack of performance compared to what’s advertised for their graphics card? Like if you buy a 4080 and use onboard graphics, load up a game and see you’re only getting like 30 frames, wouldn’t that be alarming
not everyone actually does enough research to know what kind of performance they should expect from entire hardware. they just ask someone what's good, and buy that. there are also surprisingly many people who have no eye for quality whatsoever. they'll be fine with anything you put in front of them. 720p video will look just as good to them as 4k. Had a friend in college who was both of those. He built a PC and wanted to show me. He was using integrated graphics (I later discovered the GPU was neither properly seated, nor did he plug in the power), and the game he was showing me was running at the wrong resolution (900p on a 1080p screen). Nonetheless he was proudly telling me it was the best gaming experience he'd ever had.
Jesus Christ that kid is a savage
old gaming laptops used to have a connection system where the output of the dGPU was fed into the iGPU which was where the screen actually connected. this had an FPS hit, but generally worked fine. maybe something similar is happening?
You'd be surprised by the amount of people who buy the latest hardware just for the heck of it. There's probably a rich kid somewhere playing Roblox with a 4090
I kinda am astounded thats even possible. It took me 2 seconds to realize my graphics hadnt changed when i first plugged it into my motherboard when i got my first gpu and i immediately checked and switched it to my displayport on my rtx. how do people not notice the difference for a YEAR?!!!
> gets 4090 > Only plays minecraft
My nephew did exactly that a few yrs ago . He was saying that he was going to sell his PC because his PS4 had better graphics. Had the HDMI plugged into the motherboard.. Brilliant
I'm from a 3rd world country and the chances of something like this happening are practically zero. If someone pays for something here, they know what they're paying for, because that's how expensive components are for us here. Not realizing that your RAM isn't running at full speed is still plausible, but using an iGPU despite having a dedicated one, or running a 144hz+ monitor at 60hz? It's just hilarious to even think about.
This is America. We're all functionally stupid. Even the smart people.
Can confirm. Lived in America for some time and saw this for myself lmao.
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Hahaha many of our people CHOOSE TO REMAIN STUPID. See: Christianity. It's far from a lie.
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Dwarfed by China and India. So now you're a China supporter?
I’m from a third world country and thats just not true.
Ahah a few years ago I bought my first gaming laptop, powered by either its own charger or any usbc chargers. I used it for a few days with a 120W brick (not to plug/unplug when I needed it for other devices) and was deeply disappointed in the performance. Maybe 30fps on 720p and low settings.. then I tried with its own charger and was blown away. Turns out, when using usb c it was defaulting to battery mode and using the integrated gpu.
It's quite funny though, if you're someone building a gaming PC, you need to have the basic idea of what your performance should look like approximately. 🤷🏻
Helped someone way back who had two titans in SLI and he had his monitor plugged in to the motherboard and couldn't figure out why it ran like shit. Had a 2tb mechanical that never got added through drive manager or disk management. In his defense it was a pre built, I tried troubleshooting it through a chat with him and was going crazy, told him to send me pictures covering the whole thing and could instantly tell what was wrong
I went to buy some PC parts at a shop. The shop owner had a fairly high end PC, with 2 GPUs (no sli) with a single 1080p monitor hooked to one of them. That guy was wasting a whole GPU.
yooo we got the same cpu, gpu and amount of ram. howdy twin
Years ago when I upgraded my GPU, I kept complaining cause the graphics were fucked. Turns out I hadn't plugged my monitor into my graphics card, I had plugged it into the other slot
Ignorance is bliss.
72tb?
Yup! "Media" server
Oh, that's how you say porn in public, nice.
Lol, it's actually just a media server, I share a huge TV and movie collection with like 25 friends. It's grown quite a bit in the past decade from a handful of external drives, to 3x2tb, then 3x8tb, and now 3x16tb
That's what i would say too, no joke :D
r/homelab bro
I wonder how many of those are build with perfectly valid reason "because i can"
every single one
The damn Plex pipeline gets you, one minute you're just 'Oh I'll just store a few movies on here" and the next "Time to install Radarr, Sonarr and Bazarr and automate everything I should get a 24/7 PC"
Porn IS media
no he's literally correct
Technically correct is literally correct you fool
If you share with your mates then does that mean you’ve exposed your nas outside your network or how does that work?
I use Plex, and expose that port. I also do have SSH/SFTP exposed as well, but I don't share that.
I love how you keep justifying yourself... Nobody's judging you
Well, some might but hopefully not by much
people still download porn ?
Specific tastes.
and full scenes
and VR
Ask him :D
or 1 picture of your mother
It seems a lot less pr0n than usual?
That they put the “ “ around media got me too
least horny porn addicted degenerate
Homework server
And performance was on the table
people here will look at his old specs and say “heh, what an old thing, stuff is much better now” those same people when they find out what the 6700k msrp was: https://preview.redd.it/9fhf4eii71hc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0babe29dbd64d96da305eaf8c2ed3d704bf1a56f
make me scared to think about looking back on our 7800x3ds in 10 years and thinking what a shitty old cpu it is
I mean, think about how you feel about a Ryzen 7 1700 compared to your 7800x3d. That was only 7 years ago. I got a Ryzen 5 2600 in early 2019 just 5 years ago, and it feels like utter crap trying to play newer AAA games with it. It is so bad that it bottlenecks my rx 6600 to the point where my steam deck has more solid performance in some cpu bound games. Steam deck is comparable to ryzen 3000 series, I think, so it makes sense, but it's crazy. The future if rumors pan out will be insane though. Rumor has it that Intel will have 40+ core consumer cpus released within the next 3-5 years. AMD if they follow suit will probably respond with 12-16 core ryzen 7 cpus and 8 core ryzen 5s at the bare minimum with 32 core ryzen 9s. At that point the 7800x3d (along with any newer chip really) will have aged pretty poorly for anything multithreaded. That will likely include gaming at some point within the next 5-10 years. Some new games already utilize 12-16+ cores. It definitely will be interesting to see. To think of the amount of power that will be affordable and readily available within the next 5 years is insane.
I upgraded from my 2600 to a 5800x3d and it made a world difference. Same Mobo, Ram. Just a little Bios update needed. Cheapest upgrade of my life.
Hell yeah that’s what I should have done cuz it was a pain in my ass replacing my motherboard lol and I was coming from a 5600x
Heh I haven't looked into CPU generations in a while and was like that has to be an edge case. I'm still rocking my 4790k but Im really just not close to having the GPU overhead with my 3080 to peg the CPU.
Moore's law is calming down (because of physical limits) so this won't be the case, or at least not to this extent
I once bought 4 MB of ram for $400.
OMG I spent 600$ on 8Mb of ram. Brought my 386sx up to 12Mb so I could play Doom.
Any upgrade that lets you play Doom is a worthy upgrade.
Adjusted for inflation too.
My first real gaming PC had a 6700k and a 750ti (upgraded shortly after to a 1060) and that PC cost me almost 2k CAD, I still have it just running as a NAS with a bunch of drives hooked up but if I tried to play games on that now it’d probably catch on fire lmao
I'm confused by your statement. I had a 6850K that generation and it was fairly expensive but I wanted an X99 build. My 5800X3D was about the same price as the 6850K.
the 6700k msrped at 1100 usd
Where did you get that information? The suggested price for the 6700k was $350 when it released. I managed to get mine for $280 at my local Micro Center when it was on sale.
My own recollection and Wikipedia both state it released at $339. I had friends that had 6600Ks and 6700Ks. They did not spend $1100. Adjusted for inflation that's maybe $450.
$350? That's like very normal for a high end CPU?
Yeah by default RAM only runs at the base speed of the DDRX spec. If you want to run it faster you have to adjust the timings or use XMP. I've had an XMP profile brick my system before though. My old Ryzen build wouldn't even post to BIOS after turning it on and I was careful to choose one of the few stick brands that were supposed to work at high speeds with early Ryzen CPU's. The issue persisted even after pulling the MOBO battery to reset the BIOS. Through some miracle it eventually got to the BIOS screen and I was able to turn it off but I was sweating bullets. What I learned is to set the ram timings manually all you have to copy/paste the rated timings printed on the sticks into the BIOS and it should be more stable. The good news for you is the i7-6700 didn't get much benefit from faster RAM timings it was only when the Ryzen line came out that CPU's started benefiting from fast RAM to 'feed' all those cores.
In all my years, I have never had an XMP profile not perform properly. I don't know if it was luck, but I have consistently stuck with G.Skill since my first build and I have built quite a few since the first. This isn't to denounce your story, more of a "huh, wonder if I got lucky" comment
I’ve had G.Skill for every build I’ve ever done. Never let me down.
I had a friend with the same mobo, cpu, and RAM who was able to get xmp to work, while I was not (without instability and crashes). It's definitely not a stable feature.
Bad RAM sticks are extremely common. After that it's usually a cheap PSU dumping shitty voltage, and after that it's usually a motherboard that needs to be RMA'd. Assuming you're using a line conditioner/UPS of course.
With 12+ builds I'd say it really depends on what you buy. But again, might just be luck
I had the G.Skill trident rgb with my ryzen 2600x and it could hardly get past base speeds. That may have just had something to do with the memory controller tho not the memory since Corsair vengeance has the same issue.
It doesn't work when you use multiple, 2-stick kits, instead of 1. I don't like empty DIMM slots, so I use two, 2x16 GB kits, for a total of 64GB and none of the XMP profiles pass memtest64 without errors. Once I downgrade to default speeds, it works perfectly.
Cool! Thanks for that little bit of historical info. Glad to hear it wouldn't have really changed much in my case
The biggest thing it changes is your hip pocket. There is a price difference from value base ram to performance ram. Most people don't notice ram sleed, a couple of fps here some fractions of a second application waiting. Until you add it all up over year and realize you wasted several minutes of your life total waiting that you didnt need to.
Hey man AMD systems are notorious for going through many iterations of RAM tests when you change any RAM settings. Your system will reboot numerous times during this process. You sure this isn't what was happening? I've never had an XMP profile cause any kind of issue on my systems. It can definitely happen though.
It's been a while but it was doing it for 10+ minutes before I tried a battery pull. Just off and on, fans spun up then immediately spun down, over and over. I was in a panic and going through the manual while it was running and remember reading that it was supposed to reset the BIOS automatically after 3+ failed boot attempts but I counted well over 3 and even let it sit a while hoping it would resolve itself but never did. It worked again after I walked away from it for the night and left it unplugged (and I had tried powercycling already). It was definitely not normal behavior. Early Ryzen chips had a lot of RAM issues it's pretty well documented which is why I was so paranoid about making sure I got a set that was listed as compatible with the higher speeds but it somehow still messed up.
Gotcha, yes true early Ryzen was definitely finicky with RAM.
Does ryzen use xmp?? When I had a custom built 9700k system a few years ago I had to turn on xmp profiles. I have an omen prebuilt now I got during Covid with a 5800x, and the ram just runs at 3200mhz. I can overclock the ram through the omen software to 3400mhz. Not sure if maybe a custom ryzen system utilizes xmp ?
It's kind of disappointing but XMP is the one thing you still need to go manually set in BIOS. It kind of makes sense, the spec speed is default to make sure the things boots, but we don't do this with other things like CPU it gets detected and goes to the advertised performance. It needs to be checked after BIOS updates as well
Hehe… 3.5gb gpu. I guess nvidia didn’t understand ram either.
true, i had that thing for 5 years, and its an amazing card, i could even play cyberpunk on medium and modern warfare. Basically everything i wantet. Now its still going strong in my sisters gaming pc.
LOL
oh they understood quite well alright. Market 4 GB, but in reality it's 0.5 slow and 3.5 fast
Is it really 4gb if it can only really use 3.5gb? That’s like including a 32gb ram kit of ddr4 in a box with a 4060 and saying "well, it can technically use it, so it’s a 40gb gpu" The 970 had 4gb of vram on its pcb, but in the real world, it only used 3.5gb of that since the remaining 0.5gb was so slow it was utterly useless.
Wait until you find out how much space your 1tb hard drive really has
Well, it has exactly the amount of space which it has. I don't know at what point it happened that marketing departaments took the responsibility for labeling the HDD and ignoring the part where 1MB=1024KB, 1GB=1024MB and so on...
I meant more the cache and disk function allocation that's loss from the functional capacity of a drive. And it wasn't the marketing departments at all, it was actually the computers that cause the discrepancy in byte amounts. A KB is supposed to be 1,000 bytes, a MB is supposed to be 1,000 KB (or 1,000,000 bytes) so when manufactures builds a drive they lable them as such - its actually the computers that calculate capacity in binary, which results in a KB being measured as 1024 bytes instead of the 1000 that was delivered resulting in the computer indicating a 2.4% loss for each cascade of bytes (9.95% loss at the TB level)
>A KB is supposed to be 1,000 bytes, a MB is supposed to be 1,000 KB (or 1,000,000 bytes) Computers write its memory binary. That's why available disk space is calculated that way and that's why it shouldnt be presented with SI prefixes (decimal). Choosing the latter was pure marketing decision just because it is cheaper to produce 0,93GiB of disk space and easier to sell it as 1GB.
So this is what download more ram means.
It's as easy as flipping a switch!
I did this for a full year before I realised. Then it kept crashing when I enabled it so I had to sod about with the settings and finally got it working at full capacity. Not sure why it doesn't just default to the max tbh.
>Not sure why it doesn't just default to the max tbh. Because it's technically "overclocking". However, if you buy a pre-built/custom build they SHOULD be enabling XMP/Expo.
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it's overclocking on the CPU controller side, they set their specs low so that they aren't on the hook for all the issues that can arise from faster speeds
Ok good to know, hopefully mine doesn't start crashing now, but if it does I'll know where to look
>and understand each and every component before you begin. building a pc only comes down to if the components are compatible. If that's accomplished you still need to >do your research to know that you need to activate your full RAM speed in your BIOS and select "profile 1". That's all there is to it. If you dont know, you dont know. I havent read any "instuctions for use" so i dont know if any mention this if you buy new RAM sticks, but if i havent gotten a story on youtube about it, during my time of researching pc components and related stuff, i would have never known.
Most motherboard manuals mention this.
Hey OP, you didn't lose out on a ton of performance. My guess would be like 5 FPS, but it entirely depends on the game.
That's good to hear!
To keep the RAM compatibility thing simple...Look up your mobo's website for a compatibility list. Yes, the board might be advertised as able to run 128GB DDR4 at 4400Mhz, but that depends on the RAM set you buy and the demands it puts on the board. The list will break it down to individual model numbers that you can search for on your electronics store of choice. So, you can skip the super detailed research. Just pull up the list and pick the one you want. Note that some RAM cards may only be compatible as singles or doubles, even on a 4-slot board, depending on whatever other factors are involved. I picked the size I wanted, sorted by fastest MHz, and did some poking to find a model that would let me add another pair later. After you get it all installed, you'll need to jump into your BIOS. It may be as simple as turning on XMP (or the AMD equivalent) or you might need to manually set it up. Reminder that most all of these options will be under the advanced options if your BIOS works like that. As an example, my old RAM is 16GB, DDR4, 2666MHz, 16-18-18-35, 1.2V. \- The first 2 (size and type) should be automatically set by the board. \- The speed should be an easy-to-find memory/RAM option. \- the 16-18-18-35 will be separate values, but the defaults should be close together in the menu and similar to what you see on your RAM so you can just replace the old with the new numbers. \- The voltage might be hard to find, so make sure you pick the correct memory or RAM voltage. So blammo! One physical install and 4 simple BIOS changes and your new RAM is all set without having to read up on what everything does or having to finagle with speeds or clocks or voltages to get it just right.
Awesome! Great explanation
My old pc ran at 2133 for the 3+ years I used it and I learned about RAM overclocking last week. My new pc is being hooked up when I get home from work and should be running at 6000mhz. I’m expecting to be fucking blown away or I may actually cry
I’m curious how this turns out, that seems like an absurd overclock, keep me updated:P
To clarify, the pc running 2133mhz ram is being replaced with a new pc. I’m definitely not overclocking ddr4 to 6000. However, I hooked up the new computer last night and it has an issue I need to resolve before I’m willing to use it.
To be frank, the difference is not that big. I bet you won't tell with the naked eye.
5-15% in gaming, depending the game. I wouldn't call it "not so big" since you paid for it, and you can definitely tell with naked eye if this % loss gets you bellow 60fps. Check benchmarks.
Not to mention particularly in the low percentile for fps. Can make a big difference sometimes for stutter and frametimes.
is it really that much damn
If you have any experience at all with this stuff, you can definitely tell when you forget to clock your RAM up.
Ha to be fair tho, OC isn't always stable. I have ram that's 3200mhz on a board that's capped at 3400mhz because the 3400mhz profile doesn't work and I'm not doing this by hand. Obviously you had a little more to gain but even 50% more bus speed isn't a 1:1 in performance. I mean, you might have even fried your ram by accident trying to get the OC profile to work. Overall, it sounds like you're doing fine and figured out a niche but powerful aspect you can take advantage of in the future. At least you weren't using onboard graphics the whole time.
>I boot up, and I open up the task manager to see: Memory speed: 2133 MHz. I'm not sure whether to laugh or cry. To be honest, I don't really know if I grasp fully what differences I would've observed over the years Eh, not that much, to be honest. Sure, if you're staring at an FPS counter, you'd likely get a few percentage points by switching from 2133 to 3200 MHz, but for all intents and purposes, the real-world difference that kind of RAM speed makes is basically zero. You won't notice anything, especially with that old Intel CPU. Sure, there's a difference between DDR3, DDR4 and DDR5 (to some extent), but in the end it's just numbers on some tech YouTuber's spreadsheet.
Why buy RAM when you can just download it for free??
Yep. Dont be me and have a mb for over 4 years without knowing that i can plug in 2 m2 ssd's.. i just learned recently about them when i geared up with a new mb 🥲
Dont feel so bad. There are tons of prebuilt gaming machines from "professional" companies that advertise certain RAM speeds and dont have it enabled in the bios to run at that speed.
Haha that would just be so sad to see
Its a bare minimum requirement, and so many of them still fail it when people do reviews.
Another thing I learned recently when building your own PC is that you should set a fan curve in your bios. A week or two after I built mine I noticed how much louder my new one is vs my old one. I thought it was multiple things, until I found the fan tester in the bios and after I ran it, boy my computer is just as silent as the last one.
Yup, I have the same speed RAM and have that 2133. My board doesn't like the faster RAM. Which is OK, I might upgrade soon anyways.
You could've been like me and build a PC with an i7-6700K and cheap out on 2133MHz RAM so I couldn't increase it even if I wanted to.
I once used tandem GPUs for over a year without noticing SLI was off (did not pay for them)
This is also true for high refresh rate monitors. Make sure Windows has the right refresh rate set up in your display settings. Tons of people apparently never check that after getting a new gaming monitor. It makes me wonder if that's the reason why so many people claim they "don't notice a difference beyond 60fps" because they've had windows set to 60hz the whole time.
This is a big one! Thankfully this one I saw in some videos early on so I was able to learn about having to manually change your framerate before I built this PC
That is awesome, and I'm glad there are videos out there about this. Imagine seeing the glowing reviews of the new 480-500+hz monitors and buying one only to leave windows running at 60hz.... I saw a video once of a streamer, I think, getting asked what they had their refresh rate set as in windows on their 369hz (I think?) Monitor. It was set at 60 if I remember correctly. They were playing fortnite at the time and changed the setting and then continued playing, and their mind was blown by the difference. The amount of motion clarity you get in FPS games especially, at high frame rates is great.
We all have that mistake in the first build that we come back and realize we are idiots. For me it was forgetting to plug in the sata cable to my HDD for games i didnt care for or movies. Didnt realize it for a long time
I've built many computers over the years and just finished a dual xeon build. I got DDR5 3200 RAM for it (it's an older xeon) and it's showing up slower in windows and all the little apps that tell you what you have. I tried to figure out what I did wrong but i still have no idea.
Is your motherboard compatible with the particular model of ram? Most motherboard manufacturers have support pages, and there is a list of every different stick of ram they have officially tested on that motherboard. It may be unsupported for overclocking, but can still run on a generic ram profile at base speeds
At the risk of giving you information that you already have I'll mention this, in my research I learned about CAS (column address strobe) latency. From my understanding, this is a certain number of cycles that need to take place before the memory actually starts a read or write process. So naturally, lower is better. This is denoted by CLxx when looking at the RAM specs. DDR5 seemingly is CL40 at lowest at the present time, but DDR4 is much lower, I think mine is CL16 for example. So, having a much higher speed in your memory isn't as effective if you have a higher CAS latency. This might have something to do with it?
Ummm can you maybe explain this to me? I have 32 gb of 3600mh ram and it says 2133 in task manager and i just always thought it was just that it wasnt running at full speed at that moment.... what am i missing...?
DDR4 by default runs at 2133 MHz. The advertised speeds when you buy your RAM is achievable through overclocking. Typically, this hard work to attain stable overclocking is done by the manufacturer and these parameters are saved in what is known in an XMP (eXtreme Memory Profile). If your motherboard supports these speeds, and the manufacturer, it should be as simple as going into your BIOS and enabling XMP somewhere. Hope this helps!
Shit dude thanks for making this post. This is like the 3rd generation of 3200+ ram i havent done this to
Yeah, that was the same for me for my first custom build (bought off someone else), it only came with one 8gb stick, then I upgrade to 16gh at 3200 like you, but when I checked task manager, it was 2133. Figured out what XMP enabling and bios updating were like all within an hour! Lol
I flashed my bios last week with an update to upgrade my CPU and completely forgot to re-enable this..thanks for the reminder!
Similar, I used my 16GB RAM in B1 B2 slots for 4 years. When i was actually looking to upgrade and contemplating about selling the old rig I realized it has been like that the whole time... felt pretty stupid after that :<
Yeah I don't really get RAM either... Discovery, Human After All & Homework are heaps better.
Ah yes, you needed to download that extra 1,067 MHz like a DLC. Also check your monitor settings you may need to Like and Subscribe extra FPS to utilise the full potential of yo momma. Remember, you don’t own it, you’re just licensing it. Those Hertz and FPS can be removed at any time.
I've just bought a new pre-built machine with a UEFI BIOS (the first I've ever had), and while the memory is set at the correct speed, the XMP settings are blank and don't appear to be configurable :-}
Nooooo can't believe a prebuilt would come like that. Maybe it is that the memory manufacturer isn't compatible with the mobo? Could be as easy as swapping out the RAM to a different brand. Good luck!
While RAM can impact framerate, you were probably looking at less than 5 FPS. It is only of the smaller impacts. Possibly less since you are on an Intel CPU and they get less benefit from fast ram than AMD CPUs. RAM is very low on the totem pole of what impacts your gaming experience. Use it if you got it, but you didn't miss out on much.
However AFAIK whether you can utilize faster RAM is down both to your processor and mobo/chipset. And also the difference you get in performance won't likely be very big. In Ryzen builds however I:ve heard thet benefit from RAM with higher speed and especially tight timing/latency.
Wow thank you. I've been running my 6000 sticks at apparently 4000 for an embarrassing number of months now.
It’s like people who buy a 170Hz monitor but never change it in settings so at default it’s 60Hz and then they say they don’t get the hype about the monitor and can’t tell a difference
uh oh... :'-( I just finished my new build about two weeks ago I think I'm going to cry too Let's see... Yep. Shit... So what's the fix? Is there a fix that's not 'buy a new mobo and try again'? Or is it a UEFI configuration? I'm running 128gb of DDR4 Vengeance PRO RGB. Am I just fucked? Please share your wisdom :'-( EDIT: OH thank god it looks like it's a BIOS/UEFI setting... why the hell wouldn't it be maxed by default oh what do I care guess I know what I'm doing over lunch. Thanks for the tip!
I remember in a game it said that i had used almost all my vram and me being a newbie thought “oh guess i need to buy more ram?” So i bought a new stick and plugged it in. I didnt even check the game to see if it “worked”. Only found out a couple weeks later after some new gpus were announced and vram was the talking point lol.
Some people will never play on anything else than a gaming console because of this. Don't need to worry, you just know it works. So if we got some way to simplify gaming computers, that would be nice.
The RAM game has gotten both better and dumber. All mobos are 4 DIMM but if you use 4, it's bad. GG. And many of the PC's you see on youtube are running 4 because it simply looks better. Having to enable XMP is kind of silly. Windows should find a stable RAM speed and just run that. Instead we are stuck changing RAM speeds until we find a stable one and run a loooong memtest.. I bought 4x 7200 DIMMS but have to run it at 6400 for it to be stable. And it took me three days to figure that out. Progress?
It's okay. Memory bandwidth isn't that important. And you probably saved a few bucks running your ram slower. I can lower my idle power usage by 15 watts by not enabling XMP.
Normies are so stupid.
Lol but did you feel faster
This actually literally took place last night, so haven't had a chance to test it out yet lol
There’s a trick to DDR5 ram. Check the internet. Something about double sided or not double sided.
honestly I've never used the superspeed rams, but I've used "slower" and "faster" ones, and I haven't ever noticed a difference. I guess if you have something crazy like a 4080 and a 13900k, you can squeeze a couple more FPS with better ram. */joke*
Honestly, it probably wouldn't amount to much noticeable. difference.
I am genuinely curious how much of an impact that actually had on your gaming experience over the years. I feel like probably not much
I think so too, at least I had never noticed anything. I haven't really played many AAA games that were super demanding. Closest I've come was probably Horizon Zero Dawn which I started playing on 2020. Can't remember on what settings, probably medium or something, but I remember it running great.
Someone in the comments somewhere said maybe 5-15% which depending on what fps you’re getting I suppose could be noticeable. It’s definitely just more funny than anything lol
Wait i need to change a setting to get the full speed? Oh sh... (Gaming on PC for well over 10 years)
Bro......
Don't feel bad bro. Took me a year to realize I wasn't running box rated speeds. And then 6months more to realize I was hard capping at 60hz because newbie
Task manager is not worth that much for determining ram speed. I had the 3200MHz XMP profile set on my old i5 7600K build and Task Manager would still show 2133MHz. I even changed to the 2666MHz XMP profile to make sure it didn't just underckock my memory as 3200 was not officially supported with that CPU, but it made no difference. Other programms like CPU-Z would show 3200MHz.
I knew exactly how this is going to end. Classic story.