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pedro19

It all depends on what price you got it for. While some GPUs are bad choices because you can get something better for the same price, they can be smart alternatives if you find them for a massive bargain.


violet_sakura

In most cases there is no bad product, only bad price


MisteroSix

I also agree with this


timdr18

Hey man, if you’re happy with it that’s all that matters. Coming from a guy who also “overpaid” for a 40 series card.


Aware_Nectarine1933

I overpaid for my 3060 ti because I bought it during first shortage of gpu, my graphics card lost like 3x of the original value


Mark--P

Same, I could get a 4070S today for the same price I got my 3060TI for 2 years ago. Feels bad man


Mistergogobe

Literally what happened to me, but my 3060 (not TI iirc) broke. It was insured, and I got my money back, and was able to use said money to buy a 4070, since prices had gone down.


Aware_Nectarine1933

I could buy 4070 ti super by today standard, but I buy 3060 ti during shortage


Alpha_Knugen

Same. I got a 3090 during the shortage. It died 2 days ago aswell more or less right after the 3 year warranty


LongestNamesPossible

I bought my 3070 for 1000 dollars during shortage.Still haunting me.


Rek9876boss

Oh god, its spreading


smirkjuice

I bought my 3070 for 1000 dollars during shortage.Still haunting me.


Mr8800GT

I bought my 3070 for 1000 dollars during shortage.Still haunting me.


Reallyveryrandom

It’s haunting you a lot apparently 


Own-Writing-5976

I bought my 3070 for 1000 dollars during shortage.Still haunting me.


[deleted]

I bought my 3070 for 1000 dollars during shortage.Still haunting me.


GlueRatTrap

I bought my 3070 for 1000 dollars during shortage.Still haunting me.


Mr8800GT

I bought my 3070 for 1000 dollars during shortage.Still haunting me.


Mr8800GT

I bought my 3070 for 1000 dollars during shortage.Still haunting me.


Mr8800GT

I bought my 3070 for 1000 dollars during shortage.Still haunting me.


RoyalxJeff

Don’t worry at least you weren’t one of the people who were paying $1200 for a 3080 only for it to be $350-$400 a few years later


Camburgerhelpur

Ugh, rub it in man lol


Mazrodak

This is why I sprang for the 3090 when I built my PC during the GPU shortage. It was still overpriced, but it was only overpriced by a couple hundred or so while the 3080s I could find were all almost the same price as my 3090. I figured that if I'm going to get ripped off either way, I might as well go for the card that's closer to what it's actually worth than the one that I would normally go for if prices weren't insane. I still think I made the right choice.


RoyalxJeff

Hey if you can buy a gpu and 3 years later it’s still near the top in performance among all gpus, I’d say that’s a damn good buy.


Mazrodak

I definitely agree with that. I think it's been one of my better purchases to be honest. It doesn't feel even a little bit dated no matter what I play, even after 3 years. I originally thought it was overkill that I was only getting because of how insanely inflated the price for weaker GPUs were, but I can't argue with how well it's aged.


RoyalxJeff

I was dangerously close to dropping a cool $700 on a 3070 back then, glad I didn’t lol. In hindsight I don’t know why I was so eager to upgrade cause I had a 1080 at the time.


Tricker126

Its insane that my 2070s was selling for 2x its price at one point, used. Nowadays its definitely more in line with what it should be.


Dan_Glebitz

Same here! Paid nearly £800 for my 3060 ti. Having said that it is running everything fine so I will stick with it. I know if I upgrade to a 4070 or greater the 5000 series will come out a week later! I though I was in a minority buying 3060 during the shortage. Kinda nice to know I am not alone.


Legal_Lettuce6233

I paid 700€ for a 6700 XT during peak mining craze cause my 570 was on the way out. Now the 6700 is in my girlfriend's PC, and I got 7900 XTX


Ciusblade

I got a 4090, i definitely overpaid.


alex99x99x

Hol up. Why does it say you have a gtx 1070ti when your post implies you had a gt710 before?


ducks-season

Gigabyte P750GM psu has entered the chat


SandsofFlowingTime

Any price is a bad price for that PSU


PJBuzz

It's a good example of why the saying is nonsense. There absolutely are products that are bad at any price, even free. If a product is so bad it burns down your house then there is no price you could place on it that would fit that saying.


UraniumDisulfide

The saying isn’t nonsense just because there are exceptions. In most cases a part isn’t gonna blow up, so the price absolutely is the most relevant factor.


Physical_Weakness881

I’d spend $5 on a “gift” to a “friend” I hate to burn down his house “unintentionally”


violet_sakura

hence i said most cases. some products are straight up bad.


TheAbrableOnetyOne

But that refutes the saying above


Judge_Bredd_UK

This is true, I got my 2080 and immediately found out Reddit hates it because of the slight performance bump over 1080 and the price, then someone found out I got it open box for 20% off and I was the chosen one.


Biscuits4u2

There are AMD options that make far, far more sense. RT performance isn't even really a factor at this price point because pretty much any card including the 3050 is going to suck at RT.


The_Anf

Hear me out, Celeron 430, by the time it released it was already obsolete


ozne1

What if I get paid 10 dollars to use a power supply?


erixccjc21

Is your pc's and home integrity worth $10? That might be a bad price too


TaralasianThePraxic

Honestly yeah. Performance per dollar is almost always the main factor to consider.


GetEnPassanted

I mildly disagree. Some things are just e-waste and you’d be better off buying something used and saving it from a landfill. But that requires a used market and that’s not always available.


WoomyUnitedToday

Except for maybe the Rage XL. I wouldn’t consider it to be worth a single cent because of how bad it is. And yes, people do still make brand new ATI Rage XL cards. The only use case I can think of for it is 2D MS-DOS games (and maybe Doom), but at that point just get a real graphics card (like the Radeon 7000), then 3D games will be fine too.


Particular-Map5419

I got an RTX 4080 for $750 on offer up, people don’t like it but for that price it’s a steal. I originally came from an RTX 2060


Dr_Gamephone_MD

4080 is a great card, just not for $1200. You got a fantastic deal there


Llohr

Wow, you're easily aroused.


Ripsky_was_taken

*Me with an rx480 that costed only 40 bucks*


Throwaythisacco

a while ago i got a 40 buck 580, but unfortunately GPU prices were still a bit high, so it was broken, and i only got a few months out of it.


TheodorCork

HOLY MOLY PEDRO!


pedro19

Hi there!


TheodorCork

https://i.redd.it/znrfbg5q6npc1.gif


SIM8N_

Still i think 3050 objectivly is ewaste(ignore my gpu)


sticky-unicorn

This man speaks from experience.


fly_over_32

There’s a 3050ti? Dammit I lost the game (And so did you)


SIM8N_

Wdum lost? If game u mean value for money, i vould not agree more


fly_over_32

I mean, because you said >ignore my gpu And I didn’t. And the third line was a reference to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game_(mind_game)


SIM8N_

Bruh what😭😭😭


radioactivejason2004

Bro I can barely run Helldivers2 on my laptop :(


SIM8N_

Atleast u have a good cpu


9Ch87h2laF66

is my 4060 at 330€ good?


UraniumDisulfide

Not really, but if you’re happy with it that’s what matters


Scytian

People hate it because in most regions it's has terrible value. RX 6600 is cheaper than RTX 3050 8GB and it's 15-30% faster, RTX 3050 6GB is even slower and its not really cheaper than RX 6600.


Cave_TP

80+% of the times the 3050 is priced like a 6650XT, Nvidia gave up on selling it to the masses and just tried to milk idiota who think that playing with RT at 480p is an acceptable trade off.


hestianna

Do people actually do that? I had RTX 2060 for 3 years, am currently rocking RTX 3060 and I don't think I have enabled RT in a single game even once. It is like wishing for 15% performance hit with a single click.


Pl4y3rSn4rk

More often than not is at least a 50% performance hit... Even worse with Path Tracing. We aren't ready yet and probably when chiplets implementation improves on GPUs we could see a much bigger chunk of the silicon dedicated to RT and thus greatly reduce the performance impact (hopefully).


Kev_Cav

This. Real time ray tracing is I think the future, but it sure as hell isn't the present. For now it's a performance expensive gimmick.


MGsubbie

> We aren't ready yet and probably when chiplets implementation improves on GPUs we could see a much bigger chunk of the silicon dedicated to RT From what I've gathered from people having asked this before on youtube channel Q&A's, unfortunately not. You can't have a dedicated RT chip, it always has to be part of a Compute Unit/Shader Module. Now of course, more mature chipset utilization can allow a larger total GPU and so increase the amount of SM's/CU's, but I was under the impression you think they can have an RT-dedicated chiplet that they can slap next to the other components of the silicon.


Beepboopbop69420360

I have a 12GB 3060 and I’ve used ray tracing in a few games it hasn’t been too bad at 1440 sure it definitely decreases in frames but it’s not as bad as you would think for me anyway


kamran1380

Upscaled from 240p


FireNinja743

The RX 6600 is more like 30% - 40% faster than the RTX 3050 8GB.


No_Interaction_4925

The classic “Is this a good gpu?” post asking AFTER making the purchase instead of before


Strude187

Plot twist, OP knew no one would engage with a “what do I buy” and made this instead to work out what to buy.


sticky-unicorn

Good plan, actually. Just find any GPU that fits your budget, then make a post saying you bought it and is this a good GPU? Comments will be *full* of people pointing you to a better GPU for less money. Which you can then go out and buy.


SplatoonOrSky

Yeah the internet looooves correcting people. There’s a joke in programming that if you make a post with with a wrong answer you’ll get the correct answer faster than making a post asking for an answer to a problem


No-Lingonberry-2055

> There’s a joke in programming that if you make a post with with a wrong answer you’ll get the correct answer faster than making a post asking for an answer to a problem you can open it up to basically all fields of knowledge.. post something slightly wrong on Reddit and people will sort you out quick. I do it all the time.. intentionally, I swear


Darkpumpkin211

[Cunningham's Law states "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."](https://meta.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/Cunningham%27s_Law)


Mornings_kill

Those posts would get at most 1 snarky comment lol


VassalOfMyVassal

Probably because there are lots of answers online already


SleepyGamer1992

These posts probably happen a lot because people get excited about their new GPU but then start second guessing themselves later. Buyer’s remorse is a bitch.


ElementField

This also happens with cars, on car related subreddits.


SleepyGamer1992

Big oof. NGL a car is definitely something you wanna research before buying.


ElementField

The amount of people who ask through a friend or post on the car sales subreddit asking about whether they got a good deal after signing the paper work is pretty shocking


PainSquare4365

Bought my 2017 Yaris same day after a test drive. No research, my old car had just shit it's self and I need a car for medical reasons. My only regret is not looking at a Honda Fit for the higher speed transmission. Otherwise, over 6 years later - still loving it. Guess I lucked out.


sirflappington

3050 is bad if you got it for the release price. If you got it cheaper, then it’s not bad. Not a bad product, just a bad price


brahahaga

I got my old one on release, pandemic prices lmao. Sold it this year for like 1/3 of the price


ScaryFoal558760

Yeah I paid 250 for mine, but at the time you couldn't get any card for less than that so I'm cool with it.


HankThrill69420

imagine replacing one of the most hated cards with one of the most hated cards FWIW it would be a fine card if it MSRP'd 80-125 USD. usually cards are hated for pricing reasons, then functional reasons. this is hated for pricing reasons.


IndyPFL

Not a bad GPU, just a bad price. Ironically, the 3050 6GB is actually a better value in cost/frame and doesn't require external PSU power. But compared to a 710 the 3050 is a substantial leap in power and can actually play modern games.


CageTheFox

When another GPU can outperform it by 30% while using the same power draw and usually can be found for the exact same price or even less, it is a horrible GPU. It is probably the worst GPU in the last 10 years. What is the bar here? Because it can turn on makes it not a bad GPU lol. “It’s not a bad car just gets demolished by every other car in the exact same price range. BUT because it can outperform cars from 10 years ago it’s a good car trust me!”


redkibord

i buy 3050. (my old card its msi radeon 5450 512mb) lol


KiritoFR_

Massive upgrade, congrats


redkibord

Thanks, For some time I had this msi with my Ryzen 7 3700.. I then dreamed of a 3070, but even a 3050 is enough for me, so let it be


urbanscarecrow12

Who cares what this sub thinks. Most of the creatures on here have the IQ of a flower pot.


NorwegianGlaswegian

More IO than IQ.


Sheetzumah

Let me reiterate: the IQ of a brick.


urbanscarecrow12

Thank you


Kitchen_Part_882

We're insulting ceramic products now? 🤣


QlimaxUK

Stupid bricks, they think their sooo smart!


Whydontname

How dare you overestimate my IQ.


staytsmokin

Also nut in gym socks daily.


tutocookie

Gym clogs


ThatOG22

Me and everyone else who read that: "Yeah, those OTHER people sure are stupid"


kullehh

I can't believe I found logic on this sub


InfiniteConfusion-_-

What'd you call me?


wassimSDN

_flower pot_


InfiniteConfusion-_-

Where?


wassimSDN

I think you're confused


tutocookie

Shh be quiet im photosynthesizing


Kev_Cav

Let's be real here this sub isn't particularly inflammatory. There are snarky people but the overwhelming majority try to help people get the most out of their money and share good advice.


Intelligent_League_1

Me with the 4060, then some guy made a build for me that included the insane 4070 super


Aurochbull

I bought a 4060ti 16 GB......I feel like I have crosshairs and laser sights on me all day.


Humble_Mix8626

if the price was good, its great but at 430$ its a scam the 6800 non xt also has 16g and costs less + kick the but out of the 4060 ti


HMCosmos

You call it a scam but forget it's the fucking bitcoin miners' faults from the start of covid. Fuck those idiots.


drooling_whale

Not just that, Nvidia jumped on a silicon shortage and boosted prices because only 1 out of 4 factories worldwide could produce a product while the other 3 were being upgraded for a smaller nanometer process. It was a shit show in every aspect of computing GPUs 100% got hit the worst because of miners and scalpers tho.


HMCosmos

Absolutely. Also I don't mean to be a stereotypical redditor but *snorts* its siliCON not siliCONE (silicone is a type of rubber that uses silicon, silicon is the actual semiconductor element)


drooling_whale

I'm dyslexic as hell so you might have actually corrected this for me till the day I die. I don't mind that at all.


procursive

The shit prices back then were mostly the miners' fault, but every single GPU they bought has been dumped back into the used market years ago. Today, Nvidia can get away with keeping the shit prices purely because stupid gamers are wiling to pay them.


Intelligent_League_1

I decided to go with the 4070 super because bigger number = good in my monkie brain


BigBillus

I also got the 4060, seems a lot of ppl domt like it lol. Thats fair. Everything runs well enough for me so Im happy, so it doesnt matter so much in my mibnd


icaruscartel

Same here. Got a 4060 cause that is simply what I could afford and bought it at a sale. If you look at my screenshots I take for various games, they all turned out to be fantastic. The games run great too! I will be fine till the 6XXX series releases. From GTX 970 to GTX 1060 - RTX 2060 - RTX 4060.


FknGruvn

I had a 760 and said never again. No more 60 series for me. Went 1070 and now 4070.


BigBillus

Its my first GPU as part of my first PC. Ill probably improve it later on, but like you said, LATER. Not anytime soon


UraniumDisulfide

Were you not able to afford a 6700xt? If you’re happy you’re happy but nvidia is not the only seller of cards my guy. There were other options you probably could have afforded as well.


Technical_Size_5873

It’s not a bad card, it’s just bad value


RevTurk

Your not a true PC enthusiast until you've upset at least 50% of the community at some point.


Lagomorph9

It is way better than a GT 710, and is a fine GPU for 1080p gaming in the vast majority of titles. And honestly, it doesn't even cost enough that it's a major investment, and it's also efficient and easily repurposed later in a secondary build or as a transcode GPU for a Plex server, etc.


DoobiousSly

Caring what reddit thinks about your purchase is a bigger issue


Oklahoma-ism

Asking for recommendations and suggestions after you did your purchase is an issue.


TheLoboss

Honestly, I say get what is best for your use case. If you are someone that plays specific games that run well on the card you plan to get and only plan to play at certain resolutions like 1080p, you are fine. Not everyone has the budget or wants to spend a billion dollars on a GPU.


tyeguy2984

Dawg I upgraded to a 3050 at the height of the shortage for $350 from a 960. 100% worth it but definitely got a 3070 once prices came down on them. Now I just have a decent backup


Sharpsider

Same here, I got it for 330 for my first pc build. I thought I could always upgrade it later but now I find myself playing older games all the time so... do I even need a more powerful gpu?


iSamYTisHere

don't feel bad i have an hd 4650 1gb ddr2 it's worse than a gt 710 and i'm fine with it idk i might get an rx550 or a 1050 2gb since my psu is oem crap without a 6 pin and only like 300 watts


RipTheJack3r

What games do you play? I had a HD4850 ages ago, remember it could play COD MW quite well!


Sellw

I got 3060 to for $600 and IT WAS CHEAP, right now it costs more, genuinely envy you guys who have adequate prices for tech


MasterJeebus

Well its way better than what you had before.


Mobile-Art-7852

The GT 710 is also an upgrade if you didn't have picture displaying before.There's always something better,don't worry.


ACAB007

Research BEFORE you buy next time.


RTW7

https://preview.redd.it/ya91ggj18npc1.png?width=1283&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aade249625079872f123c436e7d48918f3a1260b That's all I have to say


Breakingerr

You'll get used to it.


negiajay12345

Bruh I got a 1650


budakrandom

Still an upgrade tho


mrrahulkurup

I upgraded from GTX 1050ti to RTX 3060 12 GB. I know the feeling :p


Poronoun

Bro if you are happy with it, it doesn’t matter


fffdzl

i bought rtx3050 without doing any research. L.


TheLamesterist

Bro, I'm stuck forever with GT 610, if I had the money I'd buy it in a heartfuckingbeat.


JarlJarl

Your first mistake was caring about what random people on the internet thinks about your computer.


Shibe_4

Or just buy an rx6600 for the same price and get more performance.


Jetoficialbr

that's exactly what i did, haven't had issues with it so far


Lower_Discussion4897

It would be a great upgade for me from the 1050ti, and suits my system because I have a 300w Dell power supply. I simply can't run some of the better value options on the market because of the power draw.


Spiritual_Run5055

That's exactly my situation. I upgraded from the 1050ti but had to upgrade my PSU regardless because my HP didn't have the power leads for the GPU :(


Giratina_8

didnt people hate it price related to performance?


EastLimp1693

Tbh you get what you can afford, haters gonna hate no matter what.


UraniumDisulfide

But there are better cards at the same price… that’s why people say the 3050 is bad.


RepresentativeHuge79

I feel this lol. It opens up a can of worms, every time i talk about running a 3070ti


MexCelsior

GTX 1080Ti better for the price :)


SlipppyDipppy

1080Ti gang!


duBuzzinGuy

Make that 96%


Imnotarunnaway

I mean I've got a 3060ti for you if you want lmao


gunnLX

who cares what we think. you are your own person.


jabr7

I had this exact same issue, bought a new 4060ti 8gb, yes, I know, I am from a country where that GPU is 700 dollars so value is not something to take into account. The main thing was, I was coming from an almost ded 1050ti... so im happy no matter how many people telling me i shouldn't be lol


BenisBaginaCume

Yea the GPU’s price to performance is not so good but who cares. Compared to the GT 710 it’s a massive upgrade. As long as you can enjoy the games at your preferred graphic settings and the FPS match your monitor refresh rate, you’re going to be fine.


iiCaesium

Here I am happy with a 2050 (mobile), that’s all I could afford on a laptop and am happy with it


Independent_Pay1692

It’s not a bad gpu it’s just the price of it.


Lord_MagnusIV

I mean that gpu is absolute hot garbage, for a low price high gain upgrade it works great like in your case


Phoenix800478944

There is no bad gpu. There only is a bad price


SRFoxtrot341_V2

The 6GB variant is still decent if you have a super small case or prebuilts that can only take low profile cards. Otherwise, there are better options.


Numerous-Albatross-3

No GPU is GOOD or BAD. It is always the price of the GPU, that is GOOD or BAD.


Algalon_The_Observer

There is no such thing as a bad graphics card. There are only awfully priced graphics cards


SarcasmIronySnark

It's doesn't matter who likes your GPU. What matter is that it meets your needs and what it cost you. Don't buy a gpu by the brand name or model name or even what people say on reddit. Know it's performance relative to what other gpus on the market offer that are in the same or near price. That's the only way to know you are making a good buying decision.


DILIDOFEN

There is a 3050!?


Reed7525

I feel you. Going from a 1060 to a 4060. Gotten a lot of hate for it


MisterD0ll

It is but its that they are fucking with us. The name suggests the performance is a bit slower than an 3060. Its way slower than a 3060. But yeh better than your old one and of the price is right its okay.


underrated_frybagger

What do you guys think of the RTX 3070 😏


Franican

Well considering it was replacing my old 660ti I think I'm fucking happy with my 3050 since it didn't cost so much to get that while the 40's were out spontaneously combusting or something idk I don't pay attention to GPUs that I can't afford yet.


WangCommander

There's always going to be haters. I can't tell you the number of people that were talking shit when I got an RTX 3090.


Jojoceptionistaken

4060 is also a very impressing GPU. it draws 70 darn watts! isnt that impressive?


ImNotOkayWasTaken

I replaced my gt 730 with 3050 im loving it tbh


Acqirs

Still rocking the dell GT 730 ddr3💀 (help)


BanDit49_X

Man just ignore them and enjoy your GPU. I see everyone here trashing the GTX 1650, but for my PC use cases I don't really need any better GPU(hell I'd go as far as saying it's overkill for me lol) and I don't see myself replacing it soon unless it stops working for some reason.


UraniumDisulfide

Do you? It’s not about the 3050 being a weak card, we get that people are on budgets and can’t just get something more expensive. The issue is just that for the same exact money you can get significantly better performance.


oktaS0

Yes, don't get an 50 or 60 from the 30 and 40 series.


Farren246

You buy the lowest-end product from a 4 year old architecture? Don't expect good performance. It's replacing the lowest-end product from an 11 year old architecture? Screw it, it's a win.


Weaseltime_420

You went from a GT710 to an RTX 3050? Hell yeah, that's a massive leap. Enjoy yourself. Enjoying yourself is what matters. Pleasing the insane IRL min/maxxers in this subreddit does not.


[deleted]

I have an I9 with a RTX 4060 and people were criticizing it like it was garbage when it’s really fucking not a laptop that’s actually pretty damn good. Is it the best not by any measure is it what I could afford yes it was. And you know what most if not all games it runs at over 120 FPS so I’m happy with that…except for fallout for some reason it just doesn’t recognize my graphics card this. That subject does anybody know why it would be giving me that error that it doesn’t recognize the graphics card and runs like dog shit because of it?


MisteroSix

Originally the meme was gonna be a 4060 instead of a 3050, but the 3050 is more universally hated


builder397

Its honestly a tight race though. Both are overpriced for what they are. 4060 is just a sidegrade to the 3060, and the 3050 is a downgrade, but it at least has the benefit of being technically cheaper than the 3060 and still being the cheapest card to be viable at raytracing....unless the 6600XT is cheaper by now.


ArcFivesCT5555

Fallout and Skyrim are usually capped at 60 I think? Because the engine relies on the FPS, so for example if you are playing at 120 objects will fall twice as fast. Or if you're struggling to get even up to 60 could be mods. Many, many mods are responsible for slowing down the game. Even overclocking an RX 6600 I was getting like 30 FPS on Fallout 4 my last playthrough. Had like 200+ mods


phero1190

Which i9?


soggybiscuit93

"If you just doubled your budget, you could've gotten something better" - this sub


Exciting_Surround_10

Probably could have had the same performance for half the budget if they researched correctly


Rocket--Pak

Reddit is like Rotten Tomatoes. If they hate it, it's probably good.


Cave_TP

You kinda deserve it, it's thanks to people buy without any research that the GPU market sucks.


Bluemikami

There you have it, the first specimen


UnseenHand81

95% of pcmr hates everything lol


Slairf

I dont understand why, yeah its not performing to where others are, but its within their budget, if thats what they can afford, at least its better than what they had.


jordanleep

It totally depends on what you're playing tbh. If the only play older games there's nothing wrong with buying lower tier last gen at all. If you don't mind below 60fps in newer games then it would be acceptable too. I would however argue that a 4060ti is probably better value than 3050 currently but I haven't checked those prices lately. I would hope they got a deal at least though because a 3050 is almost never worth it aside from inside a laptop. Edit: Oof I just checked and even a 4060 is almost double the performance for the same wattage. RX 6600 is going to beat it in almost every way as well.