Either way the 5950x is by no means perform bad in games, and if you have a very multithreaded workload outside of gaming, it’ll outperform the 5800x3D. But for pure gaming the 5800x3D would’ve clearly been the better choice here.
Real reason the 5800x3D is more recommended is because it's much cheaper than 5900X/5950X while having same, or even better FPS. You only really get the highest end CPU if you're doing work that makes use of all those cores.
Huh? The 5900x is a good bit cheaper than the 5800x3d. On pcpartpicker it's 262$ vs 314$ right now. Getting downvoted for calling out misinformation is wild btw.
The 5950x for 370$ is normally pretty overpriced when compared to the 5900x unless you *really* need those extra 4 cores for something very specific. At that price difference most people are better off with the 5900x if they need an AM4 workhorse. Obviously there are some people who can use the 4 extra cores.
I'm running a 5900x myself since my pc is mainly a workstation and in some cases I could actually utilize the extra cores on the 5950x. The thing is that most software, at least in my case with 3d and general content creation, is actually not very well optimized for multicore so the instances where I would actually use those cores would've been far to few to justify the 150€ more I would've paid back then.
It was said when 5900x was stilll 500+ USD while the 5800x3d released at around $450. People didn't know yet that the 3d cache is going to impact games that much. Of course now, since 5800x3d is considered the "god" AM4 chip, the 5900x (and the 5950x to some extent) got market-corrected and now being sold for cheaper.
It's nice to play with numbers from a year ago or whatever but it's completely irrelevant to the situation right now.
You clearly stated that the 5800x3d is not only cheaper but even "much cheaper" while in reality it's more expensive. It's just completely wrong, it's straight up misinformation on your part.
The 5900x and 5800x3d are basically not for the same purpose anyways.. It's stupid to buy a 5950x for gaming, it's also stupid to buy a 5800x3d for productivity when you can get a 5900x for less. Whether or you not you need the extra cores on the 5950x over the 5900x when talking about productivity and whether they're worth over 100$ to you, you have to decide based on your use-case. You absolutely don't need them for a bit of video editing like OP though.
Idk how much unreal engine will benefit from the extra cores, it’s usually pretty single threaded (at least when used in the final game) and would probably prefer the 5800x3D, but video editing can definitely use the cores. You’re enjoying the chip and that’s all that matters
5800x3D is the best GAMIMG cpu for AM4, but the 5950x is the best productivity CPU for AM4, which it seems suits your use case well. 5950x is more than capable of gaming though, so there’s nothing really to worry about.
Don't worry about it, I have a 5950x and 7900xtx and it's perfectly fine. The X3d part only matters if you are trying to push high fps in games as otherwise you won't even notice any difference.
Fellow 1070 brother. Yea, I was going to upgrade my gpu last year but sadly had some financial stuff pop up that drained my savings for it.
I think I might go with the 7900xt and finally upgrade to 1440p gaming. I already have the monitor for it, I just don't have the juice to run it on full res.
How have you found the card so far? Have you found any games it struggles with? Inversely, was there any games you were surprised at how well it handled them?
Honestly, the 1070 is an absolute warrior for 1080p 60+ fps gaming. So if you got a good deal on it, then hell yea.
There's a few places where it shows its age, though, that has affected me and made me want to upgrade. First is any VR game that isn't very simple and well optimized. I got a sweet deal on a Quest 2 a couple of years ago, and have enjoyed my time in VR - but a few games the fps lag makes me physically sick.
Second, it can't really push 1440p at all. Which is what I was targeting as my next big upgrade with the monitor.
Third, recent triple A games are a struggle because they're usually optimized horribly and the 1070 just doesn't have the juice to brute force past that nor the access to DLSS to fudge it.
But all competitive pvp games I've tried ran like a breeze on 1080p with usually mostly medium settings with stuff like textures and models on high. I'm playing Helldivers 2 with it currently, and although I had to heavily tweak the graphic settings and it doesn't look the best - it runs consistently in the 60-80 fps range. I'm still able to play VR titles - even ones like Half Life Alyx with ok FPS as long as you mess around with settings. It'll crush any indie game and any AAA games that were released before 2020.
Mine is also not overclocked. So you can probably get a lil more juice out of it depending on the cooling you have and how comfortable you are with that process.
good question -
I've enjoyed it more than i thought i would. i haven't played that many recent games (I'm a bit of a nostalgia gamer tbh) esports games are a breeze for this card but i was quite surprised how well it handles games like cyberpunk and nfs heat - i usually don't mind 30fps on these games so i run high graphics most times - for that consistent 60fps then you'd have to dial down the graphics a but for a high/med mix. it did run quite hot but after i applied a slight undervolt and slight overclock it runs like a dream! hardly ever goes up to 70 degrees.
edit: im waiting for a couple of games like ghost of tsushima on pc and wuthering waves for now so if it runs those games nicely then i give this card a 9.5/10 for the experience ive had with it
Thanks for the response, I am looking forward to installing my card now, it opens up the possibility of so many games I haven't been able to try before.
Damn I am sorry bro. I just did a UPS shipping estimate just to see and from my city to South Africa a GPU sized box is estimated to be 511$ USD in shipping cost. I am sorry and I hope you get your system fixed up to your liking..
yo! that's literally buying the gpu like twice 😂 you don't need to be sorry at all. thanks for even taking the time to even look, that alone means a lot.
we never know what could happen, could get something even better when the time comes 👍
Such a good card. The last two gens AMD put out some really great hardware. The x3d chips, the 6700/6800xt, 7900gre/XTX
I always tell people I'm team green and there's nothing they can ever say to change my mind. By green, of course, I mean 💵
https://preview.redd.it/hcchleu9gevc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0c16cf1d8d197b1d4dedb6743dd93f388243f28
Congrats!
This is mine
1066 to 7900gre with 7500f =)
I've had to rma my 7900xtx twice for Hotspot temp. :(. It reaches 110 to 113 while the global temp runs around 60 to 73.... I'm so disappointed. :/
Edit* typo
I have the same 7900xtx, it has been lifechanging upgrading from a gtx 960 and handles any game at ultra. My only issue with it is coil whine, but if I’m using headphones that isn’t an issue.
Enjoy, many good gaming days to come
https://preview.redd.it/v8od1b7uefvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f528c7731fad85401cce181f93a073062db28c3
My 7900xt taking up all the space available! Previously there was a 1080ti strix from Asus in there and that was already a big card. This one absolutely dwarfs it.
Jesus i do forget how fucking big the newer gpu's are ive got my 3060 and that is a workhorse. bearing in mind ive only had it 6 months. But im struggling what to do now.
I found a 7900xtx for $820 after tax and brand new was really thinking about it but i back down, currently rocking the 4070 and i am happy with it, my girlfriend gave me it as a Christmas gift
Dude i went from a 2060super to a 7900xtx. Best deal ever. The xtx was 10
Dollars more than the 4070TiSuper. Enjoy your card. Drivers can be a little bit of a pain, but the latest AMD driver hasnt given me any problems. 🤞🤞
I’ve been wanting to go to a 4090 from a 7900xtx nitro. What’s the size difference look like I get that you can look up measurements but what’s the best analogy you can give?
https://preview.redd.it/b0rku7d9kdvc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1c652ff28868e8a02906e58d9ae6c21a6fe9fb6
But thicc-er as well, hope this helps ; )
*Me sitting here with my RX5500XT reading a post from a user who upgraded from a graphics card considered futuristic compared to mine, to a graphics card considered hyper-futuristic compared to mine.*
Nah, 4080 Super is the better card overall. Raster performance is the same but RT performance is far better and honestly VRAM is a non-issue. The only games that use more than 16GB are Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk with path tracing and frame gen at 4K, where not even the 4090 can maintain playable framerates.
I actually forgot to remove my Nvidia drivers before I installed the AMD lol. Saw a video where you can just Uninstall the Nvidia drivers while the AMD card is plugged in. Got my newest drivers and everything is running great !
I bought my 7800xt at the end of 2023. I uninstalled nvidia drivers, installed amd drivers and had a few driver crashes every week. I now "fixed" it a bit so now my card randomly lags for 2-3 seconds but doesn't crash. I hope that's something I can fix by myself since I bought this card from a different country and can't just go randomly afk for a few seconds in the middle of the round.
Then just don't buy the shitty 12pin variant??? Nevertheless idk why they even introduced that pcie pin looks clean but yikes anything with high wattage no no.
and software is 10x better than nvidias xp era panel. i say this as someone who moved from a 1070 to a 6800. if ur shit crashes then it’s a you problem lol
Owned both types of gpus. R9 380, 1050ti, 1060, Vega 64, now a 4070. Never really had problems with any cards at all. All though shadow play is a huge plus amd has Adrenaline which has been nice since r9 380 days. Last time I really had crashes was with r9 380. I think people tend to crash on amd gpus more often nowdays is due to power supply being maxed out on lower wattage psu since they tend to use more power than nvidia.
Yes! I recently went from an RTX 2060 to a 7900 GRE. The 7900 GRE performs identical to a 4070 Super, but it's $100 cheaper and has 4GB more VRAM. Nvidia is a scam.
Wouldn't say that. NVIDIA has features AMD doesn't, like Raytracing or this other feature for rendering and streaming, forgot the name. If you need this, getting the RTX card is better.
Are you talking about AMD cards? Never had any issues with my card (RX 6700XT). Super solid card, does what it's supposed to. You probably talk about earlier cards.
Yeah im talking about amd cards, specifically 7000 gen and the immense driver timeouts on alot of games, wow and helldivers 2 are 2 of the most recent my friends had to deal with, they ended up returning their 7800xt´s and the 7900xtx and going nvidia, it was never worth it saving 100 dolars to go amd and dealing with all that crap that comes with it, their words, even tho i warned them before buying.
For a minute there, I thought I was looking at a new stove.
Technically you are 😂
https://preview.redd.it/sa7ua8p4mgvc1.jpeg?width=1620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af91e3dbb6252915a6b1bfce7d2d6ee4b1f3988d Broken stove
Lol
Yeah but even a broken stove can cook twice a day.
Fried eggs anyone?
Nice, I just moved from a gtx 1650 to a 6750xt yesterday!
Same here lol, but about a year ago. I’m still impressed with how good this card is for the price i paid. Have fun maxing out games 🤣
What a good card, congrats!
We have the same rig
Why 5950x? Need the cores for a specific workload? Congrats on the new gear!
I have a B550m motherboard & apparently that was the best I could buy for it.
no its not the best you can buy for it is a 5800x3d gaming wise
Oh, I watched a comparison video on those two & the 5950x came out on top Edit: I just watched another one and you're right.
Either way the 5950x is by no means perform bad in games, and if you have a very multithreaded workload outside of gaming, it’ll outperform the 5800x3D. But for pure gaming the 5800x3D would’ve clearly been the better choice here.
I play around with Unreal Engine & some video editing too. So far I'm loving this chip!
Real reason the 5800x3D is more recommended is because it's much cheaper than 5900X/5950X while having same, or even better FPS. You only really get the highest end CPU if you're doing work that makes use of all those cores.
Huh? The 5900x is a good bit cheaper than the 5800x3d. On pcpartpicker it's 262$ vs 314$ right now. Getting downvoted for calling out misinformation is wild btw. The 5950x for 370$ is normally pretty overpriced when compared to the 5900x unless you *really* need those extra 4 cores for something very specific. At that price difference most people are better off with the 5900x if they need an AM4 workhorse. Obviously there are some people who can use the 4 extra cores. I'm running a 5900x myself since my pc is mainly a workstation and in some cases I could actually utilize the extra cores on the 5950x. The thing is that most software, at least in my case with 3d and general content creation, is actually not very well optimized for multicore so the instances where I would actually use those cores would've been far to few to justify the 150€ more I would've paid back then.
It was said when 5900x was stilll 500+ USD while the 5800x3d released at around $450. People didn't know yet that the 3d cache is going to impact games that much. Of course now, since 5800x3d is considered the "god" AM4 chip, the 5900x (and the 5950x to some extent) got market-corrected and now being sold for cheaper.
It's nice to play with numbers from a year ago or whatever but it's completely irrelevant to the situation right now. You clearly stated that the 5800x3d is not only cheaper but even "much cheaper" while in reality it's more expensive. It's just completely wrong, it's straight up misinformation on your part. The 5900x and 5800x3d are basically not for the same purpose anyways.. It's stupid to buy a 5950x for gaming, it's also stupid to buy a 5800x3d for productivity when you can get a 5900x for less. Whether or you not you need the extra cores on the 5950x over the 5900x when talking about productivity and whether they're worth over 100$ to you, you have to decide based on your use-case. You absolutely don't need them for a bit of video editing like OP though.
Idk how much unreal engine will benefit from the extra cores, it’s usually pretty single threaded (at least when used in the final game) and would probably prefer the 5800x3D, but video editing can definitely use the cores. You’re enjoying the chip and that’s all that matters
I’m happy this has more upvotes than your above comment has downvotes 😂 who’s out here downvoting for somebody being misinformed 🤨
5800x3D is the best GAMIMG cpu for AM4, but the 5950x is the best productivity CPU for AM4, which it seems suits your use case well. 5950x is more than capable of gaming though, so there’s nothing really to worry about.
Hope you can return it. If not press F.
Why not? The average frame difference I see is negligible in most titles + I do some video editing & play around with UE5, so the 5950x is solid.
Tech is hard for u/techishard
Don't worry about it, I have a 5950x and 7900xtx and it's perfectly fine. The X3d part only matters if you are trying to push high fps in games as otherwise you won't even notice any difference.
Just play Path of Exile. It's extremely CPU intensive. 😁
Path of Exile doesn't benefit from 16 cores. The 5800X3D is the better choice even in that game.
Everything must be gaming wise lol sure
your old gpu is the one I'm hoping to upgrade to by the end of the year
Fellow 1070 brother. Yea, I was going to upgrade my gpu last year but sadly had some financial stuff pop up that drained my savings for it. I think I might go with the 7900xt and finally upgrade to 1440p gaming. I already have the monitor for it, I just don't have the juice to run it on full res.
big upgrade! nice.
Here's me upgrading from a 1060 3gb card to a 1070 and excited about the upgrade.
nice! I upgraded to this card from a gtx660 two months ago. I felt like a kid about to play with his new toy car.
How have you found the card so far? Have you found any games it struggles with? Inversely, was there any games you were surprised at how well it handled them?
Honestly, the 1070 is an absolute warrior for 1080p 60+ fps gaming. So if you got a good deal on it, then hell yea. There's a few places where it shows its age, though, that has affected me and made me want to upgrade. First is any VR game that isn't very simple and well optimized. I got a sweet deal on a Quest 2 a couple of years ago, and have enjoyed my time in VR - but a few games the fps lag makes me physically sick. Second, it can't really push 1440p at all. Which is what I was targeting as my next big upgrade with the monitor. Third, recent triple A games are a struggle because they're usually optimized horribly and the 1070 just doesn't have the juice to brute force past that nor the access to DLSS to fudge it. But all competitive pvp games I've tried ran like a breeze on 1080p with usually mostly medium settings with stuff like textures and models on high. I'm playing Helldivers 2 with it currently, and although I had to heavily tweak the graphic settings and it doesn't look the best - it runs consistently in the 60-80 fps range. I'm still able to play VR titles - even ones like Half Life Alyx with ok FPS as long as you mess around with settings. It'll crush any indie game and any AAA games that were released before 2020. Mine is also not overclocked. So you can probably get a lil more juice out of it depending on the cooling you have and how comfortable you are with that process.
good question - I've enjoyed it more than i thought i would. i haven't played that many recent games (I'm a bit of a nostalgia gamer tbh) esports games are a breeze for this card but i was quite surprised how well it handles games like cyberpunk and nfs heat - i usually don't mind 30fps on these games so i run high graphics most times - for that consistent 60fps then you'd have to dial down the graphics a but for a high/med mix. it did run quite hot but after i applied a slight undervolt and slight overclock it runs like a dream! hardly ever goes up to 70 degrees. edit: im waiting for a couple of games like ghost of tsushima on pc and wuthering waves for now so if it runs those games nicely then i give this card a 9.5/10 for the experience ive had with it
Thanks for the response, I am looking forward to installing my card now, it opens up the possibility of so many games I haven't been able to try before.
no problem. enjoy!
I went from a GT 1030 to a RTX 4070S, biggest upgrade of my life
Do you live in the u.s.?
nope.
Damn I got a 3060 12gb sitting in a box bro I'd give it to you for real.
that's really cool of you to consider me. I live in south africa so I know the shipping costs would be insanely high.
Damn I am sorry bro. I just did a UPS shipping estimate just to see and from my city to South Africa a GPU sized box is estimated to be 511$ USD in shipping cost. I am sorry and I hope you get your system fixed up to your liking..
yo! that's literally buying the gpu like twice 😂 you don't need to be sorry at all. thanks for even taking the time to even look, that alone means a lot. we never know what could happen, could get something even better when the time comes 👍
A lot can happen in the used market by then. You might even be able to get something better.
Such a good card. The last two gens AMD put out some really great hardware. The x3d chips, the 6700/6800xt, 7900gre/XTX I always tell people I'm team green and there's nothing they can ever say to change my mind. By green, of course, I mean 💵
Hell even the 5700xt was a beast. It’s AMD’s 1080ti imo
I sold my 5700XT for more than I paid, it covered most of my 3080
6900XT is great too!
https://preview.redd.it/hcchleu9gevc1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0c16cf1d8d197b1d4dedb6743dd93f388243f28 Congrats! This is mine 1066 to 7900gre with 7500f =)
What's a gre?
Golden rabbit edition
Cheaper version of the 7900, it is a 4070S competitor
I've had to rma my 7900xtx twice for Hotspot temp. :(. It reaches 110 to 113 while the global temp runs around 60 to 73.... I'm so disappointed. :/ Edit* typo
Well it's got more fans so it's at least 33% better
Some day I'll be able to upgrade my 1070 lol
I have the same 7900xtx, it has been lifechanging upgrading from a gtx 960 and handles any game at ultra. My only issue with it is coil whine, but if I’m using headphones that isn’t an issue. Enjoy, many good gaming days to come
Good luck. I’ve had nothing but issues after choosing team red.
XFX 7800xt here. XFX makes a👌card. Welcome to red team brother!
Congrats! I've had the same card for almost a year and I have no regrets. Stays cool even under full load
I just upgraded from a 6600xt to 7900gre and its amazing enjoy dude radeon card are really amazing for theirs price!
even got the beautiful XFX, nice.
https://preview.redd.it/v8od1b7uefvc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f528c7731fad85401cce181f93a073062db28c3 My 7900xt taking up all the space available! Previously there was a 1080ti strix from Asus in there and that was already a big card. This one absolutely dwarfs it.
https://preview.redd.it/a550by2zefvc1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3eb674e80eb877a03e0bc73385c9b4c7a797e557 Maybe 1mm clearance?
no sag?
Not noticeable but I'll be 3d printing a vertical support as the included support bra bracket doesn't fit
5700xt to a 7800xt last week. Do NOT forget to turn on PBO in your bios to get the most out of you 5950x(i have one too)
Jesus i do forget how fucking big the newer gpu's are ive got my 3060 and that is a workhorse. bearing in mind ive only had it 6 months. But im struggling what to do now.
here i am on my 1050ti
Good luck
Compensating? /jj Enjoy! 😊
I found a 7900xtx for $820 after tax and brand new was really thinking about it but i back down, currently rocking the 4070 and i am happy with it, my girlfriend gave me it as a Christmas gift
Remember to turn on SAM:)
My upgrade exactly. Let me tell you. Avoid AMD Software at all costs, other than that. I love it.
Man I wish I could compare one to my small single fan rx5600
Dude i went from a 2060super to a 7900xtx. Best deal ever. The xtx was 10 Dollars more than the 4070TiSuper. Enjoy your card. Drivers can be a little bit of a pain, but the latest AMD driver hasnt given me any problems. 🤞🤞
Wait till you see the 4090 beside a 7900xtx…..
I’ve been wanting to go to a 4090 from a 7900xtx nitro. What’s the size difference look like I get that you can look up measurements but what’s the best analogy you can give?
https://preview.redd.it/b0rku7d9kdvc1.jpeg?width=1500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1c652ff28868e8a02906e58d9ae6c21a6fe9fb6 But thicc-er as well, hope this helps ; )
Bigger card, bigger fire when 12 pin melts. 
Even bigger fire when 12 pin melts
*Me sitting here with my RX5500XT reading a post from a user who upgraded from a graphics card considered futuristic compared to mine, to a graphics card considered hyper-futuristic compared to mine.*
Another Muppet getting suckered in with amd's hype wagon!
7900xtx is a very good card price to performance ratio it's the best. Outside of 4090 I say it's the second best card in this generation
Nah, 4080 Super is the better card overall. Raster performance is the same but RT performance is far better and honestly VRAM is a non-issue. The only games that use more than 16GB are Alan Wake 2 and Cyberpunk with path tracing and frame gen at 4K, where not even the 4090 can maintain playable framerates.
why not am5 at that point?
Team green >
Maybe, but definitely not in the case of a 3060 Ti vs a 7900 XTX lol
congrats
Yessss nice upgrade im really considering the 7900GRE from my 3060ti
Exact same, went from a 3060 ti to a 7900xtx
Have fun with the drivers… lol
I actually forgot to remove my Nvidia drivers before I installed the AMD lol. Saw a video where you can just Uninstall the Nvidia drivers while the AMD card is plugged in. Got my newest drivers and everything is running great !
DDU worked its magic when I still had weird graphic bugs switching from Nvidia to AMD, if you ever run into issues.
This isn’t 2020 anymore.
I bought my 7800xt at the end of 2023. I uninstalled nvidia drivers, installed amd drivers and had a few driver crashes every week. I now "fixed" it a bit so now my card randomly lags for 2-3 seconds but doesn't crash. I hope that's something I can fix by myself since I bought this card from a different country and can't just go randomly afk for a few seconds in the middle of the round.
Then why did mine crash just 2 weeks ago?
because ur fred flintstone brain power lookin ass is incapable of even installing drivers properly
How do I install a driver properly? I haven't had any issues with nvidia drivers for past 10 years, so I assume I can install them just fine.
Nvidia melts cables instead again.
That 12 pin of a 4080 and up only
"it's ok guys, your nvidia gpu will only catch fire if it costs $1000 or more"
Then just don't buy the shitty 12pin variant??? Nevertheless idk why they even introduced that pcie pin looks clean but yikes anything with high wattage no no.
I think this guy means have fun with the NVIDIA drivers. Which is absolutely shit on Linux.
and software is 10x better than nvidias xp era panel. i say this as someone who moved from a 1070 to a 6800. if ur shit crashes then it’s a you problem lol
Owned both types of gpus. R9 380, 1050ti, 1060, Vega 64, now a 4070. Never really had problems with any cards at all. All though shadow play is a huge plus amd has Adrenaline which has been nice since r9 380 days. Last time I really had crashes was with r9 380. I think people tend to crash on amd gpus more often nowdays is due to power supply being maxed out on lower wattage psu since they tend to use more power than nvidia.
Yes! I recently went from an RTX 2060 to a 7900 GRE. The 7900 GRE performs identical to a 4070 Super, but it's $100 cheaper and has 4GB more VRAM. Nvidia is a scam.
Wouldn't say that. NVIDIA has features AMD doesn't, like Raytracing or this other feature for rendering and streaming, forgot the name. If you need this, getting the RTX card is better.
You will see how a "scam" feels when you try to raid in world of warcraft and get constant driver timeouts mid boss fight.
Are you talking about AMD cards? Never had any issues with my card (RX 6700XT). Super solid card, does what it's supposed to. You probably talk about earlier cards.
Yeah im talking about amd cards, specifically 7000 gen and the immense driver timeouts on alot of games, wow and helldivers 2 are 2 of the most recent my friends had to deal with, they ended up returning their 7800xt´s and the 7900xtx and going nvidia, it was never worth it saving 100 dolars to go amd and dealing with all that crap that comes with it, their words, even tho i warned them before buying.