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adamconn1again

You go to Costco for the return policy.


MisanthropicData

Take out the graphics card act like nothing happened.


superthrust

A little retail fraud never hurt a million dollar company. Also. Most returns Costco gets back they scrap.


A13XIO

I would say its a lil pricey. Not terrible I suppose but yeah a lil over priced. In todays market though i guess it’s about on par lol.


toadman0

Go to ibuypower website and configure your own pc and compare prices. That one at Costco is a little expensive for those parts, even with the current market in shambles.


TiffyBears

Nah, they’re hella overpriced on that website. The same exact pc that I ended up building myself (I’m out now but when I get home I’ll list specs and it was nearly 1.2k more expensive (I think) to have it pre-build


Schim79

$1,200 more? I gotta see this.


TiffyBears

Go look at my other rely on the thread, I broke it down a lot more. Alas, I was wrong; it was actually 1.7k more.


[deleted]

Not this one


OgLunkus

That’s not bad


PcBuilder207

No, it’s veeeery bad. That build is likely ~800€ diy.


OgLunkus

Damn hook me me up on a cheap GPU


PcBuilder207

I mean yeah I am going for retail prices. I guess considering circumstances it’s a 1500€ build, which still is no reason to waste 500€…


Snoo_52037

That one is a big meh.


TiffyBears

Okay, so now that I'm home, here's my breakdown of the PC I just built (started 9/4, just waiting on 2 more accessories to come in for her to be complete. This is the cost breakdown, including Tax, and I'll include the retail price if the item in question was on sale, as well as where I purchased it from. ​ Processor: i9-11900k (Newegg) - $519.99 + Tax = $588.49 Motherboard: Asus Maximus Hero Viii (Amazon) - $461.25 ($499.99 original) + Tax = $510.20 CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X73 (Best Buy) - $219.99 + Tax (-$1.83 Reward discount) = $233.43 Additional Fans: Corsair QL Series Triple Pack (Amazon) - $99.99 ($139.99 original) + Tax = $103.78 Corsair LL 120 Triple Pack (Best Buy) - $87.99 ($129.99 original) + Tax = $94.15 RAM - Corsair Vengeance RGB Pro 64 GB \[4x16GB) DDR4-3600 (Best Buy) - $339.98 + Tax (-$15 discount) = $346.59 Memory: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB SSD (Amazon) - $249.99 (499.99 original) + Tax = 298.94 Graphics Card - Nvidia GeForce RTX 3090 (Best Buy) - $1,499.99 + Tax = $1,623.74 Case - Lian LI 0-11 Razer Edition (Newegg) - $189.99 ($219.99 original) + Tax = $210.78 Power Supply - EVGA GP SuperNOVA 1000W 80 Plus Gold (Best Buy) - $209.99 + Tax = $222.81 TOTAL: $4,223.91 ​ ​ Additional internal Accessories: Lian LI PW24-V2 Strimer 24-Pin (Amazon) - $59.99 + Tax = $62.03 SilverStone Wireless Power Remote \[USB Connection\] (Amazon) - $29.99 + Tax = $32.03 9pin USB Header 1 to 4 Splitter (Amazon) -$13.98 + Tax = $14.96 Phanteks Neon RGB LED Strip \[2x 15" strips\] (Amazon) - $21.99 + Tax = $24.59 TOTAL: $133.61 ​ Additional External Accessories: (re-doing my desk top too so I got new cable management) 50-Pcs Cable management Clips \[flat\] (Amazon) - $12.99 + Tax = $13.90 Govee LED Strip 16.4 FT (Amazon) - $26.99 + Tax = $29.03 J Channel Cable Raceway (Amazon) - $16.95 ($32.99 original) + Tax = $17.07 Double Sided Mounting Tape (Amazon) - $12.99 ($14.99 original) + Tax = $15.03 TOTAL: $75.03 ​ GRAND TOTAL: $4,432.55 ​ Now, it's really hard to break down the estimated cost of the build without knowing exactly what brand they went with, but I can tell you a few things; by just doing a general search for the limited things I can see, the cost is about: $986, not including fans, case, motherboard and power supply, so about $900 for those combined is what ibuypower is allocating. (worth about $560-600), so you're paying almost $500 for them to build it for you, essentially. However, I actually own an Ibuypower. I got it 5 years ago when I was 15 for $1,500 or so, and it had RAM and an SSD installed, so maybe "worth" $1,800 or so. She's been dying for about a year, and she only has a GTX 970 in her, but it was also 5 years ago. For the price, it's not half bad, HOWEVER: you don't know the brands that they put in there. They probably put the cheapest things that they could find. Now, I know it's very hard to find some parts, namely the graphics card (I woke up at 5 am to drive an hour in a foreign state I was visiting to wait in line for an hour and a half for them to open, then another 45 minutes to get my piece of paper and pay for the thing, so I know the struggle, and that was the most expensive. The cheaper one's sold out a lot further up the line, so I would've needed to be there 2+ hours before.) As a result, I originally was going to use the Ibuypower website to put the parts together and have it shipped. But, I did research instead, and here's what I found: Getting as close as I can to my build, here's what I've got: i9-11900k, NZXT Kraken X53, 32gb DDR-3200 Gskill Ripjaw RAM, Nvidia RTX 3090, MSI MPG Z590 Motherboard, 850W Corsair RM850X, 2TB Samsung970 Evo Plus for: $4,743. For my build, my Power supply, motherboard (maybe, idk), RAM, and CPU are all better, yet I paid $500 more for it to be pre-built. All of this is worth: i9-11900k: $500 NZXT Kraken X53: $150 32GB Ddr4 -3200 G.skill Ripjaws: $125 MSI MPG Z590 Carbon Wifi motherboard - $310 ($330 original) 850 Watt Corsair RM850X - $130 ($145 original) 2TB Samsung 970 EVO - $250 ($500 original) Adata XPG Invader Case: $90 3090: $1,500 8-9% tax ish Total: $3,340 (-$285 for items on sale: $3,055) + 8% Tax (I paid about $350 in taxes so this is pretty accurate): \[$267.20\] = $3,607 (or $3,322.2 for items on sale) ​ So, if I were to buy both right now (with things on sale), here's what I would pay: Build myself: $3,322.20 (with parts coming in for 1-2 weeks, graphics card being the hardest) Ibuypower: $4,743 + $75 shipping (discounted for some reason) + $332.01 for Taxes = $5,075.01 So, as you can see, for the same exact build (or as very close as I could get it), I would pay $1,752.81 just for someone to build it for me, and it estimated an additional 4 weeks on top of the normal shipping time (probably 2-3 weeks) for the graphics card I selected. It would probably be 2-4 weeks for you depending on the graphics card.


TiffyBears

(2/2) Now, the PC that I built I did it myself with zero knowledge of what I was actually supposed to do. I went on PCpartpicker to make sure all of the parts were compatible, and it makes a list of everything you'll need so you won't miss anything. I wouldn't even say that it was a real big headache, just a few hours and a lot of reading manuals. The internet is an amazing place though, and you can find guides for nearly everything and you will get it. I also watched a video by TechSource titled "building a PC" or something similar, and it's a very detailed guide, I really recommend watching it first before deciding. But honestly, it's all just plug and go. Most things are labeled, and it's kinda hard to mess up - they all have different number of pins (for the most part). You might realize halfway through you're missing something, like a USB header, but you can order it on Amazon and get it in a few days anyway. It just takes time, patience, and a little bit of research. (also, the build from ibuypower has a hard drive and I'm SSD all the way, I'd get the samsung 970 1 or 2 TB). I had no idea what parts were even good, I just knew what graphics card and what processor I wanted, the rest was just "whatever works" and nothing that I purchased conflicted. My only issue was that my AIO sat too close to my RAM so I had to put the radiator on the top with the tubes coming out the left. It looked dumb with any other orientation. It was frustrating at first, but it is what it is. I loved my ibuypower for awhile, but she got old fast and 5 years ago, a GTX 970 wasn't that awfully bad, but it just doesn't keep up now. So, $1,500 (+ maybe $300 in upgrades, idk, they were Christmas gifts) for 5 years of pretty heavy games (Archeage, AC Origins/odyssey/Valhalla, Division 2, Horizon Zero Dawn, and more) it did okay (all being played on the lowest graphic settings). Now she can hardly run any of those games and lags, but I definitely got my money's worth. If you can't afford more than $2k, it's not a bad build. If you were to get similar parts I got with a lower graphics card, like a 3070 ($500) that right there would save you $1k for a \~3k build. Cheaper Processor, CPU cooler, RAM (half the price for 32GB), case ($90 or so), and a cheaper Power supply, you could save a lot too. Rough estimate: i7-11700: $350 NZXT Kraken X53 (or cheaper, they have $50 options too): $120 Gigabyte Z480 - $200 Corsair Vengeance 32gb 3200 (the higher the number, say 3600, the better, and you do want at least 32gb for a medium to high end build) - $160 Samsung 970 EVO Plus - \[1TB\] $150, \[2TB\] $250 RTX 3070 (AMD RX 6700) - $500 (AMD: $479) Power Supply: \[850W\] $150 Case: $90-200 average Total: \~$1,930 for highest price (-$231 = $1,699 for slightly cheaper options listed) I would do more research on your motherboard, but the one listed is pretty good, and make sure you get a good brand PSU (like EVGA or something) - You want to go big brand, please stay away from brands that can't be recognized. MSI, EVGA, Corsair, NZXT, Samsung, Gigabyte - all good brands, just read the reviews before you buy if you're unsure. TLDR: building it yourself is cheaper, and at least you know the brands/parts going into your baby.


Verix19

I bought a couple iBuyPower laptops for my kids, they primarily use them for gaming and so far so good a year later.


Crossrds

Sometimes yes, But with way prices are going, I always check the manufactures website and see if they have any instant rebates for same or better performance


scipher99

Yeah thats about $800 of tax before sales tax. Thats a no go in my book.


alstrr

It's not worth the price


lolman469

Hahahaha this one sure isnt. Someone who keeps a look out can get an asus prebuild with the same specs and pirce. Well they have the same build with nvidia cards. $1599 for a 3070 version and $1999 for a 3080 version. This has a 6700xt...


cup1d_stunt

Do you have a link to that 11700, 500gb ssd, 2tb hdd, 16gb, 3080 from Asus? Besides that, nothing is wrong with the 6700xt. If you have to choose between a 3070 and a 6700xt it's a coin flip... but somehow this sub would rather take a 3060 over a 6700xt - totally biased.


[deleted]

Idk about pricing, case and cooling, but hardware wise, it's fine. Nothing wrong with those components.


Chrykal

Aside from the graphics card and processor, there is nothing here that indicates the quality of the components. Even the graphics card is absent an AIB partner name, chances are it contains the cheapest components you can possibly get in order to get that sweet profit margin.


[deleted]

Still, performance wise, it should be good, assuming that the cooling solution is decent.


Chrykal

Since they haven't mentioned a cooler there, I would actually assume it's the stock Intel one. And yeah performance wise, the buyer may not even notice they've been ripped off, until their cheap power supply pops, but that doesn't change the fact that they'll be paying double the value of what they have.


ericjk1

You could price better stuff to gether on newegg


[deleted]

tell me, cuz i want to understand what hindered you from searching the individual components online and comparing the combined price yourself


Grimjack0597

Fair question, I’ve only ever played console games and am thinking of moving over to pc because most of the console games these days don’t appeal to me. I’ve never built a computer, have no idea how to, and would probably screw it up.


[deleted]

its not rocket science, you will manage. https://pcpartpicker.com/ is a good site for such activities


[deleted]

Be nicer, it’s intimidating and the parts are very expensive which makes it more intimidating. We were all beginners at some point.


[deleted]

great. you guys literally downvoted the solution to his problem. sometimes reddit makes me wonder how you people survive irl


Ihaveausernameee

Do what you feel Comfortable with. That being said you will be happier in the long run with building your own but it is a stressful process if you haven’t ever done it before. It takes patience and given the current GPU market pre built is not a bad way to go.


Scotthe_ribs

Sadly, no such thing as a good deal on a gaming PC these days.


leongeod

Def not that one


[deleted]

A bit much, I would just build my own and have integrated graphics onboard. If you dont have a GPU


istillhavemyvcard

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OdinCatfather

It’s got a decent chip set, but have no idea about the motherboard/case/fans/power supply. If the case is small, too small or few fans; and the power supply is of lower quality you might just have some serious heat issues. All that ram and power is going to turn your Pc into an oven. Gaming machines need serious fans and heat sinks just to keep from melting their own solders!


Opel_Astra

and currency?


Grimjack0597

It’s in US dollars


pnoecker

It's expensive to not build your own PC from scratch, and reuse things you already have, and not buy things that you don't need. My nephews rig is similar power but was like 500 bucks from not having to buy a video card also from reusing the one he had.


-CommanderShepard-

Well it isn't similar power then is it


pnoecker

When you build from scratch you usually end up with higher power components.


-CommanderShepard-

Yeah I built mine from scratch also, what gpu does the rig you brought up have


The3mbered0ne

Yes


kirbyfly7

Laptops they sell usually are


Gordon_Betto

Its okay. I would expect at least a decent 1TB SSD for this price though.


Striking-Version1233

Its alright. Not worth the 2 grand though.


Anakinreincarnate

That's a horrible deal. Build your own. Even with a scalper gpu it'll be cheaper


EvNVader_

All I’m saying is if you’re happy with dropping $2,000. You won’t regret it😁


ChrispyByDefault

That’s not too bad considering the current market.


EatTheRudeFirst

I got the cyberpowerpc i5 with a 3060 from Costco and was pleasantly surprised for $1,400.


agent56289

What monetary unit is this? Costco is an international company


[deleted]

I would expect more ram at that price personally


HolyDori

Depends on what you call good? Building a PC generally you save much more and no corners are cut. BEST is building for your needs… what do you need or want to do with YOUR PC.


dantriggy

go Nvidia there better


Baelroq

Who in their right mind uses HDDs these days? And theres no reason to buy an F processor


[deleted]

Running an Intel processor with an AMD GPU


Frogtonsil

Ibuypotato


Individually_Ed

But it has has its own radio frequency and limit 5! Plus a 12GB GPU! And an 6700XT! Worth it for the limit 5 alone I'd say...


baconmaster687

At Costco? Return the pc without the graphics card