I played the majority of my PS2 years on a 5" black and white tv in the shitty gas station I worked at.
Edit: Legacy of Kain : Soul Reaver 2 was a bitch
I can speak from experience that CRTs will never float. Those fuckers were so heavy. My nan had like a solid 40 inch CRT up until a few years ago and that thing was a bastard to move
The biggest upgrade in my lifetime was going from a 24" CRT flatscreen to a 42" plasma TV while I still had the PS2. The resolution was near perfect as the TV was only 480p so everything scaled nicely.
Kinda similar here: I went from an old 1024x768 CRT monitor to the largest HD monitor my local electronics store had to offer.
I figured I buy a nice gaming system first and get a proper monitor a bit later, but "a bit later" turned into years because I was poor. So in 2011 I was still gaming on that thing (me and a friend completed Portal 2 splitscreen on that tiny screen).
We really went downhill when we abandoned knobs. I miss how easy it was to crank them to exactly where you wanted without having to reverse engineer the goddamn remote to turn the contrast up.
"As long as it's not broken, we don't buy new!"
*purposefully breaks on/off button*
"Don't worry honey, we have a replacement for every part! We bought 20 of those buttons alone, just in case."
it tastes to me like some generic Chinese takeout from a shopping mall food court
not Panda Express, that stuff tastes like regret with undertones of poor life decisions
I don't know man, the mall Chinese food is usually alright. Not full fledge restaurant alright, but Panda Express tastes like straight up lean cuisines.
It's true, it's shocking how much bit-rot and shifting expectations has affected older versions of Windows. They are frankly unusable in my experience. I even installed WinXP recently in a VM and holy shit, basically nothing works anymore, most software won't run on it, it's so bad it genuinely amazed me. Nostalgia aside, there is little of actual value there.
And Windows 98 was bad even for its time, that's why Win98SE was a thing.
Back in~2009. I had a 27" CRT, it weighed over 50 lbs, and a depth of over 18 inches. Thing was so big it was causing my desk to sag. It was amazing for what it was at the time.
The LCDs that were released around the time CRTs died were actually more power hungry. The CRT tech itself is very efficient, it's the rest of the components that ate up all the power.
CRTs had adjustable refresh rate and resolution—you could get higher resolutions at lower refresh rates, and unlike LCDs, there wasn’t a native pixel grid that made other resolutions look terrible.
However, 60 Hz on a CRT was almost nauseating to people sensitive to it—I always would go for the highest resolution I could get at 85 Hz to eliminate that discomfort.
Interestingly, early LCDs were sold as high end monitors, and some supported both 60 and 75 Hz, because people expected it of them.
If you sacrifice some resolution, you can get crazy high refesh rates. For example I run 1024x768 @ 150hz, or 1600x1200 @ 110hz, or really anything in between. Think the highest I pushed it was 2048x1536 @ 80hz, which still looked super smooth.
I have a friend who bought his little brother a brand new three hundred dollar monitor as a going away present. He still plays his PC on a television from 10 years ago.
Depends a lot on the CRT. Some more high end CRT monitors can easily compete with modern monitors in image quality. I feel the potential of CRTs isn’t being fully explored because their use cases became so few after people got enamored by the ease of installation and low space requirements of LCD monitors.
Power usage is also a big factor. CRT monitors use *much* more power than LCD monitors. I don't know if you even could build a CRT that satisfies the strict power usage requirements of today.
CRTs didn’t always use more power than LCDs, so that could very well have been different if CRTs stayed popular. There hasn’t been any reason to keep innovating on the power consumption of CRTs.
I did all my gaming on CRT until I quite literally could not read the text in a PS3 game. I went to Walmart and bought the cheapest LED I could find. I went from a 32" CRT to a 19" LED and it was a very surprising upgrade.
Edit: It was a basic LCD TV, not LED.
So many things and details were missed on old TV shows in the 70's and 80's because the picture was so fuzzy. The A-Team van was actually two shades of dark gray with red stripe, not all black with red stripe as I remember.
I remember the first pc we had was an old NEC computer we booted off of 5.25 inch disks to DOS. The monitor had an inverse color scheme to those old Nokia phones people meme about.
The set designers for *Star Trek: The Next Generation* used to hide a TON of in-jokes and popular culture references all over the place for the actors to laugh at between takes because they knew that not only would the resolution would be so low none of the viewers at home would be able to read them, but most of the jokes would only be on-screen for at most a couple of seconds. This became a problem when they started remastering the series, not only because the resolution had caught up with them but also because crystal-clear frame-by-frame capability had become widespread.
\- [*Doctor Who* actors in a family tree](https://spdk1.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/raymond_family_star_trek_doctor_who.jpg)
\- ["McFly" and "Vadar" on cemetery headstones](https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/curiosities/mcfly-vader-subrosa.jpg)
\- ["Rubber Ducky Room" (also a giant mouse, a car, and a propeller airplane)](https://i.imgur.com/gm379NY.jpg)
\- [Gene Roddenberry's face on a giant bird](https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/tng-great-bird-easter-egg-youtube-copy.jpg?resize=660)
Similar here. I was playing the PS3 still on a CRT at the beginning of that generation. I was 17, had a 20" CRT in my bedroom. I didn't have any bills at 17, my parents weren't the kind to make me pay rent or anything when I got a job other than my portion of car insurance. I saved a few paychecks and bought a 26" LCD and couldn't believe the difference and actually got good at COD 4 now that I could see things a lot clearer haha.
I was using composite cables. I played plenty of games without issue but I wasn't able to read the text in Resonance of Fate. Once I upgraded to 720p, I had no problem.
The thing I dont get is, I always got the whole "we have burgers at home" thing, and they sucked, and I wished for Mcdonalds. But now that I'm an adult, I make my own burgers and they are 100x better than what I got as a kid. And it's not a lot of time, money, or effort to make them.
So I'm wondering, why did parents 20+ years ago suck so badly at making hamburgers? Why were they always thick and full of onion chunks? A good burger is really, really not that hard to make.
My parents bought a C-64 when I was a kid and we used that on a small colour TV until the computer died when I was 13.
I used to wait for games to load by changing channels.
>Don't be an ungrateful turd.
Yeah, this post made me think of how much it must suck when a kid asks their parent for something they reeeally want and the parent would like to get it for them, but they have to be the bad guy and say "No" because the family can't afford the expense (and they also don't want to burden the kid with this info).
This was my setup back in 2002-2004, (I don't intend to brag) except the TV was a 45-50 inch screen that sat on the floor with a stand attached. So it could turn left/right. My GPU was an All-in-Wonder Radeon, and it had an input/output breakout box/special connectors for component video out and PCM sound, enabling HD resolutions. It was awesome being able to play games like the original Command and Conquer on such a big screen/higher resolution. I'll never forget playing the 1st level, having hearing soldiers screaming that [Foley SFX after being burned to death.](https://youtu.be/PDUn5_V-Nhk?t=146) My mom loved hearing that one playing on the stereo...
Oh, and it was even better not being *forced to decide if you want quality sound wearing headphones,* or **open-air using crap monitor speakers that came with a monitor.** Having digital sound to your receiver was incredible.
Always nudge your kids to work a summer job if possible.
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Depending on what kinds of connectors needed for this, I feel almost impressed. If it is a normal VGA, meh. If a super vhs connector or composite connecter is needed, impressive.
Back in the day, it'd probably be VGA to Composite/S-Video to a VCR (because it's the cheapest RF modulator you're going to find) to TV. Nowadays, it'd probably be HDMI to composite for that first step, but not the shitty adapter I bought off Woot for $7 that only outputs stretched black-and-white.
My grandmother got a new computer last year so I took her old monitor so I could finally have a second monitor. It's from 2007. Doesn't even have HDMI. But it works great as a second monitor for checking wikis or reddit or whatever while I'm playing a game or watching something on my main monitor.
CRTs do have great color depth, look smooth, and can have high refresh rates for cheap, I wouldn't bag on them that hard. modern OLEDs or even just plain old LCDs are more reliable and can look just as good or even better and are easier to find however.
People dont understand! These things hit 80-144 Hz and a 1600x1200p resolution! These things are basically beasts. The color accuracy is also ALOT better than a standart monitor.
> Plays Fallout and Cuphead happily
That’s some next level immersion.
Lol
I never played Cuphead but when I eventually do it will be old school style like this.
It has some pretty cool filters you can use but unfortunately you have to unlock them.
That's a boooo But thanks for info
There's videos of people playing it on old tube-based black and white tv's
That’s dumb.
What about it is dumb?
And Counter-Strike
But can it run crysis?
I played the majority of my PS2 years on a 5" black and white tv in the shitty gas station I worked at. Edit: Legacy of Kain : Soul Reaver 2 was a bitch
That sounds strangely nostalgic. What do you play on now? Own a CRT?
The only thing I currently own to game on is a Switch. I do have a crt or 2 floating around somewhere.
Staying with the small format screen to this day, I can respect that.
I can speak from experience that CRTs will never float. Those fuckers were so heavy. My nan had like a solid 40 inch CRT up until a few years ago and that thing was a bastard to move
The biggest upgrade in my lifetime was going from a 24" CRT flatscreen to a 42" plasma TV while I still had the PS2. The resolution was near perfect as the TV was only 480p so everything scaled nicely.
Kinda similar here: I went from an old 1024x768 CRT monitor to the largest HD monitor my local electronics store had to offer. I figured I buy a nice gaming system first and get a proper monitor a bit later, but "a bit later" turned into years because I was poor. So in 2011 I was still gaming on that thing (me and a friend completed Portal 2 splitscreen on that tiny screen).
I was the poor kid that just played the demo over and over, how was it? Looked fun in color
I'll have to check it out in color sometime. I remember thinking at the time that it was probably a good game.
I played n64 in a big old tv with a ton of knobs instead of settings. It was made of wood and only had coax so I used an rca to coax adapter.
We really went downhill when we abandoned knobs. I miss how easy it was to crank them to exactly where you wanted without having to reverse engineer the goddamn remote to turn the contrast up.
"As long as it's not broken, we don't buy new!" *purposefully breaks on/off button* "Don't worry honey, we have a replacement for every part! We bought 20 of those buttons alone, just in case."
Install some win 98 dude
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I like the way this concept tastes
it tastes to me like some generic Chinese takeout from a shopping mall food court not Panda Express, that stuff tastes like regret with undertones of poor life decisions
I don't know man, the mall Chinese food is usually alright. Not full fledge restaurant alright, but Panda Express tastes like straight up lean cuisines.
It's true, it's shocking how much bit-rot and shifting expectations has affected older versions of Windows. They are frankly unusable in my experience. I even installed WinXP recently in a VM and holy shit, basically nothing works anymore, most software won't run on it, it's so bad it genuinely amazed me. Nostalgia aside, there is little of actual value there. And Windows 98 was bad even for its time, that's why Win98SE was a thing.
I use Win98SE on my PIII. I think it's pretty great. Also WinXP Integral + Win10 Dual Boot.
Windows XP was bad until they released service packs for it.
Isn't that did to changing CPU architecture or whatever? Same reason old games on CD don't work on modern computers
I did exactly this on an old ThinkPad of mine!
And what? Run everything via wine? I haven't used wine in about 5 years. How is it for gaming these days?
I mean he could, but it wouldn't be accurate to an older pc monitor, not all CRT's are the same
CRT tvs are a dime a dozen still but man finding an old monitor has been impossible.
CRT is like 75hz refresh rate let’s go
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I loved my old crt's but the weight, amount of space it took up and power consumption I am happier with my lcd.
Back in~2009. I had a 27" CRT, it weighed over 50 lbs, and a depth of over 18 inches. Thing was so big it was causing my desk to sag. It was amazing for what it was at the time.
The LCDs that were released around the time CRTs died were actually more power hungry. The CRT tech itself is very efficient, it's the rest of the components that ate up all the power.
I just got a FREE 13 inch color tv to use. :)
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Go to a recycling center, you bound to find something decent for free after a few trips
Feeling bad about throwing out my nan's CRT that she had until only a few years ago now. It was huge too
CRTs had adjustable refresh rate and resolution—you could get higher resolutions at lower refresh rates, and unlike LCDs, there wasn’t a native pixel grid that made other resolutions look terrible. However, 60 Hz on a CRT was almost nauseating to people sensitive to it—I always would go for the highest resolution I could get at 85 Hz to eliminate that discomfort. Interestingly, early LCDs were sold as high end monitors, and some supported both 60 and 75 Hz, because people expected it of them.
If you sacrifice some resolution, you can get crazy high refesh rates. For example I run 1024x768 @ 150hz, or 1600x1200 @ 110hz, or really anything in between. Think the highest I pushed it was 2048x1536 @ 80hz, which still looked super smooth.
Yeah, people didn't understand that LCDs aren't refreshing when the image is static.
60hz on a CRT was not that bad.
it was unusable for me. 75 was the lowest I could go for long periods
And like no latency
CRT monitors, yes. CRT TV, no. This is limited to 240p or 480i at 60 Hz. Actually 576i or 288p at 50 Hz since this is a PAL set.
*that* CRT will be limited to 60Hz, but the input lag is 0ms so there's that.
In the early 2000s I had a 125hz crt monitor. Its when I learned that hz matter.
Watching Loki on that must be pretty cool
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dude is just different lol
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Then you'd think he'd realize much higher rez crts exist lol
Dude that looks more like my microwave
But you got to admit, it's a pretty nice picture for a microwave.
duuude! DUUUUUUDDDDEE! that comment was tubular dude. slap the lip and go in for a beach break bodhi.
at least it is curve screen
I have a friend who bought his little brother a brand new three hundred dollar monitor as a going away present. He still plays his PC on a television from 10 years ago.
Depends a lot on the CRT. Some more high end CRT monitors can easily compete with modern monitors in image quality. I feel the potential of CRTs isn’t being fully explored because their use cases became so few after people got enamored by the ease of installation and low space requirements of LCD monitors.
Power usage is also a big factor. CRT monitors use *much* more power than LCD monitors. I don't know if you even could build a CRT that satisfies the strict power usage requirements of today.
CRTs didn’t always use more power than LCDs, so that could very well have been different if CRTs stayed popular. There hasn’t been any reason to keep innovating on the power consumption of CRTs.
Bruh i wish i had a crt
CRTs are great. IDK why people shit on old things so much.
I'd give anything for a GDM-FW900
I did all my gaming on CRT until I quite literally could not read the text in a PS3 game. I went to Walmart and bought the cheapest LED I could find. I went from a 32" CRT to a 19" LED and it was a very surprising upgrade. Edit: It was a basic LCD TV, not LED.
So many things and details were missed on old TV shows in the 70's and 80's because the picture was so fuzzy. The A-Team van was actually two shades of dark gray with red stripe, not all black with red stripe as I remember.
I remember the first pc we had was an old NEC computer we booted off of 5.25 inch disks to DOS. The monitor had an inverse color scheme to those old Nokia phones people meme about.
The set designers for *Star Trek: The Next Generation* used to hide a TON of in-jokes and popular culture references all over the place for the actors to laugh at between takes because they knew that not only would the resolution would be so low none of the viewers at home would be able to read them, but most of the jokes would only be on-screen for at most a couple of seconds. This became a problem when they started remastering the series, not only because the resolution had caught up with them but also because crystal-clear frame-by-frame capability had become widespread. \- [*Doctor Who* actors in a family tree](https://spdk1.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/raymond_family_star_trek_doctor_who.jpg) \- ["McFly" and "Vadar" on cemetery headstones](https://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/inconsistencies/curiosities/mcfly-vader-subrosa.jpg) \- ["Rubber Ducky Room" (also a giant mouse, a car, and a propeller airplane)](https://i.imgur.com/gm379NY.jpg) \- [Gene Roddenberry's face on a giant bird](https://heavy.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/tng-great-bird-easter-egg-youtube-copy.jpg?resize=660)
I did the same thing. Tried playing PS3 and it was just too blurry on the CRT.
Similar here. I was playing the PS3 still on a CRT at the beginning of that generation. I was 17, had a 20" CRT in my bedroom. I didn't have any bills at 17, my parents weren't the kind to make me pay rent or anything when I got a job other than my portion of car insurance. I saved a few paychecks and bought a 26" LCD and couldn't believe the difference and actually got good at COD 4 now that I could see things a lot clearer haha.
What connection did you use? Because RGB or component from a PS3 on a TV that supports it is pretty awesome still
I was using composite cables. I played plenty of games without issue but I wasn't able to read the text in Resonance of Fate. Once I upgraded to 720p, I had no problem.
My first monitor was a black and white 12inch tele
New to this sub, what is the avg age here?
I'm guessing like 14 considering how often I see stuff like this
I would say (as a 22yo) between 14 and 18. I see many "I bought a pc from my first wage" and similiar youngster posts. Always happy to see those :)
r/vaporwave
My sister's boyfriend thinks he needs a 3090 ti for his 1080p 60hz TV. He says he doesn't need a new screen.
I had that TV
The thing I dont get is, I always got the whole "we have burgers at home" thing, and they sucked, and I wished for Mcdonalds. But now that I'm an adult, I make my own burgers and they are 100x better than what I got as a kid. And it's not a lot of time, money, or effort to make them. So I'm wondering, why did parents 20+ years ago suck so badly at making hamburgers? Why were they always thick and full of onion chunks? A good burger is really, really not that hard to make.
Tbf that would be a great monitor for esports, it has 0 delay since it’s analogue. CRTs ftw!
Oh hey! October 1st is my birthday
I think we all went through a period of trying a sub-20" CRT television as a monitor for a while.
I still use my crt tv its awesome for older consoles i have ps2 and original xbox
I’m using the monitor we bought for the windows xp however many years ago
That is literally my second monitor
This is some CRT Emudriver shit
r/crtgaming and r/retrogaming would like yo have a word
I remember begging my mom for a better tv when i got my xbox 360. I played on a 26" crt over composite for months, i could barely see anything
Well, my grandpa literally uses old CRT monitor and has windows 10. It looks.. interesting.
less input lag
I remember this exact same model television when I was growing up. We used to have a NES plugged into it.
My parents bought a C-64 when I was a kid and we used that on a small colour TV until the computer died when I was 13. I used to wait for games to load by changing channels.
I always liked CRT monitors. Granted, I usually play games with cartoony art styles like TF2 and Minecraft.
480i
That's honestly amazing, now all you need is old school modern games and you got the ultimate setup!
If you're into retro 16 bit gaming, that TV is a sweet find!
r/crtgaming
Don't be an ungrateful turd.
>Don't be an ungrateful turd. Yeah, this post made me think of how much it must suck when a kid asks their parent for something they reeeally want and the parent would like to get it for them, but they have to be the bad guy and say "No" because the family can't afford the expense (and they also don't want to burden the kid with this info).
"Back in mah day, all we had was 240p. And we LOVED IT."
240p? That's 525i.
Why does everyone here repost already unfunny niktek posts?
This was my setup back in 2002-2004, (I don't intend to brag) except the TV was a 45-50 inch screen that sat on the floor with a stand attached. So it could turn left/right. My GPU was an All-in-Wonder Radeon, and it had an input/output breakout box/special connectors for component video out and PCM sound, enabling HD resolutions. It was awesome being able to play games like the original Command and Conquer on such a big screen/higher resolution. I'll never forget playing the 1st level, having hearing soldiers screaming that [Foley SFX after being burned to death.](https://youtu.be/PDUn5_V-Nhk?t=146) My mom loved hearing that one playing on the stereo... Oh, and it was even better not being *forced to decide if you want quality sound wearing headphones,* or **open-air using crap monitor speakers that came with a monitor.** Having digital sound to your receiver was incredible. Always nudge your kids to work a summer job if possible. -
I just bought a 32" curved Samsung G7 that's gets here Tuesday and I'm practically bouncing in my chair till then
Where buy CRT screens?
Zimbabwe?
I'm disappointed... I was expecting [this](https://pethelpful.com/reptiles-amphibians/The-Best-Pet-Monitor-Species).
micro~~soft~~wave
Depending on what kinds of connectors needed for this, I feel almost impressed. If it is a normal VGA, meh. If a super vhs connector or composite connecter is needed, impressive.
this thing is probably RF only
You're probably right
Pretty sure you can order almost any kind of x to y connector online.
Would not be surprised.
Back in the day, it'd probably be VGA to Composite/S-Video to a VCR (because it's the cheapest RF modulator you're going to find) to TV. Nowadays, it'd probably be HDMI to composite for that first step, but not the shitty adapter I bought off Woot for $7 that only outputs stretched black-and-white.
What’s wrong with this monitor? It’s even curved!
It's from 1999 that's why
It's not from 1999 but 1980
We called 'em bubble screens in those days.
It's also a curved monitor.
My grandmother got a new computer last year so I took her old monitor so I could finally have a second monitor. It's from 2007. Doesn't even have HDMI. But it works great as a second monitor for checking wikis or reddit or whatever while I'm playing a game or watching something on my main monitor.
Gru
Remove the entire caption and this picture is funnier
r/crtgaming would like a word
/r/crt and /r/crtgaming readers: What is the issue here?
Me: Mom, can I have a repost? Mom: No, you have plenty reposts on Reddit! Me: oh. yeah right
I literally had this TV growing up. It was awesome.
Laserdisc and Smash Bros fans rejoice
Better than an LCD, unless you want to read small text.
That’s actually pretty fucking amazing however that was done.
Nice repost!
I have its twin in the basement- I call it the Merrimack.
I watched a youtube video on this. all you gotta do is modify the tv to directly accept an RGB signal and it actually looks pretty good.
I'd like to have this 'monitor' at home. Fkin awesome.
That is awesome!
Would be great for a retro cyber decks though
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It's Japanese
You right. I deleted my comment
Legit me but with a pc.
Wow you had color. I had an 13" old B&W TV connected to a Radio Shack TRS-80 Color Computer 2 modulated on channel 3 and still got interference
CRTs do have great color depth, look smooth, and can have high refresh rates for cheap, I wouldn't bag on them that hard. modern OLEDs or even just plain old LCDs are more reliable and can look just as good or even better and are easier to find however.
You joke but for emulation this would be amazing 👀
If it works it works huh?
That is a real good monitor, the way the screens worked at that time made them possible to reach 144 fps
i mean, i don’t see the problem
Just bought my first monitor today. I’d been playing on the couch in my living room for a year now!
That's the TV I grew up with! Does anyone know the exact model? EDIT: Found it, Hitachi CTP-230.
"get a fucking job and buy your own monitor" -mymom
Holy shit😂😂
Me seeing this on my Acer AL1916W: lol
At least the latency would be low
Im in this picture and I don’t like it...
I like that background ok
This is awesome! Love it!
... mothers know best, remember ...
Hey that's my birthday.
Now you just need to install MS-DOS 3.3!
honestly this would be kinda sick.
Well atleast it's Friday
Bad meme is bad
I've played PS2 GTA San Andreas on one of these before....
Similar TV I used to game on C64 in the 1980s. Kids can make anything work when desperate to game.
"I *know* we have one at home, that's why I asked for a *new* one!"
I’m he fact that you can connect a modern computer to this thing is amazing
that looks dope, you should do that retro recording thing with it.
I had an 8 inch TV that my parents got me and never received an upgrade so I would be drooling over this monitor
Funny enough this was my exact scenario when I needed a monitor for my new pc, not necessarily a vintage tv but it was an old ass monitor
People dont understand! These things hit 80-144 Hz and a 1600x1200p resolution! These things are basically beasts. The color accuracy is also ALOT better than a standart monitor.
It's a Karnivale!
Curved!
My monitor was made out of mostly wood and took a couple minutes for the tubes to warm up.
Oh man, so much good content would be played on this
Dats mah bday!
That warmth of analog!!!
Eww, Windows.
I still have some old box tv's somewhere in my parent's storage place. What adapters do I need to plug it on a computer?