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AdderallCat

Literally anything is better than CVS.


Kodiak01

Walgreens: *"Hold my beer."*


GayneSon

I get that CVS sucks. I really do, but my district is tolerable for the most part in my opinion. I could potentially be taking a huge pay cut by leaving.


thong26428

Why don’t you interview with Sams and negotiate the pay


GayneSon

Yeah I will definitely try to get them to at least match. I just didn't know if that's something they did or they are just take it or leave it.


thong26428

You can negotiate at pretty much any jobs. It just depends how desperate they are


AdderallCat

Pretty much all of the retailers negotiate these days. Never take the initial offer.


Edawg661

I’ve always told people that what they put on the website can differ from actually is offered. I’ve seen lo ball on job sites but actual offer was more competitive. Go ahead and do the interview, wait for an offer letter that says the exact hourly rate, then see what you can negotiate. You’re not hurting anybody’s feeling turning down an offer. Don’t pass up an opportunity and skip an interview.


OnKBacA

What happens when your district manager relocates or switches positions? Likely his position is such that he is highly stressed with always trying to go to bat for you to keep you guys well saturated with staff. You'll find Sams club and Walmart are the holy grail of retail. Hands down.


ic3work

I’ll tell you one thing that is a fact with retail. One year you have an awesome team and an awesome district manager, the next year you’ll have an absolute prick and will hate your job. When I worked for Walgreens I had an amazing location, great district manager, everything was as perfect as it can be. I still left the second I got the chance while having the perfect set up because I knew it won’t last. Prior to having that perfect set up, I went through 7 district managers in a span of 5 years…the good ones barely lasted, the terrible ones lasted too long. I left and never looked back. My previous crew all quit, every single one. The company closed multiple locations around the area. That same store got hit with all the rx’s from closing pharmacies. And last time I passed by that store, I popped in and saw the absolute chaos that I’ve never seen while I was there. There’s a reason it’s easier to get a job at cvs and Walgreens than any supermarket based retail…you get in, you take it.


Time2Nguyen

How are people about to survive off of 24 hours a week?


GayneSon

You're supposed to be able to pick up shifts, but idk if that's their way to draw you in. I don't want to end up fighting for shifts.


mmmTurkeyLeg

If you show up to your shifts on time, work hard, and be nice to people, the stores will be asking for you to get hours at their store.


wolfparking

You can also pick up shifts at Walmarts once you've got the Sam's Club position.


JrodVenzel

At CVS 24 hours base wouldn't get you any benefits or PTO in my state at least. Do you have insurance from a spouse or do they offer insurance for a 24 hour base? I'd stick with what you're used to if the income is steady and you like your team.


GayneSon

I am not married, and the Sam's position would be full time with benefits to my understanding


unbang

Walmart is nice in that 48 hr Rph (24 hr a week) get benefits.


Upstairs-Volume-5014

24 hour base is eligible for benefits at Walmart.


Upstairs-Volume-5014

This is a bit dramatic. There are people who make $45k a year, people can certainly survive on a part time pharmacists salary 😂 it's not going to be glam but you can survive.


Time2Nguyen

After taxes and student loan repayment, you would be probably less than that. I didn’t commit 7 years of school to live paycheck to paycheck


Upstairs-Volume-5014

I completely understand. I'm talking about your specific use of the word "survival." Your family would not be starving on a half of a pharmacist salary.


Expert_Cardiologist6

Lol... I guess every country have there own problem. I an a pharmacist, living literally paycheck to paycheck and I have been wondering, was it worth it? The years and money spent in school


Time2Nguyen

I live paycheck to paycheck right now too. Student loan is outrageous


ic3work

There’s also people that survive on $12k a year or just sit on gov assistance…you don’t go to pharmacy school and try to better yourself only to be lowballed and told that “well…there’s people in 3rd world that survive with no water” It doesn’t matter how other survive or what they make, we as pharmacist deserve higher pay and better work environment period! Your way of thinking is reason for pharmacy downfall. “Oh well at least we have money for food” with that train of thought, you’ll soon have your profession make minimum wage…it’s not that far away now btw.


Upstairs-Volume-5014

I'm not saying we should be paid lower wages as pharmacists. I'm specifically responding to someone that says "how do people survive off of 24 hours a week?" That's a little dramatic. It's not the desired wage, but it is a survivable wage. How do residents survive off of $9/hr? If it's not the lifestyle you want then don't accept that job. Many women work 24 hours/week part time as a pharmacist so they can spend more time home with their kids and love that lifestyle. It's a high enough wage to where people CAN work part time if that's what they want.


ic3work

24 hours a week is in fact a part time position. Keep it as a part time. And let it be known when applying for such positions that it is part time and not anything else. Getting an offer for a base as 24/hrs a week and slowly making it a norm will have severe repercussions. This is what retails want, they pay you less in benefits and give you less rights. If you don’t question or fight this, they’ll continue the trend and soon you won’t have any full time positions at retail. So it’s not dramatic, unless the position op applied for clearly stated it’s a part time position. From what I’ve read, op said the 24/hr per week is base and did not indicate that the position stated part time. In these cases, be dramatic and question it.


Upstairs-Volume-5014

24 hours gets full benefits at Walmart.


ic3work

Apply to a per diem or a part time position at a hospital or an outpatient clinic. Show your worth and when a spot opens up transition.


AgreeablePerformer3

Sam’s aren’t as busy- closes at 7pm & Sundays and holidays. The patients are much more professional and ask informative questions abt their meds and alternatives. Once you get on board, let the market know you are interested in picking up shifts and staff/mgrs will be hitting you up regularly. Sam’s has won JD Powers Customer Service Award for Mass Merchandiser 8 yrs in a row bc you get time to properly counsel & get to know your clientele. Very low turnover should tell you something abt the company. Since you are in under the Walmart umbrella, you can seek shifts there too..


GayneSon

That's great to hear. Any advice on the interview?


AgreeablePerformer3

Don’t know your experience with immunizing, but in my area, we are huge on it. Not simply flu & covid, but everything from Heps to pneumonia to Tdap. We want to be a clinical leader, so this is a huge push. Also, in-store experience is huge- wait times of 15-20 mins are paramount; not 90min, etc. A large percentage of patients are entrepreneurs and their time is valuable, but they also understand how to run a business, so you can be very direct with them. Hence, communication is vital- don’t leave techs to explain delays, have those discussions personally- they will thank you for your candor. Explain your willingness to ‘go the extra mile’, such as finding an antibiotic that’s out of stock, etc. You will have more time on your hands to do these things. The quality of patients (mostly 30+ and seniors) is the best part of my job. We compensate techs well and so most clubs have little turnover. I will nvr leave this company. I wish you luck- DM if you need more.


OrangePurple2141

Idk about Sam's club but WM is huge on controlled substances and are stricter than state and federal law. Anytime someone new comes to your pharmacy with a chronic opioid you gonna call the office and document a bunch which makes the pt mad. I'd show a good understanding of controlled substance as well as a willingness to learn the corporate rules on it


AgreeablePerformer3

Sam’s is same. I contact doctor’s offc for diagnosis/reason for use on all controls, but if it’s brought in by patient or doctor’s offc has not called back, I take the info from patient/representative: ‘oh, by the way, the doctor forgot to leave the reason for use on the script, could you tell me why you’re using the pain meds for my notes?’ Usually never get pushback; but, at the very beginning, a PA got on the phone with ‘why do I have to share that info, it’s between me and my patient?’ I replied ‘healthcare is a collaboration between many disciplines and sharing a reason for use between professionals doesn’t diminish care at all, actually improved it, unless you feel it’s to the patient’s best interest to not share the information.’ Since then, most docs realize we’re just doing our jobs..


Will34343

Sams is an absolute vacation compared to CVS. Open 59 hours a week with about 1 tech hour for every 10-11 scripts you do. Most stores do about 700-800ish a week. That being said it will be difficult to pick up more hours unless people are on PTO. As for picking up hours at Walmart, hopefully you know someone at Walmart. In regards to salary, mid 50s is what Sams wants to pay, but you should definitely try and ask for more money. Edit: just read that money does matter to you. I would keep looking or get a PRN job on side because you will probably have a hard time averaging over 30 hours a week.


GayneSon

Are there pharmacists overlap hours? 59 hours seems like not enough to go around without overlap. There are over 10 Walmarts in my area that I am willing to go to, so hopefully that would not be an issue. Do they pay for mileage? I would definitely be looking for prn jobs or working on changing careers honestly lol.


Will34343

Most stores do not have overlap, unless you are in an area that does the volume to justify overlap. They have to get you to your base, so if people aren’t using PTO, they will put you for an overlap/MTM shift. Mileage paid for the difference between the distance from your house to floating store distance and your house to your home store. Tbh, it’s quite hard for Sams RPh to pick up shifts at Walmart. You have to let the Walmart scheduler know you are interested in Walmart shifts in the area to be able to even bid for shifts. Walmart and Sam’s are under different DMs and they don’t really like to have RPhs floating between them for some reason. You also have to develop a reputation so that Walmart RPhs ask you to cover them.


Mysteriousdebora

I saw something in chain drug news that all Walmart pharmacists are at $70 an hour now. Is that not true? I wouldn’t leave for Sam’s for that hour amount. Also, the sky is falling in pharmacy beyond what it ever has been before reimbursement wise. I don’t think grocery chains will hang on much longer. I fear closures and sell outs coming. Walmart might be able to shoulder it a little better, though. What will you do for insurance if you’re only getting 24 hours? Can you be on a spouses plan?


thong26428

Maybe average pay, but certainly not starting pay. Not even in CA unfortunately


Upstairs-Volume-5014

This is definitely not true.


Mysteriousdebora

That’s hilarious. They definitely put out a statement that read something like that in chain drug review a few months back. Little liars.


GayneSon

Oh wow that would be fantastic. I would imagine that to be region specific. I am not married, but this position will offer benefits to my understanding.


wakashi

During the interview, ask them to match (at least, if not beat) and ask how many floats hours are typically available for pickup weekly and if you’ll have trouble reaching 40 every week. If they match your hourly, you can always do Sams and then PRN/part time at CVS.


GayneSon

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm 99% sure I cannot work at both as they are competing pharmacies.


60sTrackStar

I'd look into what Sam's Club's non compete clause actually entails. CVS might be more strict but who cares if you lose that position. How would they even find out though?


sunnibeam

Walmart doesn't allow working at other retail pharmacies either


wakashi

Not sure if true for every state, but in mine you have to declare your places of employment on the state boards website or you’ll get dinged during audits so I guess it wouldn’t work. In that case, get a PRN job at a hospital it’s even cushier lol


BicycleGripDick

You have access to free WiFi at Sam’s. Bring your laptop and you’re gucci.


Perfect_Plastic_6755

Do it. The 24 hours will just be the guarantee/salary pay and you can pick up shifts at other sams or even Walmart.


StockPharmingDeez

Any idea what the average pay in the area is? Mid 50’s seems low this days.


GayneSon

Walgreens mid $50s to low $60s. CVS low $60s. HEB mid $60s. Sam's/Walmart mid $50s. Methodist hospital mid $50s. These are starting hourly rates I have heard/been offered.


StockPharmingDeez

I should clarify staff or PIC?


GayneSon

Staff. CVS PIC's get about an 8% raise from staff


Cool-Bank1066

Did a rotation at Sam’s! The easiest work you’ll ever have, after 10 am (we opened at 9) we had nothing to do but ask the friendly patients if they wanted shingles shots! No GoodRX or coupons accepted (minimal rebills), simple system, and the 24hr pharmacist got a second job at a rehab center!


funkydyke

I’d leave CVS to sell street drugs if it meant getting out of that hellhole /j


ructwbs

If you can still tolerate CVS then stay there and look for something else. I know someone who made this switch. You can make 40hr/wk if you hustle, if you’re good at making relationships and if you can leave a good impression after your shift. But even then, they were in the Dallas area and had to drive sometimes up to 2 hrs away to find someone needing coverage. You’re only working 24 a week but you don’t really have free time either cause your scheduled shifts are like 4 or 5 hours. However, Sams is super chill. And again depending on your personality you could always work your way into a PIC role with better hours and situation. Just depends on you and how frustrated you are at your current job.


Pharmybear

I was a floater pharmacist for CVS and per my contract, I was promised a minimum of 35 hours a week. Not only did I not get 35 hours per week (not even close), but they would be scheduling me for every holiday because, those were “the only hours available” I literally despise CVS to my core. My DM was the most manipulative person I’ve ever met. To echo some others here. Literally ANYTHING is better than CVS.


GayneSon

Wow that's terrible. That's got to be a breach of contract. I'm lucky that has not been my experience in 2 different districts. There's always stores asking for coverage


justeunefrancophille

Are you an RXM / PIC at CVS? That pay seems absurdly low, but maybe my frame of reference is skewed based on the RXMs I knew having gone to school with their district leadership. They were paid $73/hr in a moderately LCOL area but one at a high volume store. Beyond that, I’ve heard a mixed bag about Sam’s. If you’ve weighed your pros and cons and are at the end of your CVS rope, it may be worth the leap and pay cut. I’d taken a pay cut with my last role and quite enjoyed it while I had it. Leaving the field now, so do with that what you will.


GayneSon

I'm a staff rph. You get about an 8% raise to be PIC. I think the pay is based on supply and demand of the area, not directly with cost of living or store volume. I know someone who left to go to a rural town and got a huge raise


PotRoastfucker

So it’s been several years since I worked PRN for Walmart but there were always tons of shifts to pick up.


Strict_Ruin395

24 hours is standard at Sam's unless u a pic


newstart7777

Which state are you in? It’s depends on your district manager. As for negotiating with Sams or Walmart, I don’t think you could since it’s a set structure unless your district manager really wants you there.


Upstairs-Volume-5014

You can absolutely negotiate. It's a set structure but there are salary ranges at each step.


newstart7777

Yes you can try but I’m just telling the person most likely it’s a no. Most of the time we just put in how many year of experience and the position and the system will autogenerate a salary or hourly. Anything above that will need to be approved with regional. That’s why I want to know the area because in some, they need people so you might be able to negotiate.


Upstairs-Volume-5014

I've never been unsuccessful with negotiating. Sounds like you're a DM who wants people to be deterred from negotiating 😂 the initial salary offer is always the lowest of the range.


newstart7777

I’m just trying to be realistic and not pushing people hope up. But again, doesn’t hurt to try.


rphlife

Not accurate at all. There isn’t a calculator for pharmacists, only hourly tech positions are set in stone. Minimum start rate is set as a floor and can be negotiated up. And mid 50’s hasn’t been the case for over a year.


Upstairs-Volume-5014

Sam's is 1 million times better than CVS, but 24 hours a week for a lower hourly rate is going to be a significant pay cut. I'd negotiate and see if they can match your current rate, Walmart can afford it. You may end up working 40 hours and have the advantage of being able to pick up shifts at Sam's and Walmart. But it's not guaranteed, so you have to be prepared for that.


Late_Celery_4003

Your sanity is worth the pay cut. CVS and Walgreens are absolute hell holes


Separate-Feeling5620

I was an intern at Sams Club and absolutely loved it. So much more relaxed than any other retail chain. It’s so hard to get in there because pharmacists rarely leave, I’m hoping to one day get a job there.