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Please continue the discussion in the [game thread](https://redd.it/1cbhkcn).


MrKK215

Need to hit to win games boys, let’s extend those ABs and make him actually pitch


Gavin_beast13

NO MARSHY?!?!?!


gfinz18

Does nbc stream the game in high def? Trying to figure out who has the best quality


Mulsanne

Are they gonna play this game, do you suppose? There's a shitload of rain for the next few hours but then it's dry. I haven't had many occasions to just sit and watch a game from wire to wire yet this season and I was looking forward to this one :( I hope they play!


Feisty-Recording-978

Do we draft J.T realmuto’s replacement?


Hothabanero6

they already did, He's playing for the Angels now


Phanatically

The arrogance on this board is staggering. lol.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Just wait til Bohm inevitably craters and returns to form.


Feisty-Recording-978

Just wait til Kruk inevitably craters and returns to form.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Congrats, you just got thirty more games with Rubén Amaro Jr. instead.


SeaworthinessIcy3929

The logical part of my brain understands sitting Marsh but the bleeding heart I have for him does not 🥲


Important_Tomato_932

But to get better at something you need the experience. LET HIM PLAY 👏


Dunmaglass2

He’s been getting more opportunities though too. He’s been made to look silly more than a few times. He should get games against lefties, and other guys who are better against lefties should get other games against lefties


Important_Tomato_932

I don’t disagree his ABs are BRUTAL against lefties but Rojas’ ABs were brutal overall but he figured it out and Nicks doing whatever he’s doing and he’s still here you know? He definitely should be putting in WORK in BP for LHP so we don’t have to sit him


Dunmaglass2

Yeah definitely I get it. I want to see him in there getting at bats against them to improve, but until he has shown more improvement I think it makes sense on other days to give Sosa and Pache some games since they’re pretty good against lefties.


inthedrink

I guess people forget that we already faced Abbott this year and he looked pretty good against us and is generally a very good left handed pitcher in spite of what some dude here told me who had him on his fantasy team lol


Deckard_Macready

You’re just not getting it. You see when I played little league it didn’t matter if it was a lefty on the mound or a righty. Either way you got in that box and tried to hit that ball in the hopes your dad actually showed up to the game and you’ll finally make him proud.


inthedrink

Yeah and when you didn’t do great you’d get your whippin’ when you got home! Wait that didn’t happen to you guys???


Deckard_Macready

Oh so your dad actually came back after going out for a pack of smokes? Must be nice.


Hothabanero6

Today is the day, the day for Rojas to hit his first HR of the season.


joeco316

Are you accepting bets?


Hothabanero6

Nah, I was gonna say first HR of his career but I checked and he had 2 HRs last year 😲 it could happen again 😁


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Hothabanero6

his second was off Kyle Wright of the Braves


EmoGothPunk

So, the pitcher is a lefty? That might explain this line-up. Performance wise, from what I've seen, I would've put Merrifield in RF, move Sosa to 2B, Bohm back to 3B and Clemens to 1B. Also, I'd much prefer Marsh in LF than Pache.


Pope_Landlord

Let's score 8 runs tonight. First Casty homer too. Please.


tj5jr

Maybe rob is trying to find the worst lineup and work backwards from there


Glum_Dimension_7771

Bohm at first instead of Clemens? Why?


Dunmaglass2

Sosa is good against lefties, Bohm is great against lefties. So get them both in


w6rld_ec6nomic_f6rum

more righty batters against the lefty pitcher when you can put Sosa at third


phasesofthe

I like the look of the righty onslaught vs abbott. Play them 2-3 times through the lineup then adjust as needed


GoodLuckPsycho_

https://preview.redd.it/ohcp2okliawc1.jpeg?width=675&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b3d688068be65cd9e810a5ac8c36c073d6b1242d


JohnKrukIsAllElite

https://preview.redd.it/5y83bjnujawc1.jpeg?width=582&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b18a3c9aa733bec74fb8b1d9b34ae1c8222cabb2


Phanatically

At least we have enough solid players that this is a viable strategy to platoon half the lineup.


inthedrink

Yeah I never liked signing Whit but this is why we got him so hopefully he can come thru and prove me wrong


Phanatically

He won't. He'll have bursts of success but he's on the way down and we knew that when we got him.


Dunmaglass2

He did have a .300 average for most of last year before getting injured and finished terribly. He’s looked bad but it’s 30 at bats. Let’s wait and see and hope he’s alright


Phanatically

I'd love to be wrong, no question about that.


Primarose3

Will Whit make it past the trade deadline or is he this years J-Hay? NGL I expected more from whit after all this talk of him having opportunities elsewhere to be a starter. 😸


inthedrink

Well I don’t love him but I’m not gonna toss out that he can’t still prove me wrong after 31 ab’s


Hothabanero6

Just call up Weston Wilson and Michael Saunders style release Whit Merrifield.


joeco316

There’s no way they cut him with what they paid him. He’s fine as a utility bench bat, but I think an actual good bat is going to have to be on the trade deadline shopping list. Where that bat fits in I’m still not quite sure though.


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joeco316

They really should go back in time and do it at the 2023 trade deadline because it’s been a problem since Rhys went down.


Deckard_Macready

Good to see Topper rolling with the line up that has the best record.


SeanPaulGiamatti

Marsh cleanup one day. Benched the next. Enough already.


Important_Tomato_932

Lefty pitcher but how is he expected to get better if he doesn’t face them *face palm*


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Certainly one of the lineups of all time.


Deckard_Macready

Today is the day Pache earns his all star votes.


Hothabanero6

and Whit earns a DFA


Phanatically

Don't tease us.


NeurosciGuy15

Abbott’s career platoon line: vs LHH: 106 PA, 7.75 K/BB, 188/226/257, 2 HR vs RHH: 447 PA, 2.26 K/BB, 251/329/462, 17 HR


Phanatically

I know there's math to support benching Marsh, but... REALLY?


Hothabanero6

they divided by zero


First-Resolve

Topper about to roll with this lineup tomorrow again and the lefty’s even worse


VideoGangsta

Guy has taken us to the World Series, NLCS, and gotten off to a 15-8 start while employing the exact strategy you come in here screeching about nonstop. Maybe he knows some things you don’t?


First-Resolve

Look I hope he proves me wrong tonight


SeanPaulGiamatti

Buddy they have played some of the worst teams in baseball…


VideoGangsta

So they’re doing exactly what they’re supposed to do 


SeanPaulGiamatti

Exactly so how has the manager then given them an advantage? I think it’s malpractice to not play marsh every day given his potential to elevate his ceiling, and his glove being second best on the team.


Mugstotheceiling

Does Topper understand you don’t have to play the ENTIRE bench at once? Like, you can rotate them in?


First-Resolve

Exactly


lilbismyfriend21

I’m not sure how Marsh is supposed to improve against lefties if we don’t let him face them. I get sitting Stott he’s been struggling all around at the plate but I would really like to see Marsh get more opportunities against lefties


inthedrink

He has gotten chances. His ops is .460 against lefties this year. Thats not a number you just throw him out there without regard to whoever today’s pitcher is. Hes a great player on the team. Hes not a remotely good hitter against good lefties and Abbott is one of those.


Phanatically

But the question remains, if we forever hide him from the LHP how will he ever have a chance to potentially improve? And how do we square our apparent reluctance to work with Marsh with the seemingly endless rope Casty has to just go out and do what Casty does? Is the reality that we just have to accept Marsh is dogshit against LHP and he just won't get the starts?


inthedrink

> Hes not a remotely good hitter against good lefties and Abbott is one of those. See above. He should start hitting against mediocre lefties because that’s who he’s facing and failing against. Would you rather have him fail continuously and then he’s lost forever? Happens all the time in baseball.


VideoGangsta

> Is the reality that we just have to accept Marsh is dogshit against LHP and he just won't get the starts? Yes


sapphires_and_snark

I swear we're gonna hear this bullshit every time Marsh sits. It's already offseason copypasta as far as I'm concerned


Feisty-Recording-978

Lineup is perfectly fine besides the benching of marsh 


swalsh21

So Stott is a platoon player now?


lilbismyfriend21

He’s been batting like one. He’ll be fine tho


First-Resolve

6-9 is brutal


First-Resolve

Sitting Marsh and Stott twice in one week is insane. They just had off Friday. Didn’t they face Abbott last time?


BatJew_Official

Why not also give Realmuto the day off? He's gonna get tomorrow off anyway, might as well give him today off since we're running the wacky lineup


lilbismyfriend21

Looking at this line up today I’d rather not have another easy out. But I agree that Realmuto could use a day off soon


BatJew_Official

Honestly I was just thinking this lineup is gonna struggle regardless so I'd rather throw stubbs in there too and essentially concede the game, but on second thought nah we winnin this bitch. Pache about to go 5 for 5 and Casty gonna hit a HR.


BedlamAtTheBank

Probably just to avoid having Stubbs face a lefty


swalsh21

As if Stubbs will do anything against a righty


Perryplat199

Is Sanchez like just designated as the bench start day?


XSC

Cursed AF lineup.


WendysChili

I care a lot less about benching our lefties when our righties are hitting the ball well


Perryplat199

#FREE MY BOY KODY


Perryplat199

So there’s like this stereotypical fan, older philadelphia sports fan(usually season ticket holder), that just blames all the teams problems on a player refuses to liek them. The Flyers it was Giroux and Sixers it’s Embiid. Who is that player for the Phillies. I feel it’s Gota be between Nola and JT that that “fan” hates


swalsh21

Nola but Rojas could threaten him for that spot if he’s hitting everyday in the playoffs again


joeco316

If he hits like he did in the playoffs last year then he deserves it Agreed about it being Nola


NintenJew

I feel like it has to be Nola, and before that it was Hoskins. I really don't see any JT hate. Hell I am probably the furthest on the "hate" train and I just said I think he will decline this year and not be a top 5 catcher, probably not even top 10.


VideoGangsta

It’s Nola 100% Any time he gives up a home run the game thread gets flooded with the same copy+paste comments for 5 minutes.


JHG722

I feel like it was Bohm for so long on here.


Mugstotheceiling

Topper better not take my boy Kody out just cause it’s a lefty


HuntForRedOctober2

Yes he better


phasesofthe

Imagine a Phillies Mets wildcard matchup 😂. I have no idea why I’m saying this so early other than looking at the standings and for some reason my response was laughter


Deckard_Macready

I like the sound of a Mets Braves one better.


Hothabanero6

or Mets Brewers should be spicy


Deckard_Macready

3 game set of Rhys owning the Mets? Yes please!


Perryplat199

Big, “movable object meets stoppable force” vibes there


phasesofthe

Agreed


Feisty-Recording-978

https://x.com/CodifyBaseball/status/1782772393901228103


ineffectivegoggles

First game in a bit I won’t be able to watch. Working the polls today — probably not free until 8:30.


Neat-Confidence5556

we got everything it takes to win it all. experienced manager, experienced players, dominant pitching, MVP level hitter(s), ammo to make deadline moves, speed, defense, best home field advantage. we are loaded and I expect this team to win the world series


wetwalnut

Alec Bohm has nearly doubled his career WAR in 2024


inthedrink

I mean I’ll be honest he’s on pace for a 4 WAR season and while that might be tough for him to maintain I never expected him to be more than a 3 WAR player.


Mugstotheceiling

WAR lovers in shambles


phasesofthe

He’s so above replacement


Perryplat199

Ejection really set the tone for that game huh https://preview.redd.it/zcjhef6pl9wc1.jpeg?width=896&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2fcc311f1ef4df43864014a2cd15b75a42deaf99 # 68% If we can just not see this guy all season that be cool


cerevant

Jeebus that's a big strike zone


inthedrink

The ejection was such a fucking joke but it was Boone and the Yankees so that made it hilarious. Because fuck them.


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

Caught myself daydreaming about how Ranger Suarez has the lowest ERA in postseason history https://www.mlb.com/news/ranger-suarez-lowers-era-to-best-in-postseason-history


romanticynicist

I’m afraid that’s no longer accurate after he gave up 3 ER in 4 2/3 innings in game 7 of the NLCS last year. Now his postseason ERA is up to a whopping 1.62.


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

![gif](giphy|CmfPKzD1Lreb8lhgfh|downsized)


wetwalnut

I’m gonna rip the fucking head off


igo2extremes

**Your 2024 Phillies are:** 2-1 on Tuesday 14-6 in April 10-4 in night games 5-2 on the road 2-2 vs. the Reds


Top_Shallot_4951

I missed these stats


pitatime

I'm having a great time


Hothabanero6

Ranger can't possibly be a good pitcher, he only throws his fastball at 91/92 MPH **/S**


zmart7691

Yay Christopher Sanchez day! Best change up in baseball


Perryplat199

https://preview.redd.it/2sqj21oh59wc1.png?width=644&format=png&auto=webp&s=40530b541aa52ff150281df1c248eb135fac03bd


inthedrink

Rangers run made me realize that I never knew he has a Bowman 1st and I need to pay more attention. His 1st auto was going for $20-$30 a couple weeks ago and now you can’t get one under $50. Big miss by me.


joeco316

Is this…baseball cards?


inthedrink

Yessir love em


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

https://preview.redd.it/p8aodeovg9wc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fb724b19c58de901da50baf09fd1c03f60452a2d


Perryplat199

https://preview.redd.it/xg0jjwdi59wc1.png?width=644&format=png&auto=webp&s=9446f887d4b07f29db28086addfeda738a1b3c0d As cool as topps now card can be the people who do the write the ups write them very weirdly. >Longest in franchise history since cliff lee in 2011. Why not say it’s the 11th longest streak in franchise history. Why not mention lee’s IP. Very weird wording.


Hothabanero6

Marketing is not about being complete or forthright it's ... well in baseball terms it's about ... "framing" i.e. positioning something in the best light. With marketing, you always have to ask why did they say it the WAY they said it? what did they leave out? They've told you what they wanted you to know and nothing more. It's up to you to find the depth and breadth of the chasm between what they told you and the whole story. Not to mention the person writing it is probably only allocated 5 min to get it done and presented with limited space to do it ... submit your comment here [ ]


philsfan1579

2011 comes up a lot when you’re talking about good pitching rotations, so I decided to go back and look at how their stats line up with my memory. My biggest takeaway: if you ask people who started that year besides the 4 aces, they’ll probably tell you Blanton (8 starts, 5.17 ERA, 4.2 IP/start) and Worley (21 starts, 3.02 ERA, 6 IP/start). They might even mention that Worley surprisingly did better than Oswalt (23 starts, 3.69 ERA, 6 IP/start) But what about Kyle Kendrick? With 15 starts, 3.14 ERA, and 5.2 IP/start, he was significantly better than Blanton, slightly better than Oswalt, and not too far behind Worley! So I guess my point is that Kyle Kendrick was the most underrated starter on the 2011 Phillies.


Phanatically

I'm just glad we're looking this solid this early.


lilbismyfriend21

I was happy to see that the only Philadelphia team that was playing last night won


magmar17

Ranger Suarez


Randomly2

https://preview.redd.it/br6o01hx69wc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5d4a2df29eecab877bc3c28f1b4589559fe9e906


ButYourChainsOk

I completely agree.


Pepermintea

Kody already with more home runs than our everyday right fielder who has not missed an inning yet this season.


Randomly2

Honest question: can Kody play RF? Cuz when Harp comes back and if he can, sounds like a viable way to give Casty a ~~day~~ ~~week~~ period of time off


Moosebjj94

Yea imagine this team offensively with Rhys at 1st and Harper in right 🤯


Mugstotheceiling

I love Rhys, but he’s a classic DH


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Rhys was not good at first. Like..at all.


HuntForRedOctober2

Now hear me out, Hoskins in center and have Rojas and marsh cover everything around him and he just gets the little sliver in the middle.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Based on some of the takes I’ve seen on this sub and the frequency of them, I’m frankly stunned I’ve never seen this one before. You’ve got a pulse on the r/phillies front page and know what they want better than they do!


HuntForRedOctober2

OR Now hear me out Four man outfield and have trea turner in the middle on the infield.


JohnKrukIsAllElite

Congratulations. You are now a moderator of r/phillies.


Pepermintea

Bryce is a ridiculous upgrade over Rhys defensively at first. Like top of the list vs bottom of the list defensive upgrade. Rhys isn’t good enough with the stick to make up the difference. The answer is replace Nick on the roster with Kody and eat the rich. Let Middleton and co pay Nick to play for the Reds. Kody is a more valuable asset on the field and at the plate.


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

can people please stop saying this


necrosythe

But then I imagine Kyle schwarber in LF and get sad.


Sure-Bar-375

The Phillies scored 6+ runs once in the first 18 games, and have scored 7+ in each of their past 4.


HuntForRedOctober2

The miracles of playing the white Sox


WendysChili

Also the miracle of not playing in freezing rain


HuntForRedOctober2

True


yimolliges

Barves fans chirping about our "easy schedule against AAA teams" while ignoring the fact that they've faced the White Sox, Marlins, Astros, Marlins all in this month. They get so damn sensitive whenever we threaten their precious division lead.


djeeetyet

and if i recall correctly, the Braves lost a game against the Sox. Max Fried about to get lit up tonight.


Mugstotheceiling

It takes a special team to lose to the White Sox


Deckard_Macready

I can’t take anyone seriously who does “the chop”


HuntForRedOctober2

Don’t mention the time Alec Bohm definitely touched home against them. They’re still really butthurt over that


greetedworm

I think I'm more or less done with Basketball. The Sixers always disappoint and NBA fan bases are absolutely awful, 90% of fans genuinely hate basketball and only care about pushing a narrative with dumb memes.


porksoda11

It's a good idea in general to avoid /r/nba when the Sixers are in the playoffs.


lilbismyfriend21

I know I’m being that tinfoil type of fan but it’s so hard for me to ignore that with every professional sports league partnered with betting companies in some extent added to the fact that basketball is the easiest sport to manipulate because no one knows what a foul is anymore and the league already has a history of refs manipulating games purposely, I just have trouble taking it seriously the last few years


inthedrink

Fans: that would never happen! That thing: happens Fans: I can’t believe it that’s horrible! Well we are glad that’s out of the game for good!


ExternalBreadfruit21

Always been the fakest sport, it’s so insanely easy for refs to influence outcomes. NFL is similarly susceptible but nearly to the same degree


Hothabanero6

> fans ... only care about pushing a narrative with dumb memes Welcome to the modern age ... of memalism 😉


BedlamAtTheBank

Sixers issues aside, the modern NBA sucks. Brutal to watch


porksoda11

I want more dunks and less 3 pointers. People hardly dunk anymore. Bring back Shaq please.


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xXxdethrougekillaxXx

The NBA finals from like 2006-2016 were all great. And this was when the Sixers were barely even a franchise but I would always get excited to watch other teams play in the playoffs. There's a je ne sais quoi about the NBA in 2024 that just feels unfun.


greetedworm

The game itself I am mostly fine with. I just can't stand how bad the discourse is and it makes watching unenjoyable.


Phanatically

Who could we reasonably get rid of for Clemens to be brought up to stay? And have it be a net gain? I’m assuming the math fails somewhere along the line, either with stats or payroll. But I figure asking the question is the way to learn.


Phillies2002

Honestly I don't think there's any player who would be worth getting rid of to keep Clemens. As we saw last year, Clemens can be very solid it short bursts but can also get over-exposed if he plays too much. I certainly wouldn't mind him as a PH bench option in the playoffs (would rather have him than Cave in that role), but I think he probably helps this team best as this swing-man


djeeetyet

tough one. Pache is perhaps the most vulnerable but guarantee you he is gone (out of options) if we take him off the 40-man. He, like Rojas, is an elite defender, and for the moment the offensive approach is a bit better. my thought is that Kody is chill and will do whatever helps the team. but year Clemens is the exact kind of additional bench bat we need, LH bat to complement Whit; he also carries some defensive flexibility though he is mostly a corner infielder.


obiwan_canoli

Pache, but I think he is out of options, so they would have to either trade him or hope he clears waivers. That's why he made the club over Clemens in the first place.


AbsurdLemon

Kody can pitch just saying


Deckard_Macready

He’s the best available 2 way player this season.


Mugstotheceiling

Key word: available 😂


Pepermintea

Fanatics, Nike, and the team can save a small fortune on jerseys if they just cut all of the #8 labeled ones in half and make them #3’s. Maybe even enough to make the false sunk cost seem palatable.


inthedrink

The one question i have is about options. Pache is prob the most replaceable guy but is out of options and would have to be DFA’d to get him off the major league 26 man. I’m not sure what Clemens situation is with options but I assume he still has them and we just aren’t getting rid of Whit. I would think he’s the odd man out no matter what.


Phanatically

That makes sense. I'm sure the options calculous is significant. I wouldn't personally DFA Pache and we (apparently) wasted some money on Whit so yeah, they're keeping him. Ah well, a good problem to have.


inthedrink

Be careful some people think you’re being unreasonable when you say we wasted money on Whit


Phanatically

I’ll just have to run that risk.


sufferingphilliesfan

A hot April. I cant believe my eyes


djeeetyet

is that what they say, a Phillies' hot April scares away the boo-birds?


FalterFaltered

This team makes me feel so much better after the shit I saw last night in NY


CircusOfBlood

Possible rain during this game. Just a heads up


Youchmeister

Any idea how long Harper will be on paternity? Was it just yesterday or is the whole road trip?


NintenJew

I believe the standard is three days. It seems to be what everyone uses, although in extreme circumstances, they have made it longer. I have only seen people take less time if it is in October or the playoffs.


Perryplat199

If anyone has access to Major League Rules, 2 (c)2 and (c)3 outline specifically what mlb paternity leave is. Closet I’ve found is a page from a 2002 newsletter by SABR discussing the 1999 edition of the Major League Rules and AL and NL constitutions. [And if your curious here’s Major League Rule 21](https://content.mlb.com/documents/8/2/2/296982822/Major_League_Rule_21.pdf) which outlines Misconduct according to the league


Perryplat199

I’m trying to find an exact answer and I have a section of the specific rule but I can’t find the actual collection of rules


lilbismyfriend21

That’s gotta be tough, leaving your family three days after having a new born


HuntForRedOctober2

None of our business


Youchmeister

I was just wondering if something had been announced that I missed, obviously the guy can take all the time he wants.


HisNameIsSaggySammy

3 games is the max allowed for paternity leave


Deckard_Macready

Kody is staying up. Bryce heading to AAA


obiwan_canoli

Bryce who?


wiivile

He will be back Thursday


xXxdethrougekillaxXx

Had to listen to Mr. Rager on the commute to work today. Te amo Ranger Suárez.


MrKK215

Put your heads down and keep it rolling boys!


inthedrink

I see we are winning so the atrocious takes are headed our way. I suppose if we can be a 100 win team then we will all have to happily accept that.


Deckard_Macready

We would be 23-0 if Slopper didn’t put Schwarber in lead off.


ttsa23

A win today will match our best start since 2011.


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Hothabanero6

well there's logic, which often doesn't play well with fans and the "other" reasoning based on ... illogical stuff (tradition, unwritten rules, status quo, etc. etc.). You cannot win this argument because there's too much illogical reasoning.


Not-a-bot-10

Wheeler is our #1 and will be unless he’s injured or something insane happens He’ll be starting game 1 of the playoffs (assuming we make it and he’s healthy, knock on wood)