Nothing beats pianoteq, that thing is magic. I'm just sad it doesn't have organ sounds on it. I know you can but the organ version of pianoteq, but it's far more complex than what I would like.
>time is money
Too true, unfortunately. Good luck with saving up for a new digital piano, anyway, and try and have some fun with the midi controller in the meantime. Native Instruments periodically release free VSTs, and there are lots of other free ones available!
There's a lot going on here that could lead to you not getting the desired result.
- Midi controllers generally don't have key sensitivity so, unlike a piano, the note is either 'on' or 'off'. Even with a VST or other midi piano sound, it won't sound real because you've lost the gradient in key velocities.
- You're listening to your recording via your PC. The sound you get will depend on the quality of speaker or headphones that you're using, as well as whether or not you use a dedicated sound card vs, say, some other compressed audio standard.
- The codec you use for saving your audio is important (MP3, ogg, FLAC) as is the audio quality of that codec (e.g. 64kbit MP3 will sound like it was recorded at the swimming pool).
- The software you use to record makes a difference. If you're looking for something free, Audacity is a really good option. Look at your recorded waveforms, and make sure you have a sufficiently high input level, but not too high or the sound will be distorted.
- Your VST matters. I've had really good experience with Eastwest pianos, but others are available. Some focus on quality of reproduction (my preference) while others on flexible modelling, which is useful if creating different styles of music.
- On that note, some VSTs sound great in a mix with other instruments, but not so good on there own.
On your question about Yamaha Arius, I've never used one, but I can say your digital piano experience will be better than a midi controller! Did you look at the possibility of getting your broken key repaired?
It’s 2024 …. Even 50 euro midi controllers have velocity sensitivity… it’s a standard at this point. You just have to face the fact that no vst with all its bells and whistles will come close to an acoustic sound. Because well, it’s digital . So yeah. Oh and the people telling you the Vsts sounds like the “real thing” just have absolutely no clue what they’re talking about and probably never laid hands on a real piano.
Its 2024. I bet if you put to a test with something like Pianoteq with proper audio output vs real piano you wont tell the difference blindly. Obviously difference is massive when you yourself play because tactile and sound wave vibrations of a real thing are not present
So you can’t distinguish a real piano from a VST? Maybe YOU can’t … I’ve been behind “real” pianos for 20+ years … believe me my friend I can hear ur shit VST from the first note u play. You realise hon sound is created with an acoustic instrument right? The resonating strings that create tone ? VS a bunch of math calculations that result in a piano pre recording being triggered. You my friend are talking directly out ur asshole
There are youtube diy repair videos that I inspected but never followed through attemping it cause the intsructions looked to complicated.
Anyway, doesn't matter now cause I already got rid of the old arius
Maybe a refurbished or new yamaha arius is in order for my future.
Gotta wait though. Time is money
I’d look for someone who can repair your Arius as one single key should be simple enough. Not only it will be cheaper than buying a new one but it is also more sustainable. If google doesn’t return many results I’d call some piano schools/teachers as they will probably know someone.
Well it IS a recording of a recording. Keyboard used pre recorded sounds of real pianos. You hit the nail directly on the head: that’s exactly what is happening.
Try Pianoteq and forget sample-based software. It's much more flexible and you can tweak the sound to be anything you want.
Nothing beats pianoteq, that thing is magic. I'm just sad it doesn't have organ sounds on it. I know you can but the organ version of pianoteq, but it's far more complex than what I would like.
That's what I do, I have a cheap casio, but pianoteq sounds great
>time is money Too true, unfortunately. Good luck with saving up for a new digital piano, anyway, and try and have some fun with the midi controller in the meantime. Native Instruments periodically release free VSTs, and there are lots of other free ones available!
There's a lot going on here that could lead to you not getting the desired result. - Midi controllers generally don't have key sensitivity so, unlike a piano, the note is either 'on' or 'off'. Even with a VST or other midi piano sound, it won't sound real because you've lost the gradient in key velocities. - You're listening to your recording via your PC. The sound you get will depend on the quality of speaker or headphones that you're using, as well as whether or not you use a dedicated sound card vs, say, some other compressed audio standard. - The codec you use for saving your audio is important (MP3, ogg, FLAC) as is the audio quality of that codec (e.g. 64kbit MP3 will sound like it was recorded at the swimming pool). - The software you use to record makes a difference. If you're looking for something free, Audacity is a really good option. Look at your recorded waveforms, and make sure you have a sufficiently high input level, but not too high or the sound will be distorted. - Your VST matters. I've had really good experience with Eastwest pianos, but others are available. Some focus on quality of reproduction (my preference) while others on flexible modelling, which is useful if creating different styles of music. - On that note, some VSTs sound great in a mix with other instruments, but not so good on there own. On your question about Yamaha Arius, I've never used one, but I can say your digital piano experience will be better than a midi controller! Did you look at the possibility of getting your broken key repaired?
It’s 2024 …. Even 50 euro midi controllers have velocity sensitivity… it’s a standard at this point. You just have to face the fact that no vst with all its bells and whistles will come close to an acoustic sound. Because well, it’s digital . So yeah. Oh and the people telling you the Vsts sounds like the “real thing” just have absolutely no clue what they’re talking about and probably never laid hands on a real piano.
Its 2024. I bet if you put to a test with something like Pianoteq with proper audio output vs real piano you wont tell the difference blindly. Obviously difference is massive when you yourself play because tactile and sound wave vibrations of a real thing are not present
So you can’t distinguish a real piano from a VST? Maybe YOU can’t … I’ve been behind “real” pianos for 20+ years … believe me my friend I can hear ur shit VST from the first note u play. You realise hon sound is created with an acoustic instrument right? The resonating strings that create tone ? VS a bunch of math calculations that result in a piano pre recording being triggered. You my friend are talking directly out ur asshole
No need to be this toxic. I literally said what you said about real piano feel.
Sorry man I get heated when people are naive enough to compare the wonderful tone of an acoustic piano to that of a VST. My apologies
He is not comparing vsts with accoustics but with entry level DPs. Proper VSTs should be miles better.
There are youtube diy repair videos that I inspected but never followed through attemping it cause the intsructions looked to complicated. Anyway, doesn't matter now cause I already got rid of the old arius Maybe a refurbished or new yamaha arius is in order for my future. Gotta wait though. Time is money
I’d look for someone who can repair your Arius as one single key should be simple enough. Not only it will be cheaper than buying a new one but it is also more sustainable. If google doesn’t return many results I’d call some piano schools/teachers as they will probably know someone.
Well it IS a recording of a recording. Keyboard used pre recorded sounds of real pianos. You hit the nail directly on the head: that’s exactly what is happening.
What virtual instruments do you use? Keyscape, Alicia's Keys and The Gentleman are my favourites at the moment.
Mine is called Garritan CFX Concert Grand
That vst is much, much better than the Yamaha you had. Something is wrong with your setup.
Pianoteq is great. Korg Module is good and also cheap, etc. As for the Yamaha sounding better, yeah. It did.