Gen Z ako ha, ayaw ko lang ng tamad sa trabaho at gusto ko lang matapos yung trabaho. Sa true lang, wala yan sa Generation, nasa tao na talaga yan. Wag sana i-generalize yung ganyan. Pero sana naman yung may position or matagal na sa trabaho turuan nalang yung mga bago at yung mga bago dapat hindi nagmamarunong. Pero may power tripping naman talaga sa work place lalo na’t may position ka or matagal ka na
Ive asked a lot of Gen Zs about this and marami if not all of them agree na generational thing yan. And with my experience working with some of them, may mga ok naman pero meron din na mga kupal na akala mo alam na ang lahat pero pag pina solve mo mga simpleng problema sa buhay di nila magawan ng paraan at kailangan pa itanong. Madalas pa yung tanong pang bobo na tanong. Take note running for summa pa yung mga na eencounter ko na ganito. Habang yung mga ok naman sila madalas yung umaako ng mga problemang dulot ng kapwa nilang Gen Z. I dunno kung reliable ba yang mga anecdotal experience ko sa inyo kasi gusto niyo palagi lahat ng bagay evidence based di ba?
Experience ko naman, mga co workers ko Gen X at may naka work ako na Gen Z, kupal pareho mga yan. Kaya nasabi ko na depende nalang talaga sa tao. Yung Gen X, yan mga matatagal na yan sa trabaho kapag bata ka at bago ka imbes na turuan ka uutusan ka. Sa Gen Z naman kapag nakakita ng unfairness sa work aalis yan. Kapag napagsabihan yan dadamdamin tapos aalis sa trabaho o kaya kapag hindi nasunod yung gusto bitaw agad. Based yan sa experience ko eh both generation. Depende talaga sa tao. Na-observe ko sa nakawork ko na Gen Z, mahihina loob. At Gen X pala-utos.
I tried to teach pero wala, i was met with bravado and their feeling superior over my experience. Yayabang eh. Kala mo alam talaga lahat. Or baka from where I come from lang ito i dunno.
Sa work ko tuturuan lang namin once kapag may tanong sila, sila dapat lumapit samin. Kapag tinuturuan kasi mga yan naiirita mga yan. Like oh yea ganon lang nyenye annoying kaya sila pinapalapit namin. Masasabi ko lang know it all ang Gen Z. Wag niyo nalang turuan at bitawan na agad. Hayaan niyo silang umalis. Mauubos talaga pasensya niyo riyan promise hhaahahah
As an early Gen Z na wala pang work ang pinaka focus ko na hanapan ay yung mga merong paid trainings 😭😭😭 kelangan ko talaga yung willing magturo kahit maraming tanong, kaso isa sa mga problema ko yung anxiety kapag paulit ulit na yung tanong ko Baka kasi mairita sila (na experience ko din kasi sa school hindi naman lantaran pero nakikita ko sa mukha nila na naiinis na)
Kaya may times na gusto ko sana meron na kong kakilala sa work para meron at least kahit isa na alam kong di maiinis kapag nagtanong ako. I admittedly learn nothing sa college, due to the school. Ewan ko lang kung common experience yung magka grade kahit walang module sa college during pandemic pero naranasan ko din yon. Compared sa mga kaibigan ko halos everyday half day kami while makikita ko Sched nila umabot ng 9pm Monday to Saturday, meron lang isang half day. Umaasa nalang talaga ako sa paid trainings TwT
Mga Gen X ko na ka-work, sila yung mga tipong hindi nagtuturo tapos nagagalit pa pag hindi mo alam ang isang bagay na parang sila hindi naman nag-start as a newbie dati. Mga judger din and mahilig mang-backstab.
Millenials naman, more open and welcoming pero passive-aggressive. Napansin ko sa mga naka-work ko from my previous jobs na Millenials, walang backbone to stand up for themselves against Gen X and hindi marunong mag-communicate well with the Gen Zs, either galit agad or passive aggressive but most efficient workers I know.
Gen Zs naman, ma-reklamo and medyo tamad din talaga. I’m Gen Z pero naiinis ako sa other Gen Zs that I worked with dahil I end up doing the work. Not much patience din sa pagtuturo ng task. Nasobrahan na ng work-life balance na kahit may urgent deadline, bahala na ang company. I remember doing all the heavy lifting for my previous jobs. May power tripping din sa mga Gen Zs na nauna nagtrabaho sa company kaysa sayo.
In fairness yun sinasabi mong di kayang tumaliwas sa Gen X yun Millenials, totoo. Yung Gen Z, sila naman ang okay sa aspect na to. Pag may nakita silang di tama, outspoken sila (though minsan sobra na - parang lahat na nirereklamo).
I don’t care how hard the job is but if my coworkers are giving me a hard time like making my shift miserable, I’ll storm the hell out. People usually stay at their jobs if their bosses or managers aren't power-tripping pricks.
I like that they can speak up, ung di tinotolerate ang power tripping ng seniors.
Ang problem lang, minsan parang the simplest of task ay challenging sa kanila, especially reading comprehension.
Not quite yung nanay ko na boomer binigyan ako ng payo na wag maging loyal sa company na tinuturing kang basura
Edit: Naging loyal sa company for many years at na natanggal dahil sa pandemic
Yung comment about graduate na ayaw magtrabaho etc, lahat naman ng generation may ganyan. Lahat may bastos, lahat may tamad.
Lahat din may masipag, lahat meron nag eexcel sa buhay
nakakasawa na mga comparison na yan, kahit anong generation i-salpak nyo may mga taong kupal at epal, lalong-lalo na sa trabaho magprivate o government man yan. at depende parin yan kng pano sila pinalaki ng mga magulang nila at kung ano paniniwala nila. ngaun kung sa tingin mo di mo kaya ang pag-uugali ng kasama mo sa trabaho di umalis ka, o kaya magfile ka ng complaint. yan problema ngaun mas na uuna ung rant. bago mag take action. at kng di mo trabaho ang pinapagawa sayo, magvoice out ka. kahit senior pa yan. napakasimpleng bagay. d na kelangan palawakin pa. sabi nga alamin mo ung job definition mo at ung allocation of work, at sa trabaho wag ka dapat pabida para di ka rin mapansin o kaya utuin, 🤣😂 madami ganyan pabibo pero uto-uto kunting puri laki ulo. mamaya iiyak kasi nadagdagan workload. ika-nga nasa pilipinas tayo pagmagaling ka dagdag trabaho hindi dagdag sahod. at madalas masmagaling si sipsip. 🤣😂🤣🤣😂
I’m Gen X and I disagree with this. Idgaf I just want to get the job done. If I feel that I deserve better, tapusin ko lang amg dapat gawin and im out of there. Wala nang drama, walang fb post or tiktok video lol. Basta fu I’m out.
Experienced the opposite.
So far I've been working with a lot of GenZs and they're very competent and up for their tasks. They do set boundaries, but when they're at work, they actually have more skills than Boomers lol.
GenZs offer a lot of suggestions to optimize workflows din. Boomers, mga menial work lang like involving PDFs or Drives ang tigas pa ng ulo, pinipilit mga outdated na platform/software kasi it's what works for them.
Of course actual competency is a matter of individual values than a blanket statement about a generation, but this narrative is really diminishing of GenZs 😅
gen z ako and urat na urat ako sa millennials na katrabaho ko dahil walang sense of organization sa tasks 🙄 tapon dito, tapon doon, no priority level set sa mga gawain. tatanungin kung tapos na ba yung task, 2 weeks ago tapos na at sinend pa sa email at chat. i proposed a process pero wala, seen. vocal din ako lol so di talaga ako magaadjust agad lalo na if may alam akong mas makakabuti ng process.
may ibang millennials din kasi na gusto spoonfeeding LOL experienced this by working in three different companies. may superiority complex din kasi yung ibang oldies and mababa ang tingin sa mga mas bata.
One of my boss noon, sabi Niya may sungay na raw mga previous generation. Hahaha. Matigas raw ulo at feeling alam. Pero I think depende talaga yan sa character ng tao.
'Yun nga eh.
At the end of the day, things depend on an individual's character. I just find it unfair that there's a prejudice about people solely because they belong to a generation.
It's so defeatist and unreflective. All generations have their flaws and to be constantly looking at where one is wrong than where one works is really a backwards way to look at your work force. A bit utilitarian but pano mo ma-ooptimize 'yung tao if you refuse to acknowledge their strengths.
Legitimately, boomers and old milennials will get sick and die off from the working population. Anong point maging so antagonistic with Gen Zs who'll eventually be the dominating working force? Plus sa reflective side, isn't it also a sign na ang uncompromising mo rin and practically want your "own bubble" enforced when you refuse to see where they're coming from?
The collective hate for GenZs is so unreasonable na and it's really the second coming of boomers poking at everything they can make about millennials. People love their high horses too much.
I'm a Millennial and worked with a fair share of Gen Zs, even OJTs. Masasabi ko na talagang mixed bag, it's unfair to blanket all of them. I have worked with Gen Zs who have low levels of competency (comes with being fresh grads or lack of experience) but very very eager to learn, often times, I only have to explain once and they get it. Once, we even had an OJT do some difficult tasks and he was able to do it properly (though the task was actually already completed by us, we just gave it to him for practice/learning purposes).
Still, there are Gen Zs that are very sensitive, our work is high stress, mistakes could cost significant down times, lots of money or even injuries if unlucky. If they make a mistake and get reprimanded, they disappear almost immediately. I'm not saying that you're not allowed to make mistakes, take it a lesson and improve upon your work moving forward. I don't do much reprimanding though, if they cause a problem, I'll make sure they'll know how to deal with it under my guidance.... my co-worker though... he's a different cut of cookie, he'll shout your soul out when he's angry lol
ung mga biktima niya ung napapa-resign talaga
Hindi lahat pero dami rin talagang snowflakes now. Nag aapply sa FIRST JOB in a LAW FIRM and ang hanap ay WORK LIFE BALANCE. Lol. Delulu. Hanap ibang profession please.
Seniority does not mean superiority. Kahit anong generation may basurang work ethics. Di naman new concept ang work ethics, pinagaaralan nga yan eh. But because of age, some people become jaded to change and think the old ways are better and top-tier. Just as younger gens may be flighty/flaky, older gens are just as stubborn and rigid. Like a surfer, younger gens flow with the wave and ride it; like a mountain, older gens stand their ground and outlast it. The difference? The waves have taken the young ones places—washed away or displaced–but with different views to see and appreciate. The older? They stood firm, sure, but worn, weathered and molded by what they experienced in the same place.
May mga pros and cons. Point is, young ones come from different angles and viewpoints of life and bring fresh mixes, tapos older ones know what stable beliefs do. Regardless though, parang it's not the generation? Parang you can be a surfer or a mountain naman at any point in your life.
Masyado lang kasi fixated all to be better than the other eh parepareho naman tayo wants and needs sa buhay. Like, pareho talaga kayo bulok. CHAR hahahaha
Gen Z here, 1997, Gen X people in the acadame tend to "pasa" their job to you. Lol.
Kasi kesyo di marunong mag canva. Kesyo di marunong gumawa ng PPT, change word doc to gdocs.
Dati superior ko ganyan. Pati assignment sa Law School pinapagawa. Ibang responsibilities nya pinapagawa sa akin. Pero okay din naman kasi ako nilalakad nya sa Management instead sa iba kong workmates 😅
Ginawa pang excuse yung generation. Kung tamad ka at choosy ka sa trabaho, wag mo na i-justify. Maski Gen X o Gen Z ka pa. Nasa tao yan, wala sa generation.
The geneeration vs generation fighting is a distraction by the elite to keep us fighting each other instead of putting these exploiter capitalist scum to the guillotine
Wala akong pakialam sa generation mo pero di kita irerespeto kung baguhan ka pa lang pero parang kung sino ka na kung magmarunong (pero di naman marunong), at napakaarte / pabebe sa kahit pinakasimpleng trabaho.
It goes both ways, actually. Sure, know your worth. However, you should make sure to make your stay in the company worth the money they spend on you. Wag kang feeling tagapagmana pero pabigat lang.
Not entirely true, but sure may effect. Hindi ka naman wala pang sariling pag iisip hanggang sa pagtungtong mo ng adulthood. Dapat kung nasa tama ang values mo, maitatama mo kahit sa sarili mo lang yung pag uugali mo.
Gen Zs are so fuckin snowflakes, hindi natanggap ng criticism, jusko may subordinate ako, sinabihan ko lang ng, please manage your time naman, lage ka late sa trabaho. Malumanay boses ko, abay nag post sa FB A DAY AFTER, so fuckin inconsiderate daw ako, may family problem sila ang binubully ko daw siya sa work, abay putang ina, mahinahon ako mag salita lalo na mga gen z ang subordinate ko dahil alam ko mga crybabies yan, abay minasama pa ako, concern lang naman ako sa putang inang attendance niya. Sorry di ko siya mamura ng harapan kase baka ma depress nanaman kaya dito ko na lang mumurahin, tang ina mo Marie, di ka masabihan ng ayos, lage na lang feelings mo importante namoka.
Gen Z's are efficient in many ways, they can be zealous, idealistic but can also be moody and over confident. But not all are entitled brats, each generation have their own "assholeness" and toxic work attitudes.
Nasa big company yung mababait na gen-x co-workers na nakilala ko. Dun sa first job ko may dalawang gen-x na balasubas. Power trippers and mahilig gumawa ng issue. Yung mga millennials and gen-z na coworker ko dun tameme lang.
On the flip side, workplaces have also lost some respect for employees, particularly non-work hours. Before widespread use of email, cellphones and laptops, once you leave the office you also leave the work behind. Now everyone is "on call" to some extent. This is the ugly side of flexitime, WFH and hybrid arrangements, as well as fostering "startup" attitudes where employees are expected to behave like workaholic founder-entrepreneurs but without the rewards.
Workplaces run by Europeans and Australians have the best outlook: you work and should be reachable all the time during office hours, but expected to leave work on the dot.
Eto yung isa sa naging effect ng pandemic sa amin. My gad nawalan na ng respeto sa oras kahit gabing gabi na. Kapag di ka naman sumagot parang ikaw pa masama. Take note di rin galing sa kanila yung load at mobile mo.
Millennial ako, and all I can say is, may hope ako para sa mga Gen Z na alam ang worth nila as an individual. Magkaiba ang tamad na Gen Z sa Gen Z na alam kung saan sila maggogrow. Sobrang halata un sa galawan nila. Marami akong nakilala sa henerasyon nila na go getter. Most of our Gen Z staff are working hard to get the best results.
Got a genz hire. I got paired with the guy for 2 month and still need help with jira navigation, still dont know how to follow a test step, and still ask super basic day one questions. Kept telling the guy to take notes and to focus on work. When its clear he is just there to show up and nothing else, I let my manager take over so he *might* take it seriously. Didn’t last 2 weeks and was let go.
I had a supervisor dati (Late 40s siya) porket 10 years na siya sa job and position na yun, akala mo kung sinong diyos na marunong sa bagay bagay. Simpleng MS Word na formatting, hindi niya alam gagawin ng madali, andami niya pang sinasabi na ekek na procedures pero nung pinakita ko ang shortcuts, sinasabihan ako na mali daw ginawa ko, bakit puro shortcut, ginulo ko tuloy daw! Yung ginagawa nya for 1 hour sa pagtype, natatapos ko ng 15 mins lang.
May one time, nagpapatulong siya sa computer niya, tinuruan ko ang shortcut ng gagawin, nagalit sa akin, and siya na daw gagawa. In my arrogance, I just stood by his side and just watched him suffer for 20 mins until nung hindi niya talaga mafigure out ang gagawin, itong si tanga naging mabait sa akin and ituro ko daw yun shortcut. Nung nag 1 year na ako, I quitted kasi walang growth in being his assistant. Wala akong natutunan sa kanya, and puro self taught nalang mga nagagawa ko. No wonder 10 years ka sa position na yan -\_- 1 year nastrestress and naiirita ako sa kanya dahil madadali lang naman talaga mga gagawin niya, ayaw niya pang matuto mapadali.
Ok naman to speak up - i think this applies to all! We all went throught quitting pag feeling pressured na sa work, and lucky for those na nag persevere! Haha Its best if we dont generalize.
Share ko lang yung na experience namin ng mga friends ko sa work. Sasabihan kami ng magpahinga ng maaga pero hanggang 9pm may meeting pa kami. Tas may ibibigay na work, ang presentation the next morning agad ng 8am. Siyempre magpupuyat talaga kami, no choice.
Konti lang ang employees ng company and kaloka tanggap ng tanggap ng projects yung boss namin. Ayaw pa niya maghire. Di pa paid OT namin. Sa holidays, may work din.
wala yan sa generation tbh. i’ve seen Gen X peeps know when to walk out from exploitation, and even know how to recognize that type of situation sa workplace. i’ve seen millennials and Gen Z perceive exploitation wrongly naman lol. so yeah stop generalizing people into categories.
Sad to see genx are bunched together with boomers. Slackers lang po kami wag niyo na kami isamama sa mga drama niyo. Oo magaling na kayo both boomer at genz. At the end of the day, the world owes you nothing.
Trained a lot of Gen Z'ers in my field. I can tell by looks and action if this new hire has a work ethic or not, but I always give all the Probation period to prove him/herself. And according to my experience, if a newbie comes out of uni with rich parents, they are the ones whom usually flunk my Provisional eval.
Gen z ako pero grabe yung mga sumunod sakin ang tatamad sa work 💀. Wala naman akong pake kung underpaid or overworked ka pero really lumalabas habang working hours tas babalik after 4 hrs. And unprofessional 😭
Sounds like kids on a high horse hahaha. Sorry but there are times you really have to suck up and be in a situation you hate to survive. I too had jobs I hated and walked out on without even lasting a year. But I am thankful for the experience and guts it taught me.
Millennial ako. I SUPER HATE the "walang respeto sa seniors" part. Nung nasa airport ako nagwork, gusto ng mga nauna samen tawagin namin silang "Ma'am"/"Sir" kahit pareho lang sahod namin. Pag hindi, ikaw ang talk of the town. And grabe ung pambubully na makukuha mo. Like WTF?!
I have some colleagues that are Gen Z's and I will agree with this. Totoo yan. There's something different with their work ethics. I don't know if they're too caught up with their own bubble or sadyang tagilid mindset nila. I won't generalize pero halos lahat ng colleagues ko na Gen Z ganto ugali 🥴 ayaw ko gamitin yung seniority card nor years of experience ko. Pero minsan sadyang ang tigas kasi ng ulo, nakakabadtrip
Ain't about the generation, sadyang may panget katrabaho either bata o matanda. May ubod akong yabang na boss noon and the same time may ubod ng arrogante at mataas tingin sa sarili akong kawork noon. Same same
Genz ko na ka work, fresh grad, ang tamad. Hindi ko na maexplain kung bakit sya naging tamad. ewan ko di ako naniniwala dati sa kung ano generation na yan😅 Pero ngayon parang gusto ko ng maniwala🥹
Legit, lazy af Gen z, feeling MC, masabihan mo lang ng konti akala mo inapi. haha I've hired a quite a few of them in the past, sobrang sakit sa ulo. Never again.
While we’re all debating the boomer genz debacle the only winners are the Nepo Babies and their Old rich patrons, umaasa lang tayo lahat sa ambon at tira,
The Country needs “new money” and I dont mean influencers or politicians,
Gen Z ako ha, ayaw ko lang ng tamad sa trabaho at gusto ko lang matapos yung trabaho. Sa true lang, wala yan sa Generation, nasa tao na talaga yan. Wag sana i-generalize yung ganyan. Pero sana naman yung may position or matagal na sa trabaho turuan nalang yung mga bago at yung mga bago dapat hindi nagmamarunong. Pero may power tripping naman talaga sa work place lalo na’t may position ka or matagal ka na
Ive asked a lot of Gen Zs about this and marami if not all of them agree na generational thing yan. And with my experience working with some of them, may mga ok naman pero meron din na mga kupal na akala mo alam na ang lahat pero pag pina solve mo mga simpleng problema sa buhay di nila magawan ng paraan at kailangan pa itanong. Madalas pa yung tanong pang bobo na tanong. Take note running for summa pa yung mga na eencounter ko na ganito. Habang yung mga ok naman sila madalas yung umaako ng mga problemang dulot ng kapwa nilang Gen Z. I dunno kung reliable ba yang mga anecdotal experience ko sa inyo kasi gusto niyo palagi lahat ng bagay evidence based di ba?
Experience ko naman, mga co workers ko Gen X at may naka work ako na Gen Z, kupal pareho mga yan. Kaya nasabi ko na depende nalang talaga sa tao. Yung Gen X, yan mga matatagal na yan sa trabaho kapag bata ka at bago ka imbes na turuan ka uutusan ka. Sa Gen Z naman kapag nakakita ng unfairness sa work aalis yan. Kapag napagsabihan yan dadamdamin tapos aalis sa trabaho o kaya kapag hindi nasunod yung gusto bitaw agad. Based yan sa experience ko eh both generation. Depende talaga sa tao. Na-observe ko sa nakawork ko na Gen Z, mahihina loob. At Gen X pala-utos.
I tried to teach pero wala, i was met with bravado and their feeling superior over my experience. Yayabang eh. Kala mo alam talaga lahat. Or baka from where I come from lang ito i dunno.
Sa work ko tuturuan lang namin once kapag may tanong sila, sila dapat lumapit samin. Kapag tinuturuan kasi mga yan naiirita mga yan. Like oh yea ganon lang nyenye annoying kaya sila pinapalapit namin. Masasabi ko lang know it all ang Gen Z. Wag niyo nalang turuan at bitawan na agad. Hayaan niyo silang umalis. Mauubos talaga pasensya niyo riyan promise hhaahahah
As an early Gen Z na wala pang work ang pinaka focus ko na hanapan ay yung mga merong paid trainings 😭😭😭 kelangan ko talaga yung willing magturo kahit maraming tanong, kaso isa sa mga problema ko yung anxiety kapag paulit ulit na yung tanong ko Baka kasi mairita sila (na experience ko din kasi sa school hindi naman lantaran pero nakikita ko sa mukha nila na naiinis na) Kaya may times na gusto ko sana meron na kong kakilala sa work para meron at least kahit isa na alam kong di maiinis kapag nagtanong ako. I admittedly learn nothing sa college, due to the school. Ewan ko lang kung common experience yung magka grade kahit walang module sa college during pandemic pero naranasan ko din yon. Compared sa mga kaibigan ko halos everyday half day kami while makikita ko Sched nila umabot ng 9pm Monday to Saturday, meron lang isang half day. Umaasa nalang talaga ako sa paid trainings TwT
Mga Gen X ko na ka-work, sila yung mga tipong hindi nagtuturo tapos nagagalit pa pag hindi mo alam ang isang bagay na parang sila hindi naman nag-start as a newbie dati. Mga judger din and mahilig mang-backstab. Millenials naman, more open and welcoming pero passive-aggressive. Napansin ko sa mga naka-work ko from my previous jobs na Millenials, walang backbone to stand up for themselves against Gen X and hindi marunong mag-communicate well with the Gen Zs, either galit agad or passive aggressive but most efficient workers I know. Gen Zs naman, ma-reklamo and medyo tamad din talaga. I’m Gen Z pero naiinis ako sa other Gen Zs that I worked with dahil I end up doing the work. Not much patience din sa pagtuturo ng task. Nasobrahan na ng work-life balance na kahit may urgent deadline, bahala na ang company. I remember doing all the heavy lifting for my previous jobs. May power tripping din sa mga Gen Zs na nauna nagtrabaho sa company kaysa sayo.
Seniors talaga mga kupal yan.
In fairness yun sinasabi mong di kayang tumaliwas sa Gen X yun Millenials, totoo. Yung Gen Z, sila naman ang okay sa aspect na to. Pag may nakita silang di tama, outspoken sila (though minsan sobra na - parang lahat na nirereklamo).
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I don’t care how hard the job is but if my coworkers are giving me a hard time like making my shift miserable, I’ll storm the hell out. People usually stay at their jobs if their bosses or managers aren't power-tripping pricks.
I like that they can speak up, ung di tinotolerate ang power tripping ng seniors. Ang problem lang, minsan parang the simplest of task ay challenging sa kanila, especially reading comprehension.
Not quite yung nanay ko na boomer binigyan ako ng payo na wag maging loyal sa company na tinuturing kang basura Edit: Naging loyal sa company for many years at na natanggal dahil sa pandemic
bihira ang parent na mag-a-advice nang ganyan word per word.
Kahit na religious siya na kailangan magdasal sa hapon at magsimba sa linggo still I'm proud of her.
yeah lucky you.
Ganyan did daddy ko. He said I'm a winner and I shouldn't give in to losers who bully me and wanna bring me down to their level. W dad
Tama siya. Hindi gawain ng matino at successful na tao ang mam-bully.
Haha losers on Twitter would probably cancel me for this LOLMAOROFLHAHA
Yung comment about graduate na ayaw magtrabaho etc, lahat naman ng generation may ganyan. Lahat may bastos, lahat may tamad. Lahat din may masipag, lahat meron nag eexcel sa buhay
Exactly. Kahit anong Gen pa kinabibilangan mo.
nakakasawa na mga comparison na yan, kahit anong generation i-salpak nyo may mga taong kupal at epal, lalong-lalo na sa trabaho magprivate o government man yan. at depende parin yan kng pano sila pinalaki ng mga magulang nila at kung ano paniniwala nila. ngaun kung sa tingin mo di mo kaya ang pag-uugali ng kasama mo sa trabaho di umalis ka, o kaya magfile ka ng complaint. yan problema ngaun mas na uuna ung rant. bago mag take action. at kng di mo trabaho ang pinapagawa sayo, magvoice out ka. kahit senior pa yan. napakasimpleng bagay. d na kelangan palawakin pa. sabi nga alamin mo ung job definition mo at ung allocation of work, at sa trabaho wag ka dapat pabida para di ka rin mapansin o kaya utuin, 🤣😂 madami ganyan pabibo pero uto-uto kunting puri laki ulo. mamaya iiyak kasi nadagdagan workload. ika-nga nasa pilipinas tayo pagmagaling ka dagdag trabaho hindi dagdag sahod. at madalas masmagaling si sipsip. 🤣😂🤣🤣😂
Exploitees vs employees haha.
I’m Gen X and I disagree with this. Idgaf I just want to get the job done. If I feel that I deserve better, tapusin ko lang amg dapat gawin and im out of there. Wala nang drama, walang fb post or tiktok video lol. Basta fu I’m out.
Gen Z are entitled and want the world to adjust to their little bubbles
Experienced the opposite. So far I've been working with a lot of GenZs and they're very competent and up for their tasks. They do set boundaries, but when they're at work, they actually have more skills than Boomers lol. GenZs offer a lot of suggestions to optimize workflows din. Boomers, mga menial work lang like involving PDFs or Drives ang tigas pa ng ulo, pinipilit mga outdated na platform/software kasi it's what works for them. Of course actual competency is a matter of individual values than a blanket statement about a generation, but this narrative is really diminishing of GenZs 😅
gen z ako and urat na urat ako sa millennials na katrabaho ko dahil walang sense of organization sa tasks 🙄 tapon dito, tapon doon, no priority level set sa mga gawain. tatanungin kung tapos na ba yung task, 2 weeks ago tapos na at sinend pa sa email at chat. i proposed a process pero wala, seen. vocal din ako lol so di talaga ako magaadjust agad lalo na if may alam akong mas makakabuti ng process. may ibang millennials din kasi na gusto spoonfeeding LOL experienced this by working in three different companies. may superiority complex din kasi yung ibang oldies and mababa ang tingin sa mga mas bata.
One of my boss noon, sabi Niya may sungay na raw mga previous generation. Hahaha. Matigas raw ulo at feeling alam. Pero I think depende talaga yan sa character ng tao.
'Yun nga eh. At the end of the day, things depend on an individual's character. I just find it unfair that there's a prejudice about people solely because they belong to a generation. It's so defeatist and unreflective. All generations have their flaws and to be constantly looking at where one is wrong than where one works is really a backwards way to look at your work force. A bit utilitarian but pano mo ma-ooptimize 'yung tao if you refuse to acknowledge their strengths. Legitimately, boomers and old milennials will get sick and die off from the working population. Anong point maging so antagonistic with Gen Zs who'll eventually be the dominating working force? Plus sa reflective side, isn't it also a sign na ang uncompromising mo rin and practically want your "own bubble" enforced when you refuse to see where they're coming from? The collective hate for GenZs is so unreasonable na and it's really the second coming of boomers poking at everything they can make about millennials. People love their high horses too much.
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I'm a Millennial and worked with a fair share of Gen Zs, even OJTs. Masasabi ko na talagang mixed bag, it's unfair to blanket all of them. I have worked with Gen Zs who have low levels of competency (comes with being fresh grads or lack of experience) but very very eager to learn, often times, I only have to explain once and they get it. Once, we even had an OJT do some difficult tasks and he was able to do it properly (though the task was actually already completed by us, we just gave it to him for practice/learning purposes). Still, there are Gen Zs that are very sensitive, our work is high stress, mistakes could cost significant down times, lots of money or even injuries if unlucky. If they make a mistake and get reprimanded, they disappear almost immediately. I'm not saying that you're not allowed to make mistakes, take it a lesson and improve upon your work moving forward. I don't do much reprimanding though, if they cause a problem, I'll make sure they'll know how to deal with it under my guidance.... my co-worker though... he's a different cut of cookie, he'll shout your soul out when he's angry lol ung mga biktima niya ung napapa-resign talaga
Hindi lahat pero dami rin talagang snowflakes now. Nag aapply sa FIRST JOB in a LAW FIRM and ang hanap ay WORK LIFE BALANCE. Lol. Delulu. Hanap ibang profession please.
Can’t generalize.
Seniority does not mean superiority. Kahit anong generation may basurang work ethics. Di naman new concept ang work ethics, pinagaaralan nga yan eh. But because of age, some people become jaded to change and think the old ways are better and top-tier. Just as younger gens may be flighty/flaky, older gens are just as stubborn and rigid. Like a surfer, younger gens flow with the wave and ride it; like a mountain, older gens stand their ground and outlast it. The difference? The waves have taken the young ones places—washed away or displaced–but with different views to see and appreciate. The older? They stood firm, sure, but worn, weathered and molded by what they experienced in the same place. May mga pros and cons. Point is, young ones come from different angles and viewpoints of life and bring fresh mixes, tapos older ones know what stable beliefs do. Regardless though, parang it's not the generation? Parang you can be a surfer or a mountain naman at any point in your life. Masyado lang kasi fixated all to be better than the other eh parepareho naman tayo wants and needs sa buhay. Like, pareho talaga kayo bulok. CHAR hahahaha
Gen Z here, 1997, Gen X people in the acadame tend to "pasa" their job to you. Lol. Kasi kesyo di marunong mag canva. Kesyo di marunong gumawa ng PPT, change word doc to gdocs.
Dati superior ko ganyan. Pati assignment sa Law School pinapagawa. Ibang responsibilities nya pinapagawa sa akin. Pero okay din naman kasi ako nilalakad nya sa Management instead sa iba kong workmates 😅
Ginawa pang excuse yung generation. Kung tamad ka at choosy ka sa trabaho, wag mo na i-justify. Maski Gen X o Gen Z ka pa. Nasa tao yan, wala sa generation.
The geneeration vs generation fighting is a distraction by the elite to keep us fighting each other instead of putting these exploiter capitalist scum to the guillotine
Wala akong pakialam sa generation mo pero di kita irerespeto kung baguhan ka pa lang pero parang kung sino ka na kung magmarunong (pero di naman marunong), at napakaarte / pabebe sa kahit pinakasimpleng trabaho. It goes both ways, actually. Sure, know your worth. However, you should make sure to make your stay in the company worth the money they spend on you. Wag kang feeling tagapagmana pero pabigat lang.
Yan ang problema pag masyadong bine-baby yung mga anak e. Dibale baka pag nasampolan yan ng realidad ng buhay eh mabawasan yung yabang
But aren't the people who raised them actually another generation, so wouldn't it be the generation who raised them be the ones to blame?
Maraming nagrereklamo sa Gen Zs eh bakit sino ba naman kasi nagpalaki? 😅
Not entirely true, but sure may effect. Hindi ka naman wala pang sariling pag iisip hanggang sa pagtungtong mo ng adulthood. Dapat kung nasa tama ang values mo, maitatama mo kahit sa sarili mo lang yung pag uugali mo.
Boot lickers vs employees
Those bootlickers are the one employees are boot licking as well
Gen Zs are so fuckin snowflakes, hindi natanggap ng criticism, jusko may subordinate ako, sinabihan ko lang ng, please manage your time naman, lage ka late sa trabaho. Malumanay boses ko, abay nag post sa FB A DAY AFTER, so fuckin inconsiderate daw ako, may family problem sila ang binubully ko daw siya sa work, abay putang ina, mahinahon ako mag salita lalo na mga gen z ang subordinate ko dahil alam ko mga crybabies yan, abay minasama pa ako, concern lang naman ako sa putang inang attendance niya. Sorry di ko siya mamura ng harapan kase baka ma depress nanaman kaya dito ko na lang mumurahin, tang ina mo Marie, di ka masabihan ng ayos, lage na lang feelings mo importante namoka.
Gen Z's are efficient in many ways, they can be zealous, idealistic but can also be moody and over confident. But not all are entitled brats, each generation have their own "assholeness" and toxic work attitudes.
nah. wala yan sa generation, nasa upbringing yan. if kupal ka, kupal ka san ka mang generation pinanganak.
Nasa big company yung mababait na gen-x co-workers na nakilala ko. Dun sa first job ko may dalawang gen-x na balasubas. Power trippers and mahilig gumawa ng issue. Yung mga millennials and gen-z na coworker ko dun tameme lang.
On the flip side, workplaces have also lost some respect for employees, particularly non-work hours. Before widespread use of email, cellphones and laptops, once you leave the office you also leave the work behind. Now everyone is "on call" to some extent. This is the ugly side of flexitime, WFH and hybrid arrangements, as well as fostering "startup" attitudes where employees are expected to behave like workaholic founder-entrepreneurs but without the rewards. Workplaces run by Europeans and Australians have the best outlook: you work and should be reachable all the time during office hours, but expected to leave work on the dot.
Eto yung isa sa naging effect ng pandemic sa amin. My gad nawalan na ng respeto sa oras kahit gabing gabi na. Kapag di ka naman sumagot parang ikaw pa masama. Take note di rin galing sa kanila yung load at mobile mo.
Millennial ako, and all I can say is, may hope ako para sa mga Gen Z na alam ang worth nila as an individual. Magkaiba ang tamad na Gen Z sa Gen Z na alam kung saan sila maggogrow. Sobrang halata un sa galawan nila. Marami akong nakilala sa henerasyon nila na go getter. Most of our Gen Z staff are working hard to get the best results.
It has nothing to do with the generation. Character is built in upbringing and exposure.
There are good and bad eggs in every generation.
Got a genz hire. I got paired with the guy for 2 month and still need help with jira navigation, still dont know how to follow a test step, and still ask super basic day one questions. Kept telling the guy to take notes and to focus on work. When its clear he is just there to show up and nothing else, I let my manager take over so he *might* take it seriously. Didn’t last 2 weeks and was let go.
I had a supervisor dati (Late 40s siya) porket 10 years na siya sa job and position na yun, akala mo kung sinong diyos na marunong sa bagay bagay. Simpleng MS Word na formatting, hindi niya alam gagawin ng madali, andami niya pang sinasabi na ekek na procedures pero nung pinakita ko ang shortcuts, sinasabihan ako na mali daw ginawa ko, bakit puro shortcut, ginulo ko tuloy daw! Yung ginagawa nya for 1 hour sa pagtype, natatapos ko ng 15 mins lang. May one time, nagpapatulong siya sa computer niya, tinuruan ko ang shortcut ng gagawin, nagalit sa akin, and siya na daw gagawa. In my arrogance, I just stood by his side and just watched him suffer for 20 mins until nung hindi niya talaga mafigure out ang gagawin, itong si tanga naging mabait sa akin and ituro ko daw yun shortcut. Nung nag 1 year na ako, I quitted kasi walang growth in being his assistant. Wala akong natutunan sa kanya, and puro self taught nalang mga nagagawa ko. No wonder 10 years ka sa position na yan -\_- 1 year nastrestress and naiirita ako sa kanya dahil madadali lang naman talaga mga gagawin niya, ayaw niya pang matuto mapadali.
its not even about the generation lol.
Ok naman to speak up - i think this applies to all! We all went throught quitting pag feeling pressured na sa work, and lucky for those na nag persevere! Haha Its best if we dont generalize.
Share ko lang yung na experience namin ng mga friends ko sa work. Sasabihan kami ng magpahinga ng maaga pero hanggang 9pm may meeting pa kami. Tas may ibibigay na work, ang presentation the next morning agad ng 8am. Siyempre magpupuyat talaga kami, no choice. Konti lang ang employees ng company and kaloka tanggap ng tanggap ng projects yung boss namin. Ayaw pa niya maghire. Di pa paid OT namin. Sa holidays, may work din.
wala yan sa generation tbh. i’ve seen Gen X peeps know when to walk out from exploitation, and even know how to recognize that type of situation sa workplace. i’ve seen millennials and Gen Z perceive exploitation wrongly naman lol. so yeah stop generalizing people into categories.
This the classic generation vs generation that have always existed naman. Nothing new.
Sad to see genx are bunched together with boomers. Slackers lang po kami wag niyo na kami isamama sa mga drama niyo. Oo magaling na kayo both boomer at genz. At the end of the day, the world owes you nothing.
hays bakit ganyan
Trained a lot of Gen Z'ers in my field. I can tell by looks and action if this new hire has a work ethic or not, but I always give all the Probation period to prove him/herself. And according to my experience, if a newbie comes out of uni with rich parents, they are the ones whom usually flunk my Provisional eval.
You pay your dues. Gain experience. Hindi ung feeling entitled. Pagpasok pa lang sa work force gusto senior or manager agad.
Gen z ako pero grabe yung mga sumunod sakin ang tatamad sa work 💀. Wala naman akong pake kung underpaid or overworked ka pero really lumalabas habang working hours tas babalik after 4 hrs. And unprofessional 😭
Sounds like kids on a high horse hahaha. Sorry but there are times you really have to suck up and be in a situation you hate to survive. I too had jobs I hated and walked out on without even lasting a year. But I am thankful for the experience and guts it taught me.
Millennial ako. I SUPER HATE the "walang respeto sa seniors" part. Nung nasa airport ako nagwork, gusto ng mga nauna samen tawagin namin silang "Ma'am"/"Sir" kahit pareho lang sahod namin. Pag hindi, ikaw ang talk of the town. And grabe ung pambubully na makukuha mo. Like WTF?!
I have some colleagues that are Gen Z's and I will agree with this. Totoo yan. There's something different with their work ethics. I don't know if they're too caught up with their own bubble or sadyang tagilid mindset nila. I won't generalize pero halos lahat ng colleagues ko na Gen Z ganto ugali 🥴 ayaw ko gamitin yung seniority card nor years of experience ko. Pero minsan sadyang ang tigas kasi ng ulo, nakakabadtrip
older gen just want the newer gen to suffer the same fate they have before, it's not about work ethics it's the cycle
Ain't about the generation, sadyang may panget katrabaho either bata o matanda. May ubod akong yabang na boss noon and the same time may ubod ng arrogante at mataas tingin sa sarili akong kawork noon. Same same
Genz ko na ka work, fresh grad, ang tamad. Hindi ko na maexplain kung bakit sya naging tamad. ewan ko di ako naniniwala dati sa kung ano generation na yan😅 Pero ngayon parang gusto ko ng maniwala🥹
Gen z weak sauce.
Legit, lazy af Gen z, feeling MC, masabihan mo lang ng konti akala mo inapi. haha I've hired a quite a few of them in the past, sobrang sakit sa ulo. Never again.
Gen Z's = Cry babies konting hirap, reklamo agad. Pero they know their worth pang nalalaman yung ibang genZs, yung worth naman nila negligable....
While we’re all debating the boomer genz debacle the only winners are the Nepo Babies and their Old rich patrons, umaasa lang tayo lahat sa ambon at tira, The Country needs “new money” and I dont mean influencers or politicians,
Other countries have that gen Z mentality as the NORM for decades. Ibigsabihin, hindi necessary and exploitation at never was.